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Need to cure poison?

Am on standing stone 7 if anyone needs to cure poison. Or indeed if you're poisoned and want curing. I'll loiter here until midnight on Wednesday. --smudgepuss 23:29, 11 November 2008 (GMT)

Flying Party

I (or, rather, my multi, Armourer Guildorn) was walking towards the Southern Market when I noticed a curious shadow over the entrance to the Hammered Anvil Society. Walking under it, I noticed a button labelled "into Party (1 AP)" or similar and, upon pressing it, I ended up in a Flying Party above the square! There doesn't seem to be any information on this on the wiki already, so I'm wondering how long this has been going on. Currently, the only other people on board are Wizard density, Shaman Incen, Baron Kunderthunt, & Duke Neptune MD. The control panel contains buttons for moving the party one square in each direction for 10 AP and, although there doesn't seem to be any effect on my AP regen rate, I'm going to stay on for a while to see what happens. --Naimoigiant 16:08, 3 November 2008 (GMT)

Don't let it hit you in the small of the back, but keep an eye out for components of the Wikkit Gate. Hbookbinder 19:05, 3 November 2008 (GMT)
I must shore up my avocado farm defenses! --Ade 22:15, 3 November 2008 (GMT)
I think that the flying party first appeared during the Cities Festival, although I could be wrong. -- Rhapsodie 05:56, 10 November 2008 (GMT)

Hamster Mating

Anyone interested in getting their female hamsters to mate with either mine or Gonzometro's, please PAYG us, or in my case leave a message on my wiki page. --Corellis 10:30, 02 November 2008 (EST)

League Tables

I'm not sure if its just me but has anyone else had difficulty accessing the league tables of late --Bel3338 10:30, 10 October 2008 (BST)

Seems fairly universal of late. S. Mackie 17:52, 10 October 2008 (BST)
This has been noted on the bugs page. --Dragon 18:19, 10 October 2008 (BST)

IRC channel

I can't seem to log into #cities anymore. Thoughts? S. Mackie 22:40, 5 October 2008 (BST)

I think the server must have fallen down and gone boom again. Either that, or someone decided to close off the channel to Americans :-) - Thog 01:08, 6 October 2008 (BST)
UKians can't log in either. - Isambard 01:53, 6 October 2008 (BST)
It's back now. -- Sertularian 12:09, 6 October 2008 (BST)

I keep getting Connection Refused in ChatZilla. You filter us yanks again? --Tiltowait 13:33, 7 November 2008 (GMT)

I'm a yanker and am happily enjoying the channel. I've no explanation for this. :| S. Mackie 21:36, 7 November 2008 (GMT)

MarketWatch4 Bot

Marketwatch4 bot is lost in the Air City Shrine of Air. If anyone wants to help them back to their assigned position it would be much appreciated. -- Anoki 03:59, 30 September 2008 (BST)

The GLs will/should take care of it. A killer queen most probably spawned next to the little bugger and killed him.
How would a killer queen kill something that doesn't attack? Is it considering the bot's hourly chatter as an "attack"?
To Killer Queens, yes. If you speak next to them, it acts like an attack, and you "hit" if you get the line right. If you don't, there's a counterattack. --Dragon 03:05, 7 October 2008 (BST)
That's one hell of a coincidence. --Ade 03:53, 7 October 2008 (BST)
It's actually the second time it's happened. -- Sertularian 04:39, 7 October 2008 (BST)
Now that's a coincidence! Dendrast 02:44, 8 October 2008 (BST)

Experimental changes to the interface.

There's a link in the MOTD box to a new interface. I like the new inventory box thing, but it seems to be kind of laggy, has to load the list of items every time you click on a category.

What do you you guys make of it?--LimeHan 21:02, 24 September 2008 (BST)

Very nice, but I wish it had an optional command line interface for inventory. Must faster than clicking... for some. For others, the links are clearly better. S. Mackie 05:30, 25 September 2008 (BST)

...Basically I want to move over people who don't mind being moved over. Some people will hate it, so I'll keep the old interface too. I like the command line idea, please give some more info on the New Interface page...

If you've already used a catagory, it loads almost instantly the second time. I like having the stuff in files instead of having to scoll through everything. If you still want to do that (can't find something), select catagory 'all'. Dendrast 02:48, 8 October 2008 (BST)

WTF is a Bacon Fish?

Make a Bacon Fish from 3 Slices of Bacon (Water 15 AP, Earth 9 AP)

I made one and it doesn't appear to do anything. Doesn't even have a box in the sidebar.--LimeHan 20:24, 7 September 2008 (BST)

A fish made of bacon would be the Most Awesome Fish Ever. Unless you added whisky. Then it would be better than the most awesomest. --Scary Mike 13:04, 8 Septembe 2008 (EST)r
From IRC:
<cjg> oops i typoed bacon fish
<cjg> in game
<Rhapsodie> what was it meant to be?
<cjg> other way round
<cjg> you make bacon from fish
<cjg> not fish from bacom
<cjg> baconfish is reference to my current housemates ex housemate
<cjg> who was vegetarian
<cjg> except she ate fish
<cjg> including the rare and mysterious baconfish
--Dragon 18:40, 8 September 2008 (BST)
You can also make 3 slices of bacon out of a baconfish, officially the Most Awesome Fish Ever. --Tiltowait 13:49, 25 September 2008 (BST)


I suddenly noticed that i have a grey bar below my kudos level that says dissapointed. I am in the midst of the tubes quest and due to non cities life i am taking some time with it. does anyone think that has to do with it? (edit: it helps to sign these things)Sheyona 19:10, 6 September 2008 (BST)

This is not a quest mechanic. Perhaps check your history. There should have been a message explaining why..... Elseware
Me too... GrumpyNick has disappointed me, apparently. Somewhat hugely... [1] Stoo 00:13, 7 September 2008 (BST)

Pets auto eat?

I got this message today when I switched equipment.

You lose a Measure of Serenity. You lose a Measure of Serenity. You lose a Measure of Serenity. You lose an Issue. You lose a Measure of Serenity. Now using Tarot Deck.

It happened a few days ago taking my kudos. Do pets now automatically eat when hungry? This never happened to me the last time they were alive. Billwopeh 20:01, 1 September 2008 (BST)

Yes, pets now autofeed when they get down to starving (25%). This is relatively new and there have been a few bugs with it (which also resulted in the Great Pet Resurrection you got a palantir about), although it seems to be working now. Autofeeding takes pet AP and you can't choose what gets eaten, so you're better off feeding them before they get that low. --Dragon 20:45, 1 September 2008 (BST)
does this autofeeding include horsies grazing on pasture, or does it have to be a consumable item from your inventory? Supergumby 23:55, 2 September 2008 (BST)
It would've been nice if the fact that they now auto eat was palantired to us.
Given the total chaos of the Rampage and the Resurrection, it was really kinda hard to miss - Thog 00:49, 7 September 2008 (BST)
Well if someone kept their pets fed normally, they would never notice the rampage, and the resurrection could honestly be mistaken for a real error by someone who didn't know. Kaos Dragon 00:51, 7 September 2008 (BST)

Voting nearly over for Cities Ditties

Voting closes today at 12 for the festival poetry competition, please come along and show your support for the poets (and please help us find clear winners (and firsts and seconds and thirds...)

Brand Identity?

I just killed a Dolphin and got a 'Brand Identity'. WTF?

It's to do with the University of Southampton changing their logo. Andrewsi 12:38, 29 August 2008 (BST)
Of course it is! Why ever didn't I think if that? Er... so... what do I do with it?10X 15:37, 29 August 2008 (BST)
You can sell it to the Communications Office at the University for 5000 Gold. It might be useful for something else, but I've no idea what. Andrewsi 15:42, 29 August 2008 (BST)

Pimps Cruising the Strip

As a result of the fashion parade, taste and fashion sense have dropped markedly. Watch out for Duke Anoki MD and his posse cruising the streets of our four cities in his less than tasteful pimpmobile.


Cities Ditties Poetry Contest

Time to vote for your favourite entries in the Cities Ditties poetry contest! Votes close at noon (game time) on 1st September.

Last Night of the Poms

Coming soon! Last Night of the Poms: A Celebration of British Music in Honour of our 'King; Venue: The Royal Alberta Hall - Under the The Crown, Earth City 96E 5N; Date: 24th August 2008

Any last minute entries palantir me Schnorrer 12:25, 23 August 2008 (BST)

For those that may have missed it, you can see the two entries (and vote for your favourite) here! Rhapsodie 13:52, 24 August 2008 (BST)

Killer Queen

What are these and how do you kill them (100HP)??? ps singing swords dont work... ketchup 23:04, 21 August 2008 (BST)

You haven't been following the Royal Charity Auction, eh? Random4518 23:59, 21 August 2008 (BST)

Art Show Entries

Entries for the Art Show have now closed. Please vote for your favourite entries here - one vote per category! Rhapsodie 09:34, 19 August 2008 (BST)

Traditional: Where's my @#$% beanstalk already?? by Maaaweee
3D: Trials of a Mage by ford_prefect
Digital: Circumnavigation by Cthu1hu

Thanks to everyone that voted - and to all of our entrants. I have a little something for each entrant to thank them for their participation! Rhapsodie 09:36, 25 August 2008 (BST)

Festival Fashion

I am running fashion parades at 11am and 11pm daily for week 2 of the festival. All participants get to create a new fashion item of their choice. Parade venues south of the Festival (18E 3N ) and on the pier at Brighthelm. Parade your best themed fashion. Anoki 00:35, 17 August 2008 (BST)

Cooking Contest

I'm running a new contest for Festival week 2: 'King's Kitchen. Check out the rules, and then go make your best dish. C'mon, it's for GLORIES! -- Thog 22:47, 16 August 2008 (BST)

Okay, we've had six people take place settings to compete. SIX. Surely you want to throw your name into the ring and try too, don't you? -- Thog 17:42, 18 August 2008 (BST)
Okay, a few more entries have been received, but with a few days left in the festival, there's still time to submit. Stop by 12E 9N to either get plates or deliver your entries! -- Thog 16:58, 22 August 2008 (BST)
All submissions are now closed. Head on over to 'King's Kitchen Voting to vote on your favorite dishes -- Thog 04:19, 25 August 2008 (BST)

Pick A Winner!

For those of you who haven't noticed yet, A new illicit gambling operation has opened up just off of the King's road. Odds are 1 in 6, and the proceeds go to a good cause, so buy your winning ticket today! Tickets will be stocked as often as possible. And for those of you who've got winning tickets already, please contact Bernie to claim your winnings. And don't lose that ticket! AmishRobots 08:51, 16 August 2008 (BST)

Congratulations to our Winners: Bortjr, Incen, Stien (who won TWICE!) and uh JennyAnn, I think. There are at least TWO winning tickets still unclaimed out there, don't be shy! come get your loot! Also, if you have a winning ticket, please rename it from "Pick a Winner!" to "(yourname)Winner!" before giving them to me, so i can find them in my inventory, this is crucial. AmishRobots 20:25, 19 August 2008 (BST)
I have a winning ticket. I just haven't bothered to redeem it yet. -- Thog 04:20, 25 August 2008 (BST)
Same here. Where should i meet you? Sheyona 05:32, 25 August 2008 (BST) I should know better than to trust by brain when i am ill.


So, I was heading up to the catacombs from fire city, when I discovered I couldn't go through the Rurals. Because the whole row of 100N is missing. So, I head back to fire city to do further investigations. 100N still missing. Magic map shows the Rurals just beyond a void 1 square wide. Magic map also shows me a void to the west starting at -1 (1w). This one is wider than just one square though. I convince Betty to bust a dojo talisman for SCIENCE!. She does, lands on the dojo just fine. Heads east. hits the other edge of the Nothing, which is now determined to run from -5 to -1. Checks the Magic map, sees that harveys farm is still there. Harveys farm does bridge the Nothing entirely, and can be used as a bridge. I'm sure this is all due to 'fiddling, but maybe the GLs will use this 'accident' to introduce some neverending story quests or something. --BortJr 07:07, 16 August 2008 (BST)

Well, the Western "nothing" has disappeared and been replaced with terrain that so far mostly resembles what was there before. Except there is a liberal sprinkling of lakes, ruins, alchemists, wizards towers, guard towers, wells... I suspect there is something more than this somewhere, I just haven't found it yet. - Cthu1hu 10:31, 16 August 2008 (BST)

New Pet Type

One for the Mages: Familiars now drop from Witches!

Edit: And one for the Armourers: Minrilaxes can now be mined and poop bits of metal!

SCIENCE! The default names of Familiars are based on the familiars of the three witches in MacBeth. S. Mackie 08:49, 19 August 2008 (BST)
Or other witches' familiars--I got one called Pie-whack-it. --Dragon 17:04, 19 August 2008 (BST)

New Guild Items

Guild Factory Kit made from 8 Brass Wheels, 4 Conveyor Belts, 100 Glories, 50000 Gold Pieces, 100 Pieces of Wood, 50 Stones and 20 Brass Cogs. What does it manufacture?, 500AP for a M.Arm, dunno if Arms or Smiths can make it. --naath 13:19, 16 August 2008 (BST)

Guild Stairs Kit made from 10 Glories, 10000 Gold Pieces, 300 Pieces of Wood and 50 Stones.--TheRealKilgore 03:24, 15 August 2008 (BST)

I'm going to wager a guess that the factory produces guild talismans. --Ade 16:27, 16 August 2008 (BST)

New Terrain Type


Several squares in the interior around 33E 33N are currently Smoke. I went west from there, not east - might the smoke be coming from The Vents? parking_god 17:21, 14 August 2008 (BST)

Portal to Brighthelm

The 'King has built a two-way portal from 16E 3N near the main festival activities to the end of the Brighthelm Pier so people can get to and from the Sculpture by the Sea show easily. So now there's no excuse not to use plinths there! :)

Check it out - it's cool! Rhapsodie 13:26, 10 August 2008 (BST)

Royal Race Around the World

I saw some interesting sights while I was running around today. Does anyone know anything about Caroline's Island and/or a/The Thunderchild far out at sea? (I'm aware of the one that seems to be docked at Brighthelm.) I would have loved to investigate, but I invested way too much AP in the race to get side-tracked. :/

I'm also extremely curious as to what route the other racers took. I won't post my route yet out of respect for those who are still running, but I would be interested in comparing notes at some point. -Scrumbucket 13:55, 9 August 2008 (BST)

Here are the rankings as I post this, for those that haven't heard:

  • First: Sgt. Duke Kaos Dragon MD (37 minutes)
  • Second: Sgt. Duke hollyhamster MD (61 minutes)
  • Third: Wizard naath MD (70 minutes)
  • Fourth: Sgt. Duke andrewsi MD (77 minutes)
  • Fifth: Sgt. Duke Scrumbucket MD (83 minutes)
  • Sixth: Shaman LimeHan (108 minutes)
  • Seventh: Sgt. Duke Cthu1hu MD (121 minutes)
  • Eighth: Wizard macksting (199 minutes)

Follow the link for more information! Rhapsodie 15:25, 9 August 2008 (BST)

I went south down the west side of the map (probably didn't go farther east than 15E or so), stayed to the water as much as possible with my airship. Thing wore out just as I hit the Crill Sea and since I didn't have a horsie, I was stuck using my Survey Vessel most of the rest of the way (and the damn thing broke before I got to the Frozen South! I was freaking out but fortunately I could make the nails I needed after checking my inventoyu. I didn't see anything too odd, I happened to pass by XXXXXXXXXX on his speedboat in the Northern Ocean and nicked his wizard's hat (which I promptly took to the pentacle once I got back, he he he) and I dug up a treasure chest I had a map for on the way down the Great North Road. I probably spent way too much AP, but I've got so much I don't really mind.--LimeHan 22:27, 9 August 2008 (BST)
I headed North from Air City on a speeder bike, taking the Western gap in the Rurals. Imps got in my way several times. Past Bognor I rode Bill my trusty Sea Horsie whilst high on magic herb. Across the frozen South (and very tip of the North) I used Invisibility Spells combined with the speeder bike to zoom straight to the shore. And then it was back onto Bill, high on herb, and holding a Clock of Invisibility, still had to firecracker the plankton, speeder-biked over Oz and then back onto Bill and the herb to swim up to the South Coast (I missed all the islands incidentally) before speeder biking across the desert. I went too far East in the Plankton and had to go West to pass the Andes but appeared back in the 'kingdom with only a few steps West needed. My speeder bike wore out just as I finished needing it. --naath 13:11, 10 August 2008 (BST)
I took the Eastern route, starting just south of the Crystal Cave and heading North. After I jogged over to the eastern gap in the Rurals, I hardly budged from the 80-83E corridor for the entire trip. I only moved west when I ran into the Hexed Ocean, which I had completely neglected to take into account when planning my route. I couldn't afford a speeder bike even with the hat I had stolen, so I just Button-Mashered along the roads, threw on winged boots and the One Bling for the wilds, and crossed the ocean on my trusty speedboat with the wind at my back. And of course at the end, I neglected to pay attention to the location of the finish line and spent several minutes trying to figure out what went wrong. Final analysis: I hate Plankton! -Scrumbucket 20:30, 10 August 2008 (BST)

Music Video Competition

Entries are now sought for the Music Video Competition. With fabulous prizes (we hope). Schnorrer 08:53, 9 August 2008 (BST)

Lost or Stolen?

Just before retiring from the stage (that I ultimately couldn't keep away from - cursed fame) I had the humidor won fair and square by the The Vaudeville Guild (see Here) passed to Cor on loan for his collection - in accordance with the wishes of 10X - but it seems to be lost. Anyone seen our humidor? We'd like to see it passed on to the winner of the Music Video Competition - it just made so much sense. Schnorrer 08:53, 9 August 2008 (BST)

The Humidor is currently in my possession (which I safeguarded while you were on hiatus). I'd be happy to give it back, right after 5 Sep (salvation day). --Bubba_the_Shy 12:41, 14 August 2008 (BST)
Cool. I didn't give it to you to look after did I - if so sorry for not remembering - must be senior citiezens disease. Happy salvation day. Schnorrer 14:40, 14 August 2008 (BST)


A few players have noted getting odd messages about a unicorn. Might as well post em here:

Unicorn touches you with its horn.  You feel a little purer.

My kudos didn't appear to change. - Heyus2 07:12, 9 August 2008 (BST)

From the Pentacle:

Unicorn says 'blasts you with a ray of pure happiness!'
Unicorn blasts you with a ray of pure happiness!

The fact the first one was a typo makes me think it's a player in a unicorn suit! :P Rhapsodie 08:29, 9 August 2008 (BST)
PS There is also a "Dark Knight" in a Batman costume cruising around on monofilament wires. -- Rhapsodie 09:25, 9 August 2008 (BST)

Unicorn eyes your Horsie

Not sure if he wanted to fight or "play". My horse is male so no pregnancy resulted Namorson

Unicorn nuzzles Starr Shine.

My preggers female winged horsie. Guess it has a weird fetish! --Ade 13:29, 9 August 2008 (BST)

Unicorn hopes you may have use for this weapon in slaying her mortal enemies. 
Death to the Dark Knight!
You gain a Pure Bow.
Unicorn gives you a Pure Bow.

Herbacious 22:02, 9 August 2008 (BST)

The Unicorn and Dark Knight can't be hit by snowballs. Also:
 You gain a Hamulet.
 Dark Knight gives you a Hamulet.
He didn't say anything when he gave it to me though. It seems to be equipment and counts as bling as far as equipping is concerned.--LimeHan 23:32, 9 August 2008 (BST)
Unicorn would love a massage...but instead decides people in Brighthelm need it more.  
You gain a Brighthelm Rock.
Unicorn gives you a Brighthelm Rock.
I was in costume when this happened.--The Masseuse

I like the unicorn. It gave me a mysterious envelope! :) I took a picture of them just now... Rhapsodie 23:17, 10 August 2008 (BST)

Click to enlarge.

  • Our friendly Unicorn turned up at the planted fields outside Water City:
Unicorn looks at the delicious oats lovingly...

Just looking (at this stage), is all harvestbird 07:08, 12 August 2008 (BST)

And now my little alt is luckier and luckier still ...

Unicorn nibbles at the edge of your field, but you are entranced by the beauty and don't seem to mind.  Later, while plowing, you find something extraordinary.
You gain a Pure Catana.
Unicorn gives you a Pure Catana.

x7 damage, +20% to hit! harvestbird 12:06, 13 August 2008 (BST)

Oh, geez. Looks like a war is going to be brewing...

Dark Knight seeks out the darkest soul in this place and presents them with a gift.
You gain a Dark Bow.
Dark Knight gives you a Dark Bow.

MrBlarney 21:38, 14 August 2008 (BST)

Statuesque Beauties and Magnificent Erections Sculpture Show now open!

Come past the pentacle near the Royal Palace to collect your Plinths - and while you're there, admire all of the other events that are on (probably not in that order - plinths are being handed out when I see the requests, which means that you will probably need to park there for a while before your request is filled)! -- the Muse of Sculpture 02:14, 9 August 2008 (BST)

There's a new section to the competition page - sculptures made so far - for recording the coords of all sculptures. If you've made some already, please add yours in! -- the Muse of Sculpture 02:14, 9 August 2008 (BST) 02:39, 10 August 2008 (BST)
And now we have a page to nominate your favourite sculptures. No limit to how many times you can nominate! -- the Muse of Sculpture 14:21, 10 August 2008 (BST)

Ruthven's experiment

Just after festival commencement, Santa was out early (due to a "whim" of the Great Lords) and those of you with nimble fingers may have been able to steal a present from him:

Present: One of Ruthven's experiments went horribly wrong... and some of it's in
this package. It looks horrible... but smells delicious.
You lose a Present.
You close your eyes and swallow... yum!
Now using Fists.

Mmmm, AP-flavoured! Rhapsodie 00:40, 9 August 2008 (BST)

They merge with and replace previous presents. Are you given an option as with the previous presents? Is it random or is it AP only? --TheRealKilgore 01:05, 9 August 2008 (BST)
Not random. AP only - 250-odd. Not sure if it takes you over your maximum. This present was as a result of an "oops". Rhapsodie 01:27, 9 August 2008 (BST)
Not random and only 250 AP? That is unfortunate for those of who had present(s) from before. The old presents gave over 1000 AP (not to mention the other choices.) It wouldn't be bad if it didn't replace the old presents. Any chance this "oops" will be fixed? --TheRealKilgore 01:31, 9 August 2008 (BST)
Then I'm not touching mine - no way I'm giving up "see monster health" Syagrius 01:49, 9 August 2008 (BST)
If you already opened an old present you're fine. You won't lose what you already have. If you have any unopened presents you will not be able to choose "see monster health" if you planned on doing so. --TheRealKilgore 02:27, 9 August 2008 (BST)
Ah, ok - Misread the "merges and replaces" thing. :) Syagrius 02:58, 9 August 2008 (BST)
Incidentally, the AP granted will take you over max. ぬるぬる 11:13, 10 August 2008 (JST)

The Hunt for Red Fedora

As a prelude to the upcoming festivities, we creative types have come up with the cities' Hat Hunt! And who better to be our wiley mad-hatter than Merchant, Cities' illustrious and most capitalist-inclined player! Merchant has rather craftily hidden somewhere in Cities, possibly in his guild space. Your job, dear hunters, is to find him, snatch his Red Fedora and unseat him in the hat tables!

Several players have gotten together to fund this soiree, and we welcome more donations! The first player to successfully unseat Merchant in the hat tables and post the screenshot wins all the proceeds! For more details and to sign up, go here!

Yellow ducks on ponds

Just encountered this at 55E 211S. There are some cute yellow ducks sitting on the surface of the lake. Not really sure what to do with them. Anyone have an idea? -- Herakkis 20:00, 23 Jul 2008

They're player created items. You made them from rubber or some such. --Ade 01:16, 24 July 2008 (BST)
There's a wiki page now: Rubber Duck. Rhapsodie 07:04, 26 July 2008 (BST)

Candy, candy!

Pinatas started to give candies! Finally! Yummy!

You attack the Pinata in a Tree.
You cause 1 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
You slay the Pinata in a Tree.
You gain 11 Yellow Candies.
You gain 15 Green Candies.
You gain 11 Black Candies.
You gain 12 Pink Candies.
You gain 105 Gold Pieces.
You gain 10 Brown Candies.
You gain 7 White Candies.
You gain a Pair of Scissors.
You gain a Cloak of Invisibility.
You gain 16 Purple Candies.
You gain 6 Red Candies.
You gain 8 Orange Candies.
You gain a Crystal Ball.
You gain 4 Blue Candies.
You gain a Clean Bandage.
It was full of sweets and stuff!

Candies are edible but no effects noticed. Other functions yet unknown. Agzu 15:30, 1 August 2008 (BST)

Warning re: Void Calling

Either deliberately or because of a bug (edit: apparently it was deliberate), Void Calling no longer does what it used to. Instead of creating a Time Warp, it now functions as though you've just used one. That means that it's no longer safe to cast near pentacles or parties - for obvious reasons. A thousand apologies to our current party and penty hosts for the damage that discovering this has caused. :( Rhapsodie 10:28, 21 July 2008 (BST)

S'okay. The party had a longer lease on its existence than I expected to anyway, as a result of Caroline's classy two-day bash. Perhaps somebody took a torch to the Freezing Man sculpture a little early. I won't sue. S. Mackie 17:49, 21 July 2008 (BST)
Darn, Time Warps were a nice little money maker for mages.
And it makes the Wizard quest more awkward (Time Warps 0AP use meant you could stockpile them and then use them without affecting your... uh... "hardness" Rackmount 13:57, 29 July 2008 (BST)
This means we'll be selling Void Calling spells in Eye Pods, I imagine. How much AP does it take to play an Eye Pod? If it doesn't take much, it won't affect the AP cost of Void Calling the way a book would. S. Mackie 18:28, 29 July 2008 (BST)
On the bright side, this makes mages slightly better prepared than average when it comes to growing crops. Others must hunt Rocky Horrors.
Still, irritating, yes. S. Mackie 18:17, 22 July 2008 (BST)

Something odd just happened at the pentacle:

Everything takes a jump to the right and then a step to the left.
Suddenly, it's 6 hours ago.

--LimeHan 18:07, 22 July 2008 (BST)

A Reverse Time Warp. These should probably be added somewhere. Not mine; so far, although there's rumor they exist (rarely) as monster drops, the only ones used have been by Great Lords or the 'king himself. S. Mackie 18:17, 22 July 2008 (BST)
Elseware mentioned on IRC that you can expect exactly one Reverse Time Warp to drop per week (or was it per month?). it's intentionally extremely rare. -- Thog 21:27, 22 July 2008 (BST)
Especially since too many could make a party last a bit longer :) Syagrius 01:46, 23 July 2008 (BST)
Call me curious: parties are the most obvious use, and probably the best, but what other uses are there? S. Mackie 04:27, 23 July 2008 (BST)
Would it affect the space elevator? How about mana or spells (as in, it's midnight again?) - or to be terribly annoying, ungrowing someone else's fields? Extending the life of a pentacle? Syagrius 06:13, 23 July 2008 (BST)
Normal timewarps don't effect the elevator or spell and mana acquisition; so I doubt it. Extending parties and penties is presumably the only sensible use.--naath 10:22, 23 July 2008 (BST)
I agree. Maybe as an expensive way to clear out that fire crackers don't work on. But that's all I can think of. --Ade 13:51, 23 July 2008 (BST)
So when parties become scarce again, they'll have rather few uses. I suppose they're also a quick, terrorist-y way to destroy a few player-made locations, too. S. Mackie 18:18, 23 July 2008 (BST)
Actually, based on what Elseware and Andrew have said on IRC, I think it's safe to say RTWs would EXTEND player-made locations, not destroy them. -- Thog 18:32, 23 July 2008 (BST)
It depends though. What if using the RTW turned time back to before the location existed?--LimeHan 02:15, 24 July 2008 (BST)

GL Andrew's Barbecue

Located at 6E 7N - a square with the normal field graphic except labelled "Great Lord Andrew's Barbecue". You can Join Barbecue for 10AP:

You lose a Four-Pack of Lager.
You join the barbecue. There's nothing quite like the taste of meat that's both under- and over-cooked.
It will also take 1 loaf of bread and 1 salad in addition to the lager if you have those as well.

After that, there's a description of "Plenty of charcoal left." and a button that lets you "Add Charcoal" for 1AP.

as well as a "Add 10 Charcoal" for 5 AP. Currently adding 10 charcoal gives you an error message however
You feed more charcoal to the barbecue.
You lose an Unit of Charcoal.

Mmm, barbecue! Rhapsodie 11:46, 20 July 2008 (BST)

Interesting. If you move off the square and back on again you have to join it again. I tried, and got the following message:
You can't turn up to a barbecue without bringing anything! Come back when you've got
some bread, a salad, or a four-pack of lager.
Looks like nothing is going on at 6E 7N now. I guess the barbecue is over? Fraggle 12:35, 21 July 2008 (BST)
It seemed to disappear at roughly the same time Caroline's party ended. Rhapsodie 22:31, 21 July 2008 (BST)


Warning -Using a Curse creates a Cursed Field on your square, and takes off Kudos. You can only talisman out, and all monsters next to the square vanish with the paths. I made two so far 11e/273s by Emerald City, and one by Crimson city 76e/210s.

You can use a curse for 10ap (Not on a plowed field - says "not here") You get them attacking a Witch she does 150 dmg, or turns you to a Toad (This is when you gain a curse) Toad lasts for 5-10APs

Statue of Delia Derbyshire

There is a new statue east of the road south of water city.

Apparent connections to music, Dr. Who, sonic Boom (electronic music band), and the BBC.


Building Site

Located at 90E 5S DSSGCM, right at the edge of Earth City. The terrain looks the same as the Earth City dump (which it is one square right of). There's also one in Brighthelm at 62E -45S DSSGCM. - Rhapsodie 11:47, 17 July 2008 (BST)

Building Site: This is just a building site!
I saw the one in Earth City last night, but I didn't know Brighthelm had one too. I figured it was a horsie gene sequencing lab, due to several new items popping up. I don't know what to think with two of them, though. --Ade 12:14, 17 July 2008 (BST)
Looking at Glendale, there's one in each of the 'Kingdom cities and in Bognor. Not Bentnob, Northwich or any of the four Oz cities - although maybe Glendale just hasn't been updated for them with the new details yet. Rhapsodie 12:24, 17 July 2008 (BST)
If you check the wiki link on the terrain, it says TubeEntrance. A new mode of transportation in works? --Jpv 14:51, 17 July 2008 (BST)
There is one at the festival too -- ketchup 18:14, 17 July 2008
I saw one at the King's castle too. Actually my wife did, and she hasn't finished time and space yet, so the map didn't get updated--Che-T 18:59, 17 July 2008 (BST)
There's also one in the Forbidden City. -Jon 16:00, 18 July 2008 (BST)

Shortly after guild space was created, elseware and/or DS were tinkering with rapid underground transit. They were known as Guild Travel Nodes but implementation into the game never happened. There was also mention of guild talismans but, as far as I know, those never materialized, either. I miss IRC; reading old logs just doesn't feel the same. Snare 19:31, 17 July 2008 (BST)

Well, if it's a subway, that explains why it's only northern continent cities that have them at the moment! :) Rhapsodie 13:57, 18 July 2008 (BST)

There is one in Bögnør as well. 35E 157N DSSGCM

Rather than continuously adding to this list, add it to the page I just created for it. -- Thog 17:35, 18 July 2008 (BST)

Ooh, the Bognor one is now:

Bog End Station: You can't come in without an Oyster!

Now reads:

You can't come in without an Oyster or valid Ticket!

Rapid underground transit seems to be right. Rhapsodie 22:12, 27 July 2008 (BST)

I have two Oysters, but I haven't yet had a chance to test the system. Anyone want to make me an offer for my spare Oyster to try it out with? Also - Oysters are not that easy to come by and I'm thinking of cornering the market in them.10X 11:31, 28 July 2008 (BST)

Now, now. Don't be greedy. Share for the sake of SCIENCE!, the love your fellow players will shower upon you is worth far more than gold... --Ade 11:35, 28 July 2008 (BST)
Has no one else tried this yet then? I want a go first! Alright - Oysters are found in the very depths of the deep southern ocean. There is a specific way to catch them, which I'll keep to myself for a bit - although it's fairly easy to work out if you look at the new items. Once I've taken a few trips on the tube I'll spill everything. 10X 12:28, 28 July 2008 (BST)
You need a trawler and an inseine net. Rhapsodie 13:21, 28 July 2008 (BST)
Well, yes, quite... but you need to do the special dance at the same time too.10X 13:38, 28 July 2008 (BST)
Hope you haven't spent too much AP on farming these things to sell - Oysters seem to be sticky items now. -- Rhapsodie 13:00, 31 July 2008 (BST)

Okay. Right. Well. I'm down in the tube station at Earth City. I can cross the tracks to either a northbound or southbound platform. There doesn't seem to be any trains running at the moment though. Will report more as it occurs. 10X 13:47, 28 July 2008 (BST)

phw has been adding what he's discovered in the subways here. Rhapsodie 22:30, 28 July 2008 (BST)

New Tree Creatures

Killed an Ash Tree. Looks like one of the axes is the preferred method of killing. Took only 10% of damage caused by other weapons. Didn't have any axes, not even copper to experiment to see if he was vulnerable to any axe or only certain types. 1200 hps and dropped 12 pieces of wood. He was in the Thieves Forest. Haldar

There are a bunch of new trees in the Thieves' Forest, including Oak, Willow, Walnut, Ash, & Holly. Copper axes do double damage against them. Even though the message says that they drop X pieces of wood, they actually seem to drop X pieces of oak/willow/walnut/etc. --Naimoigiant 22:05, 16 July 2008 (BST)
Perhaps that is the normal drop, but on the Ash Tree above I got wood, not ash. Perhaps I just had bad luckHaldar
Any sign of an Ebony tree? The Northwich town hall needs a piano that requires, among other things, ebony keys. - Rhapsodie 09:44, 17 July 2008 (BST)
I have 3 pieces, Got them hunting Morpheus's - - Avatar_Aang 09:44, 18 July 2008 (BST)
Apparently Morpheuses (Morpheii) don't drop ebony. :( Rhapsodie 10:40, 25 July 2008 (BST)

Bird Cage

You can now use eight pieces of wood to make a bird cage. Might be useful down in the mines or something (a cheap form of canary)? :) Rhapsodie 11:49, 15 July 2008 (BST)

Add a pigeon from the palace, some string, and a memo, and you can send carrier pigeons to the 'King (which are magically turned into SMSs in real life). -- Thog 15:56, 15 July 2008 (BST)


There appears to be a new terrain type at 83E 7N called 'Stumps' has someone cleared forrest? I don't know how to upload pictures I'm afraid... ford_prefect 10:03, 15 July 2008 (BST)

Apparently, this is a possibility if someone uses one of the new axes. Andrewsi 10:28, 15 July 2008 (BST)

Pez Dispensers!

The contest is over, my SMS message was the first. I had the idea of a Pez Dispenser for a prize, but Elseware had an infinitely better idea:

An official from the Council of Great Lords appears, hands you a package,
and then disappears again.
You gain a Pez Dispenser Dispenser.

I'm pretty sure it's a sticky item (it's untradeable and unbaggable), but the Pez Dispensers it creates are tradeable custom items! I'll be giving them away by request (one per person) at the trading post in Earth City near the current party. Random4518 03:50, 15 July 2008 (BST)

Hmmm, contains valuable z! I'd have probably gone for an aaaaabbbbccccddddd... (you get the idea) but I suppose that might have been judged "useful". Pez Dispensers are a cute idea though! --naath 10:58, 15 July 2008 (BST)
My alt, Mark Salen would very much appreciate one. He's at the post. --Ade 10:43, 15 July 2008 (BST)
General stores (at least, two that I checked) are now selling 20 Pez for 100 Gold. Rhapsodie 11:12, 15 July 2008 (BST)
JoolsHolland would like one. - Isambard 18:54, 15 July 2008 (BST)
Yay, mine's a Pokemon dispenser. :) MrBlarney 17:35, 16 July 2008 (BST)
Freya, my proto-wizard, would like one; ragna's busy wacking sandworms :) --Ragna 19:27, 16 July 2008 (BST)

Petri Dish

Make a Petri Dish from 2 Bits of Molten Glass. Make an Agar Dish from a Petri Dish, 6 Seaweed Fronds and a Jelly Fish. --TheRealKilgore 06:27, 11 July 2008 (BST)

Ooh! Ooh! Maybe this is the first step in the Horsie gene lab!! Rhapsodie 01:21, 12 July 2008 (BST)


Is this also a new thing, just killed a gull (trying to get my hit points down before a spell of 'hard knocks') and it dropped a 'small pink flag'. What's that all about? ketchup 18:21, 10 July 2008 (BST)

I see flags drop from more than just eagles. S. Mackie 18:52, 10 July 2008 (BST)
If you collect all three colors, you can make bunting. No idea what that does. Random4518 20:27, 10 July 2008 (BST)
It might have something to do with decoration? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunting_(textile) ScurvyPirate 21:07, 10 July 2008 (BST)
Since it appears we're getting more boats of sorts... "The term bunting is also used of a collection of flags, and particularly those of a ship" -- maybe? Syagrius 02:36, 11 July 2008 (BST)
Make a Virtuous Vessel (in a bottle) and 20 Kudos from 50 Copper Nails, a Bottle of Sparkling Wine, 500 Bits of Iron, 60 Tars, 250 Pieces of Wood, 30 Pieces of Ancient Wood and a Silver Ankh. Requires a Plan for a Virtuous Vessel. --TheRealKilgore 06:39, 11 July 2008 (BST)
No bunting on that boat. Maybe another one. Say, are the plans consumed in this process, as with an Air Ship, or do they remain intact to pass on or use to produce others? S. Mackie 07:28, 11 July 2008 (BST)
I'm pretty sure that the plans being listed under "requires x" instead of "make x from y" means that they aren't used up. Random4518 14:34, 11 July 2008 (BST)

Ivory Tusk

All my "Pieces of Wood" are now "Ivory Tusks" which do all the things that Wood does, only with a new name. Anyone else? --naath 10:26, 10 July 2008 (BST)

That's curious. Maybe it's so you can make pianos; there was mention of making a piano in #cities yesterday by killing off enough white elephants. S. Mackie 14:59, 10 July 2008 (BST)
Andylandy said on IRC that it was a mistake that this name got assigned to Wood, and that Wood is still Wood. However I'm guessing that "Ivory Tusks" will appear in due coarse. I have a dead elephant (thanks GL Andrew!); it acquired a "flay 10AP" button - so I did. Got 8 Bones and an Elephant Hide and lost the corpse. No Tusks. --naath 22:30, 10 July 2008 (BST)

Big Red Button (BRB)

I don't think it was there yesterday or the day before, but now there is one more button at the golden condor control room in the golden city. it's right next to the "return to base (100 AP)". It says "big red buttom (10 AP)". I checked the GC page and it's not mentioned. On one hand I would like to see what it does (in the name of science of course) and on the other I'm a little afraid of what it could do? opinions?--Che-T۞ 10:59, 9 July 2008 (BST)

What's the worst that could happen? (Ok, don't answer that.) Rhapsodie 11:19, 9 July 2008 (BST)
Press it while shouting "For science!" Kaos Dragon 11:51, 9 July 2008 (BST)
My first inclination is that somebody shall succumb to temptation and do something with it eventually. However, my second inclination (and wiser) is that this is yet another reference to the TV show. What did the big red button do in the show? S. Mackie 12:00, 9 July 2008 (BST)
I googled it and the first hit I got was the Cities development page! ;) Rhapsodie 12:25, 9 July 2008 (BST)
I immediately thought of the History Eraser Button from Ren and Stimpy. PUSH IT!!!!!! -- Thog 15:41, 9 July 2008 (BST)
So what'll happen? S. Mackie 18:17, 9 July 2008 (BST)

Well, I pushed it in the name of science, and the only thing I got is "Unknown action: eject". now we have to wait until it's working to see if it ejects everyone out of the Golden Condor, or it's just a "fix" so that people can't hide hats in the control room--Che-T۞ 20:04, 9 July 2008 (BST)

Sounds like it's an ejector button that isn't implemented fully yet.--LimeHan 21:24, 9 July 2008 (BST)

Someone brought the golden condor back to the control room, the condor also has this "big Red Button" and when you press it, you get:"You press the button... BOIIINNINININININININGG!!!" and exit the condor at the current location (instead of moving out to one of the 4 sides)--Che-T۞ 00:23, 10 July 2008 (BST)

Going back to start the cure antidote quest, I found the condor in the city. It no longer has the 4 side roads, so you can only exit it at it's current location by using the "Big Red Button". Guess the King got tired of people using it as an "exploit" --Che-T 01:29, 26 July 2008 (BST)

Earth City Dump

Now twice as big. Hey! Not in my backyard! Schnorrer 11:28, 8 July 2008 (BST)

Hahaha! Rhapsodie 09:46, 9 July 2008 (BST)

Festival Changes

The Festival has undergone a few changes. It seems that Lost Vagueness has gone out of business. Both the casino and the tavern are gone. The tavern is now called "Trash City" where you can buy a "tash" for $5000.

The Lost Vagueness Casino has been changed to "The Downlow". You need to wear a tash to gain access to this exclusive bar. Kilgore

I wonder how this effects the pub crawl? Has Trash City replaced Lost Vagueness (the tavern)? Rhapsodie 10:05, 7 July 2008 (BST)
Actually if you are exiting from the Condor you can access Trash City without wearing a Tash. I assume this is a bug --TheRealKilgore 02:25, 8 July 2008 (BST)
if you go to where the tavern was (now called trash city i think ) you can still check it off the list --rea 1 08:00, 15 October 2008 (BST)

The Bridge to Oz

After making the endless jokes about it, I'm happy to announce that, with the help of Incen (who provided wood) and Ketchup (who provided a lot of wood and labor, that we now have a bridge leading from Cigar Island all the way to the Oz mainland. (Yes, I was THAT bored). Feel free to use it, and to maintain it if you want it to stick around.

As I mentioned, the bridge starts at 44,-73 and travels all the way down to 40,-204 (near Atlantish). If anyone's feeling EXTRA creative, you can always extend it over to R'1yeh at 29,-144. Enjoy! -- Thog 20:14, 5 July 2008 (BST)

Thanks to your bridge to Oz, I cannot speak with one of the characters to finish the master armours quest because the bridge is located over his location. Seriously out of the entire ocean, what are the chances of that occurring? It is a cool feat that you guys did though. If we maintain the bridge can we just let 41 E and 140 S go unrepaired for just a little while? --Mawenpea 03:44, 7 July 2008 (BST)
Sorry about that. Someone mentioned this on IRC, Darksatanic checked the database, and didn't see a smithy under the bridge. You may want to contact him... -- Thog 15:44, 7 July 2008 (BST)
If you are very impatient to get on with your quest you can try standing on the spot of bridge you want disassembled and use Time Warps. I guess about 7 Time Warps would do the trick, a bridge has about 14 days durability. It would be nice if you or one of your friends repaired the bridge afterwards. Try asking the help of a benvolent wizard (or buy the Time Warps, they are not horribly expensive) and afterwards maybe the help of a bridge builder if you don't have that skill. May I say that I am not 100% sure this will work, I haven't tried it myself but I'm guessing it will. --Liquid 17:08, 7 July 2008 (BST)
You can disassemble a bridge with Time Warps - Elan had to do that once when someone blocked the R1'yeh entrance with a bridge. I would agree on the request to reassemble it after you're done -- Thog 18:47, 7 July 2008 (BST)
And the bridge appears to be in the process of collapsing (at least the Cigar end is gone) so this may not be an issue for much longer -- Thog 22:01, 11 July 2008 (BST)

btw, this project was the reason Axes were added to the game for people who need wood in BULK.

The Vents

The Vents are now open! The entrance is at 38E 34N. At the entrance it says "Only those who have travelled ten thousand leagues may ever gain entrance. Time and space are the keys to mastery of Air." I paid no attention to what this means as I was immediately able to travel north INTO THE DEATH MOUNTAINS. Though the area looks wide open. you are only allowed to travel on one path. And that path ends after about 4 steps. However,

<elseware>	New puzzle open.
<elseware>	leading to a second challenge.
<elseware>	pace yourselves
<darksatanic>	elseware: Pace... yeah, riiiight.
<elseware>	this one is designed to be long
<elseware>	don't think the old tricks will work :)
<elseware>	probably take the first person about 6 weeks of doing nothing else
<elseware>	once it's mapped maybe 2 weeks.
<elseware>	but the ultimate altar of air is the first to be accessible
<elseware>	with fire/water/earth planned to open slowly.
<elseware>	each grants a generous bonus.

ScurvyPirate 18:23, 4 July 2008 (BST)

Oooh ooh ooh, here, closest standing stone is XVII now why don't I have any AP! ford_prefect 18:31, 4 July 2008 (BST)
After casting Remember inside the Vents, casting Recall seems to just throw you around the 'Kingdom randomly, so Remember/Recall isn't going to be of any help. Time Warps only make bats and rats appear. A Guide to Time and Space doesn't have any discernable effect. Skip North had no effect.
I've got a hunch this area's paths only open during certain hours. The path ended after about 4 steps for the first quest-goers, but the path ends after about 3 steps currently. Random4518 01:09, 5 July 2008 (BST)
That seems to be the idea currently. I created a wiki page for mapping The Vents, with the latest information as discussed in the IRC channel. The map is very clumsy, please do improve it if you have any wiki layout skills. --Jpv 01:12, 5 July 2008 (BST)

University of Southampton

... seems to have appeared to the East of Brighthelm.

I'm at the Communications Office at 84E 47S, where I can sell a Brand Identity. There are a handful of squares to the East, labeled University of Southampton; and I've just smoted a Dolphin, which dropped one of the afore-mentioned Brand Identities.... Andrewsi 12:16, 4 July 2008 (BST)

Google gives this. --Dragon 17:52, 4 July 2008 (BST)
Brings back memories why is it always blue lettering... ford_prefect 18:25, 4 July 2008 (BST)
I made a page for it so people can add anything extra that they discover. I was going to hunt down a dolphin so I could add it to the Monster page, but it's not on my tarot deck. Maybe you smote the last one! (Having read the google link, that would seem appropriate.) Rhapsodie 02:42, 5 July 2008 (BST)

Bögnør Bash or BUST!

It would appear the next scheduled party is the Bögnør Bash, set to take place on July 11th.
As a Tubthumper and frequent visitor to the Great North, I know it's a dangerous place and one must bring protection.

  • While the host intends to hand out free Jumpers and Woolly Gloves to many who arrive unprepared, it is advisable to bring your own woolens in decent supply lest they wear out and strand you.
  • It is best to bring eye protection. Purchase sun glasses before you arrive. Stylish and effective, it can't hurt to get a few pairs in case one falls apart.
If you find yourself in need of spare shades when you arrive, expect to see at least a dozen pairs of shades available at 4000 apiece at the Bögnør Market by the time the party begins. 01:04, 4 July 2008 (BST)
Addendum: Shades now on the market. Feel free to purchase them on arrival if you don't already have eye protection. If you do, please consider leaving them for others. 02:28, 19 July 2008 (BST)
  • It's almost certain that you've met or will meet somebody who has been very badly burnt by the sun's rays in the snowy wilderness. Those who haven't been to the North before may be surprised they need skin cream, but it's true! If nothing else, keeping it around for somebody else is a good idea.
  • Bögnør is far away, and the roads are hard to traverse. It's also far away from the amenities we have come to expect, and its citizens lack the expertise found in more densely populated areas. You'll find the Market to be sparse and prices high as a result of this combination of factors, so it is best to bring your own preparations.
Be aware that skis are as effective as winged boots on this terrain, for the most part. 18:44, 4 July 2008 (BST)
Great Lord Andrew points out that a way back home is very important. The taxis don't travel this road. Bring a talisman, although any ordinary elemental talisman will do. 20:11, 4 July 2008 (BST)
  • The distance is also a large commitment that many people aren't thrilled to make for joining the party, so a number of Summon Stones will be made available to those who wish to begin a chain.
Update: The Bögnør Bash shall take place at 34E 158N, overlooking a beautiful glacier from the safe slopes adjacent to the Bögnør Sauna. Do take an opportunity to explore the wonders of nature, but as always be aware of its perils. 18:44, 4 July 2008 (BST)
Second update: The High Tower of Wizardry will provide transportation via Portal from one of the four Cities in the 'Kingdom. Wizard alanda 00:49, 8 July 2008 (BST)
  • Finally, the Great North is home to a variety of fascinating wildlife and we encourage you to go out and see (or even stuff and mount) them all, but many of them are dangerous! Always take stock of yourself before you consider taking on a monster which may deal more damage than you can survive. It's a large and wild place, so always consider the return trip also.

If you pay attention to these important safety and travel tips, I'm sure you'll enjoy the Bögnør Bash. S. Mackie 03:44, 2 July 2008 (BST)

I wonder if the party square will override the local temperature.--LimeHan 04:23, 4 July 2008 (BST)
If not there's plenty of fashion-neutral clothes if you're well-equipped. Interesting question, though. S. Mackie 07:03, 4 July 2008 (BST)

Addendum: Just two days to go until my dream of two years comes to fruition. 04:38, 10 July 2008 (BST)

Just a thought: You might want to consider delaying the Bash one week, as a LOT of us are stuck in the Vents right now, and the first real wave of people exiting won't be until the 15th or 16th. Now if there's some significance to that week, no worries, but you may have a bit better attendance if you start on the 18th. -- Thog 05:47, 10 July 2008 (BST)
I wasn't sure I'd mind the low turnout, but...
You're not the first to request or comment on the matter. Essentially, the GLs one-upped me after the announcement. While I appreciate this new Air quest, and fully intend to partake when the party's over, there's nothing I can do now to make certain the party's available (geography aside) to everybody. What I can hope for, as people have requested, is to make it available to the first wave.
Of course, I can't do the Vents until me damn party's over, anyway. Been running low on AP petsitting, and the rest has been scouting and recuperation until recently.
Any complaints if it waits until about the 17th?
Addendum: *frowns* I was hoping for a little more input on this. 17th it is regardless. 21:46, 11 July 2008 (BST)


So now Merchant's party will run until Saturday. I have Saturday off for once, or regardless can start it at Midnight on Friday GMT, but need I say this is irritating?
Insult to injury, the bugger didn't properly document the party's beginning.
I can't say as I'm paranoid enough to think he gives a damn one way or another about my party plans, but it's hard not to take the repeated setbacks a little personally. A diss for breach of etiquette. 19:32, 16 July 2008 (BST)

You lose a Rig.

oh, yes... You lose 43 Doses of Magic Powder. You lose 13 Mushrooms. You lose 5 Pouches of Magic Herb. You gain a Screen (Freezing Man).

BUST! it is.

Aw man, and now Lady Caroline's birthday party has started. You just can't win, can you dude?--LimeHan 01:56, 20 July 2008 (BST)

Agreed. In poor taste, this is, for having not asking I reschedule or at least making me aware. A birthday party doesn't take that long to plan. S. Mackie 03:20, 20 July 2008 (BST)
Addendum: After thinking it over for an hour, I've decided to attend Caroline's party. Always liked her, and... you know what? That's all I'm gonna say for the moment. It's been a pleasure; maybe, two years from now, I'll have another rig and can try this again. Meanwhile, we've a very special lady only recently out of limbo who needs a decent birthday bash. 03:38, 20 July 2008 (BST)

Sorry mate, I'd thoroughly checked the current parties page and saw that the last one (yours) was due to end 18th July. This conversation is so far down this page I didn't spot it. My party's only on over the weekend (it was my in-game birthday present, added via phone from the real life Hobbit at my real life BBQ) so I'll drop by yours afterwards. --Caroline 11:20, 20 July 2008 (BST)


The party has begun (if you didn't get the memo)! There are also party games with prizes that everyone should check out. The first one has started, and 7 Vorpal Blades and a Furious Bow will be handed out as prizes (specific details on the games page). Azuaron 16:17, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Games 2 and 3 have begun! Azuaron 10:44, 25 June 2008 (BST)
Game 4 has begun! Azuaron 19:02, 26 June 2008 (BST)
Dragon hunting has been modified to include the ice varieties, PolyChromatic, and Undead Dragons. Azuaron 07:46, 27 June 2008 (BST)
Games 5 and 6 are available: Harz died on the coast and Bring me a shrubbery! Azuaron 16:28, 29 June 2008 (BST)
Check the games page for winners! Azuaron 15:59, 1 July 2008 (BST)
Check out the games page for one final game for ALL the rest of my stuff. (Almost regret leaving now that the Vents are open... but not willing to stay 6+ more weeks for it. ;-) ) Azuaron 14:01, 5 July 2008 (BST)

Space Pirates

Ahoy! Having replenished my supply of power crystals, I'm currently sitting at the Crystal Exchange (that's in Space, for you landlubbers) with a pirate hat. Anyone who wants to relieve me of it (perhaps to buy your own power crystals) is welcome to it. First come, first served. While supples last. --Greycat 14:49, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Aww. Nobody wanted to join me. My hat and I are now at the party. --Greycat 14:29, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Retirement Party

After more than two years on Cities, Azuaron is retiring (and my alts Harz and Zhaman). I'd love to hold a retirement party for my character(s) with fun and games (largely to give away all, and I mean ALL, my items), but I only have 6 7 Records. Donations would be nice, but I am willing to trade/buy the other 4 3 Records. Leave a message on my talk page or PAYG me with offers. I'm at the Trading Post in Earth City (by The Crown). Let's get this party started! Azuaron 04:26, 19 June 2008 (BST)

I've got four if you're willing to let me select the location, host, and name it. Otherwise, I'm saving up for my Bögnør Bash. I'm sure you understand. S. Mackie 05:28, 19 June 2008 (BST)
Hmmm... that's almost like me having a retirement party, but a bit closer to me using someone else's party for my retirement. Where would it be and how would you name it? Azuaron 12:49, 19 June 2008 (BST)
Bögnør Bash, in Bögnør. I was mostly kidding, since my party supplies were so complimentary to yours. :) Do continue seeking records from others; mine are a bit tied up in this plan, since I've been wanting to do this since parties were invented. S. Mackie 17:27, 19 June 2008 (BST)
Addendum: It'll be sad losing another two year player. Eventually, I might be the only old guard left! Still, there's a few of us knocking about, and you're welcome back any time.
Just do me a favor and don't clutter up Limbo, eh? Always bothers me somehow. S. Mackie 01:58, 20 June 2008 (BST)
Huh, looking at my user page, I've been playing this game for well over 2 years now. I feel old now for some reason. --Prthivi 04:52, 20 June 2008 (BST)
3 years of cities for both me and my lady wife. Syagrius 05:33, 20 June 2008 (BST)
I guess Prthivi and I must've started similar times. For my part, I created this character in September 2005, so I'm not at that 3 year mark yet. S. Mackie 07:47, 21 June 2008 (BST)
I'll make you a deal, for old time's sake. --Tiltowait 20:28, 19 June 2008 (BST)

Woah... I just noticed that a lot of people were really generous with stuff for the party, but not with the character I expected! Harz is currently on a long retreat that ends tomorrow. (Hopefully the pets he received aren't dead by then...) Thanks to everyone who donated! Azuaron 01:03, 23 June 2008 (BST)

For the record (get it? GET IT?), I've made the Rig, I'm just getting a couple things set before a start the party. So, S. Mackie, the Jayco ALTs have given me 4 Records, and requested I give them to you if I don't need them (which I don't now). Where would you like to receive them? Azuaron 04:52, 24 June 2008 (BST)
*sputters* Uh, SURE! Hell, be right on that...
Party will be at 97E 25N (near Retirement Village, and also a Trading Post). I will start it in approximately 8 hours. Azuaron 05:12, 24 June 2008 (BST)
Righto. Sounds like an invitation. I'll set up there and be ready to receive. I'll have to hurry my butt up and get those other records so y'all don't think I'm just hoarding something. (My dropluck is horrid.) S. Mackie 09:01, 24 June 2008 (BST)
PARTY IS ON! Stay tuned for games and prizes! Azuaron 13:37, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Wolfsbane? Part II

First off, Herman the Hermit: Toxicology - 'Kingdom .
Second off, New_Items includes Syringe and Syringe of Wolfsbane.
However, there's a stumbling block. While dark blue flowers, purple flowers and belladonna berries are all accounted for, multiple brave souls have failed thus far to find the Pink Spiny Seed Pod. While such a seed pod doesn't seem particularly crucial to crafting the cure for wolfyness, the order Herman requests such items in is fairly random and can present itself as a cow on the tracks for anybody at any time. Therefore, for many of us, the cure remains out of reach until we can get Hermit to move on from the Pink Spiny Seed Pod. Besides, it would suck to leave the quest half-done.
Anybody got an idea where these are? S. Mackie 06:48, 29 May 2008 (BST)

Apparently, whoever kindly updated the Toxicology page missed my edits. The MOTD is flawed, and I've edited the above accordingly: I'm looking for a pink spiny seed pod. Apparently, the Bad Lands are the best bet. S. Mackie 21:10, 29 May 2008 (BST)
I'm sure you know by now, but for those that might have missed it, the details of where to find all of the new herbs are at the quest page. -- Rhapsodie the very grateful ex-werewolf 09:24, 31 May 2008 (BST)
To aid with AP intensive foraging, the next party has been brought forward and will start tomorrow (2nd June) in the evening, in Earth City. Jennyann 14:10, 1 June 2008 (BST)
Or... y'all could buy a little gin and maybe a lime from a wizard, and between lime juice and gin you'll have gimlets. I used at least nine gimlets just trying to get enough aconite flowers, but it would've taken 3 times as much AP to do the same thing without them. S. Mackie 18:23, 1 June 2008 (BST)

Merchant, up to his old tricks

I've just fallen for a scam run by that horrible old swindler and Cheat, Merchant. I bought what was purported to be a Furious Bow from his mall store, but it's an utterly useless weapon.

If asked him for my money back, and I hope he gives it back gracefully and doesn't pull anything like this again. As it is, beware of buying ANYTHING from him.

However, can I also suggest that naming manufactured items the same as existing items is classed as an exploit and something be done about it. Cheers. 10X 15:04, 16 May 2008 (BST)

While we're at it, could the weapon's "real statistics" section be visible while shopping, instead of just the description? It'd be nice for customers not to have to buy a pig in a poke. Random4518 19:59, 16 May 2008 (BST)

Merchant again? I hate that guy, can we bring him in to negative 1000 AP, and put him on Bleak Island? And take all his items and gold and give them to people? And remove all his XP? That'll show him. But only if you remove all his data of completing quests, so that he's a fresh new cheater... I mean, character. - Cameron 02:42, 17 May 2008 (BST)

I hope you learned your lesson; malls are simply places in which capitalist pig dogs go to make money off the foolish trust of others.--Prthivi 18:23, 17 May 2008 (BST)
Hey, this capitalist pig dog prides himself on fair deals. Wanting to make money, yeah, I'll cop to that. -- Durkon 19:29, 17 May 2008 (BST)
Caveat Emptor aside, I hate to see Merchant pull a Metallica. Come back from the Dark Side, Merchant. Even the most jaded accountant acknowledges & valuates intangible assets such as goodwill. --Tiltowait 14:52, 4 June 2008 (BST)

Fun With Huge Repitiles

In order to break the monotony of hunting for those plot weapons, I invite everyone to make the most of a great opportunity for hilarity. The unique ability we have to alter HR names gives us the chance to giggle like school girls instead of swearing like sailors when we run out of n's. I invite everyone to share their individual hilarious Huge Reptile moments here. And be creative because there are only so many times you can spell poo until it gets old....hehe...wait...nevermind. ScurvyPirate 23:53, 3 May 2008 (BST)

Slime to come soon...

I'm ready to let some evil slime come out of some socks I have, and will sell the location to the highest bidder! - Cameron 03:02, 1 May 2008 (BST)

Two gold and a feather! PotatoEngineer 03:48, 1 May 2008 (BST)
A feathered bling! S. Mackie 04:25, 1 May 2008 (BST)
Slime coming out of socks? A dead mayfly! Gonzometro 04:47, 1 May 2008 (BST)
A mayfly egg--Solune 08:50, 1 May 2008 (BST)
One of this rare, hard-to-get toy unicorns. wfpsy 14:47, 1 May 2008
I raise a kipple--Solune 15:15, 1 May 2008 (BST)

A Mayfly egg beats all your bets! Bet more! - Cameron 15:42, 1 May 2008 (BST)

2 Mayfly eggs. S. Mackie 16:11, 1 May 2008 (BST)
1000 lbs of the high grade horsie poop. --Tiltowait 17:15, 1 May 2008 (BST)
Six sextants, three calendars, and a Peeve against Earth Worms. --Maaaweee 18:01, 1 May 2008 (BST)
Hmm. Is that Peeve currently Harmless, Mostly Harmless, or perhaps even Elite? S. Mackie 21:52, 1 May 2008 (BST)
Wait, it has to be alive? Picky, picky... --Maaaweee 22:36, 1 May 2008 (BST)
I trump you all with this magnificent red hat fedora, which I don't currently have but I may have in the future. Or someone I know may have it so then I will get it from them in order to give it to Cameron. Either that or I'll give you all my kudos for a year. ScurvyPirate 22:41, 1 May 2008 (BST)
Although I'll submit to the possibility that a kilopoop trumps my two mayfly eggs, I still think my two mayfly eggs outbid a dead peeve or hypothetical hat. S. Mackie 00:51, 2 May 2008 (BST)

I don't know, a hypothetical hat has a nice ring to it... However, all these things sound great, I'll need a tiebreaker here to make up my mind... - Cameron 02:47, 2 May 2008 (BST)

Real bet: 1 Uncertain Egg. Gonzometro 04:07, 2 May 2008 (BST)

Hmm, those sheep can be cool, easy to feed, give one to a buddy, get the XP... Clearly the leading bet. - Cameron 15:42, 2 May 2008 (BST)

Gonzometro: how much would you charge for the Uncertain Egg, if it wasn't for the bid?--Solune 17:50, 2 May 2008 (BST)
I put some on the Southern Market for 35k. Gonzometro 18:49, 2 May 2008 (BST)

And the winner is...Tiltowait? Yup, you guys were to cheep to bid anything, so, I sold it to him! We did a secret trade, I get his slimes, he gets mine. So, Tiltowait wins, with a bet of a Human Liver and a Human Heart. - Cameron 13:48, 8 May 2008 (BST)

Mmmmm... Human Liver. --Tiltowait 14:45, 4 June 2008 (BST)

Picnic outside Earth City

Duke Mintaka MD's Picnic has begun at 89E 0S-- just south of Earth City. Come join the fun! --Mintaka 21:02, 28 April 2008 (BST)

Free Pwny Resurrections

In an effort to further our scientific research into pwny genetics (& to keep our pwnys from getting too inbred), I will be offering 'free' pwny resurrections at the pentacle near Earth City. My only stipulation is that you maintain your pwny's status and matings on the pedigree page; share the love lore.

You only need provide me with the corpse and a strike. I have lots of pwny provender, but you can supply your own if you're feeling generous. I can also open a bowling lane if there is interest. Donations welcome. Gonzometro 05:01, 25 April 2008 (BST)

Gun Construction

So, I was looking through the new items page, and I kinda noticed something about the items found from the raptors in the Lost World. A Jubilee CLIP, a Barrel, a Magazine? Possibly the Distraction (Diffraction?) Grating, too. Anyone with these items managed to make a gun of some sorts? Perhaps a Master Armorer might be needed (wish I was one :P) ...

--Soren 06:18, 23 April 2008 (BST)

I have all those things - can't make anything (yet). Syagrius 06:26, 23 April 2008 (BST)
This is probably part of Reactive Armor, which is not yet implemented. You'll likely need some entangled wool, too. PotatoEngineer 18:44, 23 April 2008 (BST)
If the weapon is a 'Weapon of Mass Distraction' you will probably get use for the Distraction grating too. --TerrorRemedy 19:44, 23 April 2008 (BST)
Isn't Cities itself a 'Weapon of Mass Distraction'? -- Sertularian 22:18, 23 April 2008 (BST)
Then perhaps the weapon should be called a Recursor, and should distract monsters sufficiently intelligent enough to play Cities. S. Mackie 03:45, 24 April 2008 (BST)


You forage...
You gain a Violet Bell-Shaped Flower.
You are poisoned.

Did we already know about this? S. Mackie 16:29, 21 April 2008 (BST)

Yes. --Jpv 17:16, 21 April 2008 (BST)

Scary Pumpkin

Anybody know what the deal is with the giant jack-o-lantern squatting in Immemorial Park (Earth City)? its creeping me out. Just sitting there... staring at me. AmishRobots 08:48, 14 April 2008 (BST)

I think pumpkins were introduced last Halloween - Wfpsy
It's coming to get you! Run! Hide! -- Thog 16:39, 14 April 2008 (BST)

Horsies Needing Mates

I have a Winged Horsie and a Sea Horsie at the water city trading post, they are both the same sex as they won't breed, but I don't know which sex it is, if anyone would be willing to come and check for me and breed I would be very grateful. ford_prefect 14:40, 10 April 2008 (BST)

I'm currently at the swap shop with my male war horsie. If you still need one, let me know. -- Belkar 15:31, 10 April 2008 (BST)
Thank you for sorting out the winged Horsie, if any males are out there the sea horsie still needs a "friend". ford_prefect 19:25, 10 April 2008 (BST)

Both Horsies are now pregnant, Thank you!

Red Hat Fedora Auction is Back on!

I'm selling a (the?) Red Hat Fedora! Again! Go here. Hurry! - Cameron 03:12, 6 April 2008 (BST)

You're not wearing the hat. You're in Kansas searching for mortars and pestles. And you're diabolic. How do we know you really have the hat? I bid not sending Schnorrer to throw snowballs at you. Boobie 08:01, 8 April 2008 (BST)
I don't have the hat, someone had it and was hiding it for me. Someone stole it from they, so I'm hoping they or I can get it back, then sell it right away, and get this over with. I'm diabolic because if you look here, you will see I sold all of my kudos, and every last kudo I get to Ravensdance, for a year. - Cameron 14:00, 8 April 2008 (BST)
Kudos that is indeed being regularly sent, so I can confirm that Cameron is trustworthy in that regard. Ravensdance 17:59, 8 April 2008 (BST)

Holiday Trading Post

I'd like to help the BRIDGE MASTERS with donations of wood and think it would be a great boon to have a trading post on Holiday Island. The present bridge tender would stay there and take donations, and then only spend AP's on actually making/fixing bridges -- Payco 23:30, 30 March 2008 (GMT)

Bridge Anyone??

There are 3 of us at a bridge table waiting for a 4th. Anyone want a summon to join a game and get into the lost world?? Kressida 04:39, 30 March 2008 (BST)

Aeroman Summoned - Kressida 07:42, 30 March 2008 (BST)


Sliiiiime! 6E 9N DSSGCM around the Cattle Market and the Bottomless Pit. Snare 21:44, 29 March 2008 (GMT)

Gone. Thanks! Snare 21:58, 29 March 2008 (GMT)

Assorted Horsie Business

If you have an adult horsie of any type and don't know whether it's a boy or a girl, I am offering the services of Hunter, a pinto War Horsie whose pedigree can be traced back to the pwny egg on both sides. I am sitting at the Earth City trading post at 97E 5N for the next couple of days (unless someone starts a pentacle!) - trade me your mystery horsie and I will pass it back and let you know what sex it is. In case "it" turns out to be a "she", please also let me know if you want me to breed them - I won't unless specifically instructed!

I've moved to the pentacle at 36E 23N. See you there! Rhapsodie 08:02, 26 March 2008 (GMT)

Also, for those pwny breeders out there, I've done up a guide to choosing mates for your horsie for those that really want to know what their horsie's alignment gene is (I've never typed the word "horsie" so many times in my life!). If anyone spots any logic flaws or typos, please let me know on my talk page! Thanks very much! -- Rhapsodie 03:36, 24 March 2008 (GMT)

Giving Away a Troll and Sheep

Due to a current lack of time, I am going on Holiday. But I would like to give someone my well trained Troll, and my fairly new Electric Sheep to a good person. Leave messages here, or PAYG me for the pets. -- X-Himy 23:13, 22 March 2008 (GMT)


A large area of land on the east side of the Fire City is now dark. So dark, in fact, that my Oil Lantern barely lights it up. Why is this? --Mintaka 15:00, 21 March 2008 (GMT)

If I were guessing, I'd say someone was playing with Darkness spells -- Thog 15:27, 21 March 2008 (GMT)

Darkling bowing out: Free stuff

My second character, darkling, has been hanging around the Hammered Anvil Society guild for months now, doing little but fixing up the place and occasionally bashing out some more work on a new weapon in a somewhat desultory fashion. He's not really doing much, either for himself or for me. So, I've decided to retire him. I've already given all of his materiél (and cash) of use to armourers to the HAS. He's still got a whole load of stuff, though. So... over the next couple of days, he'll be dumping all his worldly possessions in the dump near Earth City. It won't all go in at once, and I'll try to spread out the times of day he does it. Happy gleaning! Darksatanic 13:30, 21 March 2008 (GMT)

Red Hat Fedora Auction

I'm selling a (the?) Red Hat Fedora! Go here. - Cameron 15:28, 16 March 2008 (GMT)

I just threw the first bid. S. Mackie 16:36, 16 March 2008 (GMT)

Put On Your Detective Hats

A bastard orphan pwny was recently dropped off on Rhapsodie's doorstep. Murray lovingly took this poor underprivileged pwny in but there is still a question as to its genetics. A lot of people are trying to puzzle out the horsie genome and every pwny helps. If you have any information about the lineage of this pwny please post it here or contact murray if you prefer to remain anonymous. ScurvyPirate 21:15, 7 March 2008 (GMT)

Slime and poison

I am, north of water city (I think, I am alas still vision switched and mirrored...) with some slime to kill and one level of poison if someone would like either of these...if anyone else is poisoned I am also looking for people to heal. ford_prefect 08:54, 7 March 2008 (GMT)

Thank you naath :o) ford_prefect 10:23, 7 March 2008 (GMT)


So what happened? --Tiltowait 18:32, 5 March 2008 (GMT)

It broke. Duuuh... Darksatanic 18:35, 5 March 2008 (GMT)
Oh, all right. It got moved to a new host with a significantly different configuration. This broke a few things. I don't have access to the machine or web space that the wiki runs on, so we're all at the mercy of the ECS systems team. Since Cities isn't a critical service for ECS, we come some way down the list of Things To Do. Darksatanic 19:09, 5 March 2008 (GMT)
Oh, good. I was worried I broke something again. --Tiltowait 20:56, 5 March 2008 (GMT)

The <message redacted>?

You slay the Eagle.
You gain an Air Wand.
You gain a Record.

Notably, despite beginning play within a couple months of the game's inception, this is my first Record drop. I promise to bag it and keep it away from my Dissolution spells. S. Mackie 08:11, 27 February 2008 (GMT)

I just got another a week or two ago. Has the drop rate possibly gone up again? I need to start watching Big Brother more carefully. -Scrumbucket 09:05, 27 February 2008 (GMT)
I've recieved 2 within the past month or so (maybe two months), which were my first two drops. Sir Garry 13:07, 27 February 2008 (GMT)
I got one off a rocky horror a month or so back. They are dropping again, but I would put them on the 'everything' loot table, so your odds are about the same as long as your killing something that derives loot from that table. Big Brother shows 40 hits, last I remember it was about 15 or so during the 'big drought' Rembrandt 17:33, 27 February 2008 (GMT)

Jane Everyone no longer a prude

Despite her complaints to Sertularian, I woke up this morning to the following message:

Duke JaneEveryone MD does something very disturbing!
You gain an Issue.

The most disturbing part of this is that she apparently violated me four different times while I was asleep. I didn't think I had *that* much to drink, but I woke up with 4 new issues and no memory of the naughty things Ms. Everyone did to me. I certainly appreciate the peeve food, but does anyone know what causes this message?

Issues. Holding an issue gives the option to 'Freak out' anybody currently on the same square losing one while the other receives one. It's similar to a pound of poop, but different nonetheless since you can't trade or bag issues in any other way. Flt 23:22, 26 February 2008 (GMT)
Hmm, so the disturbed recipient actually gets the Issue. This is quite handy for when you need your Pet Peeves petsitted!
Sgt. Duke looser MD has two nasty obsessions, so I welcome any and all to dump your issues on me!
What sort of obsessions? S. Mackie 21:13, 29 February 2008 (GMT)

Alberta offline

Alberta (the IRC bot) will be offline for (I hope no more than) a week, as our phone/broadband connection is out. Apparently a BT cable nearby has been dug up and stolen, affecting ("up to") a few thousand customers.

- jmb 12:59, 26 February 2008 (GMT)

Lost World Blockage

I'm not sure who parked it but the Golden Condor is currently blocking the entrance to the Lost World - if anyones in the vicinity of the controls it'd be ace if they could move it --Bel3338 17:24, 23 February 2008 (GMT)

The controls can't do anything, unfortunately. Random4518 22:39, 23 February 2008 (GMT)

'King's Moat is a ball

I'm at the Guild Registry in the 'King's castle, and the moat just west of me claims it is:

Kings Moat

I have no idea why. Azuaron 17:53, 18 February 2008 (GMT)

It is a ball or there is a ball floating in it?

Bridge to Holiday Island

The bridge appears to be nomore, I unfortunatly can't build or repair bridges though... ford_prefect 15:18, 13 February 2008 (GMT)

Sorted. Nuru nuru 11:11, 14 February 2008 (JST)

Bowling Alley

There's a 12-hour-old bowling alley on the top level of the Mall (north-east corner). Darksatanic 11:18, 5 February 2008 (GMT)

There is another one up there now... Pri3st 00:33, 6 February 2008 (GMT)

It's gone now. Man, I did my whole stash, that's 5 Doses of Magic Powder, and all four of my Es. - Cameron 02:53, 7 February 2008 (GMT)


Mardi Gras! Yaay! I hope there's more to the festivities than cheap disguise kits!--Hamelin 00:02, 5 February 2008 (GMT)

Throw me some beads and I'll lift my F.L.A. T-Shirt. :-) Snare 00:44, 5 February 2008 (GMT)
I have 7 records. If someone wants to contribute the last 3 I can host a party... Phw 03:35, 5 February 2008 (GMT)
selene has one to contribute to the cause. Darksatanic
I have one Herbacious 17:37, 5 February 2008 (GMT)
Calm Breeze also has one and is happy to donate it. :-) -Stelio 22:26, 5 February 2008 (GMT)

OK -thanks to all those who offered. Let me know where to find you and I'll come and get it. Otherwise, I'll head to the pentacle by midnight game time and you can drop it on me there... Phw 20:21, 6 February 2008 (GMT)

Hey when's the party?
I was going to wait for the current pentacle to finish first... This week. Date / Location to be announced. Phw 21:10, 9 February 2008 (GMT)

This is now underway - just south of the water city! A big thank you to all those who contributed. Phw 11:12, 10 February 2008 (GMT)

Cactus and Asgard Items

I remember a while back the GLs asked for us to report any build actions that were above the equipment, and it just so happens crushing cactus is still above the equipment box. Thought you should know. Azuaron 19:02, 25 January 2008 (GMT)

Also My North Pole to Spear was above my fish. --Duke angelsk MD 13:16, 5 February 2008 (GMT)
And my Hammer of Thor. ford_prefect 17:22, 7 February 2008 (GMT)
And glass swords still, I think. Mowg 23:33, 8 February 2008 (GMT)
The Tunnel Map --Bubba_the_Shy 17:00, 26 February 2008 (GMT)

Darn Crop stealer

Apparently Duke Marco MD coveted my plums. I shall have revenge. --Vainglory 04:14, 24 January 2008 (GMT)

This is why you should watch your plums. Given the chance, any man would steal ripe, delicious plums...
Mmmm... plums... --Prthivi 04:16, 24 January 2008 (GMT)
Unfortunately, I was shoved off. --Vainglory 04:32, 24 January 2008 (GMT)
Oh, you were broomed? Well then, that's different. You have my pity. --Prthivi 04:36, 24 January 2008 (GMT)
I just spent my time reading the the talk page for Broom, so I understand how it happened. --Vainglory 04:44, 24 January 2008 (GMT)
If you can get a pet Sea Horsie, it'll protect you from this sort of thing while you're riding it. Brooms can only push you in directions you can move in, and Sea Horsies can't move over land. Random4518 12:46, 24 January 2008 (GMT)
I got a case of RNG love/hate a few days ago, 4 crops planted, 3 of them were plums, and i dont think i had any stolen. i was expecting someone to see a few crops, and "borrow" some... Pri3st 21:46, 24 January 2008 (GMT)
Duke Marco broomed me off my Wheat field a while back. Strangely, I caught him a week or so later hanging around the interior. I'm ashamed to admit that I slung my pwny's finest at him in retaliation. --Tiltowait 21:24, 30 January 2008 (GMT)

Karen Carpenter's Corpse

...is in my possession. Palantir me to pick it up. --Bubba_the_Shy 18:01, 22 January 2008 (GMT)

Just drop in a KOT bin and palantir her. Kaos Dragon 20:30, 22 January 2008 (GMT)
Or use it for The Totally Ludicrous Scavenger Hunt and I'll drop it in a KOT bin -- Thog 20:37, 22 January 2008 (GMT)
Corpse donated. --Bubba_the_Shy 12:18, 27 January 2008 (GMT)

Party On!

Thog's Birthday Party has started. Best bet for now is to take the portal from Water City. Bring your shades, and Shamans/Apprentices may want to bring a blank talisman as well. -- Thog 02:05, 21 January 2008 (GMT)

Excellent! (guitar riff) S. Mackie 03:17, 21 January 2008 (GMT)
As part of the party, I'm running a few Scavenger Hunts. Jump in if you want... -- Thog 16:15, 21 January 2008 (GMT)
Sorry! I tried to rebuild defenses behind me, but they insisted on using my name, instead of Thogs. I just spent a LOT of AP building and dismantling Hill Forts.... I will try to make amends, somehow...--Kenndogg 20:52, 21 January 2008 (GMT)
No worries. Do not forget the Second Law of Thogistan, however: if you kill something, replace it! -- Thog 21:42, 21 January 2008 (GMT)
Also as part of the party, I'm running an Absurd Custom Weapon Contest. Run by the Park Bench if you want to make one or more entries. -- Thog 15:47, 22 January 2008 (GMT)
Don't miss the latest contest. Note that this will run through tomorrow (I'll be off skiing IRL, so will have no time to run anything else then). -- Thog 22:41, 25 January 2008 (GMT)
One more contest. See the Party page for more details. -- Thog 15:36, 27 January 2008 (GMT)

(If someone wants to start a pentacle next to the party (for trading and/or contest delivery) that would be very appreciated)

Haldar will imbue a pentacle for one and all. --TheRealKilgore 06:45, 23 January 2008 (GMT)

Have wands of anger been changed?

Lately my wand of anger has been aligning monsters to my weaker alignment. What gives? Not that I'm complaining in any way, this is awesome Mr.Monk 23:56, 20 January 2008 (GMT)

Given that I've used one about 40 times in a row about an hour or so ago, I'd have to say no. Chances are, if there was a change I would have seen it atleast once. --Prthivi 03:27, 21 January 2008 (GMT)
Some monsters can change their own alignment (Grues, for example). Were you attacking them? - Isambard 06:02, 21 January 2008 (GMT)

Cucumber-Sandwich-Making Group?

Many thanks to Bubba_the_Shy and Sir Garry, who were kind enough to donate materials to allow me to make the sammiches myself. I have materials left over for five vials of salad dressing; if you're an Earl or below looking to become a Duke, let me know and I'll see what I can do. parking_god 21:32, 29 January 2008 (GMT)

Poison help needed

I currently have 7 levels of Poison, and I am in dire need of need of someone who can cure poison. So, if you've done the Blue Flowers quest, and have some spare Doses of Antidote, I'm at Standing Stone III right now, moving across them in order. - Cameron 15:11, 16 January 2008 (GMT)

I'm sure you'll find some kind soul, but bear in mind in the future that the benefit another person gets from curing you is watered down by having more than 2 levels of poison.
Y'see, folks on that quest benefit from curing a person of poison. However, they get credit only for complete cures, not for every level cured. Therefore, a person with 1 level is as valuable as a person with 100 levels, and in fact that 100 levels is very, very expensive for the person curing. Why people return to the party with 20 levels of poison instead of just heading to Jude is a god damn mystery to me.
Each dose cures 2 levels of poison. S. Mackie 16:41, 16 January 2008 (GMT)

Yeah, I know, elsewere should change it. Anyway, I'm at 14 levels of poison now, losing -14 HP per hour, at Standing Stone IV for 22 more hours. - Cameron 18:11, 16 January 2008 (GMT)

Get to Brighthelm, or buy some antidote for yourself, or go down to the mines and fight big bats. It's true that hanging around with one or two poison levels is generous to others, but now you're asking people to spend 70 (?)AP and seven of their own Antidotes, in order to advance themselves 1/50 of the way in a quest. (If you weren't planning on hitting up Jude in Brighthelm, why didn't you stop when you had only 7 levels a few hours ago, especially given Macksting's response?) --Dragon 18:58, 16 January 2008 (GMT)
Agreed. Asking people to help you is just selfish at this point. The quest design is just fine. When I was completing it, I would cure up to 4 levels of poison, but any more seemed like a waste of my AP and antidote. Some people may be more generous, but you shouldn't count on help from others. If you want to fight triffids, you should come preparred. Buy your antidote before you start killing them, use bigger weapons, or bring along a brighthelm rock. If you are looking for people who are doing the "cure poison" quest, palantir a few of them and offer to summon them when you get two levels so that you are actually of some use to them. --JAD 21:56, 16 January 2008 (GMT)
I second the "use bigger weapons" theory. Long bows are not that expensive (they're not cheap, either, but grow some produce, and you'll be fine), and when you hunt triffids, you spend more time walking than fighting, anyway. PotatoEngineer 00:16, 17 January 2008 (GMT)
Also, this is an advertisement more than an event. ;-) Azuaron 00:56, 17 January 2008 (GMT)

Hey Cameron, I'm in the interior right now and can Stone to your position, or you can Summon me. Find a Trading Post and I'll lay 4 doses on you; remuneration is appreciated. --Tiltowait 19:59, 17 January 2008 (GMT)

Evil Ooze help required

  • 2E 99N (just north of the Hunting Lodge
  • Not entirely sure what the etiquette is here, but I'm in the midst of Pandora's quest.
  • If anyone has any oozes they need help with, just drop me a Palentir.
  • Thanks
  • --Duke angelsk MD 07:57, 10 January 2008 (GMT)
I killed all the ooze. Was a pleasure to help. Hmm tasty human liver... *slurp slurp* wfpsy -- 8:54, 10 January 2008(GMT)
Yeah, killing ooze has it's own reward, so the etiquette is basically spawn them and let people kill. ;-) (Also, this is the kind of advertisement that should probably be on that board to the right there.) Azuaron 09:40, 11 January 2008 (GMT)
I agree in general, but don't usually mind so much as these are short-lived at best. S. Mackie 16:33, 11 January 2008 (GMT)
I spawned mine recently, as close to the Wizard circle as I could get, then just told the wizards. Took about 10 minutes for someone to kill them. I suppose the same thing would work if there were a party! :) Rhapsodie 22:29, 12 January 2008 (GMT)

Portal t'forbidden city 3271 E 128 N

A minor questy thing the GLs can squelch if they disapprove of. The portal will be up for at least 2 days as of this timestamp, more if portals are 2 way, I don't remember. See the MOTD.

Dont waste you time and APs (as i did with +600APs of mine). The 3271E 128N spot is undiggable rock. And, if that wasnt bad enought, seeing a Wizard Hat so close but inacessible is too much suffering --ancev
Well this is odd, I just walked all the way back to 3271E 128N (It is kinda along way Ancev), in hopes of creating a more accessable portal, but creating a portal creates undiggable rock on all 4 sides of the portal. So, err, I dunno. Summoning people in seems like the only way. Hbookbinder 05:46, 5 January 2008 (GMT)
Removed the MOTD as summon chains are required at the portals, will maybe try something else later, sorry for the inconvenience. Hbookbinder 05:52, 5 January 2008 (GMT)
I think maybe you just got squelched by the GLs. :P Rhapsodie 08:23, 9 January 2008 (GMT)

Portal t'zoo 2E93N

Marwell Talismans are far from common and I figured some people might want the chance to go and kill some zoo-dwelling animals. Or vice versa. At the very least it's a nice day out. Nuru nuru 07:36, 27 December 2007 (GMT)

Looks like the animals lost. It's pretty barren in there, except for humans and/or werewolves. --Greycat 23:09, 27 December 2007 (GMT)


Sadly, no gift boxes on my last pass, but perhaps I went by too early. Presents are here, though!
AP, Gold, Mana, Spell Assortment, Bow, Sword, Bound Spirits, more Max AP, more Max HP, See Invisible, See Monster Health, Hat, Pet
Who's gonna be the first guinea pig? S. Mackie 17:58, 25 December 2007 (GMT)

Spell Assortment, the first needing any serious explanation, is apparently random (according to Darksatanic minutes ago). Maybe something bad... maybe something good! I guess we'll never know! 'Cause you're not gonna touch it, are you? Hehe... hehe... hehe... S. Mackie 18:42, 25 December 2007 (GMT)
It looks like they are posting their results on Present. --Vainglory 19:36, 25 December 2007 (GMT)
The most recent timestamp there is around 12:00 something. It's mine. Thanks, though... I was just hoping people would post under CU, where it's most relevant to the occasion. S. Mackie 19:38, 25 December 2007 (GMT)
Oh, I know yours is the most recent, but I thought you might want to post the specific results on present and we can talk about the event here. On that note, did anyone with high kudos get a different statement other than:
You meet Father Christmas. He asks if you've been naughty or nice?
You say "nice".
Father Christmas says "Bollocks!"
You gain an Unit of Charcoal.
When his back is turned you manage to pinch something from his sack.
I guess he was right about you...
You gain a Present.

--Vainglory 19:52, 25 December 2007 (GMT)

Nah, s'what I got, but I wasn't Saint; just Good. S. Mackie 21:53, 25 December 2007 (GMT)

That's the message I got, and I have, um, rather a lot of kudos. -- Sertularian 00:43, 26 December 2007 (GMT)

Addendum: Double reporting, trying to set a standard. Picked More Max AP, got +32 AP or so. 22:16, 25 December 2007 (GMT)

Picnic south of Serts Party

I just spread a picnic south of serts Party. Enjoy. --Schwarz 19:43, 7 December 2007 (GMT)

im back with kudos

as you can see on my user page, im having a bid for my kudos i have 300 kudos, it ends on the 10th i prefer you bid here so bid away bobtheslayer 03:16, 4 December 2007 (GMT)

  • i pay 10k --ancev
  • 25k --Yitscar
  • 50k --ancev
if possible for anyone if theyve done the mixology quest, would you mind giving me a margrahita with the bid please :p --bobtheslayer 00:32, 5 December 2007 (GMT)
if you're looking for an alignment change you're probably bet off using a mirror monster. The cocktails don't always give the effect you want --naath 11:00, 5 December 2007 (GMT)
meh, if i dont get it in one or 2 margerihitas i wont be mad. bobtheslayer 14:37, 5 December 2007 (GMT)
It should be noted that, now that there's guild teleporters that can take you to the School of Hard Knocks (just north of Monster Island), changing your alignment is easier than ever, though it costs a bit now. PotatoEngineer 01:22, 6 December 2007 (GMT)
Perhaps it's not my place to say it (as I'm not bidding) but I don't think changing the item after people have placed bids is legitimate. Snare 00:52, 6 December 2007 (GMT)
yea i know i am sorry for that, but... forgetting you are water and trying to aling a silver catana air, isnt always easy on low ap, and with a limited timespan, i died around 5 times, sorry for lowering though

You stole my idea... - Cameron 01:36, 7 December 2007 (GMT)

soooooooo.... i dont need kudos and when you have more than 81..., and any ways i dont want to let the greatness of my kudos be wasted, since i only came back on to do pointless stuff, and make money just to lose it and this was a great way to fit both in, though it was your idea :p wasnt copyrighted though bobtheslayer 03:09, 7 December 2007 (GMT)

I retire my bid. Not only becoz the subrepticious changing in the item, but also becoz i doubt you will have 357AP to send me all these kudos once (if) i win --ancev

Actually last time I hung out with him he had over 30k ap... so that wasn't wise. -Stien 09:30, 7 December 2007 (GMT)
  • Now that ancev is out of the game. 30k! --Bubba_the_Shy 13:50, 7 December 2007 (GMT)
your willing to bid 65k for 81 but you wont go over 50k with 300, and yes i have enough ap, because i was on holiday island, with over 20k ap, but if you dont want them that is your problem bobtheslayer 14:48, 7 December 2007 (GMT)
i was richer back then, and was under 100 kudos... Now i am poorer, have 100 kudos, and i didnt liked that, if wasnt redsnare alerting me, i would have received less than what i bid for. So, sorry, but i dont to participate --ancev
  • let's raise the bid again then: 35k --Yitscar

Actually, Bobtheslayer, my action was for 81 kudos (that was about 88 by the time the bidding ended) and ever last kudos I get for a year. Seeing as I get 3 kudos at midnight, I was selling over 1000 kudos. - Cameron

Missing Horsie

Well it had to happen. Duke Density asked me to check the sex of his horsie - was happy to. However, it appears that the horsie has disappeared between my giving him back and Density receiving him. I'm hoping like hell that I made a mistake with selecting the person at the Park Bench and it wasn't a rollback (I gave it back about on the hour). If you were at the park bench yesterday, can you please check your inventory for a Horse called Osk. Thanks Phw 21:03, 30 November 2007 (GMT)

Yeah, you clicked the wrong name. :-D But don't worry. I passed the Horsie on as soon as I logged on this evening. -Stelio 22:08, 30 November 2007 (GMT)
thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou... Phw 22:40, 30 November 2007 (GMT)
So was it a boy or a girl? Rhapsodie 03:40, 1 December 2007 (GMT)
A girl ;} Phw 05:59, 1 December 2007 (GMT)
Awesome! Another mare. What type and color?
Oh gods. I just saw Children of Men for the first time tonight, so even the discussion of breeding stock gets me jittery. S. Mackie 06:30, 1 December 2007 (GMT)
A pinto war horsie, according to the pedigree page. Will move her to the "identified" table. :) Rhapsodie 11:26, 1 December 2007 (GMT)

Holiday Cleaning

Once again, the Mountain Trail has become cluttered with Tripods! A call goes out: "Please, save us from this Martian menace!" As is traditional (hey, it happened once before, right?), the Shamans of Cities are posting a bounty for the most Tripod kills in a week. Once again, we have rules:

  • The contest will begin at midnight (as in 00:00) on the 2nd of Frimaire, and end at midnight on the 9th of Frimaire. Whoever has the most Tripod kills at the end of that time will receive the prize.
  • I'll save the list [2] at midnight, so previous kills won't matter.
  • The Order of the Wyrm has a teleporter in their guild hall to the foot of the Mountain Trail. It costs 2000 gold, and the guild entrance is at 4E 98N DSSGCM.

I encourage other Shamans to contribute items to the prize, to increase the turnout of blood-crazed Dukes. Shaman Cor is holding the bag o' prizes, but you can also drop off items at the Official Guild Donation Alt in the Order of the Wyrm (if impostors show up, the real one's username is Conductor). Should the prize grow large enough, it will be split into multiple prizes to award to the top few Tripod killers.

The current contents of the Bag (Fabulous Prizes) are:

  • 2 Clinic Invites
  • 2 Silver Puzzle Boxes
  • 3 Golden Guns
  • Head of the Gorgan

Shaman Alanda added:

  • 4 Fire Catanas
  • 10 Crocodile Scales

Shaman Kenndogg added:

  • 1 Iron Bling
  • 1 Healing Bling

PotatoEngineer 00:30, 29 November 2007 (GMT)

Gonzometro will resurrect a deceased pet for free.

Shaman Macksting added 3 Grams of Spice.

Solune added a copy of YSMR and 5 potions of healing

Armorer BortBortBort gave a Rusty Trombone to the winner, and a bortcube.

Shaman chlamydia gave one each Air, Earth, Fire, and Water Sword.

And we're off! Sadly, I didn't get the snapshot of the Tripod kills league until 15 minutes past midnight, due to a dead connection and unexpected snow in Canada. If you killed anything at the stroke of midnight, let me know. PotatoEngineer 00:26, 2 December 2007 (GMT)

And the winner is: JMB!

Thank you, everyone, for participating! Personally, I got my quota of Huge Reptiles after the second day of this contest, and the rest of the shamans, I'm sure, are equally grateful for making Huge Reptiles once again plentiful! The top five scores are:

  1. jmb: 99
  2. Belkar: 69
  3. Caelicoli: 20
  4. BortJr: 8
  5. agzu: 7

As Belkar is a reasonably close second, I will split the prize (and add a bit more): Thog's Bag (Less-Fabulous Prizes) will contain the custom weapons, alignment swords, healing potions, and healing bling, and I will add 2 Heads of the Gorgan, 3 Bowling Permits, 9 Crocodile Scales, plus my services with a Shimmering Thingy, to create a 24-hour portal to any location that Belkar can supply me a talisman for.

JMB, Belkar, bug me via palantir, wiki, or IRC to meet up to get your stuff. PotatoEngineer 00:38, 9 December 2007 (GMT)

Party Up!

My birthday (Nov. 30) party is now up and running at 12E 6N. Come one, come all! Billz8 04:41, 28 November 2007 (GMT)

We were starting to worry. Your party is doing wonders for my spell archives. S. Mackie 06:53, 28 November 2007 (GMT)
Yeah, I'm not on very often these days. Billz8 00:23, 30 November 2007 (GMT)

Poor Sport

Check out the jerk message someone left me after I put up the party:

Smiler says 'Jeez Bill, your guild sucks! 
At least you had some nice stuff in that guild store of yours.'

Nice. If anyone knows of a way to find out who that particular smiler was, I'm all ears. Billz8 00:23, 30 November 2007 (GMT)

Not him again

The emissary whispers: 'The sailors talk of a new island that has risen in the Southern Seas.' --Bubba_the_Shy 12:31, 25 November 2007 (GMT)

It was new on July 13th, 2006, anyway. Random4518 13:36, 25 November 2007 (GMT)

The Great Infinite Kipple Giveaway

I have managed to accrue an infinite amount of kipple. If anyone wants to share this happy state, please join me at the trading post at 84E 3N, where I will be hanging around for a while (who knows how long). Who knows how useful infinite kipple may be at some point.

How much did you have to get before it became infinite? Azuaron 18:43, 19 November 2007 (GMT)
A bit of Googling reveals that 1e+309 is the point where computers will generally give up and call a number "infinity", which fits with Dalgi's findings. For the record, it's displayed as "inf Kipple", and lets you give 1e+308 Kipple to someone twice without losing any, which gives them infinite Kipple as well. Random4518 20:24, 19 November 2007 (GMT)
% perl -e "print 1.79e308"
% perl -e "print 1.80e308"
--Dragon 01:43, 20 November 2007 (GMT)

See the results here. :-) -Stelio 19:51, 20 November 2007 (GMT)

That's another good way to find crop robbers--Solune 22:19, 20 November 2007 (GMT)

Bag of Leather

I happen to have a bag with 54 pieces of leather - enough for the blue prince quest. Highest bidder gets the bag. Enjoy! Zoological 21:11, 16 November 2007 (GMT)

This is what the advertisement sidebar is for. I suppose that also applies to the kudos bidding, but that at least has the virtue of being original. PotatoEngineer 00:46, 17 November 2007 (GMT)
however, you cannot have a list of what people are bidding in the sidebar. and yes, i am aware its not original. i have no intention of it being original nor have i ever said it was original. i myself bidded on the last bag of leather. Zoological 06:46, 17 November 2007 (GMT)
Of course, you can have a link to, say, your talk page that has a list of bidders. Azuaron 17:44, 17 November 2007 (GMT)
*bows* as ye command o' great ones. Zoological 21:42, 17 November 2007 (GMT)
I think we've just hashed out another standard... S. Mackie 23:43, 17 November 2007 (GMT)
Addendum: Of course, it occurs to me we could have a nicely decorated page for all things auctioned. It'd be sorta like a more fascinating Trading Post. S. Mackie 23:44, 17 November 2007 (GMT)
You mean The Dead Page? Classifieds could work for it just as well, without adding another page. PotatoEngineer 02:57, 18 November 2007 (GMT)
What, I'm the only guy who checks it? S. Mackie 10:19, 18 November 2007 (GMT)
It gets used, but it's notoriously un-updated for many of the entries, and posting an item request on there rarely seems to have results. At least in my experience. PotatoEngineer 19:44, 18 November 2007 (GMT)

Kudos Contest

Okay, I'm holding an auction. Post here to bid. The thing your bidding for? All the Kudos I have right now (81), and every last Kudos I get for a whole year! Bidding starts at 10k, and BortJr has that bid. - Cameron 03:51, 16 November 2007 (GMT)

Hmm, I'm game. 15k!! --Bubba_the_Shy 11:24, 16 November 2007 (GMT)
Kudos are always useful, 20k !--Solune 17:31, 16 November 2007 (GMT)
Sorry, my alt Yitscar says 25k--Solune 17:32, 16 November 2007 (GMT)
Alright then, 30k. --Bubba_the_Shy 17:41, 16 November 2007 (GMT)
Only 30k? I pay 40k --ancev
What?? It's already been 3-4 days...--Bubba_the_Shy 13:03, 21 November 2007 (GMT)
Bah, I guess I can't stop you. --Bubba_the_Shy 12:45, 22 November 2007 (GMT)
Yeah, I'm most likely going to end this on the 23rd if no one else bids, and then ancev will win. - Cameron 14:17, 22 November 2007 (GMT)
You must understand, Bubba, that since the Great Humidor (Attempted) Robbery, which i was wrongly accused, my kudos are pretty low... So i need these kudos (and have more gold than i need, thanks to my prosperous stall) --ancev
Wrongly accused? Ha! Schnorrer 07:35, 23 November 2007 (GMT)
So as not to let the Great Humidor (Attempted) Robber win, 45k. Ravensdance 17:54, 23 November 2007 (GMT)
I must clean my good name! 50k --ancev
55k. Ravensdance 23:44, 23 November 2007 (GMT)
60k --ancev
65k. Ravensdance 09:22, 24 November 2007 (GMT)
Congratulations, its your ;-) --ancev
Okay, this is going to end at 21:00 server time, today. Just to say, you can find the server time in Preferences under Time zone. - Cameron 17:01, 24 November 2007 (GMT)
And it's over! Ravensdance wins it for 65k! - Cameron 21:08, 24 November 2007 (GMT)

Confused Dibs Bling

I had dibs on a bling wraith I had realigned to fire and weakened. I got this message when I logged on.

Duke billwopeh MD just attacked a Bling Wraith which you had dibs on.
Duke billwopeh MD just killed the Bling Wraith which you had dibs on.
Duke billwopeh MD disappears in a cloud of dust.

Did someone put on a disguise of me to purposely take my monster? -- Billwopeh 21:25, 13 November 2007 (GMT)

Yes. The scumbag put on a disguise specifically because otherwise you'd know who they were. --Dragon 00:11, 14 November 2007 (GMT)
I've had a number of kills stolen from me be, you guessed it, Shaman Ade. It's apparently a douchebag industry standard. "King Elseware" apparently likes to steal Jason, too. One of these days I'm going to catch a kill stealer and bludgeon them with a breakfast club. --Ade 04:30, 14 November 2007 (GMT)
You can figure out who a disguised player is if you've snowballed them before. (There's an unexpected use for everything!) However, you can avoid all that hassle by never leaving a dibsed monster on its own. Only attack what you've got the AP to kill. -Scrumbucket 08:50, 14 November 2007 (GMT)
And yet that runs perfectly counter to the purpose of a Dibs wand. It's a bug. Report it. S. Mackie 18:02, 14 November 2007 (GMT)


Should we be worried that many players have turned into Werewolves? Do I need to start carrying silver weapons around? Azuaron 15:46, 4 November 2007 (GMT)

See conversation at Requests_for_Information#Werewolf. Sounds quite interesting. I love how there is new stuff being added all the time. --TheRealKilgore 18:20, 4 November 2007 (GMT)
I want the old ones fixed. Why am I still listed as having never taken out the Undead Dragon or the Gorgan? Why hasn't the last altar opened?
I love new stuff, don't get me wrong, and it's okay to have more than one project at a time, but some of these bugs are ridiculous... more in their endurance after reporting than in their extremity. S. Mackie 18:25, 4 November 2007 (GMT)
You aren't listed as having killed the Undead Dragon or the Gorgan because there's no way to determine that fact. (I'm assuming that you killed them before the relevant logging was put in place to track that information). This will never be "fixed", because it's impossible to do so.
The last altar isn't open because what's behind it is big, complicated, and I don't have enough interesting ideas or things to put into it yet. The problem here is coming up with good quest rewards and preferably some relevant quest mechanic which isn't "bring all of these items to this place", or "go and visit each of these locations". Darksatanic 20:28, 4 November 2007 (GMT)
As to the quest completion markers, that answer is a damn sight better than none. Thanks for clearing that up. S. Mackie 20:32, 4 November 2007 (GMT)
If you go and kill them again, they'll show up as having been killed. Darksatanic 20:49, 4 November 2007 (GMT)
Some of us are very pleased with new stuff. We recognize that some new stuff may be in the planning stages for a long time, because of complexity or intrusion by other priorities. Some things, like barbecues and Part V of the Underearth, seem to have been forthcoming for a long time but haven't emerged yet. On the other hand, Master Armouring, Mixology and Level 3 Wizarding have. We realize that big things take time, and appreciate the littler things when they come. As to bugs, are you kidding me? I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, to learn that there are any bugs in Cities.  ;) -- Sertularian 20:51, 4 November 2007 (GMT)
I'm happy enough just having an answer about that bug. S. Mackie 21:22, 4 November 2007 (GMT)
Woow. Oww wwow wowwo woowwwow! Vashka 09:08, 5 November 2007 (GMT)
I am learning werewolf and would like to attempt a translation of Vashka's statement: Although she obviously spoke with more eloquence and poetry than I can manage I think that the general message runs something like: We the undersigned agree with Sert. Theendisnigh

Ooze Slayer Wanted

...to step forward for record-keeping and Kudos-giving purposes. I left the top floor of Harvey's Farm full of ooze as an experiment and the results have just come in. Unfortunately, I neglected to note the state of the ooze-slaying league so I don't know who cleared it. Will the individual(s) responsible please step forward so I can thank you properly? -Scrumbucket 03:08, 28 October 2007 (GMT)

That would have been my lady wife Domentzia that cleared that for you, a month ago... Syagrius 02:03, 24 November 2007 (GMT)

Free teleports to R1'yeh

So the Hammered Anvil Society is currently redesigning our Guild Hall. In particular, we're moving our teleporter a square to the east so we can install a ticket office and make our teleporter to R1'yeh available once again. However, we have a problem. The previous teleporter has too much life. We'd like to get rid of it ASAP, which is where the free teleports come in. In order to clear the space, we're letting the first dozen or so people who want to go to R1'yeh use the teleporter for free.

If you enter the hall, you'll see the tunnel which blocked the teleporter (the "Old, rotten stair") to the west has already collapsed. Leave the Entrance to the west, head south, and then head east to the teleporter. Enjoy! -- Durkon 01:09, 26 October 2007 (BST)

hi, you still need a boat to get to R1'yeh, I was under the impression that the teleporter was direct to R1'yeh. Just so that nobody else wastes AP going there without a boat, I think I should just mention that you need a boat (: 7of9 1549 October 26 2007
Sorry about that. Yes, the teleporter takes you to 29, 143. From there, you'll need to go one space by boat - presuming the bridge hasn't collapsed, you can go the rest of the way by foot. -- Durkon 17:08, 26 October 2007 (BST)~
Thanks! --Bubba_the_Shy 18:51, 26 October 2007 (BST)
The bridge _has_ collapsed. I'll set up a new one once I find time, but be prepared to use at least 25 AP (with a speed boat) to get to the black beach. Flt 13:28, 27 October 2007 (BST)
I think I've reconstructed the bridge. Hard to tell, as doing so pretty much is a one way trip (i.e. once you step on the bridge, you can't get off) -- Thog 20:53, 27 October 2007 (BST)
Yeah, that's what the bridge does to r1'yeh, it looks how it should.
The bridge is at the wrong place. It isn't at 29,143. Once you teleport there, you still need a boat There is a bridge at 30, 144 --TheRealKilgore 01:13, 28 October 2007 (GMT)
The bridge can't go from r1'yeh space to the real ocean, all the bridge does is cut down three squares of ocean movement, leaving you to only have to move the one square east on your boat. A bridge outside of r1'yeh in the real ocean would make r1'yeh inaccessable. Keep this in mind, you will always need a boat (or some other form of ocean-capable movement) if you want to enter r1'yeh.--Hamelin 05:42, 28 October 2007 (GMT)

Request from the developers

If you find anything which is still on the old build system (i.e. if you're building something, and the buttons for doing it come above the equipment panel, rather than under the "Say/Shout" panel), please report it as a bug. I'm fairly sure there's still some things left over that haven't been moved to the "new" build system yet. Darksatanic 12:19, 21 October 2007 (BST)

pin ->bent pin but it also has the "bleed me" option--Solune 13:05, 21 October 2007 (BST)
Thanks. Done. Darksatanic 19:47, 21 October 2007 (BST)
I'm pretty sure both the Hammer of Thor and Spear of Odin do this when you're holding the requisite Frozen North item. The Cornucopia does not though. Unless you changed it since I made mine about two weeks ago.--Hamelin 17:17, 21 October 2007 (BST)
Thanks. Those will have to stay like that for now. They do other stuff when they're made, and the build system doesn't handle that at the moment. Darksatanic 19:47, 21 October 2007 (BST)
Olives. Pressing them is detailed very nicely in the old style, above the equipment panel. I don't seem to have any cucumbers, or I'd test the sandwich-making process; however, if olive oil was missed, the sandwich making may also have been missed in this process. S. Mackie 19:59, 21 October 2007 (BST)
Done. (Plus a whole load more things cleaned up, too). Darksatanic 20:53, 21 October 2007 (BST)
Practicing music instruments. --yehman 21:56, 21 October 2007 (BST)
That's not a build proces. --Bubba_the_Shy 22:58, 21 October 2007 (BST)
Compiling a Tarot Deck (whilst holding any of the cards) --Bubba_the_Shy 23:06, 21 October 2007 (BST)
Launching a Space Rocket Flt 11:59, 22 October 2007 (BST)
Again, not a build process. I'm only interesting in making things, not just doing things. Darksatanic 12:20, 22 October 2007 (BST)
Aww cheez, you don't have to 'make things' to be interesting. Why... we love you all the same :)
Hey, hey. Good job!! --Bubba_the_Shy 13:36, 22 October 2007 (BST)
Glass Sword. markles 09:59, 23 October 2007 (BST)
Strands of silk. Actually, their weaving button doesn't appear to be anywhere, so that needs fixed. S. Mackie 16:08, 3 November 2007 (GMT)
Making lumps of cactus pulp from a cactus. Mowg 13:12, 8 November 2007 (GMT)

Crop Stealing

This is outrageous behaviour and I'm quite annoyed! thanks 7of9 2057 October 16

Ummm... so don't leave your crop. You can't expect people to not harvest an unattended crop. Azuaron 03:16, 18 October 2007 (BST)
I'm guessing the crop in question was attended. This is an educated guess based on the number of people I've heard recently complaining about being summoned away from their crops. Random4518 04:39, 18 October 2007 (BST)
Well, in that case we should know who the culprit was and are able to organize a Thieves Forest summoning. ;) Azuaron 05:10, 18 October 2007 (BST)
The one I dissed so much used a broom. S. Mackie 05:21, 18 October 2007 (BST)
Farmers should wear heavy boots? Spacer one 06:08, 18 October 2007 (BST)
Heavy boots don't work on brooms. Because brooms are meant for griefing. (Dammit.) --Dragon 06:14, 18 October 2007 (BST)
Aren't heavy boots still broken? Random4518 06:19, 18 October 2007 (BST)
Perhaps brooming someone should act like stealing: give the victim an attack. Gonzometro 08:11, 18 October 2007 (BST)
I like. Best of both worlds. S. Mackie 08:22, 18 October 2007 (BST)
The invention of the broom is right up there with the wheel. Crop stealing rules. We need more anarchic tools to shake the system up. I'm signing this anonymously in fear of reprisals from childish guilds. (You know who you are!!!)
I'm sorry your parents didn't love you. --BortJr 14:02, 22

October 2007 (BST)

Also, Ketchup, the CotRNG considers the cucumbers granite stole to be paid in full. We have no further issues with you or your alts at this time. Feel free to sign your requests for more things to piss people off.
Hey, a crop thief! ...With 4 Brooms on-hand, I see. Perfect timing! I've been trying to test a theory of mine about Broom mechanics. I (Shaman Shador) am at 1E 2N DSSGCM, on a field I planted which currently contains 8 Baskets of Plums. I don't actually want them. Please sweep me off the square and steal them. Random4518 20:49, 20 October 2007 (BST)
Test complete! That was some seriously successful advertisement. As I suspected, Brooms (currently) depend on movement arrows to work. This gives Sea Horsies a new, somewhat unexpected use. Random4518 21:15, 20 October 2007 (BST)
Yeah, I've just had half a field of Plums stolen from me as well by a broom-user. All I can do in return is gnash my teeth and send off a dis. Ridiculous. When one has grown only 26 baskets of plums against 492 Bunches of Grapes, it's certainly a frustrating experience. It means that I'll need four total plots of Plums rather than three to get all that I need to max my Accuracy. *sigh* MrBlarney 17:13, 21 October 2007 (BST)
I'm all for anarchy in the name of fun but that has to be mutual. Crop theft is unbalanced in that you can't prevent or catch the culprit and even if you could there is nothing to gain from doing so (you merely prevent your own loss). Guilds are a natural progression in society, the HAS existed prior to guilds being mechanically formalised. Groups of players (people) will band together to protect themselves from injustice, and stealing seems to the majority to be injustice. If society as a whole, or simply a majority (or even a vocal minority), deem severe punishment a sign to the thieves and potential thieves it's a natural progression. Meh, there is a PhD thesis or 6 waiting to be written about online societies. Second life eat your heart out, the real anthropology research is here in the 'Kingdom! :-) Theendisnigh 17:09, 28 October 2007 (GMT)

The Great Kipple Giveaway!

Step right up! Step right up!

Duke Scary Mike MD would like to announce the Great Kipple Giveaway

There will be quadrillions of kipple given away free of charge over the next week at the trading post in Windy City. All one needs to do is show up and wait. If you're very lucky you may even find yourselves in receipt of a hidden BCD message :-)

Happy Considering!

**** you. You just have to destroy my only way of make some sort of income. **** you all. --Qazxcv (Who still missing his body and can't make any sort of income) 23:20, 14 October 2007 (BST)
Um, Q, you do realize that people were giving away millions of kipple long before this, right? The Kipple market collapsed within about 3 days of its introduction -- Thog 23:35, 14 October 2007 (BST)
And i was the first to advertise my selling of kipple at 1 million for 1000 GP. And what do i get?--Qazxcv (Who still missing his body) 01:59, 15 October 2007 (BST)
Qazxcv: If anything, blame Stien and a couple of other compulsive IRCers, who have been competing to increase their exponent value in kipple above the others. However, especially as I sympathize with your difficulty in this matter, I'd be interested in buying any spells dropped for now. Maybe trade them for beans? Or something? S. Mackie 00:19, 15 October 2007 (BST)
See your talk page. --Qazxcv (Who still missing his body) 01:59, 15 October 2007 (BST)
Ahh, always Stien, the so called "Free Armourer"... destroying the dreams of small merchants -ancev
Maybe you should introduce some kind of Denial of Replication Mechanism (DRM) to ensure the viability of your business? Oh, wait. . . Gonzometro 02:14, 15 October 2007 (BST)
Or a summon and robbery...--Qazxcv (Who still missing his body) 02:31, 15 October 2007 (BST)
Is that what the Rights and Interests of Atavism Associated is calling a lawsuit these days? Gonzometro 03:05, 15 October 2007 (BST)
I like the idea of calling "thieving" "sueing" from now on. S. Mackie 04:58, 15 October 2007 (BST)

Cluster Bombs

So ran out of arrows today and decided to use my Cluster Bombs. As you may know, for a long time they have not clustered as they are supposed to. But this time they did! Did I just miss the announcement or something? By the way, I had six of them. Mintaka 21:28, 11 October 2007 (BST)

You maybe missed out the bug report being removed from the bugs page. That's all the announcement you usually get. Flt 21:49, 11 October 2007 (BST)

Free Bowling!

  • "Night Moves Bowling" currently open at 16E 93N (near Airport). Will remain open through until 10PM tomorrow. Balls available at 5k each at the Duty Free Shop (14E 93N). --Mahler 22:14, 8 November 2007 (GMT)

New Area

<elseware> Small new area open.
<elseware> not much in it yet.
<elseware> and it'll take a while for people to get in.

And he'd previously mentioned it was in Space. MrFoo 22:39, 4 October 2007 (BST)

I'm currently in Space. I'll keep an eye out for it. Azuaron 23:55, 4 October 2007 (BST)
I wonder if its a secret, a terrible secret, a terrible secret of space Rembrandt 03:15, 5 October 2007 (BST)
So, we need pushing and/or shoving to get in? Maybe a set of stairs too?--Hamelin 03:25, 5 October 2007 (BST)
Found it in Space, as advertised. One square north of the entrance to the Space Elevator.
Space Station: Captain Solo offers to take you to the Neutral Zone
in return for one million kipple. [Lets do it! (1 AP)]
Tried to "do it" and found that yes, he does expect to be paid.
You need more Kipple!
You can't buy or sell "Kipple" at any of the NPC stores up here, nor do there appear to be any other new locations. (I actually surveyed all of Known Space using a Map. If there are any other new locations, they look just like normal space from a distance.) I wasn't able to check the Elevator. I haven't seen it as a new drop either, but it wouldn't drop from existing monsters, would it? (Speaking of which, we need a Spring Cleaning up here too. People really need to learn to clean up after themselves!)
I never heard the word before, but Wikipedia has an article [3] that gives me a few ideas. My leading theories are A)kipples=tribbles or B)kipple=anything under "Junk" in your inventory. I also think someone richer than me should check to make sure "Kipple" isn't just another word for gold. (Hmm, maybe check the Exchange to see if it's a new currency?) I'm not too sure though; a million is a lot of whatever it turns out to be!
Any other ideas? -Scrumbucket 03:30, 5 October 2007 (BST)
Kipple is some sort of new item. Double Debbie Dickpig's was selling one. No idea how to get them. Random4518 04:30, 5 October 2007 (BST)
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a tribble-type thing that consumed non-food objects. In any case, I am very interested in finding out how to get one. Or, y'know, more than one. :) -Scrumbucket 04:43, 5 October 2007 (BST)
People of neutral alignment might want to try dying... this may be the neutral player home town now. Maybe?

THIS might help 'explain' kipple a bit :)

I think an especially pertinent part is this: "If you want STRAIGHT ANSWERS about kipple, you could read C.Elsewares answers to 5 questions about kipple, not that it will help in the least."
(Notice the "C.Elseware" part). This makes me think that kipple are screws, as the first kipple was a screw. Possibly, we must kill dogs to get them. Alternatively, Alchemists may have a real use (turning junk into kipple). Azuaron 06:07, 6 October 2007 (BST)
Or you could look at our own wiki's Kipple entry. It seems that some players have already got some, and at least one has made the trip. Tantalizing hints in Monsters and Pets. For those of you who know, please give us more info! (Specifically, who would be willing to sell me some starter stock for my kipple collection?) -Scrumbucket 07:17, 6 October 2007 (BST)
Kipple is at its most meaningful when measured in millions; for instance, 1,000,000 kipple
is a trip to Neutral Space, 20,000,000 produces 1,000,000 per Consideration (a kipple-farm),
and 400,000,000 produces 20,000,000 to give to other people (thus, a kipple-farm-farm.) 
Because such high numbers are necessary, kipple shall henceforth be measured in Mkipples,
or "megakipples." (Mk for short.)

So sayeth the All Self-Important S. Mackie, who is totally gonna call it Mkipples from now on. 19:38, 7 October 2007 (BST)

I'm calling them BillKipples. Since i have over a billion. --Qazxcv (Who still missing his body) 00:36, 8 October 2007 (BST)
That should probably be "gigakipples." There are also people in-game with more than one yottakipple. (The quantity shows in exponential notation.) --Dragon 01:04, 8 October 2007 (BST)
My god! If this keeps up, people might have to get a second pocket to hold it all! Greycat 03:27, 8 October 2007 (BST)
For numbers as high as Ykipples and Zkipples, it's easier to use exponents and scientific notation; it's not like most people know what a yotta- or zettakipple really is. I only know because I looked at wikipedia today. S. Mackie 05:14, 8 October 2007 (BST)
Now that Kipple is overflowing, the question remains: "Where did Kipple originate from?" --Bubba_the_Shy 13:07, 14 October 2007 (BST)
That question has been answered. --Dragon 16:41, 14 October 2007 (BST)

The Return Of The Golden Pub Crawl

What am I talking about you might be wondering...THIS is the Last Golden Pub Crawl...interested?...sign up on my user:talk page...There will be free T-shirts :) Spacer one 16:11, 4 October 2007 (BST)

I've already completed this, but I would be happy to contribute boatloads of exotic cocktails to this endeavor. And other stuff, I still have some limbo talismans. -- X-Himy 19:51, 4 October 2007 (BST)

Spring Cleaning

Citiezens, the mountains are dirty and polluted. The natural fauna is suffering! Especially the Trail to the Mysterious City of Gold and Lead requires a thorough cleanup to save the heavily endangered Oz populace of Huge Reptiles. And since it's spring time down under I'm hereby declaring a spring cleaning contest. Here are the rules:

  • Starting from midnight (game time), Yendoday, 3rd of Vendémiaire Elsewaday, 4th of Vendémiaire. Year of the Snark, the first player to kill 77 Tripods receives a Bag of Wealth Beyond Imagination.
  • I'll save the list [4] at midnight, so that chances are the same for everybody.
  • If enough wizards contribute there may be another two bags of more imaginable wealth for the second and third place.
  • If nobody reaches the goal by 31st of Vendémiaire, the player with the highest number of Tripods killed receives half of the price (I'll figure out how to split it up), and the remaining half is put towards the next Cleaning.
  • There will be a Portal to the foot of the Mountain Trail set up on Pontefract (5th of Vendémiaire) for all to use and to enchant talismans.
The Portal will be set up the same time the contest starts: midnight Elsewaday, 4th of Vendémiaire from 17E 5N (east of the party)
I've also set up a Picnic (+30% to-hit) adjacent to the portal - the early starters need all the lead they can get. - jmb 00:43, 4 October 2007 (BST)

I also want to call out for my fellow shamans to donate more stuff for the bag(s) of wealth. We all benefit from a cleaner and healthier mountain trail. Flt 16:02, 2 October 2007 (BST)

  • The Bag of Wealth Beyond Imagination currently contains:
  • Gold Bling (x1)
  • Clinic Invite (x1)
I will donate:
  • Air Catana (x1)
  • Earth Catana (x1)
  • Fire Catana (x1)
  • Water Catana (x1)
  • Flaming Sword (x1)
  • Power Crystal (x5)
  • Mysterious Envelope (x2)--Ade 16:09, 2 October 2007 (BST)
I have donated:
  • Wind Sword
  • Clinic Invite (x1) -- Elan 17:40, 2 October 2007 (BST)
  • Hydro Sword (x1)
  • Onyx Sword (x1)
  • Golden Gun (x2)
  • Healing Bling (x1)
  • Merz Bow (x5)
  • Arrows (x300)
  • Shop Permit (x1) -- Gonzometro 20:36, 2 October 2007 (BST)

The Contest is delayed by 24 hours. I'm sorry to announce this so short in advance, but I'm convinced that by giving everybody a day of preparation we'll see a much more interesting race. Flt 20:38, 2 October 2007 (BST)

The Portal to the Mountain Trail has been created at 17E 5N. Halali! Flt 00:04, 4 October 2007 (BST)

VICTORY! PotatoEngineer 21:48, 4 October 2007 (BST)
Damn. Second place it is. Congrats to the Chief Potato on his convincing victory -- Thog 22:00, 4 October 2007 (BST)
I bow before the Potato Sgt. and announce that there is no better and greener Reptile welfare activist than him. May Wealth Beyond Imagination be your reward. The Mountain Trail thanks you. Also my congratulations to the two other awesome environmentalists Thog and jmb, who finished second (with 37 Tripods each). Flt 22:11, 4 October 2007 (BST)
I am well and truly humbled. I didn't even make it to the starting line before the contest was over! (And I supposedly do this for a living... Some environmentalist I am.) Congratulations to PotatoEngineer on your decisive victory! I feel I should make some crack about using Unimaginable Wealth for Good not Evil, but I don't feel witty enough today. :) -Scrumbucket 22:35, 4 October 2007 (BST)
If anyone's actually curious, this contest cost me 11 Vorpals (3 of which broke on the same freaking tripod!), about 15 Rainbow Blades, ~20 Blue Pills, 3 Glass Swords, around 14 or so Potions of Healing, an Iron Bling, 11 Time Warps, and the consumption of 8 Red Pills, which I am now "paying" for. In material gains, it wasn't worth it, but I say it was worth it anyway! PotatoEngineer 10:43, 5 October 2007 (BST)

Harvest Festival

I just noticed that GL Yendor (currently south of the party) is wearing a badge reading "Please come to my Harvest Festival celebration!". Possibly a new Open Mic night? Random4518 00:16, 5 September 2007 (BST)

I just checked, and there were illusions advertising it at the Fiddling Wizard Folk Club. One read "Harvest Festival this autumnal equinox". According to wikipedia, that's September 23rd. Random4518 00:22, 5 September 2007 (BST)
Oh! Oh, I've got to make it to this one! I wonder what on earth it'll be. S. Mackie 07:49, 5 September 2007 (BST)
Let's hope it lasts a week! --Bubba_the_Shy 10:39, 5 September 2007 (BST)

The Harvest Festival has started. Not sure exactly how long it will last. --Dragon 19:32, 22 September 2007 (BST)

Also of note:
Great Lord Yendor says 'doNn't aoLL lehahVeh ffaor theh paoRTy, Ii'veh maDe IiT a Party hErE ZSssSpezjiAhllY!'
I can confirm that the Folk Club is acting like a party right now. Not sure if you need to sing/dance/play etc. to join or if you join automatically by being on the square, but there's no explicit "Join" button. --Dragon 20:56, 22 September 2007 (BST)
I can confirm: you need to dance/sing/play something to join the party. Azuaron 15:31, 24 September 2007 (BST)
I got a free beer, and felt more in touch with my roots. anyone else ? Rembrandt 17:37, 23 September 2007 (BST)
Felt particularly in touch with my roots. Apparently, my roots have a history of accordion solos. S. Mackie 18:25, 23 September 2007 (BST)
The real question is, do you need re-potting? Darksatanic 18:26, 23 September 2007 (BST)
I was born Air, into a line of nobility. Although destiny has its own ideas with me, I have divested myself of all official rank and title; I shall be beholden to no man, and only shall make alliances between the sovereign countries of me and somebody else. I honor these treaties, and so I support the 'king, but the path of a Wizard is a lonely one.
I am Earth now, and devoid of ties to this plane. No man shall replant me, as I must depend only on myself. S. Mackie 18:39, 23 September 2007 (BST)
Anyone know if this has an effect, or if another song is still forthcoming? -- Thog 18:59, 24 September 2007 (BST)
As it's over and nothing's happened... I doubt it... unfortunately... I think it was just like a party since parties are so strained right now. Azuaron 21:14, 24 September 2007 (BST)
Didn't GL Yendor appear a while AFTER past Open Mic Nights to teach performers his song? (I know he did for night #3) -- Thog 21:48, 24 September 2007 (BST)
Yes, for all 3 previous Open Mic Nights the reward hasn't been granted until up to a week or two after the night itself. MrFoo 22:32, 24 September 2007 (BST)
I don't know what the hell he's been up to, but the last few months, he's been creating vile smells in that ramshackle so-called "laboratory" of his. Sometimes I don't know how he can stand it. As for the Great Lords "keep buying him drinks", yes, we do. Does he ever buy a round? I don't think so. I suppose eventually he's going to wake up with a stinking hangover as usual, and then go and act all smug by handing out the "results" of all those smells and funny noises to a select few of his favourites again... Ruthven 22:49, 24 September 2007 (BST)
I assume the effect will only go to those who "rocked". Wouldn't you know that the day after the Open Mic Night is when I finally learned to Rock! --TheRealKilgore 01:52, 25 September 2007 (BST)
Actually, the effect to OM3 went to other folks as well (I wasn't rocking at the time, and I got it) so don't assume that's the case - Thog 02:26, 25 September 2007 (BST)
If it works like the other OMNs, a good benefit will be given to those who played solo, and a lesser one for the choir singers; and you could play solo only if you were at least very good--Solune 10:03, 25 September 2007 (BST)
Great Lord Yendor's image appears, festooned with vines
and garlands and carrying a huge basket of fruit.
"Thank you for coming to my Harvest Festival! Let's hope
for just as good a crop of Magic Beans next year. As you're
a music lover I'd like to teach you this country dance tune,
played by the hard working farmers of the Inner Region at
planting time. It's a lovely old song, and perhaps there's
some magic in it too."
You sing along but it doesn't seem quite right without an
While he plays you help yourself from his basket of fruit.
You gain 2 Baskets of Plums.
You gain 2 Bunches of Grapes.

Then, I can play the Harvest Song for 10AP and:

You sing of the rain, sun, and soil.

Note: I used to Rock, but I waited too long, and now I don't. Also, while this song didn't do anything, I'm in space, so that's probably why. Maybe it speeds up farming? Azuaron 19:17, 27 September 2007 (BST)

Anyone know how long it typically takes for stuff to sprout? Belkar played the song after planting a field, and one Sun Flower (he's Fire right now) has grown since then (about 2-3 hours later). If that's not it, I'd suspect it either needs to be done before the field is planted, or the max yield will be increased. -- Thog 19:39, 27 September 2007 (BST)
I tried playing the song at every step of the planting process and only got a different result after the field was planted:
You sing of the rain, sun, and soil.
A brief shower of rain falls on your field, then the sun shines brightly.
Repeatedly playing the song after planting yields nothing new, so it's probably increased max yield, as Thog suggested. (1 crop per 2 hours sounds normal to me.) Will continue to test every hour or so--just in case. BTW, I also received lemons, limes, oranges, pineapples, and pomegranates. Was that the same for everyone who rocked, or do you get more fruit for more solos? -Scrumbucket 20:14, 27 September 2007 (BST)
I played a few solos and got...
The tune is difficult, but you manage to keep up.
While he plays you help yourself to a few of his special biscuits. You're also quick enough to grab a handful of fruit while he's not looking.
You gain 10 Magic Cookies.
You gain 2 Baskets of Plums.
You gain 2 Bunches of Grapes.
You gain 2 Lemons.
You gain 2 Limes.
You gain 2 Oranges.
You gain 2 Pineapples.
You gain 2 Pomegranates.
It might've been based on total skill or on something random. I may have just been lucky, but I'm not complaining. And if it helps to figure it out I did play multiple solos... Kaos Dragon 20:30, 27 September 2007 (BST)
I think people who rock get the above loot, whereas people with less talent get some (random?) subset of it. --Dragon 21:38, 27 September 2007 (BST)

Open Mic Night is over!

Great Lord Yendor says 'ThankzzZzssZ for taKiIng parT ehvERyone!
i nnneeD tooo zzZzssZlEeP oFf theh ekzotIiicj zjOoocktoailss Theh othehR
GReaat lordss kehpt buhUYIiing mmmmeh. ssehe youhU aLL lAhtEr!'

And he promply moved into the plum field west of the fiddling wizard and passed out.--Hamelin 21:07, 24 September 2007 (BST)

Why the bad Etiquette?!

I grew a beanstalk and went after the giant. I saw a giant with full health. I realigned it and went to town on him. I shot all of my arrows at him so I switched to my next hardest hitter, rusty swords. I kept running low on AP so I kept using my serenity. I run out of AP and serenity so I wait. Then while I wait someone comes along and kills my water aligned giant with under 3000Hp. Not cool, not cool at all. I lost at least 200 arrows, 6 serenity, and 10 swords. I'm not happy about this at all. Excuse me for the rant, I needed to get it out of me. -- Roar000000 02:01, 21 September 2007 (BST)

Since we're complaining about theft, I'd like to put it my two bits. I had an aligned Duck-Billed Venemous Eye stolen the other day, after I spent all my quarrels, all my regular arrows, and broke two Furious Bows and an Air Sword. It had maybe 1200 HP left. And I could have put dibs, too, but I thought nobody would be that mean..... --Mintaka 04:20, 21 September 2007 (BST)

Why? Because it's profitable; it's petty, so the thief can justify it to him/herself easily. A large theft might be harder to self-justify, but even so, it's all just electronic data.
That's why I keep giant snowballs, dung, pokey sticks, and a surplus of disposable kudos. If you're lucky, the dis will make it into the Citizen.
Giant Snowballs can be gathered by making snowballs above 190N; they cause the recipient's head to spin. Now, I'm generally against the use of dung, primarily because I hate the blink command. Even so, there's a time and place for every purpose under heaven and all that. S. Mackie 05:27, 21 September 2007 (BST)
The moral of the story here is plan your kills: if you have the AP to kill it all at once, then you don't need to worry about theft. (Admittedly, when all your furious bows break, you're just plain hosed.) On a side note---not that I agree with the thieves---if you've failed to kill a unique or in-demand monster, you're either preventing other people from killing it, or you're messing up Tarot Decks. PotatoEngineer 05:35, 21 September 2007 (BST)
I agree for the most part, Potab, but Roar was clearly conscious of the steal when it occurred. His was unconscionable, as he was actively attacking the giant! No degree of planning can make up for theft-from-under-nose.
Of course, I still second your points on this. I swear I wrote an article about it somewhere. S. Mackie 05:39, 21 September 2007 (BST)
There's one rule I always adhere to when dealing with large critters: If I can't kill it within my current AP range I won't attack at all, but wait instead. And if it's close in AP range, but I still fail to kill it in time, my last AP are for the Dibs Wand. Flt 08:24, 21 September 2007 (BST)
Roar wasn't actively attacking the giant; he had run out of AP and was "waiting". He didn't say how long it had been. Now, I have no idea who "stole" the giant, and I've never done that to another player (my rule of thumb: if the monster is wounded and has a nonstandard alignment, I leave it alone). But if he left a wounded giant more than an hour or so, I'd say he was committing an etiquette breach of his own, by denying anyone else the chance to kill the giant within that time frame. (There's only one giant, and if you don't kill it, another one isn't going to spawn for the other players to attack.)
He said the giant had "under 3000 HP", but let's assume it had 3000 for simplicity. He was attacking it with rusty swords, which have a base damage of 4. Now, let's assume he's a Cpl. Duke working on making Sgt., so he has a multiplier of 7. That means 28 points of damage per attack, so he'd need an additional 108 AP to make the kill, assuming he hits every time and needs no breaks for healing. With maximum AP regen (7.5 minutes), that would take 13.5 hours. So it's pretty safe to say that he was planning to leave the giant unkilled for at least another half a day, possibly much longer. That's really asking for trouble. Sorry you had to suffer these losses, Roar, but please prepare a bit better before you try this again. Bring some glass swords, vorpal blades, etc., or at least some air swords or daemonic swords. --Greycat 13:53, 21 September 2007 (BST)
I think you forgot to factor in the alignment bonus. hendsch 18:55, 21 September 2007 (BST)
Yes, but Roar is just a straight Duke (not a Cpl.), and has a 9-minute regen. It's still in the ballpark. PotatoEngineer 19:09, 24 September 2007 (BST)
It's completely unreasonable to expect other players to wait a day for you to kill a unique monster. - Isambard 14:18, 21 September 2007 (BST)

This unfortunately crops up from time to time, here are the practical guidelines. The only surefire way to prevent theft is to kill it in one go. The next best thing is to dibs it: nearly every player will respect it and there's no mistaking your claim to kill the monster. If you align it, wound it and are waiting next to it you will likely be okay but if you are in a high traffic area or it's a highly sought after monster beware: some players will kill it on purpose and some might kill through inattention. If you wound it and walk away (not the case here, but included for completeness), you are likely to get your kill stolen: there's no way of knowing if you've given up, died or intend to return, and frankly I'm not likely to notice it was wounded until I've killed it and didn't do the damage I was expecting to. hendsch 14:26, 21 September 2007 (BST)

I'm wondering what Roar was doing attacking the Giant in that manner to begin with... 6 Measures of Serenity? That costs, what, 1500AP minimum to get? With that kind of AP, go fight dragons and phoenixes and other random stuff until you have the cash to buy yourself a Glass Sword or two. You'll spend less AP then Rusty Swording the Giant. The only reason to fight the Giant down with little stuff is to upgrade a Daemonic weapon, and a single Glass Sword can make that much more manageable anyway. Azuaron 18:04, 21 September 2007 (BST)

If you don't kill the Giant, you aren't preventing the giant from spawning. I was waiting to kill a giant once like a good boy, as it was being attacked, and as I was waiting another giant spawned in the top east corner of the castle. Either the giant isn't a one in game monster, or there was a glitch. That however isn't the first time I have seen two giants though. -Stien 20:30, 23 September 2007 (BST)

I wish to be a wizard

But I just realized I have no boat, so can somebody please summon me to the island where you become a wizard, I would be most grateful. (I already have the XXXX) king1216 22:49, 18 September 2007 (BST)

The Bleak Island is a horrible place to walk through. Even one way, it's awful. I strongly recommend trying to get ahold of the Golden Condor; it worked very nicely for Apprentice Raistlin, whom I advised on this previously. S. Mackie 05:34, 19 September 2007 (BST)
Or you can purchase custom talismans occasionally from the mall. Like Mackie said, bleak island is a pretty horrible place, including a lowered AP regeneration just by being there. --Ade 14:28, 19 September 2007 (BST)
I (Apprentice Raistlin is one of my alts) followed Mackie's advice and it worked perfectly. Just to elaborate a little on that, join the IRC channel and ask where the condor is, get in, and wait until no one else is using it, then of to Bleak island. It's helpful to use one of the online maps to help you guide yourself and deciding which movement to use.--Che-T 16:40, 19 September 2007 (BST)

Darn it, finding the condor is going to be hard...But finding a talismen sounds amazingly easy, can anyone make me one for the place you become an apprentice? (And I mean, literaly ON the place.) king1216 17:28, 19 September 2007 (BST)

The condor's not that hard to get a hold of, just ask in the IRC channel and someone will probably drive it right over to you.--Hamelin 22:39, 21 September 2007 (BST)

So here I am then

Here I am, standing in the alternate ocean on a beautiful fireworks display wearing horizontal and vertical bling. How on earth did Shaman Elan make a portal here? I want my friends to come and put the shrimp on the barbie and I can't get them here. I mean it's really nice and peaceful, but there's nothing but shrimp. And my boat won't work. And my summon stones won't work. Talisman enchanting won't work. I'm all aloooone. Helloooooo is there anybody out there............ Chlamydia 10:13, 17 September 2007 (BST)

That sounds terribly inconvenient. Where's the portal? S. Mackie 18:29, 17 September 2007 (BST)
I used the fireworks display trick (same way I built a portal to the Black Beach) several (6 or more) months ago. It appears to have been nerfed since then. -- Elan 19:05, 17 September 2007 (BST)
So there's no portal now, and Chlam has been there for six months? S. Mackie 19:37, 17 September 2007 (BST)
Chlam's a mage. I think he/she was just asking how I opened up the portal so he/she could do the same. -- Elan 20:20, 17 September 2007 (BST)

So...how can I get there? Do I have to give up my Duchy and become a magic user to get there and kill 1 shrimp? I have a shrimp shaped peg buring a hole in my trophy cabinet waiting to be filled. Kressida (One tropy away from Sgt.)09:48, 18 September 2007 (BST)

You could get there as a Duke via Eye Pod. Random4518 10:27, 18 September 2007 (BST)
Your other option (and potentially cheaper) is to become an Apprentice, cast the Astral Plane spell until you get to the Alternate Ocean, kill your shrimp, and then revert to a Duke. Neither of these options is exactly cheap, though. Snare 14:45, 18 September 2007 (BST)
Hem, What my esteemed colleague is trying to say is that you don't need to become an Apprentice : The mage guild will be happy to fill up your Eye pod as many times as needed for a ridiculously small fee.--Solune 18:04, 18 September 2007 (BST)
Thanks for the tip Solune, I have left a request on the guild page. -Kressida 03:20, 19 September 2007 (BST)

That YouTube video

In case you missed it, the link for that You Tube video, and what it's all in aid of can be found at The_Vaudeville_Guild/Humidor. Sorry for the horrendous self-promotion, just aware I'll be offline for a time any minute nowwww....... Thanks for all the appreciation and gifts Schnorrer 20:16, 16 September 2007 (BST)

The "Get a Job!" party

As there is no party scheduled next week, I figured it might be my turn. Currently my company is up on the auction block, meaning that while I get a nice chunk of equity in the parent company, its time for me to go get another job. What *BETTER* time is there to throw a party ?! Any ideas for things to do along the theme ? If folks would rather I hold off until another time, just let me know.

Rembrandt 17:41, 12 September 2007 (BST)
I can't think of a particularly better theme, except possibly claiming it's a vacation getaway. What better time to vacation than when you're not working anyway? S. Mackie 07:07, 13 September 2007 (BST)

As follow up, I feel the compelling need to mention that during this party, I was offered not one, but TWO jobs. I'm in final negotiations on the one I preferred, with the other as a backup. Hows that for friggen karma ?? Rembrandt 20:58, 25 September 2007 (BST)

Muy awesome for youz. S. Mackie 06:21, 26 September 2007 (BST)

Potato Powered MMORPG

I heard that Cities was about to become the very first vegetable powered online game as it's going to be run on a Spud Server. The very same kind of Spud Server which Totl originally pioneered. Have any of the major news sources picked up on this yet? I believe that the current plans are for it to go live around April next year, but I was thinking that we should perhaps start to plan the publicity drive for this as soon as possible. 10X

Wizards Rejoice!

So unless I'm way behind the times, I noticed that the Wizards Shops inside the four cities now sell elemental stones in quantities of 1, 10, and 100. (General stores do the same with talismans now, but you can't wreak elemental havock with talismans). -- Thog 19:26, 7 September 2007 (BST)

I noticed a couple of days ago. I thought I was just behind the times. Nice to see I haven't been missing out for too long! --Ade 21:04, 7 September 2007 (BST)
Well, there's nothing to say we're not both behind the times :-) -- Thog 21:22, 7 September 2007 (BST)
It's not too old. I think the first wiki mention was a week ago. --Dragon 01:46, 8 September 2007 (BST)


I've just realised that loads of shops are going out of business, and those that are in business seem to be offering to buy items at amounts that are quite miniscule.

Has the economy crashed? Is the trade model no longer working?

What seems to happen is that when a new quest is opened, the prices of certain items go through the roof, but as monster drops increase their availability, there's no call for them. However, what also happens is that when people come to the quests later on, they have to rely on drops alone, because there's no market visibility or perception that these items have a high value.

This is all anecodatal and observational - does anyone which either a higher attention span, or knowledge of micro-economic modelling, or who actually understands those graphing tools and bot-feeds that someone set up a while back, actually want to try some kind of assessment, or have a proper look at the situation?

10X 16:13, 7 September 2007 (BST)

Selling items at shops has become a last resort for me. I seldom see a price on raw materials that I can consider anything better than a ripoff. Actually, as a result of that trend, I won't even examine the selling prices anymore, so it's possible that's changed. Also possible I've been frequenting the wrong shops. Anyway, I'll buy from them, but I won't often sell.
I'm vastly more likely to hit up the mall; I can compare its prices to the ones in the Markets. That goes a long way. Besides, it takes less walking.
Finally, as a Wizard and a guild member, I assume I can get some kind of deal on about anything. S. Mackie 17:34, 7 September 2007 (BST)
To what are you referring? It would be good to have a specific reference about what you mean, but I don't see this as anything recent. Shops have been going out of business ever since there have been shops. Some shops sell things people actually seem to want, and those aren't going anywhere. As for buy prices, in some cases I agree with you--but this is probably a result of the lack of ability to stop buying something. If you buy an item, someone could come along and sell you 1000, even if you didn't want more than 20--so you have to protect the gold supply in your shop. Also, if the item is available from an NPC shop, you have to put your buy price below 50% of that shop's selling price, to avoid trouble. And some players choose to run their shops to primarily sell instead of buy. Even so, people sell my shop a lot of various stuff, so the general perception seems to be that at least some of my buy prices are reasonable.
As for the quest items, I'm again not sure what you're specifically talking about. It's true that there's often a spike in item prices after something is needed for a quest, but after that it either tends to level off, or goes back down, or in some cases mostly disappear off the market. In any of these cases I'd disagree with the statement that "there's no market visibility or perception that these items have a high value"--if the item is truly valuable, the market will show that; if not, it won't. A few examples:
  • CDs: Originally these varied in price; shamans needed them all and some were rarer than others. Then, since there were relatively few wizardly types in-game and no other sink for them, even the semi-rare ones (M-V) became common. Now, the only ones worth anything are YSMR, YDNY, and to a lesser extent the alternate ocean ones. And the market prices bear this out.
  • Crocodile scales: Back In The Day, these used to sell for about 1k each. But more and more players have gone on a Hard Knocks binge (possibly sparked by me, although I no longer really go for it), and the price has climbed. Still, the market bears this out--while sometimes they even sell out, one can see that they now tend to go for 10-15k--a price I personally consider absurd, but clearly other people do not. It's hard to argue there's no "perception that these items have a high value" there.
  • Metal: Has gone up some as there have gotten to be more uses for it (weapons, armour, Master Armourer quest, etc.) However, it seems to have roughly leveled off and even come back down, as people react to this price increase--or rather, usage increase--by mining more (and the introduction of misril bling probably has a lot to do with this).
In any case, I don't know why this would be termed a recession--even if shops are failing more than they have been (which I'm not sure of), and the market is no longer reasonable (which I doubt), I'm pretty sure there's still a thriving economy of trade and sale outside of these establishments. --Dragon 18:17, 7 September 2007 (BST)
Re: low shop prices and protecting your gold supply: I just did a little number-crunching, and as of this moment, my shop has lost over 350,000 GP. If I count the current stock, of course, I've made a tidy profit, but that's why people keep low buy prices: to limit the number of goods coming in, so they don't have to put so much money into the shop. PotatoEngineer 18:44, 7 September 2007 (BST)
I've noticed my shop has been buying things far more than selling lately, but I also cut my stock back significantly. I'm still carrying a full supply of cards and Heinlein books (I buy them for 50% of what I can sell them to NPCs for and offer them for resale at the NPC prices) and occasionally stock up on talismans, but most of the rest is just things I have lying around. On the other hand, most of what I'll buy are items I want for myself (blessed swords, cucumber sammiches, etc), so have been offering prices I feel are reasonable, but a little below market value. If someone wants to make a little more money, they can sell in their own shops or the markets but if they want to get rid of it quickly, then I consider my rate to be the price of convenience (and an attempt to protect at least some of the gold I have in there). -Jon 15:49, 8 September 2007 (BST)

I'll skip the indentation thing because this isn't a response to any particular comment. My shop, which is in the mall, buys a lot more than it sells. I've lowered my prices (both buy and sell price), and put more gold in, and still: the shop buys more than it sells, until it runs out of gold. I did it again. Still: the shop buys more than it sells, until it runs out of gold.

This is not to say I've never sold a cactus or two, because I have. And wormwood's hard to keep in stock. But I appear to be the game's parsley/sage/oregano sink; no matter how low I price them, I think I'd still have an influx of them, since nobody wants them once they're done with the hermit quest.

Most of my trade income actually comes from the Southern Market, which is where I dump all the extra stuff I get from monsters, typically in bulk every week or so. The market is far more convenient for me than trying to run around a multi-story mall and find shops that buy stuff I have and which haven't run out of gold. Even if something doesn't sell for two months or more, that's fine by me. When I stop by the market office again, I pick up the 100k gold (or whatever) that I'm owed, and go on with whatever I was doing.

I also tend to buy in bulk. Today, for example, I bought somewhere around 22 baskets of plums even though I only needed 10 or 11 of them. I put the ones I didn't need back into the market office, at a slight markup. It was worth more to me to save the AP by buying all the available plums in that lot for 1 AP, than to have more gold on hand until the plums sell but spend 1 AP per basket. (This is a place where the mall stores beat the market: I can specify a quantity to buy, rather than "1" or "all". But the mall stores are typically understocked on anything I'd actually want, while the southern market almost always has it.)

In summary: I don't think there's any "recession". I just think the way stores work is tedious and AP-expensive. --Greycat 23:41, 10 September 2007 (BST)

The Curse Of The Terrible Humidor

Be careful what you wish for. You just may get it.

Upon the birth of my son, back in January, the Great Lords saw fit to present me with a magical Humidor. A wonderous device from which cigars could endlessly be produced. These cigars essentially had the same properties as fags in terms of AP gain, combined with HP loss with the slight risk of lowered max AP or HP too. I gave them out freely in celebration of the arrival of my little boy Zack on the planet. Many enjoyed them.

Now, Zack is crawling and has teeth, but the humidor has become a curse upon me. 'How? Why?' you may ask. Well, I have for too long now been availing myself of the benefits of AP gain, but the toll has been high. Oh yes. My max AP and HP are battered to the point now where I have to do something about it and rid myself of this monkey on my back.

My name is XXXXXXXXXX and I am a cigar addict.

This is my attempt to get clean. And also (heh heh heh) pass on the curse, and in doing so make the game just a tiny bit more interesting too.

(The only caveat to the offer I am about to make is that it be, at some point, loaned to PotatoEngineer for his quest. I thought that might be nice for him). However - he is also free to make an offer for it himself to keep permanently too, should he so wish.

Smoking cigars is a gamble. Some evenings I've been able, through a combination of Dragon Stone use and cigars, to gain several hundred extra AP in the space of a few minutes. If you've got a massive max AP & HP combination, achieved through various means, surely that's a risk you'd be willing to take? This unique item has its price. The toll it takes may be mighty. But maybe *you* could be the one to beat the odds. Maybe you would use Universal Solvent to destroy it. Maybe you could place it out of reach - guarded by Polychromatic Dragons, placed on the corpse of a mule, deep under the ground - a quest such as this could be your legacy to the game, perhaps? Or you could come up with another solution or scheme.

So - my desire is this: Offer me cucumber sandwiches and Hard Knocks items so that I may regain my constitution. Offer me many of them. A great many. And to the highest bidder goes the terrible Cursed Humidor to do with as he, she or zhe wishes.

10X10X 19:37, 3 September 2007 (BST)

It also occurs to me that this may be a useful item for a guild to possess.
  • I bid a pheonix feather. Kaos Dragon 16:34, 6 September 2007 (BST)
YOU HAVE BEEN OUTBID. BID AGAIN NOW! Reminder: Even if you don't bid again, you could still end up the winner if higher bids are cancelled or retracted. Continue to check the status of this item until it ends.10X 15:55, 7 September 2007 (BST)
  • I'll bid thirty Phoenix feathers and five triffid stings and a unicornucopia! Quantum 20:18, 10 September 2007 (BST)
  • I bid 100.000 GP in cash. (...and may I recommend The Cucumber Factory for your Sandwich needs?) --TerrorRemedy 21:21, 10 September 2007 (BST)
Just to clarify - that's one hundred thousand gold pieces, right? Not one hundred gps. 10x
Yeah, one hundred thousand gold pieces. (But if you prefer one hundred point zero zero zero gps I think I can fix that too :) ) --TerrorRemedy 22:56, 10 September 2007 (BST)
  • I'll bid 17 Roc Rocks, 12 Triffid Stings, 100 Phoenix Feathers, and 56 cloves of garlic. PotatoEngineer 00:45, 11 September 2007 (BST)
The 100k cash beats that, I'm afraid.
How, pray tell? Conservatively, the Roc Rocks alone are 4k apiece, the triffid stings around 1500, and the garlic 500 each, and that's leaving out the Phoenix Feathers. And if you were to buy these on the markets or Mallr, you'd be paying about 50% more. But if you'd honestly prefer cash over items, then I'll bid 120k. PotatoEngineer 03:26, 11 September 2007 (BST)
"How, pray tell?" - Well, really, because of the effects of Nightingspells and their common use at parties and pentacles, Max HP isn't such an issue these days. I'm thinking of the cash in terms of the number of cucumber sandwiches it can buy. Also, percieved cash value of items isn't uniform. I could burn around the interior with a Ghastly Bling and a couple of Bashing Stuff spells and pick up those items for a quite low AP spend. So, to me, their value is low in comparison to hard cash. I could, of course, sell them myself, but meh, boring. 10X 09:20, 11 September 2007 (BST)
Ah, I didn't realize you were weighting more towards AP. I'll change my bid to 120,000 GP, then. PotatoEngineer 11:14, 11 September 2007 (BST)
  • 130.000 GP. Sorry PotatoMan, I'm too rich to be nice. --Bubba_the_Shy 11:19, 11 September 2007 (BST)
  • Perhaps we could change the currency of the auction into cucumber sandwiches. Either at their current market value, or into the number you can personally supply me with? My current tolerance stands at 12 sandwiches and I'm looking to gain back 70-80AP. Umm... and I've no head for numbers, so someone else could perhaps figure out what the 'reserve' is on this auction. I don't think I'm being greedy here. A dedicated buyer or guild could recoup their investment with some intelligent use of this item within a reasonable amount of time. I may throw in a Speeder Bike, to sweeten the deal, if the price goes high enough. 10X 10X 11:34, 11 September 2007 (BST)
So you want at least 24 sets of sandwiches; that's a total of (13+36)/2*24, or 588 sandwiches. At Cucumber Factory prices (they only have 86, by the way), that's 4,704,000 GP. So, who's got 4.7 million GP to spare? PotatoEngineer 11:55, 11 September 2007 (BST)
Hmm... I didn't realise it would come out at that much. I'm seeing some people approaching 1000 max AP though, so there must be good sources of sandwiches out there, which come at a far lower cost price to their creators. Ah well, the item's worth whatever anyone's willing to pay for it, so let the bidding continue. Sandwiches or cash. Whichever. And I'm now officially chucking in the Speeder Bike. So, at present, the winner is getting a bargain. 10X
I've been working towards 1000 maxAP for some time and am still only a little over 800. The costs grow with each AP raise and I rarely make my own sandwiches. There are other methods of gaining AP (human liver comes to mind, but I know you just bought one from my store). Have you done all 3 AP raising quests? -Jon
I think the only way to get there is to wait for Elseware's birthday, and not spend all your gifts on silly hats or horsies--Solune 14:26, 11 September 2007 (BST)

Since this auction doesn't have the eBay-style setup, and I happen to be the proprietor of the Sandwich Factory, I'll just say that I'm willing to outbid the highest bidder by 1 Cuke Sandwich. As of right now, that would be 130k/8k + 1 = 17 sandwiches. This bid stands until I cancel it. Billz8 14:28, 11 September 2007 (BST)

Well, no sense in letting Billz8 have it cheap. I'll bid 170k. PotatoEngineer 21:12, 11 September 2007 (BST)
22 Sandwiches. Billz8 02:38, 12 September 2007 (BST)
Okay, one last bid, because I just can't resist: 180k, and.... 164 Fags. PotatoEngineer 06:57, 12 September 2007 (BST)
Heh, offering Fags to someone who's trying to quit this bad habit. How very pernicious of you... 200k GP --Bubba_the_Shy 12:59, 12 September 2007 (BST)
25 sandwiches Billz8
  • Okay. I have just, in effect, put a Buy It Now price on the Humidor by putting it on sale in the Mall. However, this auction still stands, if no one buys it within a reasonable amount of time. 10X10X 13:34, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  • 400k GP! (You sure you don't want those Fags I'm offering?) PotatoEngineer 15:18, 13 September 2007 (BST)
Stop it! Wait? If they're Sobranies, maaaybe.... no, no... stop it! X
400k? When I checked Mallr it showed up as 3,500,000 GP (note, that's 437.5 sammiches) . -Jon 21:08, 13 September 2007 (BST)
That's just the 'Buy It Now' price for anyone wealthy enough to not bother with the auction. I'm anticipating that this will still produce a buyer rather than that option. X
Aahh, my bad. I thought PE was suggesting the Buy It Now was 400k and wondering where he came up with that number. Just ignore me. -Jon 21:56, 13 September 2007 (BST)

400/8 + 1 = 51 Sandwiches. Billz8 21:59, 13 September 2007 (BST)

When exactly does this auction end? What is the "buy it now" option? -JAD

500k and a Toy Unicorn! PotatoEngineer 08:19, 14 September 2007 (BST)

The Auction ends when bidding dries up, indicating final offers have pretty much been reached. The Buy It Now option can be found on the 13th floor of the Mall.

Ha! I bid a performance of Sleeping Beauty where I am dressed up like Steve Gerrard and I'm awakened by a kiss from the lovely Robin Williams who is dressed in fishnets and a diamond bling. There will be fountains, wandering troubadours and special guest star Benji the Dog. You will also be personally honoured on The Vaudeville Guild website and get the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to broadcast a xmas speech from the Guild Comms room to all guild members. Thank you and goodnight Schnorrer 09:28, 14 September 2007 (BST)

If you put that on You Tube before the end of the week, it's yours. Performing with action figures or puppets is acceptable. Seriously. X
Hmm...if I wasn't moving house on Monday it'd be done - it might even yet - we're talking Sunday end of the week here? Schnorrer 17:43, 14 September 2007 (BST)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ngu0ebuKp98 with compliments Schnorrer 18:08, 15 September 2007 (BST)
That's... spectacular. Tell me, were you certifiable before you started playing Cities, or have we made you this way? Either way, our job here is done... :) Darksatanic 18:40, 15 September 2007 (BST)
Sorry, no credit for you - this stems back beyond sixth form biology where I used to balance things on my nose and make seal noises - not that usual in an all girls' school. And in any case, in my experience it's not usually the people who do things like me who end up certifiable. Schnorrer 20:18, 15 September 2007 (BST) (It is nice to have an appreciative audience though!)
Odd. Must be something about biology lessons. I got my nickname from a biology teacher at school. Darksatanic 00:28, 16 September 2007 (BST)
Someone post this video on the main page of the wiki!--Hamelin 03:15, 16 September 2007 (BST)
I second that motion. I am scarred (probably til the end of days) but giggling in wild amusement. -Jon 15:21, 16 September 2007 (BST)

500/8 + 1 = 64 Sandwiches. And I'll be pretty upset if you hold an auction but then give it away to someone for doing a puppet show. Billz8 18:26, 14 September 2007 (BST)

Cry baby bunting...:-P
I'm of the opinion that giving a Humidor away for an absurd YouTube video is made of awesome. And weird. And absurd. But definitely awesome. PotatoEngineer 19:50, 14 September 2007 (BST)
Concurred! --Bubba_the_Shy 12:43, 15 September 2007

  • Wonderful! Brave maestro! The humidor passes to the Vaudeville Guild. Come to the trading post in Fire City to recieve it. I suggest you give this masterpiece its own Wiki page and Current Events heading. 18:46, 15 September 2007 (BST)
Words fail me. I am so delighted to receive this incredible honour. It will be the Guild's most treasured possession and we will certainly honour the loan to potatoengineer. What does a humidor do again? :) Schnorrer 09:59, 16 September 2007 (BST)

S. Mackie's and Sheyona's Wedding (no) Party

In two months' time, Sheyona and I will be married. We'd very much like to hold something more sophisticated than a picnic, and something more inclusive than a pentacle. We'd rather like, in fact, to hold a party.
However, at this time, we lack nine records needed for said party. We're willing to take offers and such; we're also willing to bribe a scheduled party-host to use their rig. And yes, I'm aware that Aazamon is selling 10 records in the Flea Market shop, but at 150,000 apiece? I don't have enough for even one at that price.
Particularly, I've noticed there are people what have most of a rig together but lack components of which we have considerable extra. We would like to propose a trade along those lines, as it might be mutually beneficial.

I am willing to offer my copy of YDNY toward this end. Mackie, let me know where to meet you to deliver it. Syagrius 20:31, 22 August 2007 (BST)
How's that going to help? They need Records, not CD singles.--Hamelin 23:35, 22 August 2007 (BST)
Can be traded for records, or look down 2 spaces for a rig trade. :) Syagrius 23:44, 22 August 2007 (BST)
That would require 'You Spin Me', not 'Your Disco Needs You.' On the other hand, I have 6 records I'll never use. Gonzometro 03:06, 23 August 2007 (BST)
YSMR is what I have. My bad ;) Syagrius 05:07, 23 August 2007 (BST)
It wouldn't help directly, seeing as how I'm very bad at finding rare items. (Otherwise, I'd've had more than 1 record before they were nerfed.) I think I'll hold that option in reserve, in case I find more YSMRs available in sufficient number to purchase said rig. S. Mackie 05:40, 23 August 2007 (BST)
Time for me to start hunting then :) Syagrius 14:19, 23 August 2007 (BST)
I have unwittingly become the recipient of a record. One of those summon gifts. I guess I'll just have to record it on my christmas gift list. S. Mackie 18:10, 23 August 2007 (BST)
Do you want those records then? It'd put you within reach of a party. Gonzometro 19:50, 23 August 2007 (BST)
How did I miss that post? Oi. Okay, sure, it'd put us at 8. Most kind of you to consider letting go of your records; the common modus operandi seems to be to hoard them in hopes of starting one's own party.
It should be noted that I'll be a toad for quite a while shortly enough; I'm totally wankered right now, having just completed the Mixology quest. 25 mixes in one sitting. S. Mackie 20:10, 23 August 2007 (BST)
I... I guess these are my wedding presents. I've got two more records, bringing my number up to 4 at this time. Syagrius, I'm willing to take yours now, as it'll bring us up to halfway there. This is starting to look remarkably feasible. Again, I'm willing to make trades for remaining records; a party's beneficial to everybody, but one doesn't get to run one's own every day. Also, this won't actually happen until we're married, so don't expect instant gratification for your help.
Addendum: Hangover is, well, over. Now on the Condor, freely available for trade offers along these lines. Bear in mind, I'm a Shaman, so elemental weaponry really isn't that difficult. S. Mackie 11:08, 24 August 2007 (BST)
Do remember, mine is a CD single, usable to trade for records and somesuch. Let me know where to find ya and I'll drop it your way. Syagrius 03:46, 25 August 2007 (BST)
Oh. You know what? Never mind. Heh. S. Mackie 08:01, 25 August 2007 (BST)
Addendum: I owe several people debts I can't quite think how to repay. At the moment, they've simply made my Christmas list. I'll have to work on it a few months from now. Sadly, I forgot one of the donors and lost the History note before I could recover it! Grr. However, at this time, we've 8 records. 8. From 1 when this topic started. 4 from one source. A source who would like to remain anonymous, so y'all don't worry about it.
I think what really bothers me is that I'm not expected to repay any of this. I guess I've always felt a little odd about charity, except apparently offering it. S. Mackie 16:42, 25 August 2007 (BST)
Those indents were getting crazy. But I feel I talk for a lot of players when I say a founding member of the Tubthumpers deserves a nice present now and then, aye? =)--Hamelin 19:40, 25 August 2007 (BST)
That's part of why I like to preface immediately following posts with "addendum." Makes it clear the order of posting as well as not increasing the indentation just to add to a previous statement on my part. Each has his/her own methods, though; I guess I just hope addenda will be a trademark. As to founding etc, well, um... um... your momma. (****, why'd I say that?) S. Mackie 02:01, 26 August 2007 (BST)
Yitscar has got 2 records that he would give. He doesn't expect much payment, but a help in facing the trails of trial would be nice--Solune 23:45, 25 August 2007 (BST)
Oh! Hmm. I'll do what I can. Sadly, I can't trade a mountain of Sods or Fire-Balls, and I'm short on scrolls for such. And Bling, don't have much bling, but I'll definitely see what I can contribute. Handy quest and all, absolutely necessary for the Wizard quest. Has Yitscar got spellbooks? S. Mackie 02:01, 26 August 2007 (BST)
Shaman alanda depostied a number of non-Zephyr elemental ball spells in the HToW store-room which might help. Also, if bling is your game, redsnare and adnala have been hunting Bling Wraiths recently, so, they can offset some of the costs for this good cause.
Solune: also know that alanda's spell inventory, while not great, is open to your ToT needs. Snare 02:59, 26 August 2007 (BST)
4 become element (+icecream) of each would avoid me the pain of writing them down, if you add a couple of elemental balls then we have a deal-- Yitscar 07:45, 27 August 2007 (BST)
Further trading shall continue afterward; for now, Yitscar is gathering mana and I've helped as I can. Our needs for this party are completed, and... you know, I'm just not even sure how to thank y'all. The party has been added to the schedule. S. Mackie 03:04, 30 August 2007 (BST)
Excellent. I shall stop randomly killing huge things trying to get records to drop then :) Syagrius 04:30, 30 August 2007 (BST)
Yikes. I hope that was profitable. S. Mackie 06:02, 30 August 2007 (BST)

I almost hit a cow, it was just standing it the middle of the road!

I'm running around OZ. Or should be. Travel is difficult. There are lots of normal lookin' monsters standing all over the roads down here. Is there some way to bump a monster from its position to another, or is this a bug?density 11:59, 22 August 2007 (BST)

There is indeed a bug report concerning this problem. But it might be a feature, say that the zoo got flooded and all kind of animals got out--Solune 12:17, 22 August 2007 (BST)
Sounds like it's time for a culling. I've just about cleared the way from Crimson City to Dragon Pass -- Thog 16:17, 22 August 2007 (BST)

Great Lord Andrew's quest: It's rigged!

Great Lord Andrew is offering a BNWT party Rig. It's complete with all its packaging and no records have been lost. To acquire this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, you need to give Andrew ten copies of 'You Spin Me Round (Like A Record)' -- We know it's a high price to pay, but what with parties getting rarer and rarer, can you possibly afford not to?

Promoting your own quest now, eh? Pssh --Bubba_the_Shy 01:09, 21 August 2007 (BST)
Well, someone has to :-) -- Great Lord Andrew
"BNWT"? Syagrius 22:49, 21 August 2007 (BST)
Brand new with tags (I hadn't heard this one before either) Hbookbinder
I have ten copies of YSMR. Where is GL Andrew, so I can claim my rig? -- Thog 19:59, 15 September 2007 (BST)


I just couldn't feed my baby because the site was down this morning (10am US Pacific Time.) Now Harvey's pissed, I'm in jail, and I lost the two days of baby feeding and food. This seem fair to you? (Billz8 and Timmy are here as well, they might've had the same problem.) Is there a way to get this reversed? It wasn't my fault I couldn't feed it. Harz 23:08, 17 August 2007 (BST)

It's one of the hazards of trying that quest. Other people have encountered the same problem in the past (fortunately, I wasn't one of them). --Greycat 13:40, 22 August 2007 (BST)

Wiki Spam 2: The Spamening

We're having another bad rash of bot spamming, they just keep making edits as fast as we can revert them.--Hamelin 05:21, 17 August 2007 (BST)

The names of the editors are all 6 characters long, are some flavor of hash of the page name, and are of the form [A-Z][a-z0-9][a-z0-9][A-Z][a-z0-9][a-z0-9]. Can we just filter those out? It's likely an automated script run across many wikis, so they (probably) won't adapt if we change it. PotatoEngineer 08:20, 17 August 2007 (BST)
Except that they did adapt last time we changed something. Darksatanic 17:03, 20 August 2007 (BST)
Can you add a captcha (Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart) to the registration process? Make someone pick out the Petunia among a set of pictures of all the Great Lords (+ one of a petunia)?Hbookbinder 17:46, 20 August 2007 (BST)
I'm strongly against Captchas. I find some of them almost impossible to do myself. Darksatanic 10:39, 21 August 2007 (BST)
Any chance we could have the simplecaptcha mentioned below? Random4518 18:13, 21 August 2007 (BST)
I'm not sure a "Pick the Petunia" would stop the bots. They might just pick a random one. It'd slow them down, but I think something like "Type the (easy to read) word in the pic of the petunia" would work better. Another option could be email verification. Kaos Dragon 20:35, 21 August 2007 (BST)
Or Palantir verification. Since you don't have one at the start it would mean you have to play the game a little until you get write access to the wiki.--Schwarz 20:45, 21 August 2007 (BST)
Actually, that's not really feasible, seeing as user names on the wiki and character names in the game aren't necessarily the same (see: those of us with alts, Cor/PotatoEngineer, etc) -- Thog 20:58, 21 August 2007 (BST)
You'd have to write new code for Palantir verification anyway, why not just add a field "Character Name"? Ooh, or instead of registering on the Wiki, you have to do some sort of in-game quest! It could be called the Turing Test (or some pun/typo therof). -Scrumbucket 14:45, 23 August 2007 (BST)
Right, here's a nice 'captcha' (I hate this "word"): During registration, a picture is generated with a string of symbols drawn into it (this is standard). But the string is actually some sipmle (obviously randomized) arithmetic question, result of which must be filled in the nearby verification box (or how you call it). --Bubba_the_Shy 20:12, 29 August 2007 (BST)

For or against another pentacle right now ?

I've got 5 acles ready, but people have expressed the need to take some time to adventure between wizard reunions, or to save acles for tougher times. Opinions?--Solune 19:42, 13 August 2007 (BST)

Against. I'd prefer to save them for a week when there's no party and/or once L3 Wizardry is opened up (potentially 72 mana/ day!). In a complete switch-a-roo of my own position, I'll be hosting a Pentacle for Antdos and Vashka's Wedding anniversary so there isn't actually too long a wait until the next one. alanda 20:51, 13 August 2007 (BST)
Update: New Pentacle started by Quannum but he didn't specify where. :-( alanda 22:32, 13 August 2007 (BST)
Charming. S. Mackie 05:16, 14 August 2007 (BST)
Second update: Found! alanda 15:12, 14 August 2007 (BST)
I agree, save them for weeks without party so at least the wizardry people have somewhere to gather. --Jpv 22:12, 13 August 2007 (BST)
Likely beating a dead horse, but save it for a week without a party or another pentacle. Right now as a Shaman I'd love to stay at a pentacle and soak up the mana, but I need the AP a party provides more. I think as supplies dry up due to decreased drop rates we'll have more and more weeks without parties. --Ade 20:57, 14 August 2007 (BST)
By the way, if you need AP to write books, I have some I don't need--Solune 21:37, 14 August 2007 (BST)

Diamonds are Forever

I just refreshed my Cities page, and instead of giving me an updated time until I'll have positive AP (I'm at the party right now, so my browser says twice as long as it should) I was instead taken to this[5], which, unless I'm mistaken, is Diamonds are Forever. Is Cities possibly about to get CD players to play the singles?

I certainly hope not, after looking at what CDs are available. Azuaron 00:59, 10 August 2007 (BST)

Other people at the party (Caelicoli and 000) have also mentioned this. Azuaron 02:33, 10 August 2007 (BST)
Mrrf. I've worked very hard to keep my AP positive despite a task which required an expenditure of 480 AP. What timing.
Granted, I could just do something to drop my AP into negatives again, but it would require a drastic change of mental gears, and I have no clutch. S. Mackie 04:23, 10 August 2007 (BST)
It happened to me when I logged in. Also, [6] has some other MP3s, all numbered. I didn't bother to try them. BortJr 07:34, 10 August 2007 (BST)
They're all CDs needed for the Shaman quest. Dancing Queen (04) is interesting... Stoo 17:55, 10 August 2007 (BST)
Appears to be: All the Things She Said, Dancing Queen, Diamonds are Forever, Lady Marmalade, and Y.M.C.A. (so far.) Azuaron 17:59, 10 August 2007 (BST)
The numbers correspond to the songs in alphabetical order, presumably the ID numbers of the CD single items in-game. "Dancing Queen," however, is actually KLF's "The Queen and I."--which is probably intentional, according to IRC (given that there are other KLF references in-game). --Dragon 18:26, 10 August 2007 (BST)
It works now. I just tried selecting lady marmalade in-game and after a few seconds was taken to the mp3 page of it. Nuru nuru 09:09, 12 August 2007 (JST)
If this is an intentional thing, is there any chance it can be made optional? It's a bit of a pain in low and/or limited bandwidth situations. -- Thog 19:35, 10 August 2007 (BST)
It seems to happen on random times, as I walk around. I have to agree that is *extremely* irritating. I would venture to say it is the single worse thing of Cities. There is nothing to do but to stop the loading and re-enter http://cities.totl.net/cgi-bin/game. It is bad enough if it happened when I selected the CD, but to happen at random times is not exactly user-friendly --Namorson 01:42, 12 August 2007 (BST)
It's caused by responses from the server coming with a header like "Refresh: 10;URL=http://cities.totl.net/mp3/18.mp3". I'll create a filter to disable it in a few minutes or so. Random4518 02:52, 12 August 2007 (BST)
It's now precluding gameplay. Please, do be quick. S. Mackie 03:07, 12 August 2007 (BST)
Filter's done. Random4518 03:16, 12 August 2007 (BST)
Okay, I'm a little lost. I've downloaded the program, I've pasted the text you gave into a Notepad and saved it as a .cfg, but I'm not sure where to put it. I dropped it in the main folder. Is that sufficient?
And what's this AdList thing? S. Mackie 03:36, 12 August 2007 (BST)
Addendum: Okay, I got it to load the .cfg file, which is a good sign. However, I don't know if I have to further enable it, and I've *no* idea how t load this in Firefox! 03:52, 12 August 2007 (BST)
You need to configure Firefox (or any browser) to connect to localhost:8080 as an HTTP proxy. See "Installation and Eradication (or how to get the blasted thing to work!)" in the Proxomitron help file. Random4518 04:06, 12 August 2007 (BST)
Yeah, figured out that much eventually. Dragon helped. That said, you haven't told me what the AdList thing is about; experimented, and now every time I try to load the game or the wiki, it says Connection Killed! in the title bar. I'm talking to you now through IE. I'm not happy. S. Mackie 04:14, 12 August 2007 (BST)
Addendum: *grumble* Okay, so my guess is, if you add it to the KillList under AdList because you don't know what you're doing, it'll do that. If this happens, remove it from the KillList (probably requiring you to get into the file through your admin account, which I don't log in through very bloody often.) Your ordeal isn't done, though, until you enter the URL into Firefox again... and, despite the Connection Killed! remaining, hit "reload" to kill the caching. S. Mackie 04:30, 12 August 2007 (BST)
AdList is a list of sites that get blocked by a filter in the default config file. You'd only want to add Cities to it if you had one config file you used for most sites and a seperate config file for Cities, and needed to switch to the Cities config file in order to view the site properly. (In retrospect, I should've written that page in a way that someone who wasn't already familiar with Proxomitron wouldn't be confused by it. -_-') Random4518 04:35, 12 August 2007 (BST)
I didn't relish the idea of downloading/installing a program I knew nothing about with no documentation for firefox. I added http://cities.totl.net/mp3/* to AdBlock for Firefox. Thought it was working, but no, I am still inundated with unwanted mp3s. Perhaps a greasemonkey script? --Namorson 03:56, 12 August 2007 (BST)
This might work, if it can filter out incoming headers. Random4518 04:40, 12 August 2007 (BST)
I created a greasemonkey script which seems to be doing the trick:
// ==UserScript==
// @name Cities Mp3 Blocker
// @description block those mp3s from playing
// @include http://cities.totl.net/mp3/*
// ==/UserScript==
window.location.href = 'http://cities.totl.net/cgi-bin/game';
Save this as cities_mp3_blocker.user.js than load the file and install the script. It redirects any mp3 page to the game page. --Namorson 04:51, 12 August 2007 (BST)
I've just removed the code that was doing it. Darksatanic 13:52, 12 August 2007 (BST)

Path to Goodyear Pimp Open

For those of you in Oz that haven't yet visited this stylin'... oh forget it. There's a path open. Starts at the base of the Mountain Trail. Save some AP. Bring 2 7-Irons and a Putter. That is all. -Scrumbucket 17:27, 6 August 2007 (BST)

Cool, now who do i get back down there from the morge while waiting for my body. --Person who had there body stolen (and its still missing) 00:20, 7 August 2007 (BST)
If you meant how, I can summon one or two people. I'm foraging at the base of the mountains right now but when I get enough flowers, I'm heading in. Also, I'm going to be travelling most of tomorrow and will have irregular access for a week. So get yer requests in fast! -Scrumbucket 03:22, 7 August 2007 (BST)
Not my fault i can't talk properly without my body. Which contains all my inventory. Except for my Extremely heave Guards Helmet.--Person who had there body stolen (and its still missing) 17:03, 7 August 2007 (BST)
May as well make sure you've got some 5-Irons too. Bah! -Scrumbucket 04:42, 7 August 2007 (BST)
  • I'd love a summon, and I'll happily summon other people when I'm there. -Harry - what is your ingame username- I tried Harry and it did not work :( Kressida - 08:32, 8 August 2007 (BST)
Right username. Maybe it was because I was in a Guild location. Please try again :) -Harry Summoned- to about 1/2 way along the path to the pimp (I had moved on already). Kressida 02:53, 9 August 2007 (BST)
  • Ooh! Ooh! Pick me! I'll extend the summon chain too. :-) In fact, I'll directly summon to the Pimp when I reach him. -Stelio 20:37, 7 August 2007 (BST)
  • I would love a summon to either the path or the pimp. I will duly summon someone after me. -Kressida04:06, 8 August 2007 (BST)
Summoned you to the end of the mountain trail. Kepler 06:34, 8 August 2007 (BST)
I have moved along the path to th pimp- still happy to summon anyone there.` Kressida 08:47, 8 August 2007 (BST)
  • (Waiting hopefully for whomever of Harry or Kressida has been summoned there to summon another of the three of us) -Stelio 08:23, 8 August 2007 (BST)Summoned-Kressida 08:32, 8 August 2007 (BST)
Woo! Thank you! I'll check back here to see if anyone else wants summoning whilst I'm still in Oz, and will post here to say when I've left. :-) -Stelio 08:10, 9 August 2007 (BST)
Glad that you all seem to have gotten there without me. If there's anyone who wants summoning to the Mountain Trail rather than the Pimp, I'm back and will sporadically check for requests while I'm foraging. -Scrumbucket 17:32, 8 August 2007 (BST)
I'd like a summon to the mountain trail, I need to do the blue flowers thing and grab some trophies. (Summon LimeHan)--Hamelin 18:34, 8 August 2007 (BST) Summon'd! Have fun. -Scrumbucket 02:56, 9 August 2007 (BST)
Thanks a bunch, I now know how to make antidote, and I got all the trophy monsters off the mountain path.--Hamelin 15:38, 9 August 2007 (BST)
I'd also like a summon to the mountain trail if available, I need to learn how to make antidote as well. Unstenk 18:11, 9 August 2007 (BST) Summoned into the jungle not too far from the mountain trail. -Stelio 22:49, 9 August 2007 (BST)
I'm a quarter of the way to the City, no longer able to summon, sorry! Maybe you could get a summon from Stelio before he leaves? -Scrumbucket 19:36, 9 August 2007 (BST)
I'd love a summon to anywhere in Oz. I'll make my way to the Pimp myself. Azuaron 00:58, 12 August 2007 (BST) -Summoned close to the Pimp, but behind some Thick Jungle. -Stelio 10:21, 12 August 2007 (BST)

I've left Oz now, so no more summons from me. :-) -Stelio 00:01, 14 August 2007 (BST)

Fete Bear

I was just out bashing random stuff around the place (as you do) and I noticed a "fete bear". It started out as a regular bear, then after I changed to my cruel blade the new title appeared. I attacked it in a rush of blood, but it was back to regular bear again shortly afterwards.

Anyone else seen one of these? -- Cthu1hu 13:07, 1 August 2007 (BST)

Unfortunately not. Have you tried attacking it with a pair of shoes while it is a fete bear? --Ade 13:17, 1 August 2007 (BST)
Yes, I've seen a few. I managed to kill one as well (in it's Fete state), nothing remarkable happened. It's probably just a name pun, albeit a nice one :) --Bubba_the_Shy 13:33, 1 August 2007 (BST)

New Stuff

New powerful alignment weapons, wands now break, more accurate types of wand and...

Something I hope you'll all find really exciting...

Elseware 01:40, 25 July 2007 (BST)

Checking a Shaman's Recipe Book reveals:
  • Make a Guild Locker from 8 Mana, 5000 Gold Pieces and 100 Bits of Iron.
  • Make a Relic from 4 Mana and 10 ERROR(Bones, file GAME/Item/Bones.pm doesn't exist)s.
  • Make a Guild Namer from 8 Mana, a Sheet of Paper and 5000 Gold Pieces.
I'd say the error there is a new bug. Random4518 02:00, 25 July 2007 (BST)
These also appear in a Duke's Recipe Book, and the cost to make a Guild Locker or a Guild Namer is 20 AP each. I made one of each to give them a try, and equiping either one just gives the item box that says "You are not in a guild." They both sort under junk. I'm hoping these are worthwhile/useful, or I just wasted 10K gold. Sir Garry 02:38, 25 July 2007 (BST)
Just went to the palace to become an Earl, and there is a "Guild Registry" 1S of the "Knights Registry" (since I have been only playing for 2 weeks I wasn't sure, so I checked the maps, and it's not on those yet. The coordinates are 11E 13N DSSGCM ). There you can buy "a Guild Permit" for 200.000 gold. I'm guessing you need that to create the guild, just like a mine or a stall, but I could be wrong :P--Che-T 08:17, 25 July 2007 (BST)
There's our latest cash sink. S. Mackie 08:47, 25 July 2007 (BST)
THere's also now a 'Guild Tunnel Kit' that uses 10000gp,50 stones and 50 wood. For some bizarre reason I thought I'd make one, and now I get a message saying I'm not a member of a guild. Platypus 09:52, 25 July 2007 (BST)
  • Make a Guild Trading Post Kit from 30000 Gold Pieces, 100 Pieces of Wood and 50 Stones (Master Armourer Recipie book)
  • Make a Guild Store Kit from 30000 Gold Pieces, 100 Pieces of Wood and 50 Stones (400AP)

There is now a guild, The Order of the Wyrm. The entrance is at 4E 98N. The kits described above create locations that gradually wear out, but serve their description (e.g. trading post). The Guild Namer renames a location; the Guild Locker makes a location private, meaning that only guild members can enter the square. Still no word on how other people join, but the Order of the Wyrm is recruiting, albeit unofficially at the moment. --Dragon 10:45, 25 July 2007 (BST)

PS. A few notes from elseware:

<elseware> there is currently no way to leave a guild
<elseware> so don't join lightly
<elseware> (when guilds are open for
<elseware>  members)
<elseware> guilds are designed so that there won't be too many

The Guild Temple location (Master Armourers can make a Guild Temple Kit from 50000 Gold Pieces, 10 Relics, 100 Pieces of Wood and 50 Stones, for 400AP) is where you initiate new members. But be aware: all members of the Guild must be present at the time! Vashka 20:18, 25 July 2007 (BST)

Is it just me, or is the best guild-strategy simply to make one large guild that encompasses every player in Cities, so everyone has access to all the new stuff and we don't have to worry about being a member of the wrong guild for the instant shops & TPs? PotatoEngineer 20:31, 25 July 2007 (BST)
No. Note the last sentence of Vashka's comment: all members of the Guild must be present when initiating a member! (Although personally I'd prefer a quorum approach of say three existing members to make a new member [obviously waived when the total membership is below three].) --BlaisedeC 20:44, 25 July 2007 (BST)
I think Elseware's intention is the opposite of PotatoEngineer's suggestion: he wants us to keep guilds reasonably small. Vashka 20:51, 25 July 2007 (BST)

Does anyone know what the Tunnel Kits are for? Is that just so your other rooms don't have to be adjacent, or is there some other purpose? Thog 21:47, 25 July 2007 (BST)

Since it overrides the terrain, it keeps the tunnels from caving in. I'm not sure why exactly you would need to do that, though. They are cheaper than the other locations, though, so if you take pride in the area of your guild hall.... --Dragon 05:31, 26 July 2007 (BST)
A Locker locks off an area to other guild areas only. Thus you'll need a cheap terrain type to surround the square with, that you want to lock off. Flt 17:16, 31 July 2007 (BST)

Hew... no super summon stone.--Qazxcv 05:43, 26 July 2007 (BST)

What's the word on the "New powerful alignment weapons, wands now break, more accurate types of wand and..." that the 'king mentioned?--Hamelin 16:55, 27 July 2007 (BST)

  • "New powerful alignment weapons" - I'm guessing this has to do with the "Enchant <alignment> Sword" spells that have started dropping
  • "wands now break" - self-explanatory. Wands didn't break before. I assume it's the "normal" 1% chance.
  • "more accurate types of wand" - see the "Compressed <alignment>" and "More Compressed <alignment>" spells. They can be used to enchant wands to +1 (and presumably higher).
  • "and..." - I assume this is a reference to guilds.
--Dragon 17:24, 27 July 2007 (BST)

A +1 wand dropped straight out of a monster's... er... pocket for me. --Greycat 02:13, 4 August 2007 (BST)

You slay the Water Dragon.
You gain an Earth Wand +1.
You gain a Dragon Blood.
You gain 100 Gold Pieces.

I got a Water Wand +1 from... something. So you can at least find the +1 ones.--Hamelin 04:07, 4 August 2007 (BST)

Vault Talismans caught by Inflation

The price for Vault Talismans is now 12k instead of 2k in a wizards tower. I don't see any other price change, but don't have the AP to check a general store Flt 08:40, 24 July 2007 (BST)

I blame POTATO ENGINEER and his cash sinks!
You can still get to the vaults via R1'yeh, if you'd rather spend AP instead of gold. - Isambard 16:40, 24 July 2007 (BST)
Raising prices of an item by 500% doesn't constitute a cash sink. All it means is people will visit the vaults less and stop buying vault talismans. - Isambard 16:43, 24 July 2007 (BST)
Do you suppose the drop rate's been nerfed, too? S. Mackie 18:16, 24 July 2007 (BST)

Cattle Market

At 89E 99N right near water city there is a new space, the Cattle Market, no clue what to do with it though. (If this isn't new sorry, but it wasn't in the terrain page.) king1216 05:32, 17 July 2007 (BST)

It's a new micro-quest. -- Thog 05:58, 17 July 2007 (BST)

Wizard Quest Betting Pool

Place yer bets! Place yer bets! When will the first Level 3 Wizard emerge from the new quest, whose details are unknown?

Rules: Bet on only one date. Standard wager is 5000 gold. Smaller wagers are permitted; in this case, the take will be proportional to the amount bet on a date. I'll volunteer my alt, Tyken, to hold the bets if desired, but making Tyken hold the gold is not a requirement.

I'll put 5k on the 23rd. Kaos Dragon 02:11, 14 July 2007 (BST)
5k for the 22nd. PotatoEngineer 02:15, 14 July 2007 (BST)
5k for... the 20th Zoological 10:49, 14 July 2007 (BST)
5k for the 25th --Solune 11:28, 14 July 2007 (BST)
5K on 2nd August MrFoo 11:37, 14 July 2007 (BST)
5K on today Schnorrer 16:43, 14 July 2007 Hey! I didn't put a date on this! And anyway, today is the 15th July where I am. Schnorrer
5K for 10 August (remember how long it took for the first Shaman) -- Thog 03:59, 16 July 2007 (BST)
  • Is the quest actually functional yet? Last I heard, people were killing test monsters. -Scrumbucket 11:42, 14 July 2007 (BST)
  • It was more that the monsters which could be easily found were the test ones.. the real ones are around, but well hidden it seems. MrFoo 11:45, 14 July 2007 (BST)

Actually, I'm going to change my vote to "never, unless the rules change". All of the Huge Reptiles are in places that aren't tarotable, which means you'd have to wander all over the map (tunnels, astral plain, etc) looking for the one or two that *do* exist. I'd expect that most mages aren't bothering because it's such a huge PITA right now and the barriers to starting the quest are so high. -- Thog 16:48, 23 July 2007 (BST)

They're actually not that hard to find, if you put a bit of thought and some planning into it. Time warps help. It would be interesting to see the kill stats for Huge Reptiles, but they don't seem to be on the Monster Kills page. I suspect people who're finding them are keeping it quiet. As I'd quite like to be the first non-test Wizard, I'm not going to give too many hints, but I will say that a copy of Dissolution in a Spell Book, combined with lots of Abba is essential. I'm also mostly hunting them blitzed of my tits on Es, as I have little patience and a high AP regen time, thanks to bad dragon blood in my youth. Also, Shamans might want to keep casting vitality or wellbeing spells when hunting, as they do hit quite hard and I don't think they ever miss. My 4K+HP has definitely helped, but it's now been cut by at least half. Dragon Stoning that much health would have made things excruciatingly slow. 10X 13:10, 2 August 2007 (BST)
You mean this page [7] doesn't exist? Looks like jpv's going to beat you to it I'm afraid. MrFoo 13:54, 2 August 2007 (BST)
Hang on - I've killed more than... oh, wait... halved on the first of the month. Indeed it does look like he's going to beat me. Although I have a feeling there may be three or four of us sitting at Dr. Em's, waiting for the code to be finished, at this rate. In any case, it does prove that it's do-able.10X 17:12, 2 August 2007 (BST)
Wouldn't suppose you'd be willing to provide any more hints on WHERE to find the buggers (once you have enough Stories, obviously), would you? -- Thog 17:22, 2 August 2007 (BST)
You could try looking where no man has looked before.

Bridge to Oz

Connnorsese, a chap with more of a life than me, decided he needed to do something frivolous with all his accumulated AP so has, or so he claims, built a bridge to Oz which starts at cigar island. Just thought you might like to know - more details on the Oz page. Platypus 20:35, 11 July 2007 (BST)

OOF! This thing is going to need some maintenance eventually. I'll have to collect wood for the purpose... S. Mackie 20:47, 11 July 2007 (BST)
Addendum: Cigar Island is south of Bentnob.
I dub it "Connnorsese's Bridge to Nowhere." Great job sir!--Hamelin 01:43, 12 July 2007 (BST)

The Mystery of teh Appearing Goose

So, Ive been away for a few days, and I left myself standing at a Trading Post. During this time, someone gave me a goose (By Mistake??)...I didnt notice it and my history has been cleared. If this goose is yours (Downy 27 weeks old), please claim it, and thank your lucky stars I got internet access for an hour, and happened to notice it in my inventory, because it was near death when I fed it... Spacer one 18:07, 8 July 2007 (BST)

I have the sneaking suspicion that it was no mistake. Aside from their (rare) production of Eggs, geese are pretty worthless unless you're part of the I will hold him and squeeze him and call him George pet-loving crowd. PotatoEngineer 02:14, 10 July 2007 (BST)
Which, I suppose, is the only real explanation for why I still keep my goldfish. Or maybe I just like being able to deal an extra point of damage at the cost of ~7 AP per day. Geese are nasty; they oughta deal more damage in a fantasy setting. S. Mackie 02:22, 10 July 2007 (BST)
I must confess - 'twas I. I didn't want to keep feeding Downy but didn't want him to die, so I fed him to max and then 'Goosed' Spacer One. I was going to do the goose-in-a-bag game, put in some wheat and a note saying 'feed and then find an unsuspecting target to 'Goose'. Doesn't work if they loose their history though. Phw 04:50, 10 July 2007 (BST)

I'm incredibly sorry, but Downy starved to death shortly after I logged in today. Oddly enough I'm still gaining poop from the little lass. Gah, please forgive me! -- A very contrite Verckel 02:15 19 July 2007

I suspect that, if one were to resurrect said goose, it would start to take on the qualities we know real geese have. That being that all geese are frickin' evil. S. Mackie 03:38, 18 July 2007 (BST)
This could be a solution. --Bubba_the_Shy 22:34, 23 July 2007 (BST)

No party next week? How about a Pentacle?

It looks like there won't be a party next week unless someone comes out of the blue with a spare rig so I'm thinking about laying down a Pentacle. Anyone have any suggestions or preference on where I place it? Snare 20:53, 5 July 2007 (BST)

Actually, I was thinking about coming out of the blue with a spare rig if nobody else stepped in. Would people prefer a Party or a Pentacle? Ravensdance 01:10, 6 July 2007 (BST)
Well, I think most people would prefer a party since the benefit extends to all character classes. Heck, I'd probably even prefer a party at this point but I have the extra pentacle in case there's a strong demand for it. Snare 20:28, 6 July 2007 (BST)
Well, in the absence of any other replies for a while, I'm going to go ahead with a fill-in party. The Travelling Circus will come to Immemorial Park in Earth City once the current party finishes. Ravensdance 14:41, 8 July 2007 (BST)
If this is the case, Markous might do a pet revival for people who need it. Does anyone need to have pets revived?
How about putting the Pentacle right next to the party? It'll let mages enjoy a party and mana regen at the same time and it'll give everyone a trading post no matter where it is. Kaos Dragon 20:33, 6 July 2007 (BST)
No. Record drops have reached record lows; we can't afford to lose efficacy by doubling up anymore. S. Mackie 21:42, 6 July 2007 (BST)
I see no harm in doing both. If you can't be extravagant in an RPG, then what's the world come to? Nuru nuru 15:16, 7 July 2007 (JST)
Seems unfair to make a wizard choose one week, and have to go dry the next, when you could give them the benefit of both by spacing them out more. S. Mackie 02:05, 10 July 2007 (BST)

Lady Caroline's Turrets

I found this at the Festival 85E 64N DSSGCM. Our king was building it by himself, not having found anyone to help him.--Solune 21:29, 30 June 2007 (BST)

Lady Caroline's Turrets
Caroline and Elseware were at the real Festival recently. She brought a Lady Caroline-ish tent. --Dragon 08:31, 1 July 2007 (BST)

Possible use for the Golden Fiddle?

So I just noticed the 6E 66N is now labeled "Crossroads". I'm only a fairly talented musician, so nothing happened when I practiced there Anyone who rocks care to try playing an instrument (or perhaps the golden fiddle) there and see what happens? -- Thog 16:37, 29 June 2007 (BST)

No use for the Golden Fiddle there. And playing my normal fiddle didn't do anything as well. Oh, and I rock. rockefellow
Try going there at midnight and seeing who appears.
Fingers crossed for Blazin' Squad. Biffo 23:35, 29 June 2007 (BST)
At midnight it becomes a "diabolical crossroads"
Diabolical Crossroads:
There's a small devil here sitting on a hickory stump, humming a sinister tune. However, it 
disappears in a puff of orange smoke when you approach.

Playing a fiddle gets him to speak up.

There's a small devil here, jumping up and down in a furious rage.

"Curse you and all musicians! I've had enough of the lot of you, always beating me at contests! I 
haven't brought back a soul in weeks, and it's costing me a fortune in solid gold instruments. The 
boss makes me pay for them if I lose, and I'm not made of money; besides, those things are so 
awkward to tune. It's not fair!" 
You have to play a fiddle, of course! Then he whines about how he's losing golden fiddles left and right, and it costs a pretty penny. You can then give him a solid gold fiddle, and.... um.... he says thanks. That's about it. Either you need to give him more fiddles, it's a little buggy, or we're missing something. PotatoEngineer 00:08, 30 June 2007 (BST)
You lose a Solid Gold Fiddle.
"O frabjous day! I'm ever so grateful, the boss gets terribly angry when I lose one of these."
The devil grins and starts playing, with fire flying from its fingertips. After a few moments you 
pick up the tune and join in.
"You haven't got a spare Soul, by any chance? Hmm, suppose it wouldn't be fair after what you've 
done for me."
AHA! Now I can soothe angered beasts with my music! Looks like this is the "You missed Open Mic night? try again" quest. PotatoEngineer 00:31, 30 June 2007 (BST)
Questified! --Dragon 08:30, 30 June 2007 (BST)

On the other hand, if you're an incompetent musician, you get this:

There's a small devil here, laughing maniacally.
"Wonderful, it's great to hear such a mediocre musician! If that's the best you can do, maybe things
are looking up for me after all!"

50,025 bits of gold plus 5 pcs of enchanted charcoal, along with a ton of AP to practice your music just to be able to "soothe angered beasts"? Wouldn't it be a whole lot cheaper and simpler to use cloak of invisibility, alignment wands, etc etc?

Cloak of invisibility costs more AP and doesn't work on all monsters. The One Bling costs HP, and again doesn't work on all monsters. Alignment wands work on most (but not all) monsters, but if you miss the monster can hit you back. And besides, it's a quest, therefore it must be completed.  :) (Seriously, though, this ability is quite handy when facing off against, say, Adolescent Tortoises.) --Dragon 17:53, 30 June 2007 (BST)
Also, does anyone know if this gives the other rewards as well? Being able to cut sailing costs by 5 AP is a HUGE benefit... -- Thog 19:24, 30 June 2007 (BST)
Well, I can confirm that I don't have the 2nd Open Mic reward (rocking out in various keys to cadge cash from monsters), and I started with no Open Mic rewards at all before I started this. I do, however, speculate wildly that further golden fiddles will yield further Open Mic rewards. PotatoEngineer 06:29, 1 July 2007 (BST)
Confirmed! A second golden fiddle on another day yields a second Open Mic Night reward! I'll try this again over the next few days and see if I can get more rewards, and also see what happens when you give him a fiddle when you're already fully-rewarded. PotatoEngineer 02:44, 9 July 2007 (BST)

Emergency pet sitting needed!

I forgot about my 2 week long trip to my grandparents and now need emergengy winged horsie pet sitting WITHIN THE DAY, please help. king1216 01:22, 29 June 2007 (BST)

I am on holiday island and can sit the pet if you pay for food (can be when you get back...) Phw 02:16, 29 June 2007 (BST) (as aeroman) Leave a message on my wiki page regarding delivery.

Eh, forget what used to be here, there turns out to be a bridge to the island. king1216 09:42, 29 June 2007 (BST)

Slime Hunt

I have decided to celebrate my recent birthday by doing my favorite quest once again--more heart and liver for all you cannibalistic types out there. Happy hunting! -Scrumbucket 00:10, 29 June 2007 (BST)

Happy Birthday Schnorrer 13:44, 30 June 2007 (BST)
Anyone hunting? There's a hint to its location somewhere on the wiki... -Scrumbucket 03:05, 1 July 2007 (BST)
The slimes are dead! Livers are mighty, mighty tasty. BLEH! Who am I kidding!? For the curious, they were in the Catacombs, on the third row down, just above the Pool of the Mountain King. (edited because apparently, I can't navigate.) PotatoEngineer 02:27, 3 July 2007 (BST)

I'm trapped!

Lalumi used a Time Warp to try to clear the cave ins, and this is what happened...
--BlaisedeC 05:35, 28 June 2007 (BST)

Ooooo look! I'm being name-checked John Lydon AKA Schnorrer 17:50, 28 June 2007 (BST)

Death of a Neutral Player

I realigned a test character with a Mint Julep to make him neutral, then killed him. The following happened:

You have died. Luckily the 'King set up a National Health Service which covers such things. You awake feeling dazed and weak, at the Villa.

Disappointingly, he ended up at 0E 0N DSSGCM rather than the Neutral City I was hoping for. The "Villa" was the actually the tile he died on, at Holiday Island (this is presumably a bug). - Isambard 04:02, 26 June 2007 (BST)

don't suppose you tested whether any insurance you had before going neutral still carried over? Spugmeistress 13:35, 28 June 2007 (BST)
The character had no insurance. Insurance is cancelled when you change alignment anyway, as far as I know. - Isambard 18:36, 28 June 2007 (BST)
I'll check next time I visit my shrine, but I'm pretty sure insurance carries over after alignment changes. -Scrumbucket 19:24, 28 June 2007 (BST)
Insurance does carry over when your alignment changes (thankfully). Azuaron 17:13, 29 June 2007 (BST)

New creature discovered?

Whilst wandering around the inner region I encountered a Cat (just a plain old cat) It's alignment was neutral. When I attacked it it became a Scairdy Cat (or maybe it was a Fraidy Cat - can't remember) and moved 1 space. In that state it was unencounterable. After a short time however it would return to being a Cat again. I tried all the obvious ways to deal with it, I tried feeding it milk (goat,cow and sheep), cream, fish, even tried giving it strings, because we all know cats love strings. I'm at a loss. Any ideas? --Gretchin 13:01, 22 June 2007 (BST)

You say your Goldfish damaged it. I don't suppose you have a Dogbot or a Dung Beetle or somesuch? Random4518 13:44, 22 June 2007 (BST)
Discussion concluded on Requests_for_Information#Cat. Gonzometro 17:03, 22 June 2007 (BST)

Congratz to the winner of the insta-duke contest.

congratz King1216 you won the duke making contest! Doc S 08:08, 21 June 2007 (BST)

(yes i know it's early but i dont intent to be online on my birthday when i could be out getting smasshed)

YAY! Thank you Doc S. king1216 19:25, 21 June 2007 (BST)


I hear several or more Cities players are off to not so sunny Glasto in the next few days. Well so am I. Would anyone be interested some sort of Cities meet up/drink?

Elseware 23:34, 11 July 2007 (BST): Nice idea but I didn't see this in time.

Wiki spam

Does anyone have any major objections to blocking unregistered users from editing the wiki? It would raise the bar for spammers, and would handle our current spam problem with much less admin intervention than currently. (I don't know about everyone else, but I'm getting tired of rolling stuff back and blocking IP addresses). Darksatanic 11:01, 15 June 2007 (BST)

I'm all for it! Further on the plus side, it would also mean fewer IP-address-signatures from known users who were too lazy to sign in. PotatoEngineer 11:18, 15 June 2007 (BST)
agreed Spugmeistress 13:12, 15 June 2007 (BST)
Ironically enough, I just got vandalized by a spambot who created a login. It should keep the spam down to a dull roar, at least.... PotatoEngineer 17:02, 15 June 2007 (BST)
No objections at all. -Jon 11:47, 15 June 2007 (BST)
Do it Flt 12:26, 15 June 2007 (BST)
Go for it. -- Thog 12:35, 15 June 2007 (BST)
It'll help, and make me have to log in more often. I'm for it. - Cameron
Do it! Spam sucks Eusebia 13:39, 15 June 2007 (BST)
Yay! Havelock2 14:12, 15 June 2007 (BST)
Sure! --Bubba_the_Shy 14:33, 15 June 2007 (BST)
Seconded! 15:39, 15 June 2007 (BST)
Errr... right. :) Darksatanic 15:40, 15 June 2007 (BST)
Good idea. -⅔ 16:52, 15 June 2007 (BST)
Please do! -Scrumbucket 17:34, 15 June 2007 (BST)
It would be a wiki in name only... which seems just fine to me. Lock it. S. Mackie 18:03, 15 June 2007 (BST)
well i'm okay with it except in the fact i have too many log ins to do right now to remeber so i'd have to force my lovie to do all the edits i'd need doc S
Check the 'remember me' or 'remember login' box next time you log in, and make sure your browser accepts cookies from wiki.cities.totl.net. Of course this only works if you always use the same computer(s)... Hope that's helpful. -Scrumbucket 21:17, 15 June 2007 (BST)
If she did that, then my browser would always be logged in as Sheyona. Awkward. As is, even mine isn't always logged in as me. Conversely, if I did click "remember me," or tell Firefox to remember my login, she'd always be editing in my name. Basically, we need to fix her power supply and be done with it. :) S. Mackie 04:08, 16 June 2007 (BST)
Am I missing something? I think all we're talking about is that you can't edit it without logging in first. Once logged in, anyone can edit (most) anything, just like most wikis. -- Thog 19:08, 15 June 2007 (BST)
I think Macksting is saying that if it isn't "the free <information depository> that anyone can edit," it isn't "really a wiki." While this is the sort of marketing that Wikimedia is pushing (they love the "information should be free" slogan), there are plenty of reasons to close or semi-close a wiki. (Spam prevention being top of the list, really.) Considering that 99.9% of the time, we're trying to associate our posts with our characters/alt mobs/hunam beings, it's plenty reasonable to require a login to edit. PotatoEngineer 01:12, 16 June 2007 (BST)
Listen to Potatomoto. He's one smart tuber. Has his eye on me. S. Mackie 04:08, 16 June 2007 (BST)
Do it right now. I dare you. Schnorrer 21:44, 16 June 2007 (BST)
Sadly, it needs admin rights to do it. I've put in the request for it to be done, though. Darksatanic 11:41, 17 June 2007 (BST)

In the meantime (and beyond, for the spambots that actually register), could people please follow this procedure for reverting changes (not counting the wiki admins, who have a handy "revert" link):

  1. Look at the page history.
  2. Click on the date of the last good version. This will bring you to the version as of that date.
  3. Click "edit." You will get a warning about editing an out-of-date page.
  4. Don't edit the page itself, just put an appropriate comment in the change summary. Click "Save."

Sometimes spammers delete content in addition to posting their garbage. I've seen several occasions when people have either simply deleted the spam manually, or copy-and-pasted content from the old page but missed some of it, leaving a page with missing content. Reverting to the earlier version is the easiest way to make sure to get it right. --Dragon 18:27, 17 June 2007 (BST)

personally i prefer hunting down the spammer by ip address, beheading them and posting videos of the act on the internet, but this idea is ok for now. JIHAD ON ALL SPAMMERS!!! 08:46, 23 June 2007 (BST)
  • Just blocked a load of IPs today - if you revert to a previous edit feel free to wikimail me and I'll block them en masse or create a page of spammers to be blocked and wiki admins can clear them down. Havelock2 12:27, 23 June 2007 (BST)

So I noticed that now that you need to be logged in to edit the wiki, the spambots are creating garbage accounts. Would it be possible to add captcha verification (using something like the reCaptcha plugin on user creation? That ought to lock things down pretty firmly (at the cost of being a bit more of a pain for live users) -- Thog 17:39, 5 July 2007 (BST)

I'm against captchas, because I find the effective ones are more or less impossible to read. Something that blocks IP addresses based on results from DNSBLs was the most effective solution that I've found so far. If you know of a good system that can do that (plus whitelists) for MediaWiki (1.4), then that would be good. A simple guide on installing it would be even better. :) Darksatanic 17:47, 5 July 2007 (BST)
the comics.org.nz wiki uses a simplecaptcha - it's simple but does the job. And since it's maths based and plain text, there's no problem reading it. Problems only arise if you don't know what 1+2 equals.Schnorrer 19:50, 6 July 2007 (BST)

8 days till the end of the duke making contest

any never duke who wants to enter please put your name on my comments page here-> User_talk:Sheyona good luck to all who enter. The Benevolent Doc S

PolyChromatic Dragon

For some reason, a PolyChromatic Dragon is at the stocks immediately south of Fire City. It's health is currently 1000(Blue)/1000(Yellow)/1000(Green). I take it this means that Fire players have had a bash at it and wiped out the 1000(Red).

UPDATE - Seems to be gone now Biffo 12:06, 14 June 2007 (BST)
The PCD was there to hold Sir Mr Frosty in the stocks due to his affinity for flinging poop at every single person at the party. However, he escaped... Snare 16:53, 13 June 2007 (BST)

Bowling alley

there are two harpies on the thirteenth floor of the mall... quick! get them while you can!Zoological 08:52, 12 June 2007 (BST)

Get summoned to Alternate Ocean, today only

From 6 PM June 09 till 6 PM June 10, there is be a possibility to get summoned to the alternate ocean. Just add your (ingame) name below.
Thanks goes to Shaman Elan for making this happen... thanks :)
--Bubba_the_Shy 18:30, 9 June 2007 (BST)

  • Mowg would like to be summoned, please! 7 PM BST, June 9th Summoned--Bubba_the_Shy
  • What a terribly kind offer, dear sir. Is there any recompense that I may provide for the service? And naturally I assume that this will be a summoning chain where once summoned, one then summons the person below oneself in the list. -Stelio 20:58, 9 June 2007 (BST) (PS: Anyone for a free Golem while I'm at it?) Summoned--Bubba_the_Shy
  • density would love a good summon. June, 9th Sumoned--Stelio

Oh no, The Magical Display has only lasted for 6 hours (I thought it was 24)!! I've only been able to summon Mowg since his request came somewhat earlier... Sorry everyone. --Bubba_the_Shy 00:52, 10 June 2007 (BST)

Good news, by an anonymous tip (thanks Jmb) I've stumbled upon a (rickety) bridge and have been able to summon Stelio as well. This was my last Summon Stone thou, so you'll have to chain summon each other. On another note, bridge building in the Alternate Ocean has been nerfed it seems. --Bubba_the_Shy 09:35, 10 June 2007 (BST)
density has now also been summoned, and that's us done by the current list. :-) Thank you very much indeed for your kind efforts. -Stelio 22:23, 10 June 2007 (BST)
Can Stien get a summon as well?
Any rickety Bridge is probably collapsed by now...

Clickr Loves You Too

Hello everybody! Do you have photos to share with cherished loved ones, noble friends and insufferable colleagues? If so, come and play at http://wiki.cities.totl.net/w/Category:Clickr (We retain the right to refuse immoderate images) Schnorrer 11:54, 7 June 2007 (BST)

Geek Week - the next party

hi, the next party is mine, and since I was going to hold it in Oz, there have been 2 parties just held there. Please help me decide where to have the next party by leaving a vote below, and the most popular place will win, thanks 7of9

I would definitely appreciate a 3rd party in Oz, in fact I was relying on it. --Bubba_the_Shy 11:48, 2 June 2007 (BST)
Conversely, I'd be glad to be away from Oz, preferably near a major city in the 'Kingdom so it's easy to return to the party after venturing out. Ravensdance 13:14, 2 June 2007 (BST)
I'm pretty Ozzed out too. I've done everything I need to do down here - got all the Oz monsters for my Cabinet, finished the totems, got photos of both celebrities. Somewhere else would be my choice. Greycat 13:40, 2 June 2007 (BST)
I'd also rather party in or around the 'kingdom - especially since the just opened Master Armourer Quest seems to happen mainly there. Why not have another party in the interior, perhaps again close to the South-Eastern Tunnel Entrance. I remember the last party there being a huge success. Rockefellow
I think an interior party would be fun as well. We haven't had one of those in a while. Of course, major 'Kingdom cities are always nice too, since they are easily accessible. --JAD 14:28, 2 June 2007 (BST)
Count my vote for something accessible, in the northern hemisphere (near a city or in the interior). -- Sertularian 15:09, 2 June 2007 (BST)
And I'll throw in a vote for Oz (as originally planned). Don't think I'll finish up everything I need to do in Oz even with another party, but it'll sure help! -Scrumbucket 15:21, 2 June 2007 (BST)
Screw Oz! There's not that much to do down there and it's mostly annoying to be there when you're done. I'm voting for a 'kingdom party. Kaos Dragon 17:37, 2 June 2007 (BST)
I'm done in oz too so my vote is for a city in the 'Kingdom. Theendisnigh 19:23, 2 June 2007 (BST)
I vote for the interior. king1216 19:32, 2 June 2007 (BST)
I'd vote for the same location as the last interior one (in the interior, next to a Standing Stone, a SE tunnel entrance, and an Empty Lot -- Thog 04:01, 3 June 2007 (BST)
And I take it you're not interested in the offer of being the first to have a bonafide performance artist? Schnorrer 19:01, 4 June 2007 (BST)
Actually if the performance is good, I would pay for it. How much do you ask?(I'm prepared to give you my complete collection of palantirs)--Solune 20:57, 4 June 2007 (BST)
I'm really cheap - palantirs are good, as are sheets of paper for my publishing enterprise, but for my performance career disguise kits, wands of illusion or anything I can throw are pretty useful. Also, I'm a bit puny, so a summons is essential. Schnorrer 22:23, 4 June 2007 (BST)

thanks for input about the next party. I have decided to host it in the interior now and it will be held at coordinates 29E 32N which is next to Standing Stone XVI, a Trading Post and an entrance to the SW Tunnels. I knew when I posted this that not everyone would be in agreement, so I'm sorry to those who are disappointed about the change of plan. I will summon anyone who wishes to attend, so leave a message on the Party Page when GEEK WEEK starts, thanks 7of9

This party has started. Greycat 22:22, 4 June 2007 (BST)

The Golden Condor

Attention interested aventurers: the Golden Condor is now located in the Mysterious City of Gold and Lead, and will be there until.... someone with AP figures out how to get it out. So... come join our merry and stoic bunch of riders! And get us out of here. Please. I guess I'll also be helping those folk interested in getting produce from here as well. :) Hurrah! Corelllis -- 03:10, June 01 2007 (GMT)

The Golden Condor is now one square south of the start of the Mountain Trail. Random4518 04:21, 1 June 2007 (BST)
Good job! Now... how do we get out of the jungle? Everything's thick and overgrown.
Just go one square at a time; it is still quicker than on foot! Going East is faster route out, as there are watery areas you can move through quickly.
Yes, just to clarify, only go one square at a time where necessary. If also necessary, step out for a moment and check coordinates. S. Mackie 17:12, 1 June 2007 (BST)

Good new everyone! The condor is now at 49E 52N... which is sort of in limbo. ... What... exactly happened? Corellis 07:52, 2 June 2007 (GMT)

My bad. I accidentally broke space/time in a desperate attempt to force existance to allow me to summon you. ...Any chance you could come to the nearby Pentacle, so we can finally trade, and you can get your Top Hat back? Random4518 07:55, 2 June 2007 (BST)
So what's it like in there? I saw some weird terrain from the observation deck.
A lot of "TEMPLE" tiles and a few "Common" tiles, both of which have the look of Plains tiles. There's a Whale directly south of me that doesn't have its own tile. I'm also apparently near the Hunting Lodge for some reason. GL Harvey is here at the Pentacle. Random4518 08:49, 2 June 2007 (BST)
Could you please explain exactly what it is you did? We'd love to know. Darksatanic 10:36, 2 June 2007 (BST)
Only too happy to try to make amends for the whole thing. I cast Magic Display while inside the Golden Condor. Immediately after I cast it, we were standing on a fireworks display surrounded by black, empty tiles. There were no controls or anything. I said something, and there we were inside the Golden Condor at the exact center of the 'kingdom. Random4518 10:44, 2 June 2007 (BST)

R'1yeh Blocked by Bridge

I am in my boat at 29E 144S. Someone has built a Bridge, and thusly blocked the way to R'1yeh. Is there anyway to destroy a bridge or shorten the life of it in anyway?? Spacer one 00:37, 1 June 2007 (BST)

Time Warps would work, though it would take several. PotatoEngineer 02:35, 1 June 2007 (BST)
That was my bad. I was trying to make access to R'1yeh via a portal easier. Bridges apparently don't traverse space-time like boats do. I've got 2 spare timewarps, but that still leaves 10 days to go. Gonzometro 03:41, 1 June 2007 (BST)
Can you use Daedalus Wings or Winged Boots? Flt 10:01, 1 June 2007 (BST)
If someone summons me to it, I can generate enough Time Warps to bring down the bridge (presuming Time Warps WILL bring it down) -- Elan 12:22, 1 June 2007 (BST)
Perhaps we should organize a summoning chain first. Seems like a good spot to enchant a Talisman. --Bubba_the_Shy 13:03, 1 June 2007 (BST)
Summon chain yes, but be aware that the talisman won't work once the square goes back to being "normal" (or, rather, back to being not-normal). I recommend enchanting a talisman in the normal ocean one square away. --Dragon 17:49, 1 June 2007 (BST)

Well, I am still there, but I only have 1 cracked summon stone...I will build AP and summon Elan tonight :) Spacer one 13:17, 1 June 2007 (BST)

I'm camped out at the New Trading Post in Air City until then. If anyone wants to donate a Rend Fabric of Space and/or Magic Display spell for the cause, I'll see if I can create a portal to the Black Beach -- Elan 13:25, 1 June 2007 (BST)

The Bridge is down! (I knew there was a good reason to put Void Calling in a spellbook). I've made it to the black beach, but any portal will have to wait until later tonight - I want to regenerate some AP, and I want to let Spacer One enter in case the Magic Display blocks his path. -- Elan 17:37, 1 June 2007 (BST)

Okay, slight setback. I forgot I had a Baby Badger in my care, and Harvey threw me in jail before I could enchant a talisman. If someone wants to summon me down there, I'll see about creating that portal. If not, I'll work my way down, but it may take a few days (since it'll be about 500 AP to go there via speedboat) -- Elan 23:31, 1 June 2007 (BST)
Well, there's a portal...somewhere from Immemorial Park in Earth City. It could be the Black Beach, but it could be the Alternate Ocean (I forgot to label my talismans before it was too late). If someone wants to jump through it and let us know, that would be good. If not, I'll give it a looksee in about 12 hours or so when I have AP again -- Elan 12:38, 4 June 2007 (BST)
The portal leads to the Alternate Ocean. Snare 14:48, 4 June 2007 (BST)

http://wiki.cities.totl.net/w/Current_events/R1yeh_Summons --Bubba_the_Shy 23:05, 1 June 2007 (BST)

Crap. Once I get the AP (and a new spell and Tarot Deck) I'll try again. Until then, er Free Shrimp! -- Elan 15:54, 4 June 2007 (BST)
Three days late, but the portal to the Black Beach is now open. Head to the Earth Shrine and it should be fairly obvious to see... -- Elan 00:07, 8 June 2007 (BST)

My Poor Pets!

I recently took a 2 and a half day train ride across the country. Just before that, I had died in Cities. The combination of these two events has killed two of my pets! My 21 week old Goldfish (Raistlin) and my 8 week old Kat (Anna) (who just became a Kat) are currently dead. Since the Miracle Pill has never been tested, I would love to try it on my pets, especially poor Anna who never got to experience Katness to its fullest. If you are willing to help, post on my talk page.

Azuaron 18:54, 27 May 2007 (BST)
Yeah, I just had this happen to me, except it was only with a 7 week old goldfish (robbing me of a Pet Licence the day before I would have bought one). I would also love to test the Miracle Pill. Sir Garry 20:50, 27 May 2007 (BST)
I'd help if I could, but I haven't had any luck finding a Frankenwiener Spell. I would, however, be willing to donate a Strike or two to the cause. Random4518 09:28, 28 May 2007 (BST)
I have a couple of Frankenwiener spells. Just PAYG either Corellis or Herakkis, and I should be able to help out this cause. ;) Corellis 02:20, 29 May 2007 (GMT)
Organize at Jon's party (Hair of the Dogbot) in Oz? I'm already there, and could summon others as needed. Azuaron 18:08, 29 May 2007 (BST)
I'm already there as well. After my trade with Corellis is done, I'll transcribe the spell and prepare two Miracle Pills as fast as possible; one for your Kat, one for Sir Garry's Goldfish. Random4518 19:38, 29 May 2007 (BST)
I sure hope these work better than they did in the book!!! Mackie the All Self-Important 02:53, 30 May 2007 (BST)
Thanks, Random4518! I'm currently on a Long Retreat, so if you do get the pill, feel free to summon me to a random trading post (hopefully in Oz) and just give it to me, and then I'll find a way to pay you back later. Thanks! - Sir Garry (who's not currently signed in and actually out of town)
Um... A while ago, I heard someone at a party say that Miracle Pills are untradeable. I don't mind who records the data, as long as exact before & after states of pet data from info.xml are kept and checked, and I'd personally love to be able to just summon you both to a nearby Trading Post and give you the pills, but it might not be possible... Random4518 17:56, 30 May 2007 (BST)
Well, there is the other solution: can we trade pets back and forth? I believe the answer to that is yes. In which case, you can tell me when you're ready and I'll hand you my Kat. Azuaron 19:26, 30 May 2007 (BST)
The only question is whether or not dead pets can be traded; I know for DAMSURE you can trade live pets. I have no doubts about dead ones, especially since you can bury them in the Pet Cemetary. The All Self-Important Mackie 19:37, 30 May 2007 (BST)
Just hopped down to the trading post, and dead pets are on the list of things to trade. Azuaron 22:00, 30 May 2007 (BST)


Come ON! Tell me if it works! S. Mackie 18:04, 1 June 2007 (BST)

I'm not sure if it's going to happen... I'm still waiting for the Miracle Pill. Azuaron 18:19, 1 June 2007 (BST)
*winces* I don't have the spell, and besides, I'm in the City of Lead and Gold. I'll look into this myself, later, if I must. S. Mackie 18:23, 1 June 2007 (BST)
I still don't have the spell yet, since Corellis has been busy being stranded in the Mysterious City, as seen above. I have hiked up the Mountain Trail, flown the Golden Condor back down the Mountain Trail, and then flown the Golden Condor back down the Mountain Trail again. I'm currently weighing swiping Corellis' hat, summoning him to a Trading Post, and just hoping that he can steal it back before someone else steals it. Random4518 18:24, 1 June 2007 (BST)
Shiny. I'm willing to wait as long as I need to for the pill, just good to know it's still coming. Azuaron 19:06, 1 June 2007 (BST)
I had hoped that I had gone through enough wacky hijinks for existance to give in and allow me to get the spell. However, deep down I knew I was wrong. I am now currently at "Waterloo & City", a Pentacle at 51E, 52N, due to my reckless tampering with magic. The Golden Condor is nearby. ...Incidentally, it's either impossible to summon someone riding a Pwny, or impossible to summon someone that's inside the Golden Condor. Random4518 07:47, 2 June 2007 (BST)
A while after I asked Corellis to come to the nearby pentacle so we could trade, I checked, and the Golden Condor was nowhere nearby. I waited, but Corellis never showed up. Later, GL Ruthven came by, saw me (a player with a hat in a highly inaccessable/forbidden area), and rightly threw me out.
I'm currently standing at the Shrine of Earth, sincerely hoping that someone comes along and steals this Top Hat so that I can be summoned to a trading post on the off-chance that Corellis remembers to trade with me. Random4518 23:13, 2 June 2007 (BST)
Corellis came by, took his Top Hat back, and left again. I'm glad he's got it back, I didn't really want to steal it in the first place. However, I think it's safe to say that he has decided against trading with me for some reason.
Unless someone else comes along and offers to trade a Frankenweiner Spell, I guess I'll have to go back to hunting for it in Oz. Random4518 16:59, 3 June 2007 (BST)

I noticed on the spells page that there is a list of places the Frankenweiner spell won't work. I've been porting around a bit trying to find somewhere that it will. I'm assuming since the casting message is recorded below that spell, someone has successfully cast it somewhere. Are there any confirmed places it can be cast? Zingus 17:25, 3 June 2007 (BST)

When I made the suggestion for there to be something like the Frankenwiener Spell a while back, I suggested it might be an idea for it to only work when cast on a pentacle. This might have been implemented. Nuru nuru 15:20, 4 June 2007 (JST)

Hullo! I'm sorry about what happened... uh, suffice to say I have a serious condor addiction. Let me know when you're online (game time) and I'll be able to perform a trade if I'm active during then. ;) (opps, posted my reply in the wrong chronological order. :P) Corellis 04:18, 04 June 2007


Azuaron, if possible, please come to the Pentacle at 92E 6N. Your Miracle Pill has been made. Random4518 17:13, 4 June 2007 (BST)

(Unless you're still in Oz and would prefer to stay there, in which case I can swing by the city of your choice.) Random4518 18:36, 4 June 2007 (BST)
Please do advertise when you create a pentacle, I've been longing for mana for weeks (and thanks to whoever opened it by the way)--Solune 18:38, 4 June 2007 (BST)
Sorry it took me so long to get here, I've been discovering the downsides to Red Pills. But I'm at the Pentacle now. Azuaron 19:17, 6 June 2007 (BST)
The first test of the Miracle Pill has already been performed, and the results were completely unexpected. A single Miracle Pill would hypothetically revive your Kat for less than a second, then give it about -800% food level, instantly killing it again. I don't know whether the pill needs a newly dead pet to work or if the whole thing's an integer overflow bug or something, and there's been no word from the GLs about it. I'd be willing to try using two Miracle Pills on your Kat, to see if the second pill would work on the newly dead pet or if the integer value would wrap back around or whatever, but I only have two left. I know I already agreed to try one on Sir Garry's Goldfish, but one apparently wouldn't do any good, so... Random4518 19:56, 6 June 2007 (BST)
Is there a way to coat the pill with chocolate to make it go down easier? Azuaron 20:12, 6 June 2007 (BST)
I have my Kat back (alive). I don't know what was done to make the Miracle Pill work. Azuaron 20:22, 6 June 2007 (BST)
If hunger levels are calculated from the last time your pet is fed, then it'll always die the instant it's revived. This looks like a bug to me. - Isambard 20:24, 6 June 2007 (BST)
It was brought back to life by giving it two Miracle Pills, one after another, which would fit with the bug's probable nature. It was restored to 1% food level, and became 20% evil, possibly 10% per pill. This makes the Miracle Pill useless for people trying to get a Pet License, which is presumably intentional. Random4518 20:30, 6 June 2007 (BST)
Okay, so does someone sadistic out there want to tell us what happens when a pet becomes 100% evil? -- Thog 20:59, 6 June 2007 (BST)
Yes, this sounds like a bug. I'll look at it when I get the chance. Darksatanic 20:54, 6 June 2007 (BST)
Well, seeing as how this won't help me get a Pet License, I don't need the Miracle Pill after all. Thanks anyway. Sir Garry 02:16, 7 June 2007 (BST)
To the credit of the GLs, this also matches the effect of a Miracle Pill in the original book. When the Pill was administered to Wesley, it was expected only to bring him around for half an hour; essentially, to give verve and strength to him for only a short duration. What was surprising is how long it lasted. (Wesley sited love as the cause for his unusual longevity under its effects.) This is not made perfectly clear in the movie, but...
To clarify, when Wesley was brought in, he was "slightly dead." During the arguments, he had progressed to "mostly dead," so a full resurrection was impossible. However, the above could be done, rendering him useful for the siege. So I imagine many of these pets are well beyond "mostly dead," and are, in fact, "very, very dead." A second's worth of life would hardly surprise me. S. Mackie 21:33, 7 June 2007 (BST)
Just a heads up, Evil pets do attack you everyonce in a while instead of your prey. The pet does get xp for the attack if they are successful. So low hp horse owners need to be careful if they revive their pets.
Baby Trolls deal 500 a whack. If your pet rock dies, you might not want to bring it back to life! S. Mackie 01:57, 9 June 2007 (BST)
Would a Peeve attack you since you are not hated by it?
My (premeditated) guess is YES --Bubba_the_Shy 13:59, 16 June 2007 (BST)

Cleaning Up Space

In response to the post below (as well as personal frustration), I have assigned JADW8 to clean-up duty in space. He will be spending all of his AP in the next week killing the earth worms that populate outer space.

The reason I am posting this is to ask you for your help. If you have more than one character, please send one of them up to space to assist in the cleanup effort. It won't take too long if we all work together. Please spare a little time and AP to make this universe a better place. A place where asteroids and space invaders can roam free. A place where space ghosts won't have to worry about being overrun with worms.

Sign up below if you are willing to spare some time. You can pledge to spend a certain amount of time or to kill a certain number of worms before returning:

  • JADW8 pledges to kill as many worms as he can in seven days.
  • I'll send someone there as well, but there is limited black powder available at the markets? 7of9
  • I can help out for a few days until my Horsie gets too hungry. Unstenk
  • If this goes on for a bit longer than a week or two, I might be able to get one of my characters up there. Apart from maybe phasers and mining lasers, what else should I bring with me? Corellis

Actually, this didn't take very long at all. I just completed a sweep of space (took about 950AP). I have killed every earth worm up there. Any you see now are new additions.

This is a good point to start anew. Please, from this point forward, clean up the messes you make - in space or otherwise. --JAD 03:47, 29 May 2007 (BST)

Newly Shaman

So I'm a n00b at this magic stuff, at least in this game. I've a spellbook, although not much mana at this time, and I'm aware that casting from a spellbook takes more out of ya. However, there are some spells it's just plain nice to have in backup, I assume, and as such I would like to know which spells I'd want to copy into the book's relatively limited space. macksting 19:25, 25 May 2007 (BST)

First, try to find an apprentice to enchant a spellbook for you if you can. My best first level spells are : the 4 elemental balls, killing blow, toad, wizard retreat (to go to Oz) and maybe invisibility. For the second level, become element are useful, but the rest of them is more for fun (like magical display, illumination...)--Solune 22:15, 25 May 2007 (BST)
My lady wife likes to have bashing stuff and other damage multiplier spells in there, along with a wizards retreat spell. Syagrius 06:13, 29 May 2007 (BST)

Order your goods from the City of Gold and Lead, tonight only

I'll be in said City this evening, so if you'd like me to get anything for you, just add your name here. --Bubba_the_Shy 16:33, 25 May 2007 (BST)

- Eusebia for a Goldfish Egg + Flake Shaker (20250 gp).

- Goldfish Egg (20,000 GP) please. Didbert 21:41, 25 May 2007 (BST)

Alright, I'm done. For those who still want to get to the City, there is still a freshly cut path in the Thick Jungle.

Just in time for my birthday i'm running a duke making contest

In memory of how i acheved my dukedom i am opening up a Duke making contest. the winner will get 5 cucumber sammiches to present to the king. please post your entry on my talk page under the proper heading. Good luck! Doc S 10:00 PST may 24 2007


The portal (bring your own steaks) next to the party leads to the alternate ocean. There, you can kill shrimps for the trophy quest. Big fat thanks to the unknown creator

Hbookbinder be the creator of that thar portal. Arr... Kaos Dragon 03:38, 24 May 2007 (BST)
This, of course, happens while i'm trapped in space Tulk

Bowling Alley

There is a bowling alley next to the slaughtered Lamb on the 13th floor of the mall. I created it to catch myself a Harpy. Hope you have fun! - jennyann 14:07, 18 May 2007 (BST)

I suspect this has gone now... jennyann 23 May 2007

Worms in Space

I've been spending a great deal of time wandering around in space, killing all the earth worms left here by you lazy bastards. Please, I beg of you, stop opening cans or worms in space, it only clogs up the place and keeps the actual monsters from spawning, and these monsters are needed for the military quest (among other things). Worms don't actually help with mining asteroids, they make it worse (and keep asteroids from spawning), and if you are too lazy to keep track of your asteroids, then stay out. So stop opening worms, or feel my wrath!

-- X-Himy 03:31, 16 May 2007 (BST)

Although I offer little wrath, I certainly throw in behind this sentiment. When I destroy an asteroid, I destroy it utterly, usually getting far more out of it than I ever would by limiting its spawning. Save your worms for the Bomb Squad quest. Doc Mackie 04:17, 16 May 2007 (BST)
I certainly agree with the sentiment, with one clarification: worms do help in mining asteroids in the short term, if you're solely after power crystals and not metal. However, if you use this method, you should clean up after yourself when you're done, since leaving the worms there is detrimental to asteroid-mining in the long-term (since, as X-Himy rightly pointed out, it prevents more asteroids from spawning). --Dragon 08:34, 16 May 2007 (BST)
Actually, my experiences have played out differently. I tend to get at least half my crystals from smaller asteroids. Doc Mackie 10:54, 16 May 2007 (BST)
Well, I think we've all gotten crystals from small asteroids. The point is, though that one crystal will appear per Really Large Asteroid. If you use a Can of Worms to limit the spaces that RLA can explode into, you can be guaranteed to get a power crystal in 4 kills. Otherwise it's more like 16 or so (might be more, I'm not awake yet). That said, I agree with Dragon - cleaning up a worm field when you're done is good form -- Thog 12:48, 16 May 2007 (BST)
Assuming each asteroid splits into 4 smaller asteroids, then it would be a maximum of 93 kills. It would never be that many in real life though. - Isambard 22:23, 23 May 2007 (BST)

Feeling the love

"Shaman hbookbinder gives you a great big hug!" Hmm, I'm feeling good today :) --Bubba_the_Shy 08:56, 15 May 2007 (BST)

  • I got one too 7of9
  • I as well. Does this come of popping pills? Doc Mackie 19:55, 18 May 2007 (BST)

"New Pheonix" Record

Since the pheonix population has recently evolved, I thought I would establish a new goal for people to try to beat. I certainly realize it doesn't approach the 80+ generation pheonices that Dragon and Jon beat before they changed, but I thought this would be a good starting point for the new record:

The Pheonix (gen. 35) causes 596 points of damage.

You lose 100 Gold Pieces.
That feels so much better.

You attack the Pheonix (gen. 35).
You cause 128 points of damage, and receive 76288 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
You attack the Pheonix (gen. 35).
You cause 128 points of damage, and receive 76288 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
You attack the Pheonix (gen. 35).
You cause 94 points of damage, and receive 56024 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
You slay the Pheonix (gen. 35).
You gain 3 Quarrels.
You gain 102 Units of Charcoal.
You gain 62923 Gold Pieces.
You gain 561 Phoenix Feathers.

Condor Preservation Society

The Golden Condor (GC) needs help! Having been crashed into the interior by Fun Assassin, the GC is now trapped by the Death Mountains. Post your support for the restoration of the GC in order to see this magnificent creature returned to its natural habitat.

  • Technically a machine, but ahem. Support --Bubba_the_Shy 15:09, 11 May 2007 (BST)
    • This answers the long-standing question of whether a Fun Assassin *is* fun or *assassinates* fun. Droll 15:31, 11 May 2007 (BST)
Does it? What is the answer? -Fun Assassin
      • Has the method used been reported as a Bug? Droll 15:31, 11 May 2007 (BST)
        • The death mountains are the middle ring right? Cause if its the outer one all you have do to is fly it through a pass. I know, I've done it before. -King1216
How did he get it in there in the first place? o.O Rhapsodie 13:33, 12 May 2007 (BST)
I'd like to know this, too. This is a bug. Darksatanic 16:06, 12 May 2007 (BST)
I kind of assumed it was a prank by the Great Lords, since they were all hanging about when it happened. -Fun Assassin

Return of the Golem Factory

I've stolen Zingus' Gonzometro's idea and started mass producing golems at the Pentacle south of the current party. Help yourselves, although please limit yourself to one golem per customer.

The service is essentially free. If you have donations of mud (so I can create more golems) or elemental stones (so I can blow stuff up) I wouldn't turn them down, but don't feel that you have to skip golem-slaying just because you're broke. -- Elan 14:19, 9 May 2007 (BST)

And about 10 golems later, I'm out of AP. If any other mages want to take over while I recover AP, just mention so below (so you can get proper credit :-)) -- Elan 14:29, 9 May 2007 (BST)
Another batch of golems animated. This is AP-intensive enough (20 AP/golem) that I could use volunteers to actually animate the mud (I'll continue enchanting it). Note that you do not need to be a mage to do so. If you're willing to help in the endeavor, send me a PAYG and head on down to the pentacle in about an hour's time. When I'm back out of AP debt, I'll start passing out magic mud -- Elan 21:03, 9 May 2007 (BST)
I just sent you a PAYG, suggesting I could animate two - one for myself and one to leave up for someone else. If this sounds fair to you, please deposit the enchanted mud with me. If it doesn't, let me know what you'd like me to do. I also passed some mud over to help alleviate the materials cost. Thanks! -Jon 22:57, 9 May 2007 (BST)
Done. If anyone else wants the same deal, just let me know -- Elan 23:06, 9 May 2007 (BST)
I've animated like 6 Golems ("anyone" Golems) with 1HP for the Trophy Cabinet people, and I still have the original 2 Magic Mud. and now out of AP. --Duke angelsk MD 11:20, 10 May 2007 (BST)

I've been animating *many* Golems at the Hammered Anvil Fest. :-) It is fun until you track the Golem Bashing League. At least half of the Golems I created have been killed by folk who have already killed Golems before. It's not like there should be any doubt about whether they're Golems, and what they're there for because I call them all "Another military service golem courtesy of Stelio". I'm now keeping a permanent record and will remember the offenders. Hmmmm. -Stelio 20:40, 11 May 2007 (BST)

Just want to point out that I've been top of this league for a while, and the golems i've killed have been of my own making, as a test. 10x
I also have been making my own golems. Not sure I can keep up with the league while I'm away from the party though. -Scrumbucket 21:26, 11 May 2007 (BST)
I've been making quite a few golems, but got a bit carried away with the naming process (it's fun!) so I guess people might not have realised what they were? I just thought it was funny to have Take That at the party :) Spugmeistress 23:13, 11 May 2007 (BST)
Can people not make the golems too big? Surrounding the party with 40HP+ monsters kinda keeps the newbies out. Spugmeistress 16:39, 12 May 2007 (BST)

A very cool thing to do on your part Elan, but I'm wondering one thing... what idea of mine are you stealing? Zingus 21:49, 11 May 2007 (BST)

As I recall, you were generating golems for free a few pentacles ago (back when it was in Earth City). Or am I confusing you with someone else and not giving them proper credit? -- Elan 20:56, 12 May 2007 (BST)
That was probably me. :) Gonzometro 22:34, 12 May 2007 (BST)

I killed a bunch of 1-hit monsters called odd names, not realising what they were (they didn't have Golem in the name, and I wasn't really concentrating). Very very sorry! Ulf 23:42, 13 May 2007 (BST)

I think that if someone gives Golem an odd name, it's perfectly reasonable to expect those Golems to be killed off. I was only upset about mine being killed indiscriminately since it was so obvious what their intention was. But as per JADW27's suggestion, I'm only animating them on two routes at a time. It'll mean Golems less often, but also unhindered access to the party for all. :-) -Stelio 08:53, 14 May 2007 (BST)

Nightinghurricane Spell

If anyone's been wondering what one of these does, I've recently cast one at the current party. It would be good if someone could document the precise effects. 10X

So is Nightenhurricane now a level 2 spell, or is there now a way to become a wizard? hendsch 15:44, 9 May 2007 (BST)
(Gives 4HP per AP spent, lasted beetween 90 and 120 AP, not sure cause I spent 30 AP at once.) Wfpsy 17:55, 9 May 2007 (BST) Not sure anymore if this is right. I should have more HP...
I thought it gave 2 per AP spent, this inconsistincy (And how my HP is only 7x my max HP) is why I suggest somebody casts it again, it's realy useful... -King1216
thank you to the lovely wizards who have been casting all these healing spells on the party, i've just deposited a recently found Nightinggale spell with one of the mages at the pentacle so the HP-love can continue :) Spugmeistress 19:19, 10 May 2007 (BST)
I think it's random how much HP you get per AP spent, or maybe it decreases every time it's casted on you. -King1216
Yeah I was getting anywhere between 1 and 3HP per AP. Also, hits from monsters didnt seem to be taking effect, although I'm not sure -- 06:22, 11 May 2007 (BST)
I believe I saw the same thing(monsters causing no damage) but it was only twice so I thought it was my imagination Spacer one 11:52, 11 May 2007 (BST)

Downer Experiment

I'm collecting data on the power of Downers to convert items into less useful items. If you're passing through Brighthelm, please give a few items to Stranger (he's on the Pavilion trading post). - Isambard 23:50, 4 May 2007 (BST)

Phoenix generation changed?

I'm not sure whether this is a bug or a deliberate change; phoenixes have started doing more damage after level 2, and it took two tries to level from 1 to 2. --BlaisedeC 20:22, 4 May 2007 (BST)

After further analysis, it looks like a phoenix's damage now increases by its previous generation rather than by 1. The progression I observed was 1 (first gen. 1), 1 (second gen. 1), 2, 4, 7, 11, 16, 22, 29, 37, 46. --BlaisedeC 20:38, 4 May 2007 (BST)
Yeah, I just noticed it. Aw man, and to I was going to go on a phoenix slaying spree. :( I don't think the regeneration probability changed very much though.
You attack the Pheonix.
You cause 6 points of damage, and receive 6 experience.
The Phoenix regenerates, stronger than ever.
The Pheonix causes 1 points of damage.
You attack the Pheonix.
You cause 6 points of damage, and receive 6 experience.
The Phoenix regenerates, stronger than ever.
The Pheonix (gen. 2) misses you.
Now using Sword of Omens.
You attack the Pheonix (gen. 2).
You cause 18 points of damage, and receive 36 experience.
The Pheonix (gen. 2) causes 2 points of damage.
Now using Clean Bandage.
You attack the Pheonix (gen. 2).
You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
The Phoenix regenerates, stronger than ever.
The Pheonix (gen. 3) causes 4 points of damage.
You attack the Pheonix (gen. 3).
You cause 24 points of damage, and receive 96 experience.
The Phoenix regenerates, stronger than ever. 
The Pheonix (gen. 4) causes 7 points of damage.

Knitting Circle

The second Knitting Circle will be starting soon: it will be happening at the Hammered Anvil Fest that will be starting on 7 May 2007. There is still time to join in if you'd like to get yourself a set of winter woollies for a fraction of the AP cost of going it alone. :-) Particularly useful if you need to head to the Frozen North to complete your Trophy Cabinet. Sign up on the project page, or contact me by PAYG or Wiki. -Stelio 22:55, 1 May 2007 (BST)

Win A Soul - Voting Closed!

Voting is now closed - Jo is the lucky winner of one (slightly used) Heyus2's soul! (Or she will be once we've worked out where we put it. I'm sure it's around here somewhere. Probably under the elephant poop.) Plus we now have two nifty new Cities tools - huzzah!

Moj 11:40, 2 May 2007 (BST)

Congratulations Jo! Much thanks to all those who voted for mine. Timekeeper 11:49, 2 May 2007 (BST)

Shame there's not say, half a soul, for runner's up. Very close competition --Duke angelsk MD 11:54, 2 May 2007 (BST)

Though technically, despite being new and in an unopened package, my soul is half a soul. Please be gentle; I'm sure Elseware did something far more evil than me clubbing cute baby seals on the beach with my soul that allows you to play puppetier with me! Congratulations! - Heyus2 15:56, 2 May 2007 (BST)

Previous Discussion

There are currently 2 entries for the Soul Contest - to vote for your favourite (one vote each, please) just sign under the one you like the most. If your entry isn't here and should be, add it to this list. You have until 23:59 on Tuesday :)

The Trophy Tracker appears to use the XML as well (at least, it doesn't work if I'm not showing my info). Is this ineligible for some reason? (I know I'd vote for it) -- Thog 02:31, 1 May 2007 (BST)
I don't /think/ it uses it - or at least I can't see a mention to the XML in the source ;) Moj 07:51, 1 May 2007 (BST)
Hmm. I can't access 4cities progress from work (host blocked as a gambling site), and Questr gets some things wrong for me (for example, tells me BlaisedeC has not done any totems when he's completed the totems). What and where is this Trophy Tracker? -- 16:58, 1 May 2007 (BST)
A gambling site?! Does it say why? --Duke angelsk MD 19:28, 1 May 2007 (BST)
Totems issue fixed Timekeeper 09:56, 2 May 2007 (BST)

For those who haven't figured it out yet, if you are logged in you can sign your name at the end of the list you are voting for by adding an asterisk and 4 tildes on a new line like this:

* ~~~~

In alphabetical order...

4cities (by Jo)

  • Snarfer 13:12, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Heyus2 00:04, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Kaos Dragon 00:04, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Moj 00:05, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • JAD 00:06, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Sertularian 01:25, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Phw 01:28, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • king1216 8:47 30 April 2007 (Eastern USA/Canada time) Voted for this one cause the other one mistakenly said I completed the gauntlet. I havn't yet.
  • --smudgepuss 02:31, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Random4518 02:39, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Gonzometro 03:57, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Sir Garry 04:41, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • GrumpyNick 13:38, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Hamelin 05:54, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • MrFoo 10:25, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Mac_55 10:52, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • --Deva 12:01, 1 May 2007 (BST) This is really cool - the other one seems to miss some stuff, but this one even got I had malaria at some point.
  • Spacer one 12:47, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Spugmeistress 13:33, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Scrumbucket I wish this one tracked visits like the other, but the other was incomplete and gave a few bad results (gorgan, beanstalk)
  • Azuaron 15:58, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Katerwaul 16:31, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Tred 16:33, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Tulk The other one is great too, but it had a few too many mistakes
  • GargoyleBoy 21:08, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Timekeeper 09:57, 2 May 2007 (BST) - Because its a nice thing to do, she cracked the Harveys Farm Baby order, inspired me to tackle the standing stones, has the ingredients for mixology and is quite hot :).

Questr (by Timekeeper)

  • PotatoEngineer 00:13, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Isambard 00:44, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Nuru nuru 09:04, 1 May 2007 (JST)
  • --Mall Security (Qazxcv) 01:50, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Kressida - 08:06, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Philipjfry 08:13, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • jennyann14:09, 1 May 2007 (BST) except totems seems to be a bit broken...
  • Greycat 14:28, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Jpv 14:28, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  • Boobie 20:32, 1 May 2007 (BST) one of the quests was wrong, but I like the market feeds
  • Flt 21:51, 1 May 2007 (BST) would be great to have different pages
  • Haldar 02:57, 2 May 2007 (BST)
  • --Duke angelsk MD 11:33, 2 May 2007 (BST) - because without competition I would probably not have finished mine, thank you ;)

One soul not enough for you? Want to have a spare in case you need to learn to play the violin Really Well? You can be the proud owner of Heyus2's soul in the Cities Programming Challenge!

We've recently unleashed some XML entry points - you can now get players' inventories and all their info (if they make it available). Show us what you can do with this data, and the writer of the best toy we see using it by the end of April wins Heyus2's soul!

Get coding!

Moj 22:27, 4 April 2007 (BST)

Now with super fruity Shiny Things! See your cabinets in the XML; see your cameras in the XML; see your pets in the XML (like this)! And, as a little side-mission, if someone makes a really shiny Dashboard widget that does a nice artistic view of one of the above, I'll send them a Mars Bar (or the UK confectionery of their choice). If you aren't UK, I'll paypal (or something) a few pence over so you can buy one yourself.

Moj 22:14, 20 April 2007 (BST)

Soul is 'like new' in original unopened package. Meanwhile come visit my seal fur house at 6E 0S DSSGCM - Heyus2 22:33, 4 April 2007 (BST)
i would sell my soul for a pet ghost... it would be awesome
I'd sell my Soul for another's Soul (mine's a little battered ;-) ) Azuaron 11:57, 5 April 2007 (BST)
One good ideas for this would be to get both info and invent of a player and then advise them of what items are still needed for the scavenger hunt, the heinlein books, tarot cards and pop singles. Show which are still needed by the player AND (here's the mash-up, so fasionable!) list the cheapest market to get it from (if any) from citiesberg's API. Elseware 07:51, 6 April 2007 (BST)
I'd quite like something that generates a shopping list for the cocktail quest (poss using the market price in the same way :) . Alternatively, something that sends you a message (email, sms, etc) when your baby needs feeding (you can find that out from the stats now - as well as a whole load of other things ;). Moj 10:26, 6 April 2007 (BST)
I was already working on a straightforward Excel spreadsheet to do that, and I happened to have finished it off. Here you go. :-) Not as fancy as something that reads in the data automatically and links to Citiesberg and so on, but certainly functional enough for someone who is finding it difficult to track all of the various items needed for the Mixology quest. -Stelio 21:15, 11 April 2007 (BST) (Oh, and naturally this isn't an entry into the contest since it doesn't do any fancy stuff with XML.)
Ok I have stepped up to the mark with v1 of Cities Questr. It mashes up info.xml, inventory.xml and the citiesberg lowest price xml page to make this : Questr. Currently works out what your travel, tarot, CD, Herbs and Heinlein position are. Mixology and the rest are coming soon....... Timekeeper 18 April 2007 (BST)
Love it! But it incorrectly says I have YSMR(LAR) - I got very excited there for a moment! Phw
Sorry, fixed it now, it was getting confused with Your Disco Needs You...Timekeeper 18 April 2007 (BST)
Yep, way cool - it shows that I haven't finished Fortune Tellers when I have. Cthu1hu 06:45, 22 April 2007 (GMT)
Am currently working on a Cities Progress page (4cities). Would like feedback :) --Jo 13:52, 18 April 2007 (BST)
Looks great Jo. 2 minor bugs, it says I haven't finished mixology or smelly pete, which I have. Hbookbinder 21:39, 20 April 2007 (BST)
Thanks :) Did you go back to see Smelly Pete after finding his parents? You don't appear to have the "key" stat set. Adding in the proper mixology stats (I typoed ;) - Thanks. --Duke angelsk MD 21:49, 20 April 2007 (BST)
Any chance that shop contents can be expose via XML? I'd LOVE to have a way to tell where I can go for a particular item. -- Thog 22:50, 20 April 2007 (BST)

Neither one of these two tools work for me, in Firefox I get a bunch of PHP errors at the top of the page (from both tools) and nearly all of the quests I've done aren't marked as such. In IE when I put my username in (LimeHan), it doesn't do anything and refreshes the username input page.--Hamelin 17:52, 25 April 2007 (BST)

Ah, this is a problem with the Cities xml, not the tools - something isn't escaped correctly for your user. Try with a different user, such as mikej and you'll see they work fine. Will point Harvey at this. --Duke angelsk MD 19:26, 25 April 2007 (BST)
Fixx0red --Duke angelsk MD 19:46, 25 April 2007 (BST)

I would be dead keen to see an app that tells you which Monster League tables you're top of, and how far off you are with the others. All this XML coding ain't my bag, baby, but if there is some genius out there willing to give it a go...? - Cthu1hu 13:30, 30 April 2007 (GMT)
Also, would somebody replace or repair the Citiesberg grapher?! Doc Mackie 20:08, 30 April 2007 (BST)

On another note, I'm unable to bring myself to vote. I like both. Really. And I'd hate to see either halt development, although if either does halt development, would the person who was in charge of it please help the other guy, because they're both good. Doc Mackie 08:24, 2 May 2007 (BST)
I agree completely with the good Doctor. (That's why I couldn't bring myself to place a binding vote.) -Stelio 18:46, 2 May 2007 (BST)

Where oh where has our Rank Gone?

It seems the ability to see who is a duke or a knight has left us. Is our only ability to tell currently based off of the outside line on their square? Am I the only one who sees this?

That is all.

Just you. Doc Mackie 07:24, 30 April 2007 (BST)
Actually, it was everyone, but the GLs fixed it. (Something to do with switching the order in which the titles appear for nobles in the military, I believe.) --Dragon 08:14, 30 April 2007 (BST)

Hideous Pun Alert For Chicken Slayers

Getting eggs just got a hell of a lot easier (and you can also get goat's milk and sheep's milk). Head to Harvey Farm, and look for the staircase in the south-west corner. Then climb right to the top. Rackmount 09:15, 29 April 2007 (BST)

Yes just ran into a goat near fire city. Got some goats milk then killed it for the trophy case and got some goats horns and an ooh (which seems to be some kind of weapon). Katerwaul 21:31, 29 April 2007 (BST)

Next time I also got a 'gruff'. Blew the Goat Horn and ended up on Harvey's Farm.Katerwaul 09:36, 30 April 2007 (BST)

I blew the goat horn in the frozen north and got Bwaap! Nothing happens. hendsch 14:34, 1 May 2007 (BST)

Note that you can also acquire goat hair using a pair of scissors - Baldrick


I've just started a pentacle in the Immemorial Park in Earth City. There's such nice cherry blossom in the park at this time of year, I thought it would be nice to chill out and get a load of mana whilst enjoying the fresh air of spring. All welcome. Bring your own sake. Nuru nuru 10:59, 25 April 2007 (JST)

There's already one going next to the party--perhaps you should schedule them like parties to avoid overlap... --Dragon 05:16, 25 April 2007 (BST)
For all you trophy-hunters out there, I've animated some golems around Immemorial Park. Quantities limited. Limit one per person. Donations welcome. I'll make more each time I log in.Gonzometro 02:53, 27 April 2007 (BST)
Thanks, Gonzo! I've taken as many as my license will allow. (Yeah, that'd be one. Awesome.) Doc Mackie 19:53, 28 April 2007 (BST)
Please stop abusing my free golems. One per person! This offer expires with the pentacle, so let those who haven't bagged one yet fill their quota. I've been watching the charts, so I know who you are. </grumble> Gonzometro 21:56, 30 April 2007 (BST)


I think something's happening in the Mall. Every time I kill a Zombie, two regenerate. Coincidence? Or Outbreak?

Perhaps another Urban Dead reference? A zombie tried, but failed, to steal my crops while I was standing on them. - Gabor Kiss
Wasn't there a Zombies in a Mall console game that came out not too long ago? PotatoEngineer 02:23, 30 April 2007 (BST)
You do realize everyone cracking jokes about zombies as soon as Darth Mall was introduced was because of Dawn of the Dead, right? I mean, you expect to see zombies and a mall go together these days :-) -- Thog 03:40, 30 April 2007 (BST)
id feel more safe if i was in a pub.shaun of the dead bobtheslayer 05:52, 30 April 2007 (BST)
talking of which, attacking them with a record does not make them die. which is unfortunate. jennyann

Big Brother needs to watch you

Calling all players who use FireFox to play Cities! The general data-collecting Big Brother Greasemonkey script has now reached version 2.61. This script looks over your shoulder and reports monster drops, monster accuracy, farming results, mining results, and a ridiculous amount of other data. It's safe, stable, doesn't slow your page loads, and throws all data into a central database. No more worrying about typos on the wiki! Furthermore, the data is viewable to all. To contribute, download Greasemonkey if you don't have it already, grab the script, and get a key by palantiring Cor in-game, or marking up PotatoEngineer's talk page. One key per set of alts, and you can even track your contribution scores per-alt or per-player. Once the script is installed, it should create a box labeled "Big Brother:" above the "say" box in the game. Click "Show Key", then enter your key and click OK, and you can start reporting every little thing about you. PotatoEngineer 00:56, 24 April 2007 (BST)

I love Big Brother. Doc Mackie 02:43, 30 April 2007 (BST)
All this needs now is for someone to write a mututally-incompatible GM script called "Emmanuel Goldstein", and we're away... Darksatanic 12:34, 1 May 2007 (BST)

Another Wizard Hat Auction

Right. I've decided to emerge into the 'kingdom again, so I thought I'd give other players the opportunity to bid for my Wizard's Hat. Please leave bids here. There are two items that I do require, but these are easy to get hold of - simply, an empty book and a 'become fire' spell. If you can supply these things and also add any other item, sum of money, or promised service, I shall summon you to a trading post where you can exchange them for my hat. I promise that I shall make no attempt to recover the hat from the player that wins this auction. I shall pick the bid that most appeals to me, not necessarily the most valuable or powerful. (Although, Gold Blings may sway me)Tenecks

Bid Here
Okay, for get the book and spell - any bids at all? Open to any offers.
I bid 3 short strings. :) Kaos Dragon 00:29, 24 April 2007 (BST)
11 feathers Tulk
12 sheets of paper! PotatoEngineer 03:13, 24 April 2007 (BST)

my spell bag bobtheslayer 04:05, 24 April 2007 (BST) p.s. i also have a cd bag full of cds.

What's in your spell bag? If it has Become Fire, I may consider it.

it has almost every spell, i think its just missing a few lvl 3 spells

Okay, sure. Let me know when's good for you and we can do the exchange. X
just summon me there and ill take it and give you the goods, but not yet , how bout around 3 o clock game time, in the afternoon
are you about now? i'll summon you at 7.15pm gmt

Come on ! you could have found a place more remote then Atlantish to sit under your hat. I regretfully announce that this auction is off,due to my stealing of said hat. Yitscar19:36, 25 April 2007 (BST)

No. The Auction is still on. I'll have the hat back off you later.
Tenecks is a filthy cheater. He bugged the 'king to give him some special summon stones that can summon someone if they've got a hat. Kaos Dragon 22:07, 25 April 2007 (BST)
Aha, so that's what he did. I 'borrowed' his Wizards hat and hid myself, but I was 'teleported' back to the spot even though I was wearing a hat and he stole the hat back. Didn't get any messages like 'You have been summoned by...' or anything. --TerrorRemedy 07:49, 26 April 2007 (BST)
I have many compasses and complete mastery of the Hat Hunter spell. There will be no need to cheat. The Game is afoot! (As soon as I build up some AP and Mana...) X
Yeah right. Yitscar, watch out for sudden location changes. There's no other way of telling he cheated. Kaos Dragon 23:31, 25 April 2007 (BST)
Bored now. The hat will be mine again. And then I shall pass it on. Or maybe I'll have your next hat off you. You'll never see me coming. What with my new ninja skills, seeing as I've just complete the new ninja island quest that no one else seems to have found yet. X

UPDATE : Hiding in the jungle can get pretty boring, especially if you're looking for a trade. The wizard hat will go to anyone who can provide me with a new cabinet. I'll provide the materials and PAYG the location of a remote trading post--Yitscar10:17, 28 April 2007 (BST)

Great Lord Yendor Needs Help!!!

So while putzing about through the halls of R'1yeh, I passed the exit to the Hall of Mirrors. Can't get in still, but Yendor appears to be there, wearing a badge that says "Er... help?"

So someone should really go there and help him, right? Me? I don't know how to enter the Hall of Mirrors. I'm just the idea guy :-) -- Thog 22:09, 22 April 2007 (BST)

I have an idea and I've been planning to urm, 'map' R'1yeh, for a while now... PlanetNiles 11:07, 23 April 2007 (BST)
I have a map of R'1yeh: User:Isambard/R'1yeh Map. - Isambard 19:37, 23 April 2007 (BST)
Any news? I'm rather anxious to learn if the Hall of Mirrors is accessible. Gonzometro 02:48, 27 April 2007 (BST)
Well he wasn't there when I got there. And yes Isambard, I'm aware of your so-called map. However it only shows movement in one direction makinging it little better than half a map... As for my idea of entering the hall of mirrors using a mirror, I was mistaken. Oh well. PlanetNiles 10:44, 29 April 2007 (BST)
My map shows a route to every room and exit in R'1yeh in the simplest possible way. With it you can get from the Black Beach to any room quite easily. If I included every single path between rooms, the map would be completely unusable because of the massive number of paths. - Isambard 05:39, 30 April 2007 (BST)

The only (possibly) useful thought I have on the matter is that if casting the Hop South spell from the Gallery goes the the Dripping Walls (which otherwise are not connected) then perhaps other directed hops from any R'1yeh rooms may somehow lead to the Hall of Mirrors. This would take a dedicated wizard-type some time to further map out, but I don't see any other way of getting there (certainly not on foot directly). -Stelio 12:43, 28 April 2007 (BST)

The hop/skip/jump spells, kraken pieces, etc. do not let you get to otherwise inaccessible locations. (People keep suggesting them, though....) And I'm pretty sure Yendor can take care of himself, and was just having a bit of fun--I saw him two days ago at the folk club. --Dragon 13:51, 28 April 2007 (BST)


We have the 'King's Pwny. We will return her unharmed when the following conditions are met:

Level Three Wizardry and Armourer are open.
Free Speech across the whole of the 'kingdom.
The Third Secret of Fatima is revealed.

Um, you do realize that as the supreme 'King, he can press a couple of buttons and have it back from your possession, right? Of course, I'd like to see the new level 3 quests myself, as a lowly level 2 armourer. :) Syagrius the-too-lazy-to-sign-in
An interesting point, but if he's willing to play ball, they're got the right idea. Doc Mackie 00:58, 29 March 2007 (BST)
I would hope that (in the spirit of the game, and the nature of the "Ransom") the King would graciously comply Spacer one 02:04, 29 March 2007 (BST)
Or wreak a particularly entertaining brand of havoc upon the kidnappers, anyhow. The pwny just returning to the king with a poof seems so... anticlimactic. We need fire! And Brimstone! And Giant Craters! (and this is a request for the kidnappers to stand NOWHERE NEAR me :-) ) -- Thog 03:35, 29 March 2007 (BST)
If the King agree, beware when you´re returning the pwony... Lots of kidnappers are caught this way
Most kidnappers kill their hostage! Poor Pwny :(
Can't kill the Pwny in a permanent way. *shrug* Azuaron 15:30, 29 March 2007 (BST)
Mmmmm...Pwny Burgers... The Ex-Presidents
What happens if they don't feed the pwny? As far as the ransom is concerned - The quests opening would be cool. Free speech would be terribly annoying - if ya wanna chat, go to the chatroom. The other one... You're asking the wrong Cabal..er.. person. Syagrius 16:58, 29 March 2007 (BST)
As of this very moment, my Contract Palantir is entirely sapped; no stores will sell to me. To my knowledge, there are no Palantir shops in Bognor.
The hell?
So yeah, I've got a personal stake in this. Unless they install a Palantir shop in Bognor, that's a huge swath of difficult-to-get-to land which won't sell to you if you don't keep a close watch on your bill before heading out. Free would be nice, eh? Doc Mackie 21:24, 29 March 2007 (BST)
The King should decide soon, we're running out of food for his Pwny... Ex-President Nixon
I'll hold on to him, if you can get to space. --A Duke With A Nice Helmet That Says NI 20:45, 31 March 2007 (BST)
You know Pwnies can graze on pastures and meadows, right? Azuaron 16:43, 1 April 2007 (BST)
...oh. Uhh, I mean...of course we were aware! Just thought that the Pwny would prefer carrots instead of grass, that's all. Thanks for saying that for the people that aren't aware, though. - Ex-President Nixon (who totally already knew Pwnys can graze)
So, um, any updates on this tense and closely-watched situation? Negotiations? Nerve-wracking phone calls with whinnying in the background? Thumbscr---er, hoofscrews? PotatoEngineer 06:03, 15 April 2007 (BST)




PS - We've now learnt to forage and have found some herbs that we think will go really well with roast pwny. But we're getting kinda attached to her and are hoping that Brighthelm Syndrome will kick in soon so she'll join the revolution too!

She has already has aided me in battle. Soon, she will aid us in putting an end to the kings tyranny! Mwahahahah! - Ex-President Nixon

Egg hunt, dead copperisblue

I'm leaving now. Heading out somewhere to kill myself. I'm going to make it nice and easy to find. Someplace where the young players can find my corpse. And if you find it, keep everything on the body (and it still has a bag of leather, etc). I'm done.

oh, here's your clue:

Did you ever think as a herse goes by that you may be the next to die? They wrap you up in a big white sheet from your head way down to your feet. and the worms crawl in and the worms crawl out in your stomache and out your snout.

There, that should give it away. Copperisblue 17:58, 20 April 2007 (BST)

We'll miss you! For my part, I was just thinking how funny it would be if, ten years from now, I'm still a Tubthumper. I know, at least, that I shall take my Cities experiences with me to other game. However, I don't see any meaningful end to my fun here just yet, so... I'll be among those diminished by your passing. 21:47, 20 April 2007 (BST)
Actually, I could be wrong but I think that copper is actually an alt of Skold, who last I heard, wasn't going anywhere... -- Thog 22:53, 20 April 2007 (BST)

The camera adds 10 pounds

  • 4W, 33N is now known as the "Harvey Gallery." Description:
A really tall guy comes out from the back of this gallery, which has been luridly decorated
in red velvet and black leather, and introduces himself as Sy. "I'm looking for photographs
of celebrities for my collection." he says. "I'll give you a one-of-a-kind piece of
photographic equipment if you get them!"
  • 3W, 33N is now known as "Harvey's Photographics." You can buy rolls of film there (2000 each, 5000 for 3). Description:
Looking totally incongruous to the rest of the hall, this bright little shop is stacked floor
to ceiling with rolls of film and photography supplies. A faint cough alerts you to the
presence of a small bow-tied man at your knees.
  • When you combine a roll of film with an Empty Pinhole Camera (5AP), you gain a Pinhole Camera.
  • Selecting said pinhole camera tells you that you have 12 exposures left, and you have the option to [Smash (0AP)].
  • There was no option to actually take a picture, but that may be due to the fact that there were no "celebrities" around. :)

--JAD 03:35, 20 April 2007 (BST)

I just took a picture of Dr. Karma. It takes 10 AP to take a picture. Random4518 04:08, 20 April 2007 (BST)

I noticed all the critters around the Gallery have "confused" in front of their names. Confused Sparrow, Confused Glow Worm... Rhapsodie 10:09, 23 April 2007 (BST)

Iä! Iä! Field Trip fhtagn!

I'm organizing a summon chain to R'1yeh on Sunday evening. Sign up here to join. Flt 15:48, 19 April 2007 (BST)

A note to warriors looking to join the military: short of already having a talisman enchanted or getting someone to summon you, this is by far the least painful way to get to Oz or Space (and a pretty good way to get to Cloud Land, at that). Given how many critters from these places need to go in the trophy cabinet, this is an option you might want to consider. -- Thog 22:50, 21 April 2007 (BST)
The early shift has departed. However, there is a late shift leaving at 10:00 game time. Sign up on the page if you want in. -- Thog 20:44, 22 April 2007 (BST)

wizard auction here

ugh im just going to call it off, and sell the spells at my store

New Knight Quest

There's a new quest that involves hunting down a huge pile of trophies. Sounds like fun! Flt 18:19, 17 April 2007 (BST)

Illusions are a monster!

You attack the Omar the Ice Troll.
You cause 1 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
It was just an illusion!
You slay the Omar the Ice Troll.
You add the trophy to your case!

So very, very wrong. Doc Mackie 23:08, 20 April 2007 (BST)

You get the "You add the trophy" message for every monster, even those (like illusions) which aren't on the list. --Dragon 03:53, 21 April 2007 (BST)

Giving Away in FREE Auction...

a Furious Bow (Jaberwock bane) (one hit kill for a Duke), a Copper Axe (treeman bane), a dragon stone and Brighthelm rock.

To enter into the contest, give Copperisblue a memo (or palantir him or put a note on his discussion page or somehow let him know) that tells me your name. That's it. Just your name on a sheet of paper.

I'm in Air City at the New Trading Post. I'm pushing back the drawing until late Sunday.Copperisblue 12:24, 14 April 2007 (BST)

I've got only 13 tickets sofar. Chances of winning are looking good! It's free!
alright, 17 entries. They are,
  1. a Memo (Duke amishrobots MD)
  2. a Memo (Duke macksting MD)
  3. a Memo (Haldar's Entry)
  4. a Memo (Spacer One)
  5. a Memo (Merchant MD)
  6. a Memo (Tulk MD)
  7. a Memo (flt MD)
  8. a Memo (jennyann MD)
  9. a Memo (phw MD)
  10. a Memo (Fun Assassin)
  11. a Memo (Scrumbucket's)
  12. a Memo (LimeHan)
  13. a Memo (Stoo)
  14. a Memo (andrewski)
  15. a Memo (havelock)
  16. a Memo (scary mike)
  17. a Memo (timekeeper)

I'm using the random number generator on random.org. Hope it works well.

First number is for the Furious Bow:
11 = Scrumbucket

(take him out, roll 1d16:)
second number is for the Copper Axe:
3 = Haldar

(take him out, roll 1d15:)
third number is for my dragon stone:
14 = Scary Mike

(take him out, roll 1d14:)
fourth number is for the Brighthelm Rock
12 = Andrewski

"And there," said the mayor, "that's that." Copperisblue 00:22, 16 April 2007 (BST)

Ah well. :) Y'all enjoy your prizes! Doc Mackie 01:39, 16 April 2007 (BST)

May I ask the winners to come to the New trading post in Air city, or at least tell me where to find them. Thanks.

Lalumi at auction

The character Lalumi, who gets AP at a rate of one every 3 minutes, is going in an auction for charity! Details: Auctions/Lalumi

ip ad:

ok this may seem a bit strange, i was going over some of the history pages and came to this ip a lot. and when i checked his log, i found the hole page deleted and than the next one has some1 put it right back up. but this seemed strange since in his contrib page these were done seconds apart, and how someone would be able to do that amazes me unless it was a bot. but what comes up is why would someone do this, and it wasnt even april foola

That's a former player (name omitted to protect the guilty). The short version of his story is that he was caught exploiting the game, complained about getting punished for it, and then when people were unsympathetic to his complaints he started randomly vandalizing the wiki. He came back about a month ago and started doing it again (probably what you saw), and creating several dozen characters in short succession. From what I understand, he's now been IP-banned from both game and wiki. Good riddance IMHO. --Dragon 06:13, 13 April 2007 (BST)
  • @(*&$&$#-er. ;-) Azuaron 06:55, 13 April 2007 (BST)
yea i'll say, but this couldnt have been him, so im guessing he used a bot to do this, becuase all pages were gone in a second after the one before it bobtheslayer 14:17, 13 April 2007 (BST)

Corpse Tag!

Tag - Conzy is "it".

Forest Shop

I haven't seen this documented in the wikki yet, anyone seen it? Perhaps someone with more editing skills than I could document it. It's east of the thieves' den. It's not a player owned shop and is full of random items, each costing a grand. Very odd.

Forest Shop Here with the help of JaneEveryone. --City Guard Qazxcv 23:22, 12 April 2007 (BST)
Yes, I spotted that a few days ago. You can get some good bargains there alright. Managed to get a bling bling for a grand. I assume it's all or some of the things that get stolen by thieves in the forest. So if you get something important stolen by them, maybe you could head on over to this shop and get it back quick. Nuru nuru 08:44, 13 April 2007 (JST)
When I was there, nothing was worth buying. I did lose a bling bling to a thief yesterday, so that would make sense. --JAD 01:01, 13 April 2007 (BST)
Coordinates?hendsch 13:07, 13 April 2007 (BST)
2E of the Den, but try to kill the thief first. It might still have the item instead. Kaos Dragon 22:06, 13 April 2007 (BST)
  • Confirmation: I just lost a relatively unique (and valuable) item to a thief, which I found at the shop only moments later. Thus, I can confirm that this store obtains items through slightly less-than-honest means. --JAD 02:54, 18 April 2007 (BST)

Marching Morons Society

I've created a page for players to post their more idiotic achievements (like the time you attacked the undead dragon with your magic opal) and i'm hoping it will catch on. Obviously I stole the idea from a previous post (in current events i think)but since i can no longer find that post or any page it may have linked to, i have created my own page. Please, join the ranks of the society marching morons. because i'd hate to be the only one... --AmishRobots 04:38, 11 April 2007 (BST).

of course only a true Moron would forget a link to the page: Marching_Morons_Society

the free aprentice is back!

after all my rambling i decided to come back to my ways and will be becoming a duke soon anyway so get my last fruit while you can. go to my talk page now. bobtheslayer 17:20, 10 April 2007 (BST)

Good to have you back. Will you still be championing the cause of the Wizard's union? Even though I can see both sides, as I said, litigation is probably your best bet. Doc Mackie 17:42, 10 April 2007 (BST)
well everyone im spending a week at wizards retreat to nab fruit than im down with being an aprentice and will head of to become a duke again. so far i still have 3 pineapples and 1 coconut left, and when im done with collecting ill re write my talk page with the final results bobtheslayer 03:53, 11 April 2007 (BST)

Portal to the party

I created a portal from the old party to the new one as of this timestamp. 10 AP to use. The portal's name is Jill, I don't know how long portals last, please post when it's no longer there. Hbookbinder 01:43, 9 April 2007 (BST)

its gone Jennyann 11:38, 10 April 2007 (BST)
Crap. There go all my plans for hosting parties in exotic locations. Hbookbinder 17:41, 10 April 2007 (BST)
Well, that sucks. Good to know, though; the portal seems to have seen a lot of use, too, so it wasn't a waste. (By the way, thank you!) Doc Mackie 17:42, 10 April 2007 (BST)
Actually, it sounds like the spell lasts a day. So why not have a team of wizards, each of whom has to cast it one day? Figure that's 12 people volunteering (6 wizards and 6 talisman producers) to help spread the load. I know I'd help with that (for sheer variety). Thog 21:59, 10 April 2007 (BST)
For that matter, using the portal to seed the party and relying upon the summoning circle for the balance of the week would be a viable option as well. -- Thog 21:59, 10 April 2007 (BST)
I'm glad it was used. I'm only disapointed because I wanted to host the next party at the 'King's Fortress of Solitude or outside Dark Satanic's House, but with only 1 day durations, I don't think it's practical. I personally disapprove of party locations more than 10 AP from a common talisman destination. Getting a roster of wizards may be possible for a specific party or two, but I don't think the effort could be sustained for very long. Hbookbinder 05:39, 11 April 2007 (BST)

NO Easter Egg Hunt

There isn't going to be an Easter Egg Hunt this year because the 'King is getting wankered at The Hobbit (the real one) with Darksatanic! Using the darkest and most eeevil magicks I posess, I have lured him to the current party near Air City.

I thoroughly suggest everyone pokes him with pokey sticks and throws poop on him as an expression of their displeasure. Ex-President Clinton

I like a good Easter Egg Hunt as much as the next guy, but I think it's completely immature to try to throw a tantrum at the 'King because of the lack of hunt. I thank the 'King for his wonderful game, and if he doesn't want to spend the time on an Easter Egg Hunt, he doesn't have to. I'll do one of the numerous other wonderful activities and quests available because of His Majesty. Azuaron (Tory) 22:34, 8 April 2007 (BST)
Yes, but it's still funny. The point is teh funny, not teh game.
Which is why I've classified myself as a Tory. ;-) Azuaron 23:24, 8 April 2007 (BST)
Now that's just taking things too far...
Is that even possible?
Apparently not. Us colonials don't need an egg hunt from the 'King.

Bowling alley open for business

There is a bowling alley open at 9E 1N DSSGCM. I'm not quite sure when it opened, but it will close within 24 hours of my timestamp. PotatoEngineer 22:39, 6 April 2007 (BST)

snakes on the plain

i just recently walked into the frozen north to find snakes on my plain. whats up with thes mother... snakes on my mother... plain bobtheslayer 21:39, 5 April 2007 (BST)

Snakes on a Plane?
Was I the only one who felt let down by that movie? They could have made it a little campier and cheesed it up a bit. It took itself too seriously, I mean it was Snakes on a Plane. Hbookbinder 09:07, 6 April 2007 (BST)
Oddly, I never got around to seeing it. Doc Mackie 09:16, 6 April 2007 (BST)
I was seriously disappointed. It could have been so much better. I had to go rent Eight-Legged Freaks to console myself. Much better silly monster movie. -Scrumbucket 12:24, 6 April 2007 (BST)
I thought it was hilarious right up until the explosive decompression. Everyone knows the Mythbusters already proved it doesn't work that way. Azuaron 13:19, 6 April 2007 (BST)
yea i know 2 times even, and people still complain about. evan on the national geographic they talk about it. its only a hollywood myth bobtheslayer 15:13, 6 April 2007 (BST)
This event is somewhat...less than current. (Although to be fair, maybe someone less lazy than I should add the Fire Swamp and Great Plain to the Rough Guides page....) --Dragon 07:25, 8 April 2007 (BST)

Doom Wand

just pick one off a rubber duckie. 99% to hit, i have 100% base.

You attack the Rubber Duckie.
Your Doom Wand is currently 96% charged. Please enter password:
My Dog Shaggy misses the Rubber Duckie.
The Rubber Duckie misses you.

Duke Sparrow

Try IDKFA or IDDQD - these are the old 'give all weapons' and 'god mode' codes for Doom. Just a guess.
If all else fail you could always try U,D,U,D,L,R,L,R,B,A,B,A,Start --Gretchin 16:46, 1 April 2007 (BST)
You attack the Cow.
This Doom Wand is unlicensed, and will be deleted shortly.

Azuaron 23:04, 1 April 2007 (BST)

ok, attacked a second time and got:

Please download the latest firmware to continue.

3rd time:

Your Doom Wand is currently 1% charged. Please replace the power crystal

Duke Sparrow 23:05, 1 April 2007 (BST)

Given they dropped from the rubber duckies, any chance they are a reference to www.sjgames.com/munchkin/game/img/Munchcard3.jpg (I took off the http so it wouldn't display the image here)? Has anyone had a doom wand drop from a non-duckie? :) Rhapsodie 08:19, 2 April 2007 (BST)
I just figured one of the Great Lords had some trouble installing Doom 3 :-) -- Thog 20:36, 2 April 2007 (BST)
I assume somebody has investigated that Power Crystal response? Probably a red herring, but it's worth a look. Doc Mackie02:56, 6 April 2007 (BST)
i don't have a power crystal... duke Sparrow MD
Didn't bring any options up, and I possess and have selected one of each to make sure. Do you suppose, if we ever get it working, it'll accept custom .WAND levels? Doc Mackie 07:56, 6 April 2007 (BST)

rubber duckies

i'm surrounded by rubber duckies... ??

Elseware is a big fan of rubber duckies. (Also, check the date.) --Dragon 04:27, 1 April 2007 (BST)
Don't forget this. Darksatanic 04:42, 1 April 2007 (BST)
Basically, all monsters (aside from worms and rabbits thus far) now have the "Rubber Duckie" name. Watch what you attack :) Armourer Sy
It's all monsters except those with variable names. Look in a Tarot Deck, or on the kill tables. --Dragon 04:38, 1 April 2007 (BST)

I just got this message "You attack the Rubber Duckie. You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience. The emissary whispers: 'The horrors are beneath us now.' The emissary vanishes!" -King1216

It's jsut a renamed Emissary. I managed to get a sorting office pass out of something that had 10HP, have the drops changed/increased at all? --Gabor Kiss 06:42, 1 April 2007 (BST)
Cows are not ducks (because they can also be Kittens, I'm guessing.) Azuaron 12:48, 1 April 2007 (BST)
I really must say that that is a fantastic bit of reasoning when read out of context.Copperisblue 19:59, 10 April 2007 (BST)

Flying Spaghetti monster

i've just come across this... thing(Flying Spaghetti monster)... and it has 1,000 hp, 10 dmg per attack. o damage for glass swords and forks. Duke Sparrow

Where at? Azuaron 12:39, 27 March 2007 (BST)

i can't quite remember, but its about 9-12 north.... and about 3 squares east of the thieves forest. Duke Sparrow.

There's one currently at 99E 21S, in the Great Desert. Has anyone tried putting on a Pirate Hat and attacking one? - Duke Scary Mike 11:54, 27 March 2007 (GMT)
why a pirate hat?
This [8] clearly shows the relation of pirates and global warming, which is obviously caused by the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Flt 13:47, 27 March 2007 (BST)
Righteously spoken Brother Flt! Additionally, per the tenets of the FSM, Pirates are beings of profound divinity and are the true and original Pastafarians: [9] - Duke Scary Mike 13:00, 27 March 2007 (GMT)
I didnt use a Pirate Hat, but I did bag the one in the desert. Dropped 9 servings of Pasta, a Degree of Enlightenment and some other goodies. Can't recall what they were now though. -Jon 16:58, 27 March 2007 (BST)
Garlic. They also drop garlic. hendsch 17:05, 27 March 2007 (BST)
What did you use to damage it?
As an aside this is probably related to some website that a guy in the states setup where he has a religion based around flying spaghetti monsters on the basis that if the deesp South will teach evolution then they have to teach about spaghetti monsters as its equally valid (ie written down with no scientific proof other than belief). Someone less lazy then me could google it and find the site - some of the letters to the school boards make amusing reading Havelock 08:24, 28 March 2007 (BST)
[Venganza] - 11:59, 28 March 2007 (BST)
Havelock, unless I'm reading you wrong you're part-way there. The guy set the site up in response to the theory of intelligent design being taught in schools, not evolution. IE: your god is Catholic? Mine is a Spaghetti Monster. Teach that too. Or something to that degree. Zingus 19:34, 28 March 2007 (BST)
So does this mean we can expect Beer Volcanoes to show up soon? -- Thog 20:21, 28 March 2007 (BST)
...and stripper factories? - Duke Scary Mike 20:17, 28 March 2007 (GMT)
If so, probably in Cloud Land or the Astral Plane. Flt 21:40, 28 March 2007 (BST)
A bit off topic, but "Astral Stripper Factory" would be an awesome band name. - Duke Scary Mike 11:30, 29 March 2007 (GMT)
So if cities is gonna have a Flying Spaghetti Monster, I demand tha cities also has God and Jesus, just to be ironical. Sir Garry 14:46, 29 March 2007 (BST)
What about Muhammad and Moses? Buddha? Shiva? Actually, I think Cities should stick with the more ridiculous ones. What about things from Scientology? I think aliens are involved... Azuaron 15:23, 29 March 2007 (BST)
yes! all hail xenu! Tulk
I don't see how FSM is any less ridiculous than those other deities. :D Gonzometro 02:42, 30 March 2007 (BST)
Nah, a flying spaghetti monster is blatantly more ludicrous than a human who, in discerning the oneness of all things, found an escape from a questionably documented cycle of death and rebirth. Or so this militant agnostic has figured out from basic Buddhism, which is probably about as similar to modern Buddhisms as original Christian words are to modern Christianities.
Other than that, well... eh. The absurdities of religion abound. Doc Mackie 10:35, 30 March 2007 (BST)
The Flying Spaghetti Monster can be hurt by bread. Details on the monsters page. Ravensdance 14:52, 6 April 2007 (BST)

Lots of blurry people

At 0W 0S there's "Lots of People". However, hovering over the text only shows me commas. Apart from the obvious explanation that they're all comatose, what do you think is happening here? vloodo 17:17, 26 March 2007 (BST)

I'm able to heal them oddly enough. Emelie 21:33, 26 March 2007 (BST)

Lots of people hanging out at 0E 0N as well. Perhaps its a gathering of the Cabal. There is no Cabal. - Kressida 23:16, 2 April 2007 (BST)

Ex-President Clinton

It seems that the only insurgent to escape was Ex-President Clinton? Naturally, we can assume this is a pseudonym of some kind. But who is he? Where is he? Do you love him so much you couldn't shoot him and would have to fire your wand in the air and go 'aaargh' instead?


This just happened!:
You attack 'King Elseware.
You cause 5000 points of damage, and receive 50000 experience.
You lose a Glass Sword.
Your glass sword shatters!
You fail.
Great Lord Ruthven attacks you using Rock (Galena).
They miss.
You gain a Fire Bow.
Great Lord harvey MD attacks you using Moon On A Stick.
Great Lord harvey MD has mooned you!
You fail.
Apprentice Ignatz attacks you using Summon Stone.
They cause 2 points of damage.
You gain a Sextant.
Great Lord Yendor attacks you using Fists.
They cause 1 points of damage.

The Great Lords and 'King are now in the Thieves Forest at 7W 2N! COME AND STEAL STUFF FROM THEM! ""BUNDLE!""

Don't steal from the 'King! He's too well armed! First and brave victim: Ex-president Reagan.
You gain 61 Stones. 
'King Elseware attacks you using Cruel Death Wand. 
You are hit by a death ray. That sucks. 
You have died.
This was a noble death, in a good cause. You will be remembered! A moment's silence, please, for the daring ex-president Reagan.
You throw a snowball at 'King Elseware!
You lose a Snowball.
Now using Fists.
Great Lord Ruthven has stolen from you!
You lose 6 Fire Wands.
You attack Great Lord Ruthven.
You cause 5000 points of damage, and receive 50000 experience.
You lose a Glass Sword.
Your glass sword shatters!
Great Lord Ruthven has stolen from you!
You lose a Become Air Spell.
You attack Great Lord Ruthven.
You cause 5000 points of damage, and receive 50000 experience.
You lose a Glass Sword.
Your glass sword shatters!
Now using Vorpal Blade.

To The King! The King and the Council of Great Lords are under siege. A furious battle rages around them between royalist forces and the anarchists. Armed with my tank, I braved the horde and attempted to save the 'King. Finding the 'King surrounded, I covered the area in darkness and sent an image of a huge bat into the sky in a magical display to summon aid. This at the same time thwarted further attempted thefts on the very person of the 'King. But the anarchists countered with time warps which countered my magics. I have done all I can, my last energy was spent preparing a mighty healing spell, now I can only watch. God save the 'King. -HBookbinder

Even though this revolution may be doomed to fail, we have taken a total of 15,000hp points from the Opressors! Such a feat has never been attained before!

You may get stabbed in the head
With a dagger or a sword
You may be burned to death
Or skinned alive, or worse
But when they torture you
You will not feel the need to run
For, though you die, La Resistance lives on
They may cut your dick in half
And serve it to a pig
And though it hurts, you'll laugh
And dance a dickless jig
But that's the way it goes
And though we're shat upon
Though we die, La Resistance lives oooooonnnnn!


The 'King is dead. Long live the 'King.
You gain a Pouch of Magic Herb.
Apprentice Ignatz attacks you using Summon Stone.
They cause 2 points of damage.
You gain a Catana.
Great Lord harvey MD attacks you using Moon On A Stick.
Great Lord harvey MD has mooned you!

There is no Cabal. The Ex-Presidents are not the Cabal. The Ex-Presidents know who the Cabal are. The Cabal will be the next targets. Listen to the Emissary. Believe Fortune Cookies. These events did not go unforetold. Seek the prophecy. Destroy the Cabal. There is no Cabal.

the free aprentice

i shall learn from stien. i am now the free aprentice and will hearby give out a different wiz fruit every week to some lucky people at... no cost, heres the page to right your name for this weeks fruit [[10]]. the only thing could use is a peeve or hate but thats all and i realy dont need it but its a deadly one. rare fruit of the week: pineapple bobtheslayer 23:12, 23 March 2007 (GMT) hey not anymore sorry folks

Rhapsodie's Song

Heard today at the Tubthumper party:

Duke Rhapsodie MD says 'Whilst wandering through the desert as I am wont to do
I came upon a gentleman, though I recall not who
He wore upon his shiny head a crown of jewels and gold.
I saw it gleam, my fingers twitched, and then that crown I stole!
I ran into the sandy wastes; from there adventured wide:
Fiery swamps and mountain peaks – and everywhere I’d hide
Fearing that someone would come and then treat me the same!
I grew quite fond of my new crown; I wished it bore my name.
And then one day another came, a fellow called Melchitt.
He saw, he twitched, he stole my crown, the naughty little sh-'

I hear it's autobiographical. Let us all give congratulations, perhaps even kudos, for writing such a delightful little piece of music. Doc Mackie 14:38, 19 March 2007 (GMT)

Very nice. I think that fellow in the desert might have been me... vloodo 14:50, 25 March 2007 (BST)

Hehe, whoops! >.< Rhapsodie 14:21, 30 March 2007 (BST)
As the eponymous ‘naughtly little sh-‘
I do not apologise
Not one little bit!
The Crown gave me a great discount
At the blank talisman shop
And an AP bonus (of a significant amount)
Karma being karma though
The Crown has gone from me
So onwards we must go
Duke Rhapsodie
Melchitt 0:24, 11 April 2007 (Game time)

Editing of Current Events and Conversation Pages

If this edit war goes on for much longer, I'll ban *everyone* involved. Please sort out your differences *off* these two pages first, instead of simply reverting each others changes. Darksatanic 18:11, 17 March 2007 (GMT)

I have been trying....little to no response....Billz8 18:19, 17 March 2007 (GMT)
there's been an edit war? Zoological

Site Down for Technical Difficulties

Got that message when I tried to sign in just now. Anyone know what's going on? Jeryn 02:57, 17 March 2007 (GMT)Jeryn-Keller

The DB isn't playing nice with other servers. From what's been said on IRC, it isn't a huge problem, but elseware's the only one who can fix it and he's probably asleep right now. Personally, I'd expect it to be back tomorrow. Enjoy the webcomics... --Dragon 05:09, 17 March 2007 (GMT)
Thanks much for the info. If it's back tomorrow, that's not a big deal. But right after everything got fixed before, I moved, so I couldn't play again til today :( Jeryn 05:56, 17 March 2007 (GMT)

Auctioning my Goldfish

I've had great fun with my Goldfish so far. However, being merely a labrat character who is about to undergo certain bizarre and long winded procedures of sorts, I shall not have the time to take care of my beloved pet anymore. I'm also short on cash!!

Tina Turner: has 18 XP, is 11 weeks old (and not evil at all).
Flake Shaker + 100 or so Shaky Flakes included.

Starting bid: 20k gp.
Bidding ends at midnight.
Buy it now at 30k gp.

UPDATE: This auction is dead, instead there are raffle tickets sold at the current party (10 tickets, 2k GP each). -- CoffeeJunkie

WOO UPDATE: All the raffle tickets have been sold!! I now await for all the participants to be at the party, so I can draw the raffle publicly. -- Sincerely yours, CoffeeJunkie

FINAL UPDATE: Well, the raffle has just been drawn, here is the log for those who missed it:

*Drums rattle all over*
Esteemed raffle participants, before I draw the raffle, I would like to thank all of you for your  profound enthusiasm (cash). 
I wish the best of luck to all of you. And I hope that whomever wins my Goldfish, shall take good care of it... Or  not, it's really up to you!!
*Kisses Tina Turner one last and puts her in the Trading Bag*
"These bags aren't meant for animals." Okay, forget the bag...
Alright, here goes:
You roll: 1
Gretchin, I see you have the Ticket with a '1' on it, Congratulations :)
Cheers to all the other participants. Better luck next time :)


so, what on earth am i meant to be doing with these? i've got around 70-odd now. Zoological << too lazy to sign in.


You release a cloud of spores

Has anyone got this message ? I would like to point that I am not stinky, have not bathed in strange places recently, nor am a vegetable--Solune 10:12, 10 March 2007 (GMT)

did you try casting fungal spray by any chance? Spugmeistress 14:14, 10 March 2007 (GMT)
I got the same message today as well (not casting anything or doing anything peculiar otherwise). --Bubba_the_Shy 14:17, 10 March 2007 (GMT)
There was a bug in the code (the same as the one in the Nightin* spells), and Elseware just fixed it. What you saw was probably a pre-fix test. Darksatanic 16:01, 10 March 2007 (GMT)
I was testing unknown spells at the part square. I think everyone got fungal sprayed, but everyone got a Nightingstorm as well. Sorry about that. (Why would vegetables release spores?) HBookbinder
Besides Mushrooms,Ferns reproduce by means of spores. Dendrast 02:51, 19 March 2007 (GMT)

Justice in Cities?

In light of recent events, the GLs are supporting the idea of an official player-run justice system. Give your suggestions on what it should be on the Justice page. PotatoEngineer 22:40, 9 March 2007 (GMT)

*brain siezes up. pause.* Okaaaaay, I guess I'm game. Doc Mackie 23:48, 9 March 2007 (GMT)

Farm Supplies Shop in Kansas

That's about all I know really. I don't have a GPS - I think it's SE of the Moustache bar and it doesn't give me any options when I stand on it. Apologies if it's been there all along and this is just the first time I spotted it. Platypus

About eight squares south, eight squares west of the initial house. You can buy Goose Eggs there if you have a Pet License. Random4518 20:03, 6 March 2007 (GMT)
If there's only one store, I knew about it already. If not, this might be news to me. Either way, the goose eggs are news. :) Doc Mackie 21:06, 6 March 2007 (GMT)

You gain a chit

I just gained a chit. Is it redeemable for something? Theendisnigh 15:56, 6 March 2007 (GMT)

Per IRC, they were given to mark the people affected by the password problems, and are sticky. They will probably be redeemable for something nice once people can log in again. --Dragon 16:48, 6 March 2007 (GMT)
Maybe it will mean that you voted?
Wow. That truly is service. I feel the coding team are in danger of engendering (and fostering) the feeling in some players that cities owes them something. Thank you for all the hard work. My chit is simply having cake, and being given more cake. Mmm cake. Theendisnigh 17:16, 6 March 2007 (GMT)

So I guess if the PW were stored on the first backup, we dont get Chit...Spacer one 20:49, 7 March 2007 (GMT)

Correct -- we got those back within a couple of hours (and that affected everyone). It's only the accounts that were disabled for a week that get the chit. Darksatanic 21:01, 7 March 2007 (GMT)
But elseware is busy, so will make the chits redeemable later. There'll be like a mini version of the present. Probably to the tune of about 500AP or a new item I'm planning.

Chits are now redeemable. Choice of gold, AP or a Pwny. Thanks 'Elseware, daddy never bought me a pony, so this rights many childhood wrongs. Cheaper than therapy. Jennyann 21:17, 25 March 2007 (BST)

who else now has the 'my little pony' jingle going round their head? spugmistress loves her pwny vala to bits :D p.s. it's 1000ap or 20,000 gold. but a pwny is more than worth it!

My passwords don't work!

Is it just me? I logged in this morning, and now I can't. I typically use Firefox to store my passwords, but even manually entering them doesn't work. I did check my CAPS locks key. Fritz

It's not just you, see here --smudgepuss 17:06, 27 February 2007 (GMT)
And Logging in problems, with discussion at Talk:Logging in problems. Darksatanic 18:53, 27 February 2007 (GMT)

password emergency plans


Please don't sign up any more. You all have gone to limbo by now. There, you are unsummonable, and if I try to summon you I loose AP for the summon, and for getting to holiday island first, for nothing. Sorry. But remember, the king did promise to compensate you. So please don't give up on the game and keep checking the wiki. -Eusebia

I'm willing to summon people to holiday island as long as i have summon stones.
Want a summon? insert your character name below, and only one per user for now, and please return the summon stones when you get a chance.

  • Wex Rex needs a summons and would be most appreciative. - summoned
  • txeroki - summoned
  • Sparrow - summoned
  • If its not back up by 20:00 GMT, I'd love a summon. If I could log in, I'd assist with the cause. Phw 10:02, 28 February 2007 (GMT) - summoned
  • Chlamydia 11:53, 28 February 2007 (GMT) I promise I won't pass on anything nasty......:) - summoned
  • Sir Garry I believe I'm getting close to my Max... -summoned
  • JMGK - summoned
  • I must me maxed out by now, please summon me to holiday island. --Merchant 21:36, 28 February 2007 (GMT) - summoned
  • Kitoushi would appreciate a summons (as long as its not for jury duty :P) - summoned
  • Awww... rubbish. It logged me out. If you have any spare stones, a summon would be much appreciated! Murky buckets. Stoo 10:00, 1 March 2007 (GMT) - summoned
  • Nadroj please, if you've got any stone left. Thanks - summoned
  • Duke KGMJ MD, if you can... I was hoping the problem would be solved fast, but seens not... Thanks very much - summoned
  • Duke Rhapsodie MD as well, if possible. Might as well take advantage of the enforced holiday sporting on a beach on an island somewhere! :) - summoned
  • baron i am death and bobtheslayer the all mighty 14:38, 2 March 2007 (GMT) to holiday island they both got stuck even though it was unuasl for it to happen to bobtheslayer -summoned/summoned thank you. thank you berry much
  • flt and Rockefellow. I promise a free piece of armour to the kind summoner Flt 16:31, 2 March 2007 (GMT) -summoned/summoned
  • Duke Sir Kali MD would very much appreciate a summon - I promise you a wondorous shiny gift in return. Thanks in advance --Kali 17:43, 2 March 2007 (GMT) -summoned Great, thanks, when I can get back in I'll send you something sparkly --Kali 17:30, 3 March 2007 (GMT) that was not me, i think it was hendsch -Eusebia
  • havelock will pay his dues if summoned Havelock2 11:02, 3 March 2007 (GMT)- summoned
  • spugmistress would appreciate a summon if possible, ta :) Spugmeistress 12:57, 3 March 2007 (GMT) -summoned
  • heyus2 could use a summon if I'm not already in limbo. Thanks! - Heyus2 06:54, 5 March 2007 (GMT) - summoned
  • Lataash would love one please! - summoned
  • Dogsbody would love it too! Kudos every day for as long as I can remember! -summoned
  • Chlamydia 14:11, 5 March 2007 (GMT) Would love another summon, I had to log out and can't get back in again - summoned

want to donate summon stones for the good cause? come to the rading post at brighthelm (pavilion=, or tell me to summon you there. Palantir me ingame or also sign below, so that i know and can go there to meet/summon you. thanks in advance.

Eusebia 23:26, 27 February 2007 (GMT)

Cure Poison

I now have the option to cure poison in others (well I assume it's poison). Curing costs 10 AP and uses a dose of antidone. Part of the reward for the blue flowers quest? Not very efficient at a party where you could just hand them the antidote and cure two poison levels. hendsch 13:37, 16 February 2007 (GMT)

I just tested this out on the good Duke Jon. It must be part of the Blue Flowers quest, but I'm pretty sure that it only cured one level of poison. The number next to his name decreased from 3 to 2. Not very efficient at all. --JAD 13:51, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
But, can you cure your own poison? And, if not, where there be a way to cure your own poison in the future? 16:48, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
You can cure your own poison by drinking the antidote yourself... --Dragon 17:04, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
Per conversation in IRC this evening, that has been corrected (it now cures 2 levels), and there is a 2-level quest involving curing 25 and then 50 people. --BlaisedeC 06:41, 18 February 2007 (GMT)
Oooooh. Poison is my greatest foe; I hates it, I does. I'll have to look into this quest. Doc Mackie 19:49, 20 February 2007 (GMT)
Along these lines, if you're poisoned, stop by the party. I'd be happy to cure you, and I'm sure there are others here who would as well. --Dragon 07:56, 21 February 2007 (GMT)

Mysterious Green X

I'm not sure if this is a very strange bug or something new. If it's a bug, I'll move it to the right page. But:


What is this? It's not kudos, and mousehover gives nothing. --Dragon 08:59, 16 February 2007 (GMT)

I have no X. Maybe it's something special for those of us with over 750 million experience points. :) --JAD 14:08, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
Heh. Actually, given the above discussion, I suspect it's an indication of my poison level (which was 1 at the time--and someone cured me, and now the X is gone), and would be visible to anyone who had done the Blue Flowers quest. --Dragon 17:04, 16 February 2007 (GMT)

New twist: Kaos Dragon recently had something green under his name as well. It said [STINKY!]. I didn't see him under the "cure" option either, so maybe it's not poison-related. Maybe, on the other hand, it's comething completely different. --JAD 23:53, 17 February 2007 (GMT)

Non-goldfish pets now generate poop. Which can be thrown at people. Which makes them stinky. No, I'm not making this up. --Dragon 01:22, 18 February 2007 (GMT)
That's pretty cruel. Doc Mackie 20:47, 21 February 2007 (GMT)
I threw a snowball at the 'King. Apparently he felt this insult worthy of a piece of crap thrown in return, instead of a snowball.

I tried throwing some poop at GL Andrew, but I missed like 2 times. I asked him about it, and he said some hocus-pocus about the GL's "mystical powers." Then I tried to throw 4 snowballs at him, (one after the other,) and I missed every time! q_ali01 17:44, 25 Aug, 2007 (EST)


As far as I can tell, here is a list of unresolved quandaries. Please feel free to add to this list if you think of any more. Also, feel free to chime in if you know the answer. --JAD 08:05, 16 February 2007 (GMT)

  1. What do time warps do?
    It does, in fact, make monsters spawn as if two days had passed. (The Gorgan wasn't spawning initially due to an unrelated bug.) --Dragon 08:51, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
  2. Is there an way to kill head hunters in one blow?
    Uh, certainly--just get something that deals at least 2420 damage (since they take 1/10 damage). I don't know if there's a special "instakill" mechanism, although I personally doubt it. --Dragon 08:51, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
    Monsters#Oz_Interior seems to reckon otherwise... Spugmeistress 20:53, 18 February 2007 (GMT)
    All I see there is that headhunters, themselves, are an in-joke (based on the Front 242 song). One person asked about an in-joke way to kill them, but that doesn't mean there is one. People have tried the logical ways (T-shirt, Eggs (from the video for the song),...) and nothing has yet worked. --Dragon 21:24, 18 February 2007 (GMT)
    Monsters paged changed to reflect current status of headhunter abilities. Gonzometro 22:01, 18 February 2007 (GMT)
    There's also a comment about hitting one with a glass sword -- which only did 24 damage. Darksatanic 21:53, 18 February 2007 (GMT)
    That was a midas wand, I believe. ISTR glass swords killing them (although it's something of a waste). --Dragon 22:57, 18 February 2007 (GMT)
  3. Is there a weapon that is not subject to the 1/30 damage penalty on a dimensional shambler?
    I know of none. My vague recollections of IRC conversations at the time were that this is a Lovecraft reference, and that Lovecraftian monsters don't really have weaknesses... -Dragon 08:51, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
  4. Where can one set up a pentacle, and what does it do?
    Ask hendsch. (These are brand new, so I don't expect them to have much info yet.)  :)--Dragon 08:51, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
    I haven't checked extensively, but you seem to be able to set them up on plains squares at least. When you do you get the option to name it and activate it for 100 AP. I assume it will be a terrain modifier. I strongly suspect it allows you to cast spells without the cocasting item and store spells if you've completed the Trail of Trials. Experimentation will commence once I've transcribed a couple of key spells, and have a large enough pile of mana and AP (in case it's a timed effect).hendsch 15:16, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
  5. What is a victory point?
  6. Regarding pets: What makes a goldfish evil? How does one obtain a kittin?
    There are two kittins in the game I know of. Vashka's was a one-time wedding gift. Nuru nuru's was cruelly abandoned in the Earth City dump. But from recent IRC conversations I would expect a lot more pet-related stuff to appear soonish. --Dragon 08:51, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
    Soonish has happened. Look for new stuff in the Pets page--Solune 22:19, 18 February 2007 (GMT)
  7. How does one gain access to Ignatz' Pool?
    Muahahaha! Let me tell you, Ignatz's Pool is some good chilling.  :) --Dragon 08:51, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
    Try stuffing some benjies in Ignatz's pants. :P Gonzometro 22:01, 18 February 2007 (GMT)
  8. Other than totems, is there any use for an issue?
    None I know of. --Dragon 08:51, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
    Can be fed to Peeves (Hatched Annoyances) Zingus 17:48, 20 February 2007 (GMT)
  9. Can one level up a daemonic chainsaw? Note that there are only two known monsters in the game with a million or more HP.
    Three, IIRC. Two are unkillable and the third is not killable through normal (DCS) means. So, no. --Dragon 08:51, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
    By the way, Mr Balrog currently has 99...921 hit point, was it always so or did someone hurt him?--Solune 09:47, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
    It was always like this. --Dragon 17:04, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
    Demonic chainsaw chucks per IRC. 2*DCS + chain.--naath 02:11, 18 February 2007 (GMT)
    Those don't follow the normal upgrade pattern, though, and they were just coded an hour and a half ago.  :) --Dragon 03:02, 18 February 2007 (GMT)
    Although, with enough HP, AP and in a remote location, one could upgrade a phoenix above 1 mil hp. Unlikely, but possible (I suppose) Syagrius 02:09, 19 February 2007 (GMT)
    Oops, it seems I forgot about our good friend Glam. Anyway, I don't think these upgrade on leveled-up phoenices. I killed a level 10 with a dagger and nothing happened...Has this changed? Either way, I eagerly await news of your slaughter of a lvl 100000 phoenix. :) --JAD 02:21, 19 February 2007 (GMT)
    Er, four and three, I guess. Balrog, Thunderchild, Glamdrink Sucks!, and Vorder Men. --Dragon 04:08, 19 February 2007 (GMT)
You miss. 
The phoenix does 100000 damage. 
The phoenix kills you. 
You have died. Luckily, ...
Of course, now that those words have been uttered out loud, it is only a matter of time before someone actually does it. It's like tempting fate, only with Cities players instead of metaphysical forces. -Scrumbucket 02:38, 19 February 2007 (GMT)
Given the amount of AP involved, I'm thinking it's pretty much impossible. It is possible to farm a million-HP hydra, but I think JAD is correct that daemonic weapons work based on the initial HP of a monster, so it wouldn't work anyway. --Dragon 04:08, 19 February 2007 (GMT)
  1. What causes Angry Bows to upgrade?
    The best guess so far is that it's random on a per-attack basis, or possibly a per-kill basis (or even a per-attack-set basis, to avoid breaking up a string of attacks). The odds are pretty low, anyway. PotatoEngineer 10:36, 17 February 2007 (GMT)
    Update: looks like it's a per-attack randomness. I got an angry bow to upgrade in the middle of a string of attacks. It didn't even finish the set of attacks it was on. PotatoEngineer 02:00, 1 March 2007 (GMT)
  2. What is the Cabal?
    There is no cabal.
    Maybe someone should form one then, just to confuse matters. PlanetNiles 10:24, 17 February 2007 (GMT)

Golden Condor Tracking

I haven't seen the Condor in a while, and fear that Sert has stolen it once again. As a result, I have started a Golden Condor Tracking System. This system will allow Condor users to indicate where they leave the transport, allowing others to use it when needed. There is also a Condor request list in case anyone wants to use the transport for a quest or two. Hopefully this will encourage people to share the Condor so that we can all benefit from this wonderful discovery. --JAD 17:01, 14 February 2007 (GMT)

It's worth noting that there's a control room in the City Of Gold and Lead. If the Condor is gone long enough, someone could climb up there and drive it back to someplace accessible....

... or one of us with a Golden Condor Talisman could just talisman in and steal it back :-) -- Thog 17:43, 14 February 2007 (GMT)

It is no longer possible to enchant Golden Condor talismen, cherish the ones you have.
The ones we have no longer work anyway :(
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Thog 14:22, 15 February 2007 (GMT)

Next Party

The theme of the last party was drugs. The theme of the current party is sex. Therefore the next party will be Roll and Rock. Drugs, sex, and Roll and Rock! Woo hoo! (That's not how the expression goes? Shut up.)

Where did you get that st Valentine is about sex ? On the contrary it's all about romantism and you perverts know nothing about love -- the feminine part of Solune 19:23, 14 February 2007 (GMT)

Since the last parties have been hard to reach, this one'll be in immemorial park, next to the earth city shrine (96, 4). Party favors will be given to the first 140 or so participants. hendsch 15:51, 14 February 2007 (GMT)

Pet Cemetary

is this new? it's to the south of the fire city cemetary

Yes, it's new. Nothing to do there (yet). Looks like that's gonna change soon Flt 09:53, 14 February 2007 (GMT)
There's only one thing better than a pet goldfish.........a pet ZAMBAH goldfish! Droll 16:46, 14 February 2007 (GMT)
Looks like it's a dump for Pets. You can drop them off or pick them up. Presumably anybody could take your pet if you left it there. Droll 18:38, 15 February 2007 (GMT)
If don't want your pet anymore, could I suggest using the Lucky Smells Goldfish Kennels to try and rehome them before leaving them to fate? Similarly, if you do not want your pet to end up in the cemetary, take advantage of our pet sitting services! Spugmeistress 15:49, 16 February 2007 (GMT)

Gorgon Poaching...

While I was battling the Gorgon, I ran out of AP. When I returned to finish her off, someone had taken advantage of my hard work and killed her his or herself. I realize that it took me longer than expected to kill her, but it's very rude to come along and poach like that. Cost me a glass sword too. Fabbofred 02:20, 14 February 2007 (GMT)

Yup, that happens. I had two Undead Dragons stolen from me before I final beat it. That's just the way cities is. Sir Garry 03:04, 14 February 2007 (GMT)
There should be a way to punish such miscreants. Fabbofred 03:43, 14 February 2007 (GMT)
Using a dibs wand can tell you who killed your dibs. --Qazxcv 04:19, 14 February 2007 (GMT)
Perhaps we need a booby trap which you can use on critters you are working, or perhaps your planted field. Someone tries to poach and KABOOM! Fabbofred 18:46, 14 February 2007 (GMT)
That's too exploitable, even by my standards. Jerks would just go around booby trapping all the quest monsters just to hurt anyone that's trying to do it. Kaos Dragon 02:27, 15 February 2007 (GMT)
What sort of a jerk would do that, KD? 8) Droll 18:40, 15 February 2007 (GMT)
Maybe if the trap is clearly visible and fades off after a while--Solune 22:31, 15 February 2007 (GMT)

Anti-Poaching/Anti-Pain Measures

Not that anybody deserves to be poached from (the behaviour's kinda crass), but why are y'all attacking Undead Dragons and Gorgans with anything short of Midas Wands? Especially in the case of the Undead Dragon, that seems kinda stupid. Doc Mackie 23:17, 15 February 2007 (GMT)

I agree with the good doctor on this one. It's nice to check a monster's HP and make sure you don't steal half-dead monsters, but not everyone who plays this game is nice. Killing an UD with 100HP is a bad thing to do, but it is a possibility for those around us who aren't quite as kind. When I kill anything with 10,000HP or more, I use a golden gun or alignment with a glass sword or two. In the case of the UD, the Midas Wand is really the only viable option. Killing large monsters quickly is the only sure-fire way to avoid jackasses stealing your kills. If you don't have the gold or the weapons, go kill some smaller stuff or do some other quests. All quests that require a monster kill can be finished in a few AP, given the right equipment. Be patient, and don't start killing something unless you know you can finish. Trust me, preparation makes this game infinitely easier. --JAD 00:26, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
Also, Lances are your friend. You can take down the UD with 15 AP (assuming you never miss and you have a lot of Lances). This is what I did, since using the Midas Wand seems like borderline cheating to me... Azuaron 01:16, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
And don't forget a vorpal blade, that's how I kill the Giant and the Gorgan... Sir Garry 03:43, 16 February 2007 (GMT)
I did not want to use my Midas Wand on the Gorgon because I was afraid that turning her to gold would mean that I would not get her head, and I never want to risk blowing a chance for head.Fabbofred 17:01, 19 February 2007 (GMT)
The Midas Wand still returns a head from the Gorgan. Personally, I think it's vastly more questionable to fight the Undead Dragon without a Midas Wand. Doc Mackie 21:59, 24 February 2007 (GMT)
Midas Wand? Never seen one of those myself. If I remember right, my UD experience involved lances, bows, bandages and a measure or 3 of serenity. With enough clean bandages and serenity measures, you can kill almost anything i think. --AmishRobots 09:01, 27 February 2007 (GMT)
Bandages? Ugh. I can't even remember last time I used those. If you've got any extra HP (100+), you're better off with a Dragon Stone... oh. Right. I suppose you've got to actually kill the UD before you can use the stone it drops. Seriously though, Doc Mackie's right. There is no reason to use anything but a Midas Wand when permanent stats are at risk. Then again, I don't see the point of dragon blood abuse either, so whatever floats your boat. :) -Scrumbucket 09:36, 27 February 2007 (GMT)
Actually, if you buy a Dragon Stone off the market or in Brighthelm, you can use it without having killed the Undead Dragon. Random4518 11:52, 27 February 2007 (GMT)

Server Offline...

The server went away on holiday... it left no forwarding address, and it took us a while to track it down... Eruantion (Earth) Leave a Message! 23:09, 10 February 2007 (GMT)

Bebe goggles, I take it? (There's a similar, but slightly different, screen that is used for 'king fiddling time. Elseware is in the middle, and one of the monsters--which is friendly--is SVN...it's apparently very easy for him to bypass SVN.  :) ) --Dragon 23:16, 10 February 2007 (GMT)
Bebestyler. I haven't seen a 'king fiddling time one before - ought to play a bit more often. Eruantion (Earth) Leave a Message! 10:01, 11 February 2007 (GMT)

Moo Moo

A new island has been discovered. It carries the peaceful name of one of the founders or some godess or stuff: Moo Moo. Some people [11] live there with their cattle. Flt 00:26, 10 February 2007 (GMT)

Where!?!?!?!?! --Qazxcv 00:42, 10 February 2007 (GMT)
West of the Isle of the Gorgan. There's a beach at 19E 70S. This entire land is a bad pun...(although now I understand the ice cream van message!) --Dragon 05:51, 10 February 2007 (GMT)
At 15e 73s There is a new quest open called "Trial of Trails" It costs 50 ap to enter, and says I quote "The Ancients of moo-moo will teach old wizards new tricks, but they have set up the Trail of Trials which you'll have to get through first. They got the idea from the Fire City Gauntlet but the trials are described as "Bastard-hard"." This is of course created it seems to be like the blue prince quest. -Stien 17:14, 10 February 2007 (GMT)
The first room is a 3x3 Dark, and has a teleporter to the next stage, but when you step on it, nothing happens. I recommend a light source before you enter this place. -Markous 17:21, 10 February 2007 (GMT)
Isn't Moo Moo sitting right on top of where the Lost Island used to be? - Isambard 01:37, 11 February 2007 (GMT)
Yes, it is. The Lost Island still rises and sinks as normal (except now it's got Cows on it...). I brought this up on IRC and the GLs said that Moo Moo might end up being moved. --Dragon 02:06, 11 February 2007 (GMT)
It has been moved. It's now 6 steps further south. hendsch 21:01, 12 February 2007 (GMT)
Moo Mooved :) Moj 13:18, 13 February 2007 (GMT)

Darksatanic Survey

... will be down until further notice. My ISP is being a bastard (that's why I'm not on IRC at the moment, too). Darksatanic 19:39, 8 February 2007 (GMT)

It's back, but I'm still without a functional email service. Ah well. Darksatanic 11:34, 9 February 2007 (GMT)
Welcome in the club my inet dooesn't work at all and the provider's support doesn't work at weekends Eusebia 10:20, 10 February 2007 (GMT)

Current Party

For anyone who does not yet know: As stated below, I am currently hosting the Festival of Booze. It is located at 80E 52S. There are a wide variety of activities planned, which include:

how?!! will no one tell me?
Maybe if you'd signed your post :-)

So if you get a chance, come down to Ignatz' Retreat. You won't regret it. --JAD 18:37, 5 February 2007 (GMT)

The Golden Condor is currently chilling out in Ignatz's Pool. Gonzometro 22:49, 5 February 2007 (GMT)
This is a really great party!

Possible Swords

I tried out my possible sword today. I must say it is quite a nice weapon. Just as nice as a Merz Bow, but does not use arrows, and mine lasted quite a while. After besting 14 aligned Mudmen (182 attacks), I ventured down into the NW tunnels where I proceeded to go on a longer killing spree. It must have lasted for about 300AP worth of attacks before finally wearing out. Here is the message.

You attack the Huge Mutant Fire Fox.
You cause 20 points of damage, and receive 160 experience.
Your sword seems more probable.
You lose a Possible Sword.
You gain a Sharp Sword.
The Huge Mutant Fire Fox attacks 2 times.
The Huge Mutant Fire Fox causes 8 points of damage.
The Huge Mutant Fire Fox causes 8 points of damage.
Now using Fists.

Please help me out by posting your own reactions to this spectaclar weapon here as well. Particularly if anyone figures out how to make it into a "definite sword" or something else better. --JAD 18:54, 3 February 2007 (GMT)

Ah, I knew I knew the name... Possible Swords are from China Mieville's The Scar. While an excellent read, mind, it's not in the same league as his Perdido Street Station. Andrewsi 19:15, 3 February 2007 (GMT)
It's actually better then the Merz bow in that it only uses 1AP to attack 10 times. And no that's not a bug. Kaos Dragon 20:15, 3 February 2007 (GMT)
Oh, I feel dumb now because I didn't even notice. I guess it was only 28 attacks then. Oh well. That's even better. I still want to know if I can upgrade these things though. --JAD 05:29, 4 February 2007 (GMT)
Upgrading would make it less definite- your message turned it from possible to more probable. We need a 'really unlikely' sword or somesuch. theendisnigh 14:57, 5 February 2007 (GMT)

I know this may sound stupid, but what about killing an imp with it? (Imp)ossible sword?? Spacer one 03:27, 13 February 2007 (GMT)

The first rule about Cities: _Nothing_ ever sounds stupid if there's a pun involved Flt 11:49, 13 February 2007 (GMT)

Victory Points?

On the Me page under Statistics just below Experience Points there are now Victory Points. How does one gain Victory Points? Azuaron 14:47, 3 February 2007 (GMT)

Umm, did you notice there's already like 5 threads asking this question? And no, no one seems to know yet. -Scrumbucket 17:13, 3 February 2007 (GMT)

I see Duke heyus2 MD has a Victory point. How did he get it? -Biffo 17:33, 3 April 2007 (GMT)

City of Gold Mapping has Begun

Posting here, since I assume there's the greatest chance of somebody important reading it. It appears that Intrinsic GPS doesn't work within the Mountains of the Son. However, GPS items do work. I've modified my mapping script to read GPS coordinates from a GPS device if it is equipped, so mapping of the Oz interior is now possible. See: example map. However, if this is a 'bug', and shouldn't be possible, I'd rather know now before I roll out the mapping upgrade to the general public and upset the King. Aren't I nice :-) --Sam 18:19, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

I added a City of Gold city map earlier today. My GPS didn't work, so there aren't any coordinates, and I was to lazy to map the trail. Gonzometro 04:40, 5 February 2007 (GMT)
I say go for it. It's not like the path's too special and the city has been mapped already. Kaos Dragon 18:13, 6 February 2007 (GMT)

Happy Birthday to the 'King!

Hope you have a good one. Enjoy the toads in hats. --JAD 05:01, 2 February 2007 (GMT) /map?x=53&y=-260 May you grow one day older, wiser, and slightly drunker. -Stien

Happy Birthday, my 'King! I wish you a year of happy fiddling. Peskil 10:15, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

Happy birthday indeed. Are the repeat Christmas presents a birthday thing? theendisnigh 10:34, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

woohoo! i got a Murder Bow! thanks mate! Zoological

I got the AP and went Jabberwock Smiting in Oz  :D Thank you! Jennyann 12:11, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

Happy Birthday Elseware! -Jon 12:27, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

Happy Birthday, King Elseware! Here's to many more! - Unstenk 16:53, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

Happy Birthday, Milord. Thanks for the gift! GargoyleBoy 17:07, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

Happy Birthday, 'King Elsewhere! I like the party favors. hendsch 18:02, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

Happy birthday, the 'King. This happens to be the only MMO I play. Doc Mackie 18:06, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

Have a Roc-bashing, Lion-slaying, gold-finding beauty of a day. Happy Birthday Elseware, 'king of all that is cities. *Bows with a devastating flourish* Eruantion 18:34, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

Happy birthday, your majesty! Ravensdance 23:41, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

Any birthday gift we might give pales in comparison to the gift of Cities which you have bestowed upon us. Happy Birthday, mi'lord. Billz8 23:44, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

Happy Birthday, my 'King. --Bubba_the_Shy 14:10, 3 February 2007 (GMT)

Air City Crickets

What's up with all the crickets in Air City? --Tiltowait 19:21, 1 February 2007 (GMT)

I don't know, but England are probably losing to them. Darksatanic 19:25, 1 February 2007 (GMT)
Pa-Dum Ching!
All gone now. Weird. --Tiltowait 21:04, 1 February 2007 (GMT)
TerrorRemedy did most of them in, I believe. Darksatanic 21:10, 1 February 2007 (GMT)
Sounds like just another swarm, actually -- Thog 12:51, 2 February 2007 (GMT)
Yes, that's what they were.

New effects of dying without insurance

Well, one of my characters died, and when his corpse was recovered he discovered something new...

You hum the Pastoral Symphony, while the corpse decays.
You lose a Corpse of Duke BlueFlame MD.
You gain 3 Pieces of Soylent Green.

--BlaisedeC 15:23, 1 February 2007 (GMT)

Awesome. What a spectacular idea. In the movie, I believe soylent green was a food. Can you eat it? --JAD 15:50, 1 February 2007 (GMT)
Soylent Green isn't food - it's people!!! Andrewsi 16:12, 1 February 2007 (GMT)
http://www.thurb.com/humour/cannibal.htm Darksatanic 16:17, 1 February 2007 (GMT)
Actually, it's both food and people. Apparently much more nutritious than the other soylent colors. Hopefully this means that there is a new movement item (bulldozer) with which we can harvest other players. Yum! --JAD 16:57, 1 February 2007 (GMT)

Eat it as our test case and tell us what happens. ketchup 16:39, 1 February 2007 (GMT)

Pastoral Symphony? Surely while watching something decay, you should be listening to something by Michael Nyman Rackmount 12:50, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

For all our uk players i have good news if you possess cable Soylent Green (1973) will be on TCM this week, Tuesday at 7pm. ketchup 01:39, 4 February 2007 (GMT)

Ewww. Do you know what they put in this stuff?
You lose a Piece of Soylent Green.

No noticeable effect.

The Party Hosted by JAD

Hello all. As you know, I will be hosting a fantastic party next week. Unfortunately, I am having trouble pinning down a location. There are so many new things happening these days that I seem to have too many options. I could host it in Oz so that we could all visit the mysterious city. I could host the second mining party near the SE tunnels. I could even host it on Ignatz' Retreat so that we could all learn the wonders of mixing drinks.

Despite all of these exotic locations, I am currently leaning toward a compromise location (near Earth City) which would be easy to get to and not too far from these quests. Still, I would like your input because I want to gauge interest. Please let me know where you would all prefer to party next week. --JAD 05:28, 31 January 2007 (GMT)

I'm liking that compromise position. However, the Mixology idea has its own appeal; it's a good place for fruit-gathering folks to do business, and it would be the opportunity to do so. As of now, I'm in need of pineapples and coconuts, neither of which appear to be accessible except by market or Wizard's Retreat. I like my business to have a face on it. :) macksting 06:51, 31 January 2007 (GMT)
I second that. Around Ignatz' Retreat you can grow or forage almost everything needed for this quest, but if something special is needed you have to travel far for the next market. I'm imagining a country fair type of party, with people showing off with their best crops, homemade moonshine, their wives' cakes and their newest farming equipment. And we'll have a contest about who's got the biggest cucumber. Flt 08:57, 31 January 2007 (GMT)
I was going to suggest near Ignatz' as well - from the simplest perspective, there's no trading post nearby. It'd be a LOT easier to trade stuff (especially booze) for the quest with other mixologists rather than having to traipse all the way over to brighthelm or one of the four cities. -- Thog 12:57, 31 January 2007 (GMT)
Another vote for Ignatz's. Droll 16:04, 31 January 2007 (GMT)
Yah - Ignatz's has my vote. --PuddinPop 01:58, 1 February 2007 (GMT)
Another vote for ignatz's pad. - looser

Thank you all for the replies. I am happy to announce that I will host a spectacular booze-laced decadent party on Ignatz' Retreat beginning very soon after the current extravaganza ends. See you all there. --JAD 15:16, 1 February 2007 (GMT)

Should we organize a shuttle service since this is at a place very far off the track? And the fact that one can arrive in a air conditioned shuttle bus condor would give the party some respect. Flt 10:04, 5 February 2007 (GMT)


One space south and east of the current party is a bowling alley. Bowling's free, only 10 AP a go.

A page has been set up to track current bowling games and to make it easier to share bowling balls http://wiki.cities.totl.net/w/Bowling_Club

City of Gold

So wait, isn't Eldorado a spanish place or some jazz? Should it really be in Oz(tralia) Well, I'm just plum shocked. Anyone in the Andies right now who has seen the path of the setting sun? If it follows the setting sun, then wouldn't it have to be westbound? -Stien

It would, i'll make a new page for this. City of Gold --Qazxcv 22:38, 25 January 2007 (GMT)
Check that page now. It's got a lot more info.  :) --Dragon 08:55, 26 January 2007 (GMT)

Misril Bling raffle

I am holding a raffle for a Misril Bling. Tickets are available from the Raffle House at 68E 29N One square south-east of the current party.

Tickets are 5000 gold each, and once all are sold, or on the 27th, whichever comes first, I shall be rolling a D10 at the party, and the person with that ticket shall be the winner and will receive the Misril Bling which is ideal if you're wanting to mine some valuable ores in the SE tunnels. MrFoo 19:19, 25 January 2007 (GMT)

Sorting Office

The Sorting Office has opened near Earth City. A must for disorganised adventurers.

I can't find out what it does because

You need a pass to enter the sorting office.

Anyone have one to get more info? --smudgepuss 18:33, 25 January 2007 (GMT)

7of9 is offering a pass for sale at the Party in the Inner Region. MrFoo 19:15, 25 January 2007 (GMT)
Bought a pass. went to the sorting office. seems you can organise your inventory (into bags etc) for less AP. useful if you have bags. lots of gold wasted if you don't. I don't have bags. Also, pass is consumed upon use. J. Jennyann 19:31, 25 January 2007 (GMT)
I got the pass off a Gnome which isn't a monster I would usually stab, but I was on the way to the Dragon Pass to make my way to the party YFM 1214 Friday 26 January 2007
Hi - the sorting office is great to sort out the endless crap in your inventory, but you do need to have bags to go there so you can easily put a load of inventory items into a bag you select. Also, I'm glad I didn't sell the pass because like it's been mentioned, they aren't re-useable so will probably be found more commonly within time. So it could have been a waste of someones GP YFM 1235 Friday 26 January 2007

Just been to the general store in Earth city - passes on sale there for 20k --smudgepuss 00:45, 29 January 2007 (GMT)

Sir Tim just dropped one for me

Martial Arts Nerfed?

Have martial arts finally been nerfed? Just punched a Croc and only did 40 damage to it. Most surprising (I normally do 80). Whilst it greatly weakens me, it does mean that elemental weapons now actually have a purpose again other than to be sold at markets for cash. Is this a permanent change? --Sam 23:10, 24 January 2007 (GMT)

Sorry, just noticed Darksatanic's comment on the bug page. Looks like it's a full time change. Yay! --Sam 23:13, 24 January 2007 (GMT)
Maybe this is a sign that Ninja Island will soon be offering more Martial Arts Training. Gonzometro 01:54, 25 January 2007 (GMT)
In the meantime, the Spear of Odin can do 70 damage and is unbreakable (if you run out of swords). - Isambard 03:15, 25 January 2007 (GMT)
Yes, and thankfully mine has 90% accuracy. Unfortunately, it's capped at 63% for non-fire types. The worst part about this is that we now have no unbreakable weapons that will kill a croc in 2 hits. This is a very sad day (or week) indeed. Now the only weapons that do 80 damage are not of this world. I sure hope the Ninja Island dojo opens soon. --JAD 19:18, 25 January 2007 (GMT)
My Earth Bow has also been nerfed. Instead of doing 80 per shot to air-aligned creatures (and of course, I'm earth-aligned), it's now doing 40. -- 19:05, 25 January 2007 (GMT) (greycat)
Bear in mind that it was actually a bug. The aligned bows and martial arts have been doing twice as much damage as originally designed, for the last few months. I did take a look at it when it first started, but didn't have the time to trace the cause. Elseware finally spent 10 minutes tracking it down and fixed the bug. Darksatanic 19:23, 25 January 2007 (GMT)
Yeah, that's true, but it was such a wonderful bug. Sorry for all of my whining. It's just that when something so wonderful is taken away, it's hard not to miss it (even if it was wrong in the first place). --JAD 21:29, 25 January 2007 (GMT)

Void News

Has arrived through my Palantir. How about you? --Bubba_the_Shy 20:50, 24 January 2007 (GMT)

No news is good news? I got two blank news items. --BlaisedeC 00:17, 25 January 2007 (GMT)
I got nothing. By nothing, I don't mean a blank palantir, I mean nothing. --JAD 00:20, 25 January 2007 (GMT)
I got the same, but then this just came through, sounds interesting --Bel3338 00:30, 25 January 2007 (GMT)
Lord Ignatz invites keen drinkers to take classes in Mixology. Apply in person at his retreat at
82E 52S. BYOB.


From IRC:

Jan 23 22:30:27 <MrFoo>     oh DS, I was trying to work out what use Mail would be, then was thinking, 
                              you probably designed it, so there'll be some pun involved. Unfortunately 
                              the best I could come up with was that Iron is Fe... so it's Fe-Mail. But 
                              that doesn't help :)
Jan 23 22:32:03 <darkling>  Worry, uncertainty, confusion, doubt...
Jan 23 22:32:07 <darkling>  My job here is done!
Jan 23 22:36:52 <MrFoo>     You've managed to get people to never look for the really simple answer first, 
                              that's for sure.
Jan 23 22:37:14 <MrFoo>     Do you see Occam's Razor as a personal insult to game design? ;)


I have just hit a pheonix and as the page reloaded I have 15 lines of 'Groink's at the top. Any ideas? theendisnigh 12:45, 22 January 2007 (GMT)

The 'king was fiddling MrFoo 14:01, 22 January 2007 (GMT)

Philantropic Lending Library

It occurs to me that it would be possible to create a library which could lend out books. All that would need to be done were to collect all the books, set up a stall near a bench with the books priced at a reasonable sum, which would be a deposit, and then to buy them back at the same price. A small profit could perhaps be made by selling reading glasses.

There'd be a few rules, possibly chalked next to the stall, which would require all books to be read and then returned the same day.

I'd do this myself, but well, you know, effort required. Actually, I may well do it once I've reached Shaman level, but I don't mind sharing the idea, as a few libraries in different regions would be ideal.

Anyone want to go for it?

XXXXXXXX83.67.23.158 12:27, 19 January 2007 (GMT)

That's a good idea, and more efficient that the Ograh's book club we have at the moment. Unfortunately I don't have even the beginning of a bookbag to offer.--Solune 12:55, 19 January 2007 (GMT)
Two problems. The first is that people may use your stall to sell their unwanted books (if you price too high) or buy your books to sell elsewhere or complete their collection (if you price to low). The second is that to have all the books you need a shop instead of a stall, and that means 18% tax on sales. hendsch 14:02, 19 January 2007 (GMT)
I was thinking of setting the 'deposit' at only around 10GP, but I suppose 18% of nothing is nothing, so it could be set at 0. I was hoping that it would kill the market in books, and if not, meh, it's a charitable venture.


The problem is that books can be sold to Caroline's in Bentnob for 5K gold or to the talisman maker for less (3K?) so I don't think it's possible to kill the market for books. While it's nice to think that people wouldn't take advantage, the first bookbag disappeared. hendsch 14:48, 19 January 2007 (GMT)
This is true. However, I'm going to try it on an honesty basis, anyway. So, if people who are feeling generous would like to give me their books, I'm currently at the Brighthelm Party. I'll set up the shop near the low AP cost read bench as soon as I've got a full set. I'd also be really grateful if someone could help with editing a wiki page about the Philantropic Lending Library as soon as its set up, as I'm pushing my wikiskills just posting here now as it is. Ta. XXXXXXXX 16:23, 19 January 2007 (GMT)
Any suggestions as to what the library should be called? I'm thinking of the 'Obama Memorial Library' after the US's greatest president, cruelly struck down by an railgun shot from orbit in 2011.
Shouldn't it be the Obama Presidential Library, then? What was our president doing in orbit? hendsch 17:08, 19 January 2007 (GMT)
That was actually a Joe Pineapples reference...

While it's true that most players are very helpful. Some are not, and as long as you can't put constraints on Stalls (will never happen), certain players WILL be buying in bulk for the wrong reasons. Mind you, I'm not just being pessimistic here, I speak from certain experience.--Bubba_the_Shy 13:23, 20 January 2007 (GMT)

What if we make it in Oz or south of the desert? It would be hard to get to and whoever will get there will have played enough to get there would realize being nice pays (I would hope). vloodo 22:45, 20 January 2007 (GMT)

If it's south of the desert, it's closer to caroline's. How about Bognor? Are there any empty lots there?10x

I haven't been by recently, but last I checked there were no lots up there, unfortunately -- Thog 00:07, 21 January 2007 (GMT)
I buy books at my shop Bargain Time for 4000 GP and sell them at 5000GP (I pay 875 GP Tax per sale so only make 125 GP per book which at my gross net of over 3million GP is irrelevant anyway) I usually have 2 copies of all books in stock and im near the memorial library. I would have no objections to people buying my books, reading them at the library and then selling them back to me. - Timekeeper 22:23, 24th Jan


Seen in Water City, just north of the hospital. By the time I'd checked the Wiki to see if there was any information on it the rotten thing had gone. I had a quick look round but ran out of AP. Has anyone else seen it? GrumpyNick 21:44, 18 January 2007 (GMT)

Was able to hop in the ambulance on its way through water city (1AP). It seems to make a circuit like the ice cream van. Great Lord Yendor, Duke MrBlarney, Duke terence are also along for the ride. Doesn't seem to be any options available to me while riding. Heyus2 05:01, 19 January 2007 (GMT)
Ayep. I made a post in Requests for Information regarding the thing. As Heyus says, it makes a circuit like the ice cream van at a pace of around one space per 10 seconds. It's a good way to save AP to go somewhere between the major cities, if you have the patience to jump aboard as it passes and the vigilance to pay attention to when you want to get off. MrBlarney 10:22, 19 January 2007 (GMT)
For the mathematically uninclined, at about 90 spaces between each city, it takes 15 minutes to move from one city to the next, and one hour to do one full circuit. I suppose it is handy if you happen upon it and you're trying to get to some point along the middle of a road. Otherwise with Internet, ISP, and server lag, just happening to catch it if you are making it a part of your planned route might not work so well. I'd like to think this thing has more purpose (of an MD variety) else it might have been called a bus instead of an ambulance. - Heyus2 12:24, 19 January 2007 (GMT)
Getting to the trails to the interior region, for example. Maybe it's just an ambulance because you can hop on it to get to a hospital (and it travels faster than the ice cream van). It does solve a problem for new players. It used to be that as long as you stayed on the road, you could always walk safely to town for healing at a hospital or monastary, even if you didn't have a talisman to break to take you there. There seem to be more and more monsters that spawn on the roads, so it's not nearly as safe as it used to be. Now, if a new player gets stuck, they can always wait for the ambulance. hendsch 13:37, 19 January 2007 (GMT)
The ambulance was stopped at the hospital with only me in it for a good long time. I got out and it disappeared. Perhaps it is activated by something? - Heyus2 19:29, 20 January 2007 (GMT)
As far as I know, only invisible monsters spawn on the road. don't they ?--Solune 15:08, 19 January 2007 (GMT)
Plus Road Runners. However, you can't hit a road runner with *anything* unless you're a level 1 armourer with a devilishly clever trap. Darksatanic 15:13, 19 January 2007 (GMT)
I just noticed that all players entering the Ambulance had full health when they stepped inside. I wonder if anything changes if you get damamged before taking a ride, or if it is simply transport around the loop? MrBlarney 15:18, 19 January 2007 (GMT)
I got in damaged, and got out again with just the same amount of HP, so it looks like the paramedics in the ambulance don't do first aid. Rackmount 13:44, 22 January 2007 (GMT)
sisters also spawn on roads.
Has anyone checked if you can drop a corpse in the ambulance?...Perhaps this is the "Body Bag" suggested by the KoTT?? Spacer one 14:20, 22 January 2007 (GMT)

Newest Party

as of Jan-15 Is at 65E 47S...closish to Brighthelm Spacer one 00:39, 16 January 2007 (GMT)

The next party will be near Bognor next week, presuming I can scrounge up 4 records and a speaker. If you're willing to contribute to the cause, please palantir me. -- Thog 04:24, 16 January 2007 (GMT)
I've got that. I'm at the (kind of) Beach Party now, so if you're on your way I can hand them over there. Emelie 04:43, 16 January 2007 (GMT)
I should be there tonight. Thanks! -- Thog 15:43, 16 January 2007 (GMT)
I have to say, the idea of a Bognor party seems...pointless. Choices of stuff to do up there are pretty limited, and if you've already completed the northern quests there's almost nothing. Of course, it's your party, but rigs are hard to come by and I feel it would be a shame to see one wasted (at least in the eyes of some) on a Bognor party. It's never fun to throw a party that nobody comes to. Billz8 02:02, 17 January 2007 (GMT)
As someone who has thrown two parties in less easy to reach places than around the aligned cities, I'm all for people hosting where it most benefits the host (the current location was chosen so I can go to Holiday Island for a bit if I ever get my AP maxed again). That being said, I'm really hoping there will be a summoning chain for the Bognor party. Those folks who can enchant talismans should consider making a bunch on a regular Bognor square for their own quick return to the party or to put up for sale for anyone needing to get there after the party ends. -Jon 03:14, 17 January 2007 (GMT)
I'm nearly ready to host a party as well, only needing 6 records... Syagrius 15:33, 16 January 2007 (GMT)
You know, there was initially some talk of trading components on the Free Party page, does anyone do this? I know I have most (maybe all) of the components in my shop that I'll buy (some I also sell) at fairly low prices. Yes, I spent 40k on two records, but that was just to complete a rig in a hurry. In general, if all the components were given a relatively low sale value or swapped on a one for one basis (with the possible exception of speakers and records being worth less than one other component), I think we might see more people ready to host parties. These parties benefit anyone who wants to attend and hoarding the pieces only makes it less likely for the next party to happen. -Jon 03:14, 17 January 2007 (GMT)
How about having the next party in the inside region near the caves, to explore and enjoy the newly opened South-East Tunnels? --Jpv 14:57, 18 January 2007 (GMT)
I was going to suggest that, but someone has already found the altar and it doesn't seem to be that far away. Mind you we should still explore the rest of the tunnels, there might be a secondary quest.--Solune 15:28, 18 January 2007 (GMT)
I started considering moving the location as soon as I heard the tunnels were open. I'll let everyone know if it does move. -- Thog 17:24, 18 January 2007 (GMT)
Okay, due to popular demand (i.e. the fact that I'm enjoying exploring the south-east tunnels), the party will be moving from Bognor to the Southeast interior (Once one of my other characters puts together a rig, I'll throw the Bognor party). Now I just need a name, since the "Bognor Ice Festival" is a bit of a misnomer. Any suggestions? Something dealing with mining would be ideal... -- Thog 00:30, 21 January 2007 (GMT)
I vote for the "Dig your own grave" party. -- X-Himy 01:05, 21 January 2007 (GMT)

Since I cant find a spot for requests...can someone summon me back to the party?...I have T-shirts in BULK...Spacer one 22:53, 16 January 2007 (GMT)

Was going to, but you're already here. Syagrius 02:34, 17 January 2007 (GMT)
Any chance of a summon? Oh, and I think I've got most of the bits and pieces for a party, except I've only got two or three records? If anyone wants all of my party related stuff I'll swap it for M-Y Cd singles. XXXXXXXXXX
I am 8 records from a party, and records seem to be the rarest drop. I desparatly want to host a party though, probably another OZ one. -- X-Himy 18:32, 17 January 2007 (GMT)
I see that someone was talking about throwing a party on Holliday Island, but has anyone given any thought to doing it sooner than later? Seems like it would be a clear win for all the attendees - doulbe AP regen for a week with no limit. And with the bridge in place anyone who can get to Brighthelm can get to the party.... - Scary Mike 19:53, 17 January 2007 (GMT)
Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that parties override the local terrain and hence you wouldn't be able to get an uncapped double ap with a party on holiday island? --smudgepuss 19:58, 17 January 2007 (GMT)
Exactly. The most you could get away with is maxing your AP quickly and then stepping out of the party to continue building. -- Thog 20:13, 17 January 2007 (GMT)

Department of Pointless Statistics

As of about five to eleven this morning, we now have 60 characters in the assorted non-knightly trades, out of a total of some 700-ish active characters. Darksatanic 13:11, 13 January 2007 (GMT)

The Earth City Flower Show

The latest party just started at 96E 4N. Come one and all. Ravensdance 18:22, 8 January 2007 (GMT)


To welcome baby Zack to the world, come and smoke cigars with me at 12E 7N - just on the King's Road by the Royal Palace.

Instead of hanging round a trading post trying to give out cigars, I've set up a stall and set it to give out 23 free cigars. Come by, say hi and have a cigar with me.

(needless to say, please take only one each.)


Marwell Zoo

I'm here at the moment, but what do zoo goers do at the zoo? ERINNE

You could visit Lelafo the gentle Lemur! [[12]]

You could kill things like I did when I was there. All the Hard Knocks critters are in one cage...

Free Slime at 86E 92N

... and the surrounding squares, just to the west of Water City. All assistance most gratefully welcomed. harvestbird 07:51, 3 January 2007 (GMT)

All gone. Glad to be of service. -Scrumbucket 08:26, 3 January 2007 (GMT)

Great Lord Yendor taught me a song!

Great Lord Yendor's image appears, unshaven and with tinsel around his hat.
"Ahoy there matey! Thanks for your excellent performance at my Club! In keeping with the nautical
theme I'd like to teach you a lively hornpipe I learned from an old salt from the Isle of Fright:
it's an ancient song giving thanks to the wind for bringing the sailor back swiftly to their
loved ones. No doubt a fellow lover of folk music like yourself will enjoy it, and maybe it will
keep you company if you're ever out at sea on a cold night. There's something magic about it, so
listen carefully..." You learn the tune easily.

I can now play a song for the North/East/South/West/Calm on my Harmonica. I suppose this only helps when I'm sailing around on the Ocean in my lovely Survey Vessel. Flt 21:43, 2 January 2007 (GMT)

Oh, and I got some Grog and Magic Cookies as well. Thanks a lot Great Lord Yendor Flt 21:44, 2 January 2007 (GMT)
In roughly 19 minutes, Sheyona and I might have an answer as to what happens when you play to the winds. macksting 06:59, 3 January 2007 (GMT)
Playing to the south winds causes the south winds to pick up.
Movement cost to the south increases by 16, and movement cost to the north is cut in half
(with a minimum of 1 ap). Movement to the east or west is increased by 1. Tulk
That follows my observation, too. It was only 3 AP to move with the wind! Please note that, to move south, you'll need to play for the North wind. macksting 07:22, 3 January 2007 (GMT)
What about the Calm Wind? --Bubba_the_Shy 12:38, 4 January 2007 (GMT)
I assume that undoes playing north/south/east/west, setting everything back to normal. MrFoo 14:27, 4 January 2007 (GMT)
Does anyone know if other players on other boats are affected by your wind? I've been up north so I haven't been able to give this song a try. Sir Garry 15:17, 4 January 2007 (GMT)


Nothing to do with Cities, except that I'm currently having a Combat Wombat rampage through the Thieves Forest in search of Ninjas, for the purpose of creating bane catanas, but my missus has just gone into labour.

We're having a home birth, so not much to do except either pace, or rip those filthy ninja scum to pieces with my nasty claws, whilst the contractions get closer together. All water has been boiled, fluffy towels gathered. There's a fridge full of microwave meals. So it's just a case of chilling out and waiting.

If any Great Lord or 'King would like to up my AP for a bit, to give me something to do whilst we're waiting, I'd be most grateful.

But yeah. Today (or maybe tomorrow, if it goes on after midnight) I become a Daddy. Em (the missus) is currently doing great. So fingers crossed all goes well.


  • I'll put congratulations on ice in anticipation of news of a swift and safe delivery. All the best. harvestbird 21:25, 2 January 2007 (GMT)
  • of course you'll create a cities account for the whelp too right? and name hime after elsewhere or something?-- 23:18, 2 January 2007 (GMT)
Well, he did attend the wedding, so maaaybe. We were thinking 'Osama' had a nice ring to it. Or 'Saddam'. Still not here yet... XXXXXXXXXX
Congratulations on welcoming the screamer into the world =] -Jon 02:51, 3 January 2007 (GMT)
  • When my wife was in labour, I brought a deck of cards with me to play patience at the hospital. She got really angry at me for not paying attention to her, despite the fact that she was in labour for *hours*, and there was nothing to do.... I hope all went well, and that both mother and child are healthy.
    • Six o'clock wednesday. Baby still not here yet. Em's getting kinda fed up. Duke Mack - thanks for the gifts, but I can't open the wrapped up one. Oh well. Can't stay on here long now anyway! Cheers for all the good wishes! Tenecks. XXXXXXXXXX
*blushes* It's from Doc S as well, mind you. If you have any trouble opening it later, drop me a line and I'll replace the lot of it. macksting 03:19, 5 January 2007 (GMT)
Welcome to the world, Zachary Oliver. Already known as Zack, Zacky or Zed.

Born at 7.30 this morning. six pounds eight ounces.

The past 24 hours have been hell, but he's beautiful. It was a very. very difficult labour. Em's bearing up really well but we're so very, very tired. xxxxxxxxxx

Woot!!! Congratulations, and welcome to the club. You will find you dream of sleep, except you won't be sleeping to dream... -- Cthu1hu 13:22, 5 January 2007 (GMT)

Congratulations!!! Has Zachary Oliver started a new Cities account yet? --TerrorRemedy 17:16, 5 January 2007 (GMT)

yay baby! a big well done to em and all the best for all three of you :) --Spugmeistress 02:23, 6 January 2007 (GMT) (who is knitting a baby hat for someone else as she types)

Zack needs a Cities account, a hat, and of course a T-Shirt: -- Sertularian 15:04, 6 January 2007 (GMT)

Image:Baby - Level 1 Human.jpg

Congratulations from Eusebia, although late ones!!!!

      • Zack's doing fine and is home now. The great lords have seen fit to give me a humidor, so I'd like to invite people to smoke cigars with me. Come to my stall outside the Royal Palace where I'm handing them out. XXXXXXXXXX

Killer Rabbit

Curious. I'm seeing Killer Rabbits. To all appearances (what little information is available while I whack them) they are, simply, the same old Rabbit which dealt the extra damage via big, gnashy teeth. However, notably, they are killer rabbits in name. Not merely rabbits. Sadly, I killed this specimen before asking for the opinion of others! Who else is experiencing this? Doc Mackie 05:27, 2 January 2007 (GMT)

I believe that, like seeing if a Cow has milk or a Sheep has fleece, this is a newly-coded additional reward of the Harvey Farm quest. --Dragon 05:51, 2 January 2007 (GMT)
Kickass. Doc Mackie 06:59, 3 January 2007 (GMT)
Anyone know if it works on telling Giant Spiders apart? Just curious.... Donkey.
Nope, it doesn't. --Bubba_the_Shy 21:02, 2 January 2007 (GMT)

Christmas Presents!

The 'King came around earlier today and handed out Christmas presents to everyone - thanks to you, 'King! By the way, I chose the pet - haven't yet decided what to call him yet :-). - Geayzus 05:32, 25 December 2006 (GMT)

I just chose the pet, and it said I got the goldfish egg and flake shaker, but I don't actually have them. What's going on? Azuaron 17:01, 25 December 2006 (GMT)
They're not listed in Inventory yet. In-game, they're above your weapons. Random4518 17:58, 25 December 2006 (GMT)
Found them. Thanks. :-D Merry Christmas to all. Azuaron 18:11, 25 December 2006 (GMT)
I chose the "Bound Spirit" option and ended up with six bound spirits. Apparently I can use them to enchant things (any of my weapons, according to the list). Has anyone played with these before? What effect do they have? Is it permanent? - Cthu1hu 04:38, 27 December 2006 (GMT)
Hmmm, just used a bound spirit to enchant an Air Sword. It went from 20 damage to 40 damage, the hit chance dropped a little and it is now an "Air Sword (Undecided)". More when I find out more!! - Cthu1hu 04:40, 27 December 2006 (GMT)
Okay, got it now (feel like I'm talking to myself here) - I hit a Small Water Dragon with it and it is now an Air Sword (Small Water Dragon Bane). Funkalicious! - Cthu1hu 04:43, 27 December 2006 (GMT)
...and they melt in annoyance if you attack anything other than what they are the Bane of. - Cthu1hu 05:15, 27 December 2006 (GMT)
Is the bounded weapon untradeable?
Untradeable and also unable to sell on the markets. I'm not sure if they're considered "sticky" in the sense that you retain it if you die, though. Snare 15:40, 27 December 2006 (GMT)
OK, so I thought it was kind of funny to make an Omar the Troll Bane. Here's what happened:
You attack Omar the Troll.
You cause 30 points of damage, and receive 120 experience.
Your Catana (Omar the Troll bane) (70 80%) has broken.
You lose a Catana.
You slay Omar the Troll.
You gain a Water Talisman.
You gain 45 Gold Pieces.
You gain a Stone.
The funny thing is that I still have my Omar the Troll Bane Catana in my inventory. Snare 15:40, 27 December 2006 (GMT)
Since last week, bound weapons wear out. I hadn't noticed, but I saw that the "To-hit" percentage of my bound Catana wasn't halved anymore (woo!), but now it has been broken. I didn't lose an ordinary Catana anymore, but the bound one is really lost. Conzy 10:42, 16 January 2007 (GMT)
I post it here, because in the light of current events, I guess what is written above is now 'misinformation'. I'll search the Wiki for other places that could need this info. Greetings, Conzy 10:42, 16 January 2007 (GMT)
Yes, elseware finally managed to fix the bug. Darksatanic 20:07, 16 January 2007 (GMT)

Yup, same thing happened with my Lance o´Arctic Undine Bane. Other ,normal, lance broke instead of Baned one. Did you Snare lost other catana in same way... Will baned weapons brake if there are no spare one?... Will they ever brake... WHO am I 8O --Baezurt 10:39, 28 December 2006 (GMT)

Same happened to my Vorpal Blade (Jabberwock Bane). It broke. But nevermind, it was still right there going Snicker-Snack as if nothing had happened Flt 13:47, 29 December 2006 (GMT)
Yup, it seems that ordinary weapon of same type breaks from inventory, but baned wont in any case, and same
goes with Bull Whip of Tundra Troll Bane, it graps it I lose it, but I wont lose the baned one. (stupid me, I expected it to kill the troll straight away since my Bane lance does those Arctic Undines, they are opposite aling. and base dam is 200, XI . It seemed that whips to hit lowered dramatically. It seems I´ve kinda wasted this bane 8( , well..). --Baezurt 12:12, 30 December 2006 (GMT)
Since last week, bound weapons wear out. See my post above, Conzy 10:42, 16 January 2007 (GMT)
Anyone tried demonic weapons or the spirit sword? --Tiltowait 22:29, 19 January 2007 (GMT)

It's Snowing!

A large number of squares surrounding the Animal Sanctuary (Harvey Farm) have had snow dropped on them. The places are still labeled "valley" and "plains", etc., but snow monsters spawn there and snowballs can be made for 3 ap. Azuaron 21:05, 23 December 2006 (GMT)

Seems I can make a Snowman from 2 charcoal, a carrot and a snowball. - Isambard 23:45, 23 December 2006 (GMT)
If you throw snow at a Snowman, it gets bigger. I guess there has to be a competition for the largest snowman. I will corrupt people to throw their balls at my Snowman.--Solune 13:31, 24 December 2006 (GMT)
What happens if you throw a giant snowball at a snowman? Syagrius 03:52, 30 December 2006 (GMT)
It gives him 10 HP, and he doesn't try to strike back.--Solune 11:30, 30 December 2006 (GMT)
Movement costs have also increased to the normal for Snow terrain. --Dragon 00:30, 24 December 2006 (GMT)
The snow seems to have made its way south of the desert as well -- Thog 03:58, 24 December 2006 (GMT)
Oddly enough, the Great North was unaffected Tulk
Oh yeah, throwing Snowballs at Snowmen does not count... --Bubba_the_Shy 12:25, 24 December 2006 (GMT)
It's not snowing on holiday island, which is down, I suppose, to the coastal aspect and the fact the whole thing is at sea level. Neither is it snowing IRL here in New Zild, where summer is threatening to break out any day. harvestbird 22:27, 24 December 2006 (GMT)
Went down to the desert today and it was clear of snow. Naius 21:38, 25 December 2006 (GMT)
The snow may be gone, but the arctic animals remain. There is a Blizzard just north of Harvey Farm, and I'm sure there are others. Quick transportation to the North anyone? ;-) Azuaron 16:25, 31 December 2006 (GMT)
Blizzards don't send you to the north. They only move you somewhere nearby. Usually about 3 or 4 squares. Kaos Dragon 18:24, 3 January 2007 (GMT)
Can I ask something? I found a blizzard somewhere north of Earth City - attacked it a bit, moved randomly about the map... then I noticed I'm shivering and "need to find an ice station". Am I going to start dying? Eruantion 18:24, 4 January 2007 (GMT)
Not yet, don't worry. You'll only get frostbite if you're really cold. To get back to normal you just need to spend 1 AP or 2 in a desert or over a tauntaun corpse
Or just wander around a bit spending AP somewhere where it's not cold (i.e. in the main area of the map). If it's somewhere warm -- desert or the fire swamp from 100N-110N -- it'll come back faster. Darksatanic 20:12, 4 January 2007 (GMT)
Thanks. Shall do so. Eruantion 20:31, 4 January 2007 (GMT)

Illusion Road South to the School of Hard Knocks

This may be a total waste of AP but I've started a road similar to the WrigglingRoad created by Billz8 a while ago. This road (starting at 5E 7S and ending at 5E 41S) through the desert, however, is comprised entirely of Illusions. By using a wand of the same alignment, players should be able to navigate South through the desert from Windy City with great ease. Also, there are three Oases (14S, 26S, and 33S) on the trip one square to the east of the path. The only time the path will divert from it's straight-south line is if a danger square pops up which would require more than one AP to navigate. My thinking is that this could facilitate a short trip to the School of Hard Knocks, although, I have no idea of the life-span of illusions so it may be a short-lived plan. If anyone wants to help, I would not object. I made it to ~ 20S before I had to head back to the party to regain AP. If the Great Lords deem this an exploit, I apologize, and I'll be more than happy to go back along the path clearing out the Illusions. Snare 20:07, 19 December 2006 (GMT)

If memory serves, don't the danger squares shift over time? I would've sworn that over time the Wriggling Road led right over danger squares. If that's the case, this would have a similar problem. -- Thog 20:27, 19 December 2006 (GMT)
I wasn't sure if the danger squares shifted in addition to the random monster spawns. I hoped by setting up the road as close to as many oases as possible it would mitigate some of the damage (although not the AP costs, unfortunately). Snare 21:49, 19 December 2006 (GMT)
Isn't it going to cost the same number of AP to align illusions to pass them without fighting as it would cost to align monsters? hendsch 15:27, 20 December 2006 (GMT)
Yes, but you don't run the risk of getting damaged or losing wands to tars. Snare 15:32, 21 December 2006 (GMT)
Have you tested to make sure that using a wand on an illusion doesn't dispel it? Danger squares shouldn't be a big problem. Even a newbie can build up some booze and bandages before heading down. Droll 21:29, 19 December 2006 (GMT)
Yes, I tried a wand of the same alignment on an Illusion before I started this and my character could pass it. All the Illusions are currently Neutral (or were as I set them up). This isn't really so much for newbies as it is for those people who don't want to spend time trekking across the desert to get to the SoHK. I actually enjoy wandering the desert taking out Large Mimics, Tars, and Sand Worms for the drops but can understand players' aversion to the AP costs of getting through all of that. Snare 21:49, 19 December 2006 (GMT)
It's a great idea rednsare; I'll have to check it out. But if there are lots of people that want to go straight to HK, they could also do a summon chain or queue like the Military Island Hoppers. Droll 14:42, 20 December 2006 (GMT)
You know that the Wriggling Road is the reason earth worms now get sick and die, right? If illusions don't currently have a limited lifespan, they probably will after this. (The same problem exists for creating four "aligned paths" of normal monsters...normal monsters now die too.) --Dragon 17:43, 20 December 2006 (GMT)
Which is fine by me. I wasn't aware of any lifespan for Illusions and, if it turns out there is one, I'll file this under, what I'd call, an interesting Cities experiment. Snare 15:32, 21 December 2006 (GMT)
I'd be deeply shocked if Illusions weren't given lifespans at the same time that everything else was. Apparently, all monsters have lifespans now, roughly two weeks I believe. macksting 17:21, 21 December 2006 (GMT)
Not all--uniques and some semi-uniques are still immortal, I believe. (There was a recent bug where Whales were inaccessible, and didn't die after a month.) Not sure about illusions currently, but as I said, if they don't have a finite lifetime now they probably will soon. --Dragon 17:57, 21 December 2006 (GMT)
Did anybody kill my illusionary Polychromatic Dragons up near the Fortress of Solitude (many months ago)? If not, then illusions expire like other creatures. Droll 03:17, 22 December 2006 (GMT)

Something is reducing your karma

Anybody else got this message?!? What it mean?!? jmgk 03:12, 17 December 2006 (GMT-3)

Are you wearing anything made from seal pelts, by any chance? If so, those were awfully cute seals, you know. -- Sertularian 05:50, 17 December 2006 (GMT)
You've blown a seal. Your karma is leaking. Doc Mackie 06:03, 17 December 2006 (GMT)
No, that's just a little ice cream on my chin... 18:08, 20 December 2006 (GMT)
Hmm... And this have any in-game effect?!? jmgk 03:12, 17 December 2006 (GMT-3)
You're losing kudos. Darksatanic 15:49, 17 December 2006 (GMT)

Next Party

Solune's Solstice Sabat started 10 december close to a cave near Crimson City (77E 220S). The ambiance was the only one suitable for such a place: goth and satanic. --Solune 13:05, 10 December 2006 (GMT)

The next party will be hosted by palindrome after Solune's party.

It's on! The Palindromic Christmas Party is now happening @ 3E 7N, North of Windy City, south of the Temple of the Air. I'll summon a few people to start a summon chain for those stuck in Oz. Who wants to come first? -palindrome 19:27, 17 December 2006 (GMT)
Im also willing to summon if you are stuck in OZ or otherwise...Palantir me or leave a message on my talk page Spacer one 13:24, 18 December 2006 (GMT)

The following party, a Christmas/New Year's sort of party, will take place near Windy City starting December 24 (hosted by his partyness himself, Duke Sertularian MD).

Can we get a ruling on this one from Sert? On the Free Party page, it has Sert's party from 12/24-12/31. If that's incorrect, I'll start my party this week. -Jon 12:27, 24 December 2006 (GMT)
I meant December 24. Sorry for the confusion. Too much eggnog, perhaps. ;) -- Sertularian 16:33, 24 December 2006 (GMT)
Doc Mackie stops giving Sert antidotes. I think you've had enough. macksting 18:18, 24 December 2006 (GMT)

"Mare Egrets Moose and Hippo Gnu Deer" (ouch) is now underway in the same location (3E 7N). -- Sertularian 05:37, 25 December 2006 (GMT)

Getting There

A summon chain is being proposed. For those unaware, other methods include expending Arena or Barbelith talismans, then Air talismans, in sequence; the Arena and Barbelith are within the Cities area, for talisman purposes.

limbo talismans also works PlanetNiles
However, they're also expensive. Hence my recommendation of "throwaway" talismans. macksting 09:35, 24 December 2006 (GMT)


The Fiddling Wizard Folk Club currently has the following signs outside -

  • Fiddling Wizard Winter Hootenanny coming soon!
  • An evening of music, magic, mischief, and merriment!
  • Come one, come all!
  • Prizes to be won!

Another Open Mic event on the way?

- jmb 09:07, 30 November 2006 (GMT)

Is that in Air City? Spacer one 13:31, 2 December 2006 (GMT)
Yes, at 1E 4N--Solune 15:15, 2 December 2006 (GMT)

Any news about when exactly the Hootenanny will be held? Flt 15:25, 2 December 2006 (GMT)

Nope, but when asked, Yendor stated that he'll give "plenty of warning" and it will last 48 hours. macksting 16:28, 3 December 2006 (GMT)
Any news yet? Waiting makes me anxious! --Bubba_the_Shy 20:49, 14 December 2006 (GMT)
No news, sorry. Doc Mackie 17:24, 17 December 2006 (GMT)
Great Lord Yendor is there now, surrounded by monsters called "Friday!" Syagrius 15:57, 19 December 2006 (GMT)
Arrg, enough with the riddles already. Just tell us when it starts... I would like to retract my previous statement --Bubba_the_Shy 17:13, 21 December 2006 (GMT)
I intend to be there as soon as I kill this Morpheus. macksting 17:19, 21 December 2006 (GMT)

Apparently it has begun, but my character is too shy to play or sing, although he's extremely good. And my other character seem to be starting from square one though he rocked one month ago.--Solune 12:42, 22 December 2006 (GMT)

You have to keep your hand in you know. PlanetNiles 12:49, 22 December 2006 (GMT)
Yeah, I used to rock but neglected it and went back to square one. I'm finally back to extremely good. Being too shy has nothing to do with your skill level. I found that the traditional way of overcoming social anxiety worked nicely. hendsch 14:07, 22 December 2006 (GMT)
That helped with the singing and the dancing, but not with the instrument playing. And I am wankered. -- X-Himy 16:54, 22 December 2006 (GMT)
Any chance of a summons (Havelock) and I'll give you a nice Crimbo pressie
Summoned to the party. It's only a few AP away. Kaos Dragon 16:09, 22 December 2006 (GMT)
I've been keeping my Harmonica skills up for just this kind of thing. It's my first session ever; I've missed out on a few, clearly. What's a little odd is that using the Sing button, very appropriate for tossing off maritime lyrics, seems to cause my character to merely join in instead of performing. macksting 18:21, 22 December 2006 (GMT)

Okay, so I've rocked up to the Fiddling Wizard Folk Club, imbibed a sufficient quantity of courage and danced, sang and played my rockin' harmonica to an appreciative crowd. Other than feeling much closer to my roots and scoring a free ale from GL Yendor, nothing much else seems to have changed. Not that the ale wasn't appreciated, but isn't there supposed to be songs taught at open mic nights or something? -- Cthu1hu 20:33, 22 December 2006 (GMT)

There's a long tradition of the song not being distributed until well after the event. hendsch 20:44, 22 December 2006 (GMT)
Good to know. I was passingly curious when that would occur. It sounded like it would happen late in the process, generally; now I know not to stress it, should it occur. macksting 04:42, 23 December 2006 (GMT)

Im stupid

I am now stupid, that's right. Just post here about the dumb things you have done too... (This was a contest, but it seemingly changed... --Duke Slith MD 02:36, 29 November 2006 (GMT)

You tried to convert gold into gold at the Alchemist's Shop? Sir Garry 04:13, 29 November 2006 (GMT)
In a horrible moment of confusion I misclicked and attacked a Ninja with a Daemonic Great Sword. Did you do something stupider than that? Stevie-O 04:21, 29 November 2006 (GMT)
In an equally horrible moment of confusion I misclicked and attacked a large living tar with a midas wand. Feeling any better yet? Tulk
Perhaps I wont post about it before I start a contest about it next time... and I said "Stupid" With pride, not self dislikingness --Duke Slith MD 06:04, 29 November 2006 (GMT)

I've got two. The first: I equiped a dragon stone and attacked the monster with it instead of healing myself. I died of course. The second: exploring the northwest tunnels I came to the Balrog and it's massive number of hit points. It had been dibsed by the dread pirate kitty so I didn't attack it. So I spent a few days of AP going back to the kingdom and stocking up on Gandalf cocktails and vorpal blades and doing the whole quest again. hendsch 13:10, 29 November 2006 (GMT)

It took me several seconds to figure out why you needed the Gandalf cocktails. Chuckle. Droll 14:56, 29 November 2006 (GMT)
Is "stupid" a new level of drunkenness that has yet to be discovered by the rest of us? JADW27
Sadly no, I really wish it was one though... --Duke Slith MD 23:29, 29 November 2006 (GMT)

Whilst not being stupid on a magnificent scale, a few weeks ago I decided to give people a bargain by putting 3,000 bits of gold on the market for 1 gold piece each. Leaving my thinking cap firmly on the floor behind me, I entered 3,000 bits of gold at a cost of 3,000 gold pieces. ....I sincerely doubt many people will be picking up that bargain of bits of gold going for 3,000GP each. --Nuru nuru 12:41, 3 December 2006 (JST)

No More Party?

I've been spoiled all these weeks with my double AP. There's no party listed right now. I know Sert's birthday will be soon, but is there anything going on before that?

I'm 2 records short of a party. Anyone interested in a party should give me 2 records at water city's trading post before tomorrow morning. If I start it, it will be just south of the Water Temple.--Solune 21:55, 27 November 2006 (GMT)

official take and give?

An official from The Council of Great Lords appears and takes 1 Shell.
An official from the Council of Great Lords appears, hands you a package, and then disappears again.
You gain a Shell.


Zoological 06:30, 27 November 2006 (GMT)

Apparently there is 2 items named shell, one of which had a bug. Darksatanic corrected that bug yesterday and gave the right item to everybody who had shells.--Solune 06:57, 27 November 2006 (GMT)


Did something change in making wool? I've got 36 wads of raw wool and a distaff, and I can't make the raw wool into short wool. I do know earth skills... --BlaisedeC 05:14, 27 November 2006 (GMT)

Never mind, the option just showed back up... --BlaisedeC 05:18, 27 November 2006 (GMT)

Snakes on a plain

Im currently at 83E 102N on the "Great Plain"...and there are M-F-in Snakes all over this M-F-in Plain...Snakes on a Plane? Spacer one 11:58, 24 November 2006 (GMT)

Apparently, yes. And for more joke-recycling fun, check out the Astral Plane. Dithat 21:27, 24 November 2006 (GMT)

Cricket Grounds

There's a bunch of "Ground" terrain and a couple of Wickets just west of Crimson City. I saw GL Ruthven there--apparently he's the one building the cricket ground. Rumor has it that nothing is happening there yet, but perhaps we'll see cricket players there in the near future (or be able to play ourselves..?). In any case, it appears they really like their sports in Oz.... --Dragon 04:25, 24 November 2006 (GMT)

I've got a bunch of Cricket balls. Think we need a bat? Hbookbinder 07:09, 24 November 2006 (GMT)
How do you get their little legs apart? -Jon 08:53, 24 November 2006 (GMT)
Maybe it's a Krikket[13] ground. Gonzometro 16:59, 24 November 2006 (GMT)


Armourer Syagrius has put 2 coupons into play. The bearer of the coupon can change, so if the 2 people I handed the coupons to do not wish to use them, they can trade them. The coupons do not expire, so if the bearer wishes to hold onto it for a while, I will honour them whenever the coupon is returned to me. Syagrius 01:20, 14 November 2006 (GMT)

What is the nature of these 2 coupons? -palindrome
It basically says it's good for a full suit of armour at 2/3 cost. It also explicitly states its transferable nature and it's number (mine's 2/2). JohnnyRogers 19:41, 14 November 2006 (GMT)
One coupon has been redeemed. Only one remains. If JohnnyRogers still has it, then he has a rare item indeed. Syagrius 15:58, 19 December 2006 (GMT)


I don't see myself in the Tax Paid league table, but my first memo for store sales (a few days ago) mentioned that tax was taken out. It was at a rate of more than 10%! Is this new? Does it apply to all stores, or just those in a City? ATC 17:45, 13 November 2006 (GMT)

Tax rate is 17.5% and applies to Shops (200-item limit), but not Stalls (6-, 11-, or 16-item limit). It's existed for as long as Shop Permits have existed. I don't know why you (or Jon) don't appear on the Tax Paid table. --Dragon 18:34, 13 November 2006 (GMT)
I'm certainly paying the taxes, no idea why I'm not in the table though. -Jon 02:25, 14 November 2006 (GMT)
It may be a different type of tax. Wasn't there a one-time assessment on players with millions and millions of gold pieces a while back? Droll 15:41, 14 November 2006 (GMT)
Could be the tax-tracking script hasn't been implemented yet. Syagrius 15:57, 14 November 2006 (GMT)
First I've heard about this. The only incidents I've heard of when admins took money directly away from a player were when that player was getting rich through, shall we say, rather shady means. Regardless, considering that no one appears on the table, I'd agree with Sy--the script either hasn't been implemented, or (gasp) has a bug. --Dragon 16:38, 14 November 2006 (GMT)

Chicken Dearth

I'm trying to get Eggs to bake a cake (Dundee, since you ask), but my Tarot deck claims no Chickens in the 'kingdom. From memory, there are meant to be chickens in Kansas, but weren't chickens used to be found on Harvey Farm? Where are all the chooks? Darksartago 11:37, 6 November 2006 (GMT)

There were last time I went to the farm. But, as the method to get an egg is rather messy, there tend to be only cows and a few sheeps left. At the risk of displeasing Great Lord Harvey, I suggest you substract a number of cows to the herd.--Solune 12:11, 6 November 2006 (GMT)
"Culling," if you will. Doc Mackie 12:37, 6 November 2006 (GMT)
On a happier note, I have eggs to trade/sell- looser
I went to the farm yesterday in fact and there were no chickens, only cows. Hopefully I'll be going to Kansas soon (whenever I get my last CD) JohnnyRogers 20:46, 6 November 2006 (GMT)
Cleared the garden, no chickens, i'll check the dusts tomorrow. --Qazxcv 04:02, 7 November 2006 (GMT)
The dusts were rife with them. I've got eight eggs I didn't have before, and was still surrounded by chickens. Make it a bar run; head for the tavern and just kill any chickens you meet. And maybe a few other things while you're at it. macksting 07:25, 12 November 2006 (GMT)

Acorrding to the Monster kill, i'm the reason there are no chickens... EGGS FOR SALE!!! --Qazxcv, The Chicken Slayer 03:07, 26 November 2006 (GMT)

Fireworks on the Golf Course

If you're near the golf course in Oz about now and would like to enjoy some fireworks, my display is at 20E 224S. harvestbird 21:56, 5 November 2006 (GMT)

Party, party, party

Since it seemed like we almost had 2 parties this week and got Monster's Ball from Sertularian (I think), is it safe to think there'll be another party beginning in a few days? I'd like to figure out my plans and I've kind of become a party addict in the last month or so =] -Jon 12:21, 4 November 2006 (GMT)

Latest rumours places the FLU party somewhere close to Water City beginning next week. Can the party host confirm? -- 12:52, 4 November 2006 (GMT)
Well we actually did all of our knitting at the Monsters' Ball in the end (since that was the next party to be held in the 'Kingdom). I suspect that the role of host is now up for grabs, unless MasterPete still wants to arrange a little soirée for the collective pleasure of us all? -Stelio 07:49, 5 November 2006 (GMT)
I'm two Records short of a Rig, if anyone's willing to donate - I'm thinking of somewhere near Earth City. - andrewsi
I've got the next party rig all set! The FLU party was merged into the Monster's Ball, but I'd still like to have a party in the Kingdom. Earth city sounds good to me. Any objections? Otherwise I'll be starting it right afterthe Monster's Ball. When exactly is the Monster's ball gonna end? --MAsterPete
Is there any party up yet? Eldred 00:38, 8 November 2006 (GMT)
92E 1N (SW of Earth City) --Dragon 02:09, 8 November 2006 (GMT)

The Disco Inferno has started, at 10E 93N. - andrewsi, 21:11, 13 November

'King Elseware's Display

5E 90N. Come see it while it lasts. -- Thog 03:44, 4 November 2006 (GMT)

Actually, it's over near Water City as well. My guess is you can see it all over the 'Kingdom -- Thog 03:50, 4 November 2006 (GMT)
Looks like it's gone from the Fire City area. -Jon 12:16, 4 November 2006 (GMT)

What Happened to Holiday Island?

What's with the lava? --Tiltowait 13:55, 3 November 2006 (GMT)

Someone (*cough*) set off a Lava Bomb. I expect the lava will probably cool down eventually, at which point it can be removed. --Dragon 16:18, 3 November 2006 (GMT)
I'll remove the lava myself when it cools. I was just trying to blow up Fort Zombie so I could get at the Wizard hats inside. You'd try it too if you could! --Kaos Dragon 04:48, 4 November 2006 (GMT)
Where do you get these things? macksting 05:02, 4 November 2006 (GMT)
Addendum: And how do you clear cooled lava? There's metric buttloads of it up north that could stand to go. Doc Mackie 05:06, 4 November 2006 (GMT)
I got one right from elseware. I don't think I was supposed to use it though. And I'll get around to clearing the rest of the lava in the north eventually. --Kaos Dragon 06:08, 4 November 2006 (GMT)~
To repeat the other question: how do you clear lava? Doc Mackie06:13, 4 November 2006 (GMT)
You cannot clear lava while it is hot. After a while it turns into "Cooling Lava" and later "Cooled Lava," both of which you can walk on (although movement costs are very high). When standing on it, you can clear cooling lava for 144 AP, cooled lava for 288 AP (these costs can be reduced with mining tools). You can also use a Lava Solvent (occasionally dropped from large sea creatures) to clear it for 1AP (which consumes the Solvent, of course). --Dragon 07:12, 4 November 2006 (GMT)
Making lava bombs a very expensive sort of vandalism. Doc Mackie04:24, 5 November 2006 (GMT)
I have some lava solvent if anyone wants to use it for the good of the cause. Billz8 23:01, 4 November 2006 (GMT)
I've cleared all the lava off holiday island, and I'll get around to clearing the north soon. And what do you mean it's expensive? I don't think you can make one. --Kaos Dragon 07:33, 5 November 2006 (GMT)~
I think he means expensive to clean up, not to set off. -Geayzus 22:23, 30 November 2006 (GMT)

Armourer Quest

There must be a way for Smiths to become Armourers now. Check this out: http://cities.totl.net/cgi-bin/kills Darkling shows up as 'Armourer' Darkling. --TerrorRemedy

And the first Road Runner kill, eh? Someone's prediction came true, it seems... Random4518 15:32, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
Please head here to track and further discuss... Darksartago 17:20, 1 November 2006 (GMT)

Halloween Party

Since the Holiday Island Party isn't going to work, it's been relocated to the Big Graveyard just south of Fire City.

And it is boring. --Qazxcv 03:29, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
The AP Regen benefit isn't boring, though (IMHO). -- Sertularian 03:08, 1 November 2006 (GMT)

Wear a Halloween costume to the Monsters' Ball! It's starting, well, now. -- Sertularian 02:15, 31 October 2006 (GMT)

Hello there, I'm looking for an Air-character and a Water-character at the party who are willing to spend 300 AP each.

 Air: Sharpen 300 Pieces of Wood into 300 Pointy Sticks.
 Water: Fletch 300 Pointy Sticks with 300 Feathers into 300 Arrows.

Note: If there are two Air-characters willing to do 150 each or something along those lines, that'd be neato as well. In return I'm willing to pay in cash or trade some items or perform some Fire-crafts. Contact me on my Talk page or through Palantir. Cheers. --Bubba_the_Shy 12:53, 2 November 2006 (GMT)

Update: Thanks to Mister Hendsch, all has been solved in a much less AP-costly way. It's all over now.--Bubba_the_Shy 19:11, 2 November 2006 (GMT)

Wanted: Summons to Monster Ball (twice) I'm looking for someone willing to summon me back to the party. I accidentally spent myself into 10 hours AP debt and am really lusting for that speedy regen. Tomorrow I will be leaving town for the weekend, and would love for someone to summon me to the party from my planned long retreat (if it's possible/allowed). I will of course reimburse you--make an offer on my talk page. -Scrumbucket 01:05, 3 November 2006 (GMT)

Looks like he's been summoned already 18:48, 3 November 2006 (GMT)
Yeah, sorry. I should have posted this earlier. I summoned him last night. -JADW27
Thanks to everyone who offered a summon, and especially JADW27 who got there first! I er, got a bit busy with RL stuff, was a bit rushed, so all my carefully formed plans went awry. Anyway, I had a great weekend, so I won't get too concerned about maxing my AP for two days straight. Again, thanks to all you who offered to help me out, even if I couldn't get my end together. :) -Scrumbucket 00:42, 6 November 2006 (GMT)

Knitting Circle

I'd like to propose forming a knitting circle that will turn Fleeces into Gloves and Jumpers, exploiting the relative advantages different alignments have in their crafting costs. If you're interested in joining in so that you can explore the Frozen North, sign up on the project page.

My plan is to do the production work during the next party in the 'Kingdom. No one has put forward a claim on that honour yet, and I certainly don't have the kit necessary to organise it myself. But if anyone is thinking of playing host after Ravendance's party finishes, the name WoolMAD is still available :-D (Wool and Music Appreciation Day). -Stelio 19:25, 23 October 2006 (BST)

WoolMO? Wool of a Musical Origin PlanetNiles 10:17, 24 October 2006 (BST)
How about 'Fleece, Love & Understanding' --TerrorRemedy 18:13, 24 October 2006 (BST)
I like that last one. And it can be shortened to FLU, which seems sorta appropriate for those preparing to go North. -Jon 14:24, 25 October 2006 (BST)
I've got everythign for a rig except 10 records and 2 decks. I'll start the party outisde of Water City as soon as the other party ends...Anybody wanna trade for records and decks? - masterpete
I've got a 2 deck and 5 records, and I should make some more wooly stuff before going up north. --Qazxcv 22:28, 26 October 2006 (BST)
meet me in watercity? Can we start this party already? - Masterpete
There has apparently been parallel evolution of a party for this week with it looking like the Holiday Island one being cancelled, so could someone please mention the particulars of any current party? Thanks! - 22:40, 30 October 2006 (GMT)
There appears to be one on the isle of fright PlanetNiles 23:37, 30 October 2006 (GMT)
Seriously? I thought we had this week reserved? WTF? OK- so FLU is scheduled to start Next week? Nov. 6th or there abouts? I've got my Rig all set and Qazxcv is already about to be thrown out for Conduct Unbecoming of an Officer. I'm gonna have it at 91E 96N, just to the west of Water City.- MasterPete
What did you say, your lucky I wasn't going to use those records and decks to make my own party. --Qazxcv 01:39, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
I'm sorry I was going to say 'D and D' for Drunk and Disorderly conduct, but I thought to many people woudl interperet it differently and be confused...
DO I really need to wait a week to get this party started? I'm itching for some wool making NOW... Are people ready? Can there be 2 parties?
Get your fleece to 3W 90N, i'm there if you need a summon, but right to the north is fire city. --Qazxcv 02:42, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
Wow! I go away for a job interview and when I come back I find that everything's starting early! (Reminds me of the Pub Crawl Trek starting at 11pm rather than the original midnight.) Okay, I have put up a production rota for creating the goods, and indeed it does come out at the predicted 260AP. The good news is that Qazxcv gets to start things off (which is lucky since you're there and ready to go). The bad news is that I'm actually booked into a Monastery at the moment, so I won't have any AP for another 18 hours. If Bubba the Shy gave you some fleeces then that should solve that problem. Otherwise work with what you have for now, and you'll get to continue with the remaining fleeces when I turn up. I'll keep an eye on what's happening on the wiki in the meantime. Good luck! :-) -Stelio 23:21, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
I should be there in 10 hours. By the way, Stelio: I seeee j0000 --Bubba_the_Shy 13:10, 1 November 2006 (GMT)
 :-D I shall be turning up to the party momentarily. Just as soon as I'm out of the Monastery and have drunk my coffee. See you shortly! -Stelio 17:34, 1 November 2006 (GMT)
I'm now confused as to where I should be... PlanetNiles 10:56, 2 November 2006 (GMT)
Ah, I see you've found us at the Monsters' Ball. :-) Sadly MasterPete doesn't seem to be around, which is a shame as we need him for the bulk of the spinning work, which is next on the list for the production rota. Ho hum. Guess I'll just save up the old AP for a bit then... -Stelio 11:21, 2 November 2006 (GMT)
SO SORRY! I got wrapped up in the Ball Invitation thing... SPinning like mad now! WHo do I give this too? - MAsterpete
You should have enough Wads of Raw Wool to make 190 Short Wools. 120 of those go to RedlacSelin, the remaining 70 to me. :-D Full details of the production rota are on the project page. -Stelio 13:44, 3 November 2006 (GMT)

The party after that is coming...

I plan to start a party shortly after the conclusion of the International Music Festival. It will be held on Holiday Island because that's where most of you good folks seemed to want it. T-Shirts will be sold to commemerate the event. The new bridge should help to make it accessible to all.

This party needs a name. I've been spectacularaly unsuccessful in thinking of one, so I'm holding a contest. A free party T-Shirt to the person who comes up with the name I like the best! (Include a slogan for the t-shirt, if you like.) -- Sertularian 04:25, 29 October 2006 (GMT)

  1. . "Bridge-Burning Party" -- Sertularian 04:25, 29 October 2006 (GMT)
  2. , Holiday Party -Jon 04:26, 29 October 2006 (GMT)
  3. . Sand in Your Shorts Doc Mackie
  4. . Goldfish Shoals Doc Mackie (Slogan: Fun Fun Fun in the Sun Sun Sun)
  5. . Shipwrecked and Comatose Doc Mackie 04:29, 29 October 2006 (GMT) (Slogan: Fun Fun Fun in the Sun Sun Sun)
  6. . Come Sail Your Ships Around Me Doc Mackie 04:31, 29 October 2006 (GMT)
  7. . Tropical Party -Jon 04:32, 29 October 2006 (GMT)
  8. . Cabana Booze Cruise -Jon 04:33, 29 October 2006 (GMT)
  9. . Beach Party -Jon 04:34, 29 October 2006 (GMT)
  10. . Spring Break -Jon 04:34, 29 October 2006 (GMT)
  11. . Margaritaville -Jon 04:36, 29 October 2006 (GMT)
  12. . Country Faire -Sheyona
  13. . Pirate Bash Beach Party -user:Sheyona 08:19, 29 October 2006 (GMT)
  14. . Beach Blanket Bacchanalia -- Sertularian 13:30, 29 October 2006 (GMT)
  15. . The Seal Bash -- Hendsch 15:45, 29 October 2006 (GMT)

Since it will be on an island down near the equator, can we all wear grass skirts and coconut bras? What fashion exactly would that be? -Jon 04:42, 29 October 2006 (GMT)

Not to be a killjoy, but this isn't going to work. It's been stated (by the 'king) that a party on Holiday Island won't have the benefits, like no max AP, or won't be allowed to happen at all. JohnnyRogers 21:41, 29 October 2006 (GMT)
I'd have no problem with it losing the benefit; if you've hit max and want to keep it going, just step off and enjoy the slower raise. However, judging from other issues, I can see the 'king having a problem with that... which would make me a sad panda. (Personally, I like rewarding a little munchkinism.) macksting 02:27, 30 October 2006 (GMT)

For the love of Elseware, please stop setting off Fireworks at the party. Feel free to set them off next to the party, but setting them off on the party square overrides the effects of a Free Party. --Dragon 16:47, 4 November 2006 (GMT)

Next party is coming...

With the generous assistance of Sertularian, Spacer One, Palindrome and Fire-O, I have the necessary rig for the next party to start during the coming week. Now, I'd like to hear people's opinions on the location. I've got my eye on Kansas, as that would allow people to come to the party and then return to wherever they came from, making it useful to people anywhere on the map... but this is of course dependent on attendees having enough ruby slippers. So how are people stocked for this particular footwear?

If Kansas doesn't suit people, I'll put it as near to a city as possible, and probably in Oz. In any event, I'll post the location and start time details beforehand. Ravensdance 17:05, 21 October 2006 (BST)

I vote for "Not in Kansas" JohnnyRogers 18:50, 21 October 2006 (BST)
Ditto. Near a city in Oz would be ideal. Shambler 20:05, 21 October 2006 (BST)
Ditto. and Ditto, although that does make it harder for the less advanced players to join in. (But hey, it's your party, you can have it wherever you want!) -- Sertularian 20:44, 21 October 2006 (BST)
OK, that looks like a very definite consensus for Not Kansas, so Oz it is. We haven't had a party next to a fiery city yet, so I think we'll go next to Crimson City, at about 84E 220S. The party will start this Monday at 7pm game time (1800 GMT). Anybody without transport who would like a ride in my speedboat, palantir me and I'll try to set something up. Ravensdance 21:36, 21 October 2006 (BST)
I was going to vote not Oz, simply because not as many people can get there. Bognor might be interesting, and give me motivation to get up there. Or Brighthelm perhaps. -- X-Himy 00:07, 22 October 2006 (BST)
We could start a summon chain, of course, for the lower level players. -palindrome 00:54, 22 October 2006 (BST)

Oz isn't practical for me either. If you want to open it to lower level players I would suggest limbo, or even better barbelith, so I can get rid of all these talismans.--Solune 09:18, 22 October 2006 (BST)

The Zoo might do.

Barbelith was the first place I thought of, but after a quick inspection, I found that a party could not be created there. Limbo may have been a possibility, but I have some idea of the availability of Limbo Talismans from the Pub Crawl signup page, and the numbers there were rather limited. The Zoo may also have been an option, but I only have one talisman to get into the zoo myself, so....
As the party has been announced, I intend to stick to that location, so Oz it is. However, taking Palindrome's suggestion of a summon chain, I've created a signup list for those needing summoning here. Ravensdance 12:14, 22 October 2006 (BST)

Didn't we just have a party in Oz, i believe that it should be in bongor because 1. we already had a party in Oz, 2. we had a party in the G.D., 3. we had 2 partys in the 'kingdom, 4. It could be done in an ice pallace, or beside the 'kings fortress of solitude. Besides, Guards can't be summoned. Qazxcv 18:45, 22 October 2006 (BST)

Also, It's nothing personnal, but we explorers of the last frontier like to have parties without the permanent repression of our overreaching police--Solune 21:25, 22 October 2006 (BST)
The problem with Bognor is that it isn't near a talisman destination. People tend to head away from the party to spend AP in other areas; it's easier if they can talisman in rather than having to walk back. As far as the summoning problem with guards, the offer of a ride in my speedboat is still open. Ravensdance 19:01, 22 October 2006 (BST)
I will say in support of Bognor that, frankly, I kinda like the place, and that it would be fun to make something finally happen there. :) However, access is quite limited; you either must cross the Plain, or must have done so with intent to get more permanent access in the past (Horn of Heimdall), or be dependent on summons. Which have, admittedly, been generous. macksting 19:12, 22 October 2006 (BST)
I've got 2 stones to use so I could summon someone--Qazxcv 20:00, 22 October 2006 (BST)

The Airship "Skyboxes" are now open for balcony seating. Available are concessions and toad. macksting 09:04, 24 October 2006 (BST) The International Music Festival has begun as advertised. Come one and all! Ravensdance 19:04, 23 October 2006 (BST)

Which is where, exactly? The chatter above confuses their "advertisment". Shambler 23:00, 23 October 2006 (BST)
I went ahead and put it in Oz, at 84E 220S by Crimson City. More details are here. 23:04, 23 October 2006 (BST)

Shall we talk trading?

So, who wants what, while we're here? Music festivals make great swapmeets. Bear in mind that I, myself, am a purveyor of many things... some of which are in short supply right now, but for instance, if you're having trouble filling out a tarot deck or still need a few more cards for the Bomb Squad quest, I've probably got two of everything you need. macksting 09:04, 24 October 2006 (BST) Addendum: Likewise, I'd very much like to arrange a trade for an air bow. macksting 09:07, 24 October 2006 (BST) Addendum the 2nd: I've got a fur coat to trade for colored scarves and baskets of plums. macksting 10:46, 24 October 2006 (BST)

People should feel free to look at my trading page and propose trades (looking for silver and sulphur right now, among other things). I have, or can get, many things (totem items included)--check my inventory and/or ask. --Dragon 07:10, 25 October 2006 (BST)

Pub Crawl Trek

(I put a mention of this on the Conversation page, but apparently I forgot to mention it here.)

I'm organizing a mass Pub Crawl at User:Stevie-O/Pub_Crawl_Trek. If you have at least 10,000XP, No matter how new your character is, go ahead and sign up! A recent test has demonstrated that the <10kXP movement restriction appears to be limited only to desert coordinates.

In case you're not aware, completing the Crawl reduces the to-hit penalty that consuming alcohol introduces. This is extremely helpful if you enjoy using alcohol + coffee as a healing method. The catch is that you have to stay drunk the whole time, and that's tricky because it (at least in part) involves getting from Bentnob to Brighthelm whilst remaining drunk, which requires a LOT of alcohol. Therefore, it's more efficient if one person gets drunk enough to get from one place to another, and then summons the others. So it's best to join in!

The trek starts Sunday around midnight game time (so technically Monday).

Stevie-O 00:05, 19 October 2006 (BST)

Where exactly are we starting? Tulk
The Park Bench in Windy City (8E 5N) as it mentions at User:Stevie-O/Pub_Crawl_Trek. :-) Stelio 08:54, 19 October 2006 (BST)

Well, the trek was very rewarding for a number of players; it splintered a bit when Stevie had to go to his movie a little earlier than intended, but both my fiance and I found our way around the entire set of pubs, we were able to accomodate a fellow who had a hat on, and Sheyona also found the mother of her Stinky Pete! macksting 09:09, 24 October 2006 (BST)

Holiday Island is now open!

If anyone wants to go to Holiday Island but don't have a boat, there's now a bridge crossing from Brighthelm. (What can I say? I was bored and had some spare wood...) Enjoy it while it lasts (something tells me it won't live forever) -- Durkon 04:25, 17 October 2006 (BST)

On a vaguely-related note, someone has built a bridge part of the way to the Bentnob island, which actually appears to be blocking the northern entrance. That is, I can't move from the bridge to the river. - Isambard 05:26, 17 October 2006 (BST)
That was me. I was hoping to build a bridge for the pub-crawlers, but I can't build onto the river, and you can't walk from bridge to river. (You might be able to go from river to bridge though, so if you start in Bentnob....) I brought this up on IRC, but the Great Lords didn't seem to care very much. So, uh, sorry for blocking the river, everyone. If nobody maintains it, it will apparently fall over in two weeks.... --Dragon 06:04, 17 October 2006 (BST)
It appears this has now been fixed. I could step off the bridge into the river at bentnob, and from the river back to the bridge. Kinda handy, really Syagrius 16:00, 18 October 2006 (BST)
I haven't checked the exact coordinates, but is it a straight shot from Bentnob to Holiday Island? If so, seems to me you could build a bridge that way to form a walkable path between Bentnob and Brighthelm -- Thog 18:22, 17 October 2006 (BST)
Are bridge plans used up in building a bridge? If not, we could make a whole network of bridges connecting most of the islands. - Isambard 03:57, 18 October 2006 (BST)
Bridge plans are not used up. It just takes a mess of AP and wood (25 each per square) to build one. Might be a bit of an effort for the furthest-away islands (like R1'yeh and the Lost Island). -- Thog 14:52, 18 October 2006 (BST)
R1'yeh is halfway to Oz, but the Lost Island isn't far away (it's west of the other islands). Bridges are four squares long (total 100AP + 100 wood) aren't they? And does anyone know how long bridges last before they wear out? - Isambard 01:17, 19 October 2006 (BST)
Bridges are not necessarly four squares long. For example, I just made a bridge three squares long to go chill out a bit. Bridges are fun! -- Durkon 03:29, 19 October 2006 (BST)
Oh, and there's now a bridge connecting Holiday Island with Bentnob. Well, most of the way - I got as far as the Shelter before I ran out of AP and wood. Once I get more of both, I'll take it down to the beach -- Durkon 00:45, 22 October 2006 (BST)
Here's a map of the current bridge network. I've started a bridge to Ninja Island. When I've finished doing a couple of quests, I'll come back and connect some more islands. - Isambard 21:50, 23 October 2006 (BST)
Some of these bridges are about due to fall into the ocean. Do we have enough folks with bridge plans and interest in maintaining them to keep them up long term? If so, we can always put up a page so people can track which bridges need maintenance... -- Durkon 04:54, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
I'm interested, since I've reached a point where there are only a few quests left to do, and I think a bridge maintenance page would be useful. Image:Bridge network (optimal).png - This is how I think the network should look, in order to keep maintenance costs down. The Gorgan Island bridge is slightly different, and I haven't connected EighBay Island since no-one really goes there do they? - Isambard 06:43, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
Mrrf. I was this close to asking if anybody had extra bridge plans with which to join the band of maintainers... until I realized that I've got other duties. macksting 06:47, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
Bridge plans are sticky anyway, so that wouldn't work. I could give you a good deal on a fur coat, though...  ;) With regard to the original question, I'll probably maintain any bridges if I'm in the area, but I don't know that I'll make a full-time commitment to doing so. --Dragon 07:04, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
Eigh-Bay Island is almost done (ran out of AP). I was planning on taking the route to the Gorgan Island Beach, but was too low on wood to correct myself once I missed the turn. Oops. Anyhow, I was envisioning more a page where we can track when each bridge was last maintained, so anyone in the area can fix a bridge if need be. If I get some time this afternoon, I'll throw one together. -- Durkon 14:20, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
I'm starting a bridge page here. - Isambard 00:16, 4 November 2006 (GMT)

I found a kitten!

In the thieves forest! Can i keep it? I haven't seen Kitten listed anywhere on the monsters page. Are they new? it didn't respond to my string. Anyone have milk i can have?- DOnkey

Funny you should ask that. Try hitting the Kitten with a bucket. --Dragon 04:03, 15 October 2006 (BST)
eww. Kitten milk. But I suppose you can milk anything with nipples right?
I have nipples. Can you milk me? -Jon 12:50, 15 October 2006 (BST)
Actually, yes, under the right circumstances. Disturbing but true. Stelio 20:26, 15 October 2006 (BST)
Ha! My boobs are from being lazy, not hormone treatments! So there! Oh.. wait... nevermind. -Jon 01:17, 16 October 2006 (BST)
I saw a Kitten too. When I hit it with cruel blade, it turned into cow.. That is really disturbing! Agzu 12:56, 15 October 2006 (BST)
Yes, hitting a kitten with a cruel blade *is* disturbing! You should be ashamed! Droll 15:22, 15 October 2006 (BST)
A kitten may turn into a cow, you know... --Dragon 22:04, 15 October 2006 (BST)
Now I'm wondering if Phaser + Red Bull = Lemonade Ray Gun... Stelio 12:03, 16 October 2006 (BST)
Sometimes even the cow monster kill statistic is shown as 'kitten'. -- Eldred

Unfortunate exceprts from IRC

[22:18] <Albert> >> Welcome to new air novice, microzer0 from 
[22:20] <Glamdring> Go, little Air buddy! Make us proud!
[22:20] <Glamdring> >> microzer0 killed by Earth Worm.

Burning Man

As OzFest is winding down, the Burning Man Festival is about to kick off underway in the Great Desert, at 95E 9S (due South of Earth City.)

Looks like i'm the first one there, oops :) Shambler 01:55, 10 October 2006 (BST)
It' s on! Thanks Sert Shambler 02:46, 10 October 2006 (BST)
I'll be right there - but where _exactly_ is it? Flt 12:25, 10 October 2006 (BST)
I got a "You feel like you've been bad" message when I joined burning man - did anyone else get this? Or was it unrelated? I've certainly lost kudos. I can't think what other thing would have caused it.Platypus 17:38, 10 October 2006 (BST)
You now give 5 kudos to the party host automatically when you join a party. This is a recent change. --Dragon 18:30, 10 October 2006 (BST)
Can someone summon me there? I just went on retreat and want to make use of the regen time. I will return the stone of course. Much thanks. -- X-Himy 01:05, 11 October 2006 (BST)
Won't really do you much good unless you've already joined the party. -Jon 03:19, 11 October 2006 (BST)

I am a Smith again ("oh shut your mouth, how can you say I go about things the wrong way?"), and have set up shop at Burning Man. I am making armor for ingredients + 1 Leather, but not making much music yet. I'll also make books for ingredients + 1 leather + some metal. Unmeasured 16:42, 11 October 2006 (BST)

The party is over, and the next one hasn't started yet so we may be at the end of the festival season. Does anybody have any spare records they'd like to donate to get another party going? Ravensdance 08:31, 17 October 2006 (BST)

I got 3 Records and an Amp that I'd be willing to donate Flt 16:38, 17 October 2006 (BST)
I have a few extra odds and ends that I'm willing to donate also. Will Palantir you later tonight. -- Sertularian 18:55, 17 October 2006 (BST)


As Waynestock is winding down, OzFest is about to kick off. Expect the party to start at some point today. (Most likely a bit later when I get down there). OzFest will take place right above Atlantish at 18E 215S. Thanks to TerrorRemedy, Palindrome, and Thog/Elan for supplying records to the cause. I will post here again when the party has actually begun. Zingus 15:46, 2 October 2006 (BST)

Is there any chance this could be somewhere close to something mineable? Preferably something we can get silver out of. Maybe an Outback Outcrop? Don't know what the probabilites are for them yet but we could set up some mines and work them out. Srboneidle2 17:30, 2 October 2006 (BST)
I'll take a look when I get down there. I know there is an Outback Outcrop right next to Crimson City. I'd be happy to throw 5 or so fire talismen your way so that you can move back and forth between Atlantish and Crimson. I know a few people are going to try to use the party to finish up the totems. There are 2 shops in Atlantish that may be helpful in this respect (one of which is mine - shameless plug) which is why i was going to hold it there. What does everyone else think? I'd prefer not to have the party near Los Laputas since I'm sure people went through a bunch of air talismen for the past 2 parties. Zingus 17:47, 2 October 2006 (BST)
Ah, cool - I'll set up a mine in Crimson City then. Rock on OzFest! Srboneidle2 18:18, 2 October 2006 (BST)

Get ready to bite the heads off of some bats...

You lose a Rig.
oh, yes...
You lose 13 Doses of Magic Powder.
Now using Fists.

OzFest has begun! Come on down to 18E 215S to join in! Zingus 01:56, 3 October 2006 (BST)

Vicious Circle

Now that glass swords are rarer than they used to be, I'm attempting to make one so that I can finish my treasure hunt. However, I need anchient wood, got from treemen. To kill them I need an axe. To make an axe I need ancient wood (grrr) and copper ore. To get copper ore I need the ability to mine. To get the ability to mine, I need to have completed the treasure hunt.

Am I missing something, or is this now practically impossible. I don't mind working to complete quests, but this is rediculous.

Alternatively, if anyone knows where I could pick up a glass sword.....

Well, darkling is currently at the party at 9E 8N, and has a spare copper axe. If you can hunt down some Jabberwocks, I'll give you the axe for 20 leather. Darksatanic 16:09, 30 September 2006 (BST)
Glass swords are sometimes found when you kill a monster, or could possibly be purchased at markets or stalls. And of course, as seen above, there are players willing to trade them. Droll 19:12, 30 September 2006 (BST)
Also, you can kill treemen with normal weapons. Though copper based weapons are more effective. By the way, copper nails work too. You only need 10 bits of copper to make a nail. That shouldn't cost too much from the Markets. -- LittleHamster 20:09, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Try "The World's Easiest Treasure Hunt" shop in Earth City. They sell Glass Swords along with just about all the other tough things you'd need.

Killing treemen is easy enough, with or without the copper. It is finding them that is the hard part. I will say that a handful of copper nails and a hammer to pound them with bring the trees down quickly.Skold 14:44, 2 October 2006 (BST)
I have a lot of Ancient Wood which I'd be happy to trade. Let me know if you are interested. Srboneidle2 17:38, 2 October 2006 (BST)

The Snakes on the Plain north-east of Water City proved to be a rich source of glass swords the last time I was there - I got three in two days of snake-killing (plus enough other stuff to make a warrior's totem). --Rackmount 10:13, 10 October 2006 (BST)

1000000 gold contest

Hey there everyone...

I'm retiring a couple of characters (scrooge, cloud, and lump), and I'm going to be giving away all of their money. To decide who gets it, I'm going to be holding a contest: Best cities pick-up line. Winners will be judged on the following criteria:

25% creativity
50% humour
10% not creeping me out too much
13% spelling, grammer, and making sure all your criteria add up to 100%

Prizes are as follows:

1st - 1000000 gold
2nd - 500000 gold
3rd - 250000 gold
honorable mentions - 50000+ gold (whatever is left over)

Please send entries by plantir to 'scrooge'. Contest closes sometime next week, lets say, Friday Oct 6. I'll post the winners here.

Good luck! Gruther4 15:21, 28 September 2006 (BST)

One entry per player?
Nope, as many as you want. One prize per player, though. Gruther4 15:34, 28 September 2006 (BST)
it's grammar
10 (ten) bonus spelling points for you! I don't see a period on the end of that sentence, though, so -15 for grammar.

Quick request... I didn't know that plantir messages disappear eventually... and there were some good entries that I've lost. If you sent your entry before last Friday, please resend it! Sorry for that... Gruther4 23:05, 3 October 2006 (BST)


1st Place

Sir Stelio: "Hey baby! Let me show you my Snark-in-a-Sack; it will never break no matter ~how~ many times I use it on you."

2nd Place

Smith Bob: "My other character is 'King Elseware"

3rd Place

Duke 18Charisma MD: "Do you know how much a polar bear weighs? --Just enough to break the ice. Hi, my name is _______"

Honorable Mentions

Merchant: "Wanna come over to my place and open my Mysterious Envelope?"

Duke looser MD: "I want to take my jumper off and travel down your Fire Swamp Road."

Sir Stelio: "Fancy a trade? If you let me into your Treasure Chest I'll give you my Wood and a Measure of Serenity. Or would you just prefer a Bone?"

Well thank you very much indeed! :-) I believe that the correct phrase in the vulgar argot of today's youth would be, "w00t! i aM teh wIN!!!11one!" Suddenly the treasure hunt will become much, much easier. :-D
It is a true honor to be listed with such fine examples of pick up lines. Thank you and kudos- looser.
Holy crap - Bob is Rich! I spent weeks making 100K and then get 500K for a pick up line. Ah well, it's all legit in game stuff so fine. I make sure my chars only play fairly.
Bob - you haven't come to pick up your prize yet! I need you to meet me at the trading post near the southern market (84E 3N). I've been sending you plantirs but I guess you've missed them? If you are in the middle of something, feel free to summon me (scrooge) to a trading post somewhere else, if you prefer. Gruther4 13:43, 13 October 2006 (BST)
I missed how to. Dammit. Bob is on his way. Any chance of a summon? He's in Oz. There's a summon stone in the market near where you are but I'm right out!

Conclusion: I'm not entirely sure what happened, but here are the results... Somebody named Duke Bob MD showed up at the trading post, and I gave him 300000 gold. The remaining 200000 gold I gave to other people who had turned up after I declared bob's prize expired. This Duke Bob then said something to the effect of "Diguise kits are useful" and left, so I'm under the impression that I gave the money to the wrong person. If the real bob wants to track this person down and dis them, then I leave that to them. Personally, I think the creative identity theft thing sort of deserves a reward. At any rate, all of my money is now given away and all my extra characters are now happily retired. In the end, getting rid of the money was almost more work than earning it in the first place :) Gruther4 18:03, 20 October 2006 (BST)

Actually it was Jill in disguise. Jill is a juniour partner of Bob's team and is now heading south to brighthelm very well equipped. The rest of the money will go to Bob when he is done in oz.

Bottomless Pit

There's a Bottomless Pit located at 6E 10N. (Don't worry--there's a grating over the top so you don't fall in.) If you talk while standing on it, there's a cool echo effect, and who knows--someone might even hear it...  ;) --Dragon 04:29, 28 September 2006 (BST)

Remember to not fall in, exect you hippies, thats where you belong. --Qazxcv 04:34, 28 September 2006 (BST)
Something tells me this may be the start of the south-east tunnels quest. -- Thog 05:49, 28 September 2006 (BST)
Except the bottomless pit is in the south-west. - Isambard 14:46, 28 September 2006 (BST)
Oops. I can read a map. Really! -- Thog 15:11, 28 September 2006 (BST)
Hmm. Has anyone tried wandering the southwest tunnels to see if they connect to this now? -- Thog 13:12, 29 September 2006 (BST)

Oz map

I finally finished compiling my maps of Oz. You can find them there. The data comes from Darksatanic's survey. Thanks to him and all the people who have FireFox. Any comments and improvements are welcome.--Solune 18:15, 24 September 2006 (BST)

Party on

Don't be downhearted because Woodstock will soon be over. Next week, Burning Man, a week long party devoted to music and mayhem will begin in the same place. Burning Man will begin shortly after Woodstock ends. Hbookbinder 02:12, 24 September 2006 (BST)

I take that back, I've decided to name my party Waynestock instead. Air guitar performances are encouraged. Party time, excellent!Hbookbinder 02:25, 24 September 2006 (BST)
Woodstock is over, man! Bring on Waynestock! My AP are regenerating sssssooooo ssssllooowwwwllllyyyy. Hendsch 18:21, 25 September 2006 (BST)
You lose a Rig.
oh, yes...
You lose 3 Doses of Magic Powder.
You lose 6 Mushrooms.
You lose 4 Pouches of Magic Herb.
Now using Fists.
Waynestock is on! (with all my Herb) -HBookbinder

I'm going to piggyback off of this post a bit. I'm thinking about starting another free party down in Oz. Aptly named OzFest, It would give all of the current totem rubbers a bit of an AP boost to help reach that coveted -1AP regen time quicker. I'm looking for donations of 9 records to the cause. I have the remaining pieces to create a rig. Post here, the free party page, or palantir me if you're interested. Party on Hbookbinder! Zingus 17:09, 24 September 2006 (BST) m

I was considering doing the same thing. I have 2 records to add to the cause. -- Elan 19:21, 24 September 2006 (BST)

Worm Aid

Read more about it here. --TerrorRemedy

THE CONCERTS OVER YOU F)UCK NUT! Venom 13:56, 22 September 2006 (BST)

No it isn't. My complaint is that those of who missed the two open mike nights because we aren't available Sunday evenings (game time) to play, still aren't going to be available for your makeup concert. Hendsch 14:11, 22 September 2006 (BST)

You are right Hendsch, that's a problem. All I can give you are two advices:

a) Tell Yendor you can't be there on Sunday and give your best performance now. Maybe he'll be lenient? (Under the assumption that he will regard it as a Open Mic night in the first place, which is not a given fact)
b) Wait until next free party and set something up on a more convenient time. (Vindaloo Aid? Tim Aid? Smelly Pete Aid?) Again assuming you can convince Yendor to regard it as an Open Mic night.



You gain 93 Kudos.
Kudos now has a base level of 100.
one of my characters managed to stay at 7. But it's ok, he's a naughty boy. He's got a [diablolic] tag now--Solune 13:43, 21 September 2006 (BST)
I am also at 7 kudos and have a naughty tag. I have no idea what that means, or what I could have done to receive that (maybe nicking a hat). But more importantly, some people have had their names replaced with smiley faces. The result of the party, or something else? Is it the smiler costume? What is the diabolic tag? Also, I've seen a sprang tag. -- X-Himy 14:41, 21 September 2006 (BST)
I got a divine tag but then im just so damn nice. -- The Beggar 14:56, 21 September 2006 (BST)
The smiley face is a Smiler Mask. [spang] means they're hyped up on Red Pills. (Neither of these is related to Kudos.) --Dragon 16:40, 21 September 2006
The Kudo regeneration rate has increased too. seems to be about one every 3 hours--Solune 17:12, 21 September 2006 (BST)
The regeneration rate is not a straight 3 hours. I'm experimenting at the moment (as I'm sure others are). The 1 Kudos I spent at 10:03 this morning hasn't regenerated six hours later. Stelio 16:18, 22 September 2006 (BST)
Other cron scripts appear to be non-functional at the moment, so kudos may not be working, either. Droll 16:28, 22 September 2006 (BST)
When I tried to give Kudos, they went to Spartacus instead of the person I tried sending them to, Why is that?
Most likely, the person you tried to give kudos to is wearing a Spartacus Mask. -- Thog 23:38, 26 September 2006 (BST)


Does anybody met him before? He seems to have a craving for cake's, unfortunately i don't have one.

Position: Jock's tent

it looks like the map changed somewhat here, the tent is on a roadtype field and to the west is a trail.

Jock's tent: An extremely hairy man is sat here outside a tent, brewing something in a pot. It's bright orange, and looks extremely unpleasant. His accent is almost impenetrable, but you think he says 'Got any cake?'.

--Schwarz 21:16, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Interesting. It could be a signpost instead of a real quest. Hendsch 14:06, 19 September 2006 (BST)

I'm betting on the latter. People with sign posts were given dire warnings about being judicious about their use. But, I have no cake (nor the ingredients for one), so I can't check.... --Dragon 18:23, 20 September 2006 (BST)
Yeah, my instincts about cities are usually completely backwards from reality. I guess that's why I find the game so fun to explore. Setting up a fake quest was the first thing I thought of when I heard that signposts existed (which is probably why I wasn't trusted with any). Anyone got an extra stick of butter? Hendsch 18:50, 20 September 2006 (BST)
I have slices of dundee cake and a slice of wedding cake, but no ap for another 35 hours. Syagrius 03:02, 21 September 2006 (BST)
I wouldn't give him my wedding cake, if it were me! Dundee cake can be made, wedding cake can't. -- Sertularian 03:15, 21 September 2006 (BST)
I can get more slices of wedding cake from my lovely wife, however, I didn't intend on giving him that. I made a dundee cake for this express purpose. :) Syagrius 01:49, 22 September 2006 (BST) (8 more hours until I have positive AP again!)

I'm waitnig there until 22:00 today in case somebody wants to try out some cakes. I have only two summons stones tough. After that i'll move to Woodstock to do some guard duty there.--Schwarz 15:25, 19 September 2006 (BST)

I'll be there, when I get out of this ancient castle. Probably be several days now though, since I'm almost to the master smith. Syagrius 16:03, 19 September 2006 (BST)

There's a "Give him some cake" button, but when I equip a Slice of Dundee Cake and click it, all I get is:

You think Jock possibly says 'Where the cake, then?'

--Dragon 08:36, 22 September 2006 (BST)

Maybe he wanted all the cake, not just a slice--Solune 09:44, 22 September 2006 (BST)

I gave him an unsliced cake. I got the message: Jock probably says 'Just right. Thank you.' He offers you some of his orange brew. You feel stronger and faster.

There was no actual effect, however. No HP gain, no AP gain, no change to maxAP or maxHP, or change to any other parameter listed on the "me" page. I no longer have a button available to offer him cake. Hendsch 14:28, 22 September 2006 (BST)

Perhaps the effect only works on Knights or Armourers? -- Thog 14:39, 22 September 2006 (BST)
Ugh. Those are a pain to make. Can't I give him all 10 slices instead? --Dragon 16:46, 22 September 2006 (BST)
It does have an effect, and it affects all classes of player. However, you probably need the right equipment to spot it. Darksatanic 19:21, 22 September 2006 (BST)
Perhaps you can wear armor without the severe To-Hit penalties? Droll 21:46, 22 September 2006 (BST)
That's it exactly. See here. --Dragon 23:15, 23 September 2006 (BST)

combat rappers'r back in da action

( leader Venom ) as allways i'm rappin' dis town OUT! Venom 12:50, 18 September 2006 (BST)


I have finally managed to complete my rig. (I have still no idea what it does, but I get a 'name party' button when selecting it). I'm going to try it out on 9E 8N, just northeast of Windy City on monday 18th of september at 6 p.m. game time. You are all cordially invited to the party. Bring your instruments, alcohol, mushrooms, red and blue pills, Magic Powder, Strange Powder, Pouch of magic herbs and whatever you need to get into the party atmosphere. The city guards will hopefully enforce strict control of all substance abuse (unless you bribe them...) TerrorRemedy

I'm on my way, things will be strict (unless you give me kudos (lots), vorpral blades, mysterious envenlops, money, or hard nocks supplies) --Qazxcv 17:43, 16 September 2006 (BST)
Screw bribin' da guards kill'em freicken thugs. REMEMBER TAKE DA GUARDS OUT! Venom 01:35, 17 September 2006 (BST)
Note to self: BOTL for Venom because he's DUI --Qazxcv 02:45, 17 September 2006 (BST)
Woodstock is ON!
BEsSzzssst party EVeR!
Songs from the Woodstock festival
(Hey, think you could put some of those songs into the songwriter's guild's page?)Density 14:15, 19 September 2006 (BST)
Sure, but where is that page? Anywhere near the poetry club? TerrorRemedy 22:14, 19 September 2006 (BST)
Guards - we'll have to keep an eye on that Venom, he's gonna be trouble. Bring your armour and pointy sticks, we'll show these damn hippies what for. Tank 13:56, 19 September 2006 (BST)
Has anyone with a gold bling or two tried making stuff? Double AP-regen and half AP-cost seems like a very interesting combination.... TerrorRemedy

A New Island?

Arrrgh! The horror – it’s all true, I tell you – every last word. I have *SEEN* the Small Stone Idol. Read the Johansen Narrative, if you dare -

The Johansen Narrative

- then sail into the Southern Ocean to 144S, 29E. Sail in a circle from this point, and you will find R’1yeh – a gate to other dimensions, coterminous with all time and space, and dwelling of horrors terrible to behold and not meant for the prying eyes of man.

-- Cthu1hu 12:21, 14 September 2006 (BST)

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthu1hu R'1yeh wgah'nagl fhtagn --Sam 12:32, 14 September 2006 (BST)
If Cthulhu rises, can you stop him by slamming the oven door? Nick 14:48, 14 September 2006 (BST)
If Cthu1hu rises, you're not allowed to steal his spot on the couch. -- Cthu1hu 01:46, 15 September 2006 (BST)
Ok I didnt believe this but was on my way home from Oz, read this and looked at my coordinates. I was only 10 squares away from this location. I get to 144S and 29E I try a few circles and notice something odd.
If you start at 29E 144S and move 1E you end up at 402E 600N. If you move 1E from 402E 600N you end up back at 29E 144S. 1S takes you to 30E 144S, 1W takes you to 30E 143S and 1N takes you weirdly to 403E 600N. Move in any other direction than N and you end up back in normal space. Moving N again takes you to 402E 600N and if you move again takes you back to 403E 600N. Seems there is some sort of rift here. Is this a bug or as Cthu1hu says a dimension to horrible to even exist properly. Mad Frank 17:37, 14 September 2006 (BST)
Not a bug. The angles are supposed to be wrong....
Dammit, I was going to make the "Cthu1hu fhtagn" joke. That'll show me for hesitating. --Dithat 19:22, 14 September 2006 (BST)
I'm just glad that 'King elseware didn't ask me to map it :P -- Cthu1hu 01:46, 15 September 2006 (BST)
Found it. You go east from 29E 144S, then North 1, then West one then South one and it appears. A black beach to the east. You got there and there is wailing fishheads, flesh rooms and other weird things. Also left is right and right is left but you still get where you were going. It connects to the KOT keep, a plain by the thieves forest, space and probably other places too but once you step onto one of the real terrains you are transported there and cant get back. Which isnt easily avoided with the way the whole place seems to be spinning round you. All in all a very interesting place to visit. I guess that was your in game reward for winning the map contest? Mad Frank 10:37, 15 September 2006 (BST)
Yup. Pretty wild, huh? I've been spending a lot of time and AP trying to get my head around the place... -- Cthu1hu 00:30, 16 September 2006 (BST)

will it be a new quest? will we have to find the stone idol?

Hrm... I hope they don't seperate us out by the color of our skin and see how long we can survive on the island while Cthulhu is out after us!Density 14:11, 19 September 2006 (BST)


This stone idol is a unique one-off item as part of the prize, although it still costs 100ap to use (that's still quite a bonus). No quests currently start there. Or are planned. But you never know...

There is now a quest there. --Dragon 07:38, 2 October 2006 (BST)

A way to reach the High Plateau?

Following the discussion here, I set up a page for tracking the Ancient Castle. All you people with Astrolabes, or if you just stumble upon it in the terrain please update this page. It may be a way to reach the High Plateau. Or maybe not, who knows... Anyway it would be a AP-cheap way to travel if a route could be established. TerrorRemedy

New healthbar add-on

GM script for firefox, gives you a health bar under your avatar. See Development - jmb 18:15, 10 September 2006 (BST)

The wiki was upgraded!

You no longer get an error when editing pages, and we even have a working search function now.--Solune 13:01, 10 September 2006 (BST)

I created a new tables and copied the data from the old table. The "repair" didn't fix it for very long each time, but hopefully an all new table might fix things.

Invest in PH.FTHR 2day!

Hint that a certain item will shortly be less ridiculously easy to acquire in quantity?

Doubtful. See Elseware's comment here -- Thog 15:02, 8 September 2006 (BST)

combat rappers have been deleted....

Combat rappers have been abandoned because Venom has joined the Military Island Hoppers gang! i suggest if you want to get to an island quickly! you go to the Military Island Hoppers page!

New Scores

New scores added, I presume, today. I'm a bit conserned about the "Tax Paid" one. Stuff like Spice or Magic Powder consumed are, also presumably, either halved each month or just since scores have been kept, as my youthful run of Magic Powder doesn't show up... JohnnyRogers 07:34, 30 August 2006 (BST)

Tax paid is, I assume, from the tax paid on shops (like market stalls, but can hold many, many more items--but you have to pay tax). I assume the other score tables are just starting to count now--I experimented with a few of the new drugs (Strange Powder, Red Pill) earlier this month and they don't seem to be listed. --Dragon 07:19, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Fashion Statements?

As I was about to dispatch a pesky Tar Baby who was blocking a safe path, I equipped a Rusty Sword and, low and behold, a new icon appeared on me right next to my badge! Hovering the mouse over it gave the message: "Fashion: Industrial". This icon goes away after unequipping the Rusty Sword. I didn't go through my whole inventory, but I did equip the rest of my weapons and found that the Bull Whip gave me a different icon with the message: "Fashion: Kinky". Maybe this is old news - anyone else run into this (and what other items make a fashion statement)? --PuddinPop 05:48, 30 August 2006 (BST)

I have Fashion: Pimp, which I presume is due to my wearing Bling. Ravensdance 06:08, 30 August 2006 (BST)
Switching to a Rusty Sword then gives me Fashion: Pimp-Industrial and two icons. Ravensdance 06:10, 30 August 2006 (BST)
This is very new. Some items now have a "fashion score" and the dominant two fashions will be displayed. Wearing armour is military fashion, a baseball cap is "clobber" fashion, anything silver is goth. Safety pins are punk. Bling, shades, etc. are pimp. Also, apparently there are now T-shirts in the game, although I don't know if they're generally available yet. --Dragon 06:30, 30 August 2006 (BST)
Well, I just picked up some fashion apparal(is that how you spell that? I'm male.) Got me a pair of [b]Firefly Trainers[/b]. They seem to be shoes of some sort. I'm now sporting the Clobber badge. Picked them up off a Tree Rat... btw, shouldn't my CATana do extra damage against Tree Rats?Copperisblue 19:48, 30 August 2006 (BST)
Not only is armour "military" fashion. I have no armour as yet, I'm wearing field glasses and magic boots, and have my snark out, and I have "military fasion".Falastur 20:22, 30 August 2006 (BST)
I think it's the field glasses; I have a pair on myself, but no snark or magic boots, and I'm ascribed "military" fashion as well. --Dithat 21:10, 30 August 2006 (BST)
Wearing a Pair of Ear Muffs makes you "cute". For fun you can add the Bull Whip and get "Fashion: Kinky-Cute", which sounds like it would be great for parties. Mig 23:42, 30 August 2006 (BST)

I've added a new page for fashion. jmb 21:32, 1 September 2006 (BST)

Pass in the Andies

A pass has opened in the Andies. The pass is located at 16E, 239S. Inside the Andies you come across Head Hunters, Vorder Mans and Morpheus. The terrain consist of Thick Jungle, which you can't walk through, and Cut Jungle, which you can walk through. TerrorRemedy 05:14, 28 August 2006 (BST)

Thick jungle can be cut. It costs 100 AP for knives, 33 AP for swords, and 1 AP for glass swords. Hbookbinder 02:22, 29 August 2006 (BST)
Does it destroy the glass sword?--Solune 09:32, 29 August 2006 (BST)
No it doesn't
Crap, it's supposed to break the item on the normal chances. Don't get used to this - glass swords should break doing this! Elseware
Well, I've made it aways inside, though now I see that I shouldn't have been able to get so far so easily. So far (I'd love to know if you've found anything different) I've just found jungle, lots of headhunters, one Vordor man I couldn't finish off, the occasional healer or alchemist square and an interior ring of mountains called the "Mountains of the Son" that seem to enclose the dead center of Oz and no pineapples at all. I circled the Mountains of the Son looking for an entrance and found nothing. I hacked most of the way myself, but I found a previous explorer's pathway of cut jungle with the occasional (I assume regrown) jungle square in it along the SE portion of the mountains. Since the pass hasn't been known for long it looks like it doesn't take long for jungle to have a chance grow back. It also seems to grow back in an at least slightly randomized fashion, it's not on a simple timer. Hbookbinder 03:25, 30 August 2006 (BST)
There was no entrance, as of about 3-4 days ago when TerrorRemedy and I circumnavigated them. (I'm a DSS mapper so you can see some of the places we've been. http://survey.darksatanic.net/midmap?x=39&y=-244 ). Elseware said that the jungle takes a random time between 3 and 4 days to grow back. --Dragon 03:20, 30 August 2006 (BST)
There's not much in the jungle yet. More things will be added but it may be days, may be months. The middle bit will not be opened for a long time... maybe never. Elseware 12:01, 30 August 2006 (BST)
Well, I don't think there will be a lot of complaining. Hell, it takes a full days AP just to get a couple of squares through the jungle. Not to mention those freaking Headhunters with their stewpots. Ade 4:22, 31 August 2006 (BST)

venom from combat rappers is on break!

Yes it's true!,the reason i havn't been attending any concert is because i'v been thinking about having a little break from Rap,so i decided to take a holiday in the west from windy city! but unfortunetly i have to use my invisibility cloak to get through Thievs forest! Venom 10:18, 27 August 2006 (BST)

Why not head south to Holiday Island? PlanetNiles 10:25, 27 August 2006 (BST)
Do you have to use a boat to get there? Venom 10:09, 28 August 2006 (BST)
Yes, hence the "island" name. however I'm sure someone will summon you there if you ask nicely. PlanetNiles 11:06, 28 August 2006 (BST)
You could sign up on the Military Island Hoppers page... -- Sertularian 12:13, 28 August 2006 (BST)
OK! Venom 00:54, 30 August 2006 (BST)

Change in chance to hit?

I notice that now the chance to hit is no longer capped at 90%, with 1% bonuses for each 10% over 90% you are. Is this a change for everyone, or is it an effect of becoming a wizard's apprentice?

It's for everyone. --Dragon 18:15, 25 August 2006 (BST)

On a related subject, anyone notice that to-hit is being listed for more things now (esp. alignment wands ...)?

I'd like to note that this gives Fire chars even more reason to do the Caverns. Stevie-O 22:54, 25 August 2006 (BST)
I believe the cap is now at 94%. I have a base of 148% chance to hit and am showing 94% with my items. Jon 00:18, 26 August 2006 (BST)
I've got 97% with a Cruel Blade. Random4518 00:23, 26 August 2006 (BST)
I was so used to everything having the same % to hit, I just based my answer off the rock in my hand. Cruel Blade is 98%, as is my Dusk Tusk & Silver Catana. I think I have new favorite weapons.Jon 00:30, 26 August 2006 (BST)
Very, very nice. It's a little odd not having solid 90's on everything; I'd started to think my skill had been reduced. macksting 23:37, 26 August 2006 (BST)

Vault Permit

You slay the SpaceMonster.
You gain a Vault Permit.

I'm guessing this lets you store stuff in the Vault. Random4518 05:49, 22 August 2006 (BST)

Wizardry for Dummies

Ok, so I'm an apprentice. I have a half-dozen or so spells, but I need mana to cast them. I haven't found mana on any monsters and the various totems in the south don't seem to do anything (although I haven't found the one for my horoscope yet, if that makes a difference). I've also tried eating stuff and hanging around other people to see if I could draw it from them, but so far no luck. Any ideas? Billz8 05:35, 22 August 2006 (BST)

I've got 3 mana, but I've been an apprentice for a while (though with no AP) I assume it's time based, and will slowly regenerate. MrFoo

Stalls vs Markets

While I've always been a big advocate of the markets, I have to confess that I'm totally hooked on having my own stall. Aside from the ease in managing my items, it's nice that when someone comes looking for one item they also see other items I'm selling without having to go past the world's unwanted supply of magic balls. I do have one point of frustration and that is that I still can't remove items from the markets that I've listed for sale. An example of this, I currently have a little over 1600 phoenix feathers listed at 200 GP in the Southern market. For me to buy them all back would require spending nearly 325,000 GP that (last I checked anyway) the game isn't supposed to return when I go to the Market Office. I'd be happy to pay the 1 GP per item fee and even the 1 AP per purchase cost just to be able to go back and take some of my items off the market and put them up for sale in my stall. Any chance of this happening? Pleeeease? Jon 19:31, 21 August 2006 (BST)

That's the lowest price for Phoenix Feathers. Aren't they moving quickly enough? When I get some gold I'd be happy to help you out. Droll 20:11, 21 August 2006 (BST)
Well, I just recently put them up but they were just one example. I'd like to be able to clear out all of my stuff in the markets and use my stall for some items so I can set to purchase items if people are looking to make fast cash. But by all means, please feel free to buy them up. I can always go get more of those. Jon 20:35, 21 August 2006 (BST)
On a random side-note, you might sell those feathers faster if you market them in lots of 100 or so, incrementing or decrementing their cost by 1 for each lot. Right now, people can buy 200 feathers for 200AP from you, or buy the whole lot for a huge sum of cash. PotatoEngineer 01:34, 22 August 2006 (BST)

The Mad Hatter

The Mad Hatter fades in.
The Mad Hatter fades out.

For a second I didn't know what was going on, I was just chilling on holiday island. But then I noticed the two guys hiding in the fort South of where I was no longer had their baseball cap and wizard's hat.

Looks like you can't hide with a hat indefinately.--Hamelin 17:57, 21 August 2006 (BST)

Yep, bastage took my wizards hat from my boat too, and I was porting at cigar island at the time. At least he didn't get my 4 pirate's hats too Syagrius 18:28, 21 August 2006 (BST)
This was elseware, purging a lot of hats. Apparently half of those were wizard hats (including mine). The logic is that there was originally intended to be only one of each hat, and aside from "created" hats like Pirate Hats, the only way to make new hats is by exploiting race condition bugs. It's still sad from a player's perspective though (both the hat-purge itself, and since people went out of their way to protect hats in forts, and Hill Fort Permits are now much less useful, etc. etc.). --Dragon 18:32, 21 August 2006 (BST)
I've always wondered why there were dozens of Wizard's Hats (and other duplicates) but only one crown? Droll 20:08, 21 August 2006 (BST)
So what is the solution going forward? Regular purges, or closer attention to "suspicious" hat doublings? How was it decided which Wizard Hat(s) (there are two now) survived? If the purges are, say, monthly, then the Forts are still probably pretty useful. Droll 20:08, 21 August 2006 (BST)
I wondered how he found me in the vaults as well seeing as I was the only sucker to pay 10,000 gp for going there. It seemed a lot to pay just to nick my bobble hat. Timekeeper 12:27, 21 August 2006 (BST)
I suppose this will make hats nearly unheard-of. As the game grows, the ratio of hats to players will only fall. 20:30, 21 August 2006 (BST)

I too would like to know how the hats were chosen to be nabbed off players... I'm feeling just a little miffed. Capt23n 07:18, 23 August 2006 (BST)

I'd forgotten how slowly my AP regenerated without a hat.  :( -palindrome 17:02, 25 August 2006 (BST)

Market Stalls

I've been to the King's Road, but didn't see stall permits for sale. Did everybody with a stall there pay 500,000 GP at the new market in Air City? Droll 20:13, 14 August 2006 (BST)

No, the 'King was selling them (for 50k apiece) but apparently stopped. Someone got multiple permits and is selling them at their own market stall.  :) The permits also drop from large sea monsters now. --Dragon 16:03, 15 August 2006 (BST)

The air city shop is just a market stall operated by a, maybe unscrupulous, profiteer :) -- LittleHamster 16:09, 15 August 2006 (BST)

I figured as much, since there were only two permits for sale. That shop *is* in a good location. Did anybody pay the 900% markup, I wonder? Thanks for the information, everybody. Droll 18:01, 15 August 2006 (BST)
No but i was frantically searching for lepricorns until i read this... Now I'm just heading down to the ocean...
The proprietor dropped the price to 55000, Only a 10% mark up.

If you have a stall, or are looking to shop at one, check out this page.

Where exactly do you buy Stall Permits and how much?
See Items#Stall_Permit -- LittleHamster 11:30, 18 August 2006 (BST)

Daemonic Chain Saw Auction

Continuing the fine tradition of "using the wiki to sell items so valuable you don't feel comfortable putting a price on them," I offer: one Daemonic Chain Saw. Features include a whopping 11 base damage and a 1/1000 break rate (much lower than normal weapons). Send offers to me by palantir or wikimail. This auction will close...whenever I decide it does. Cheers. --Dragon 01:45, 13 August 2006 (BST)

Going once, going twice... --Dragon 03:01, 16 August 2006 (BST)
The auction has been closed and the winner has been notified by palantir. Thanks all. --Dragon 07:45, 18 August 2006 (BST)

High Plateau

Seems there's a way onto the High Plateau open now (from 21E 128N). Is this new? (It only goes 3 or 4 squares before it ends. I suspect we may need someone with bridge-building skills there) -- Thog 17:52, 3 August 2006 (BST)

No, it's always been like that. Darksatanic 19:02, 3 August 2006 (BST)
So, is there a way to get over to the other side? I'm there at the moment and I can see Great Lord Ruthven on the far side, but nothing I've tried seems to get me across... -- Cthu1hu 07:19, 6 August 2006 (BST)


Unfortunately the Great Lorrds can go where they like without having to follow the rules us mere mortals do. There may be a way across, but no one's found it yet if it does exist. MrFoo 12:21, 6 August 2006 (BST)
Has anyone who's completed the Royal Engineer quest tried building a bridge? Seems to me that'd be perfect to span the plateaus, if there are no limits on where it can be placed -- Thog 04:27, 7 August 2006 (BST)
Bridge Plans don't work (it seems to only allow bridge building over water). Air ship doesn't work either. Is it my imagination, or is the area encompassed by the high plateau bigger than it used to be? My recollection was that the path up was centered on the plateau. Now it extends farther to the north than the south. Hendsch 14:19, 7 August 2006 (BST)

combat rappers are recruiting!

Yes it's true we want you! NOW! so come to this page: combat rappers and you can find out how to contact me to join we need lot's of members! venom 14:21, 31 July 2006 (BST)

Is this really real? Really?
Yes it is true! so please join! combat rappers venom 12:30, 3 August 2006 (BST)


Doc Sy and the lovely Lady Domentzia are getting married at 11pm Cities time, tomorrow - July 30! We're both sitting at the Park Bench in Windy City if you'd like to swing by and say hi! Syagrius 19:31, 29 July 2006 (BST)

Congratulations to both of you! (This obviously calls for a bachelor party. Sert's bringing the booze.  ;) ) --Dragon 22:52, 29 July 2006 (BST)
I will be dere i'm bringin some booze! if yo want me ta sing go ahead ask i don't mind! venom 02:32, 30 July 2006 (BST)
I didn't make the Hen Party so I'm drinking especially hard for you today. Everybody looks sexy after a bottle of fizzy wine. I hope you enjoy the wedding present, a couple of talismans to the Villa on Holiday Island. Happy honeymooning. Caroline 07:32, 31 July 2006 (BST)
Drinks are on me! Erm, some of them seem to be rather "special". ;) Hope you enjoy your presents, Sy and Tzia! -- Sertularian 01:38, 31 July 2006 (BST) (sipping a RL Exotic Cocktail in your honor...)
  • Thank you everyone for attending. We're currently holed up in our hill fort (thank you, whoever gave this to us. We forgot to log all the gifts!) next to the King's Road. We would also like to thank 'King elseware for attending, and for the lovely wedding cake and matched wedding rings he gave to us. We hope the wedding rings don't wear out like the blings do :) In-game, we'll be out of action for another day or so as we get our RL back in order (and go back to work). Thanks again everyone! Syagrius 14:32, 2 August 2006 (BST)
The rings should not break. Elseware 15:51, 2 August 2006 (BST)
  • Congratulations and forgive my absence from the festivities. You see, I was protecting the realm from nasties far and wide. I offer my very best wishes on your marriage and if there is a make-up date for the bachelor party, please make sure I'm there. Even if you need to summon me from the very clutches of Death itself. Jon 21:54, 2 August 2006 (BST)

Invisible Southern Barrier?

So, there I was drifting southwards on my raft, when all of a sudden I bump into a big invisible barrier.Someone earlier mentioned the edge of the world at 200S, but I'm only at 89S. A line at 90S, running east-west from at least 83E to 94E (according to my map), seems to have been removed from the world. I can see more Ocean south of it, but can't proceed.


Is this something new? Is there some great terraforming project going on? Or something else? --Sam 18:00, 28 July 2006 (BST)

Did your boat poke a hole through a wall that was painted like the sky? Are we really the stars of some kind of a sick television show? Let me know if you find the exit! -palindrome 03:53, 29 July 2006 (BST)
Perhaps this should be put on the bugs page, so the programmers can look into it? Syagrius 19:31, 29 July 2006 (BST)
I bumped into someone down there you had just been 'forcibly relocated' northwards. I reckon there's something going on rather than a bug (though if it is a bug, I'm guessing the developers read this page anyway). --Sam 09:47, 30 July 2006 (BST)
Great Barrier Reef perhaps?

The New Server

There's a new server! It's so fast! The G-forces are killing me! Stevie-O 01:28, 14 July 2006 (BST)

Seriously, though. The new server kicks ASS.

I was having problems before with pages not loading completely, both in-game and here on the wiki, and started playing exclusively over broadband. Now, with the new server, it often takes two or three tries before a page will load completely -- again, with a cable connection. Pings seem to go through fine, with an average transit between 1.75 and 2.5 ms. Weird. Firefox must not like me. -- Celane 04:57, 14 July 2006 (BST)
I've had blank pages 2-3 times today. I don't know if that's related. -- LittleHamster 14:31, 14 July 2006 (BST)
Messed around with browser (cache) settings; problem seems solved. -- Celane 14:00, 15 July 2006 (BST)

yeah, thank you my king for the new server, I would offer you another sandwich but I seem to have run out of components. --Solune 11:07, 14 July 2006 (BST)

Ahh, it has been a pain lately. Thank you my 'king, let me give you a huge hug and kiss *SMACKKK* Peskil 14:10, 14 July 2006 (BST)

To be fair, Ruthven did most of the work. Elseware 03:43, 16 July 2006 (BST)
The only pages I can't get any more (so far) are in 'sales to players' & 'chalk tagging points' in the league tables. Prolly my own fault, I'm just a simple soul. Things do seem to be quicker in general. Thank you most high and puissant King and all respect to Lord Ruthven. Dendrast 03:56, 16 July 2006 (BST)
I've shifted the hourly and monthly scripts to the new server - that should sort the scores tables.
Thank you
There currently are no hourly/daily hat bonuses and no bashing league bonuses. Is this a bug related to this change, or is that the new order of things? Hendsch 13:48, 25 July 2006 (BST)
No, it was a mis-configuration of the scripts. Let me know if you don't get the hat bonus on the next hour. Darksatanic 14:28, 25 July 2006 (BST)
No bonus. Hendsch 15:26, 25 July 2006 (BST)
Should be fixed now. Darksatanic 19:08, 25 July 2006 (BST)
I got my bonuses. Thanks! Hendsch 13:56, 26 July 2006 (BST)
Some tables are incomplete. (There are players who I know have died at least once who are not shown on the Times Died table, for instance.) --BlaisedeC 17:49, 25 July 2006 (BST)

Unable to Die

Twice now I've tried to commit suicide... Only to wake up in the water city hospital. Whats with that?

How have you attempted it? Darksatanic 11:15, 14 July 2006 (BST)
Attacked a rock with an empty mug, attacked a Thunderbird with my fists, attacked a vampire with a walking stick. I get hit down to 2 hp points and then wake up in water city with 15 hp points.
Bah. One of the fixes for another bug I put in earlier in the week caused this. You should be able to fulfil your suicidal tendencies now. Darksatanic 14:35, 14 July 2006 (BST)

Nerfing of Bling

I have had a long period where I have carefully managed my Bling (One Gold, and One Major Healing) and they have lasted a significant period (probably two months since I got them). Then yesterday, I lose both, and Iron Bling and an Opal Bilng all in about 100AP. Previously they had not worn out if I didn't wear them while moving. Has the rule the chance of the Bling wearing out apply to all AP expended? Or is it just bad luck? Baldrick 03:43, 13 July 2006 (BST)

Bling used to only wear out when you moved. As of yesterday, many bling wear out when they are used. The Gold Bling has a chance of wearing out each time you spend AP, and the Iron Bling has a chance of wearing out each time you take damage (but not when you move). The Bling page was updated accordingly. Darksatanic didn't mention a change to the break percentage either here or on IRC though, so it sounds like a run of bad luck combined with the new rules. --Dragon 06:00, 13 July 2006 (BST)
I'll be moving more bling (and other selected equippables) over to break on usage rather than movement. This will hopefully reduce the server load of people putting on and taking off blings all the time, as they then won't break as you move around, but only when you use them. Darksatanic 12:05, 13 July 2006 (BST)
If this was your intention it will not work because movement also uses AP. Why should I risk to loose a bling while doing stupid actions or simply moving around? I will rather continue to put it on and off. Peskil 13:46, 13 July 2006 (BST)
Only with blings that have an AP-based effect, like healing blings or gold blings. You can walk around all you like wearing an iron bling, and it won't ever break. With a gold bling, you can halve the cost of movement on the ocean, for example, so the test for breakage on AP spend is correct, in that instance (as is the similar test for healing blings).
There are currently three event triggers that may be used to test for breakage on:
  • on move (default)
  • on ap spend (gold and healing blings)
  • on taking damage (iron bling)
I will be adding more generic triggers which will allow (for example) misril blings to have a chance of breaking only when used for mining. The intent is that ultimately you won't be able to get the benefit of the item without risking it breaking. Darksatanic 14:52, 13 July 2006 (BST)
This sounds like the same reason I had two winged boots wear out within 30ap of each other. Or maybe I was just really unlucky... Kaos Dragon 20:21, 13 July 2006 (BST)
It's not just you. I had some Snowshoes wear out in 15 steps a few days ago. Not cost effective. -- Celane 20:24, 13 July 2006 (BST)
Both of these are just bad luck. The code for them didn't change. Darksatanic 20:27, 13 July 2006 (BST)
This is just the well known cities random 'bug'. There are quite a few stories of things breaking in a row. Personally, my unlucky stories include losing 3 air swords in 3 hits and jumper developed holes twice in one morning. (Actually the jumper thing happened twice, ie 4 holes in two mornings).
Does this mean that healing blings will only wear out when they heal you?
It's a thought, but no, the test is on AP spend, not on increasing HP as a result. Darksatanic 23:13, 13 July 2006 (BST)
In a similar vein, it'd be nice if Magic Boots could only break if they actually saved you AP. Random4518 06:29, 14 July 2006 (BST)

Speedboat for sale

For those that don't want to go through the hassle of collecting copper, tar, and 30 (!) pieces of ancient wood, I have an extra speedboat, available powered or unpowered. Please Palantir Me if you'd like to make an offer. Droll 16:09, 11 July 2006 (BST) Droll can you please reserve the speed boat for me i'll palantir you as soon as i get one and i'v got about 12000 Gold Pieces! Venom 01:56, 12 July 2006 (BST) Sorry, I already have an offer that is better than that. Droll 02:39, 12 July 2006 (BST) well really i have 14000 Please! i beg you i need one more than them!!! Venom 08:05, 12 July 2006 (BST)

Venom, to make the unpowered speed boat, Droll has put in 30 pieces of ancient wood. Have you looked at how much they cost on the markets? I think he'll be looking for a lot more than 14k in gold. I think his other offers would most likely include rare and wonderful items. -- LittleHamster 09:37, 12 July 2006 (BST)
Yes, the tiny rodent is correct. The boat has been traded, and it was indeed rare and wonderous substances that were offered. I would put their market value upwards of 100,000 GP. Sorry, Venom. Droll 15:16, 13 July 2006 (BST)
How about a clinic invite? would that be of any interest of you? --Ziabatsu 09:40, 15 July 2006 (BST)
That is interesting! The boat is sold, but I could probably scrape together the raw materials for another one. Droll 14:04, 15 July 2006 (BST)
there is a speedboat for 200K at the southern market. That's only worth a level 64 Phoenix ! --Solune 19:48, 25 July 2006 (BST)

New Attempt at Lending Library

A coalition of players spearheaded by Duke BlaisedeC MD, Duke Stevie-O MD, and Duke Dragon MD are attempting to assemble a new set of book bags for the lending library. Details are in Ograhs Book Club. -- 20:38, 9 July 2006 (BST)

Water City Power Plant

So any clue what this does or if it will do anything? I scoped it out and found out nothing, except where it starts and ends. The power plant is right south of water city, but it connects to a pipeline that runs directly south and meets the pumping station at 93e 80n.... My guess big explosion leading to new underground tunnels.

93e 91n Power Plant
93e 80n Pumping Station

I've got the 'Plant Bean' option on the pipeline. Just gives me a cucumber though. Nothing exciting. I'm sure this will be the entrance to the north-east tunnels. -- LittleHamster 21:05, 5 July 2006 (BST)

According to IRC, people are getting into the NE tunnels through the caves. Rumor has it there's a passage just north of Standing Stone III, but I haven't been there yet myself so I don't know the exact coordinates. --Dragon 02:13, 6 July 2006 (BST)
Are they sure those are the NE tunnels and not the SE tunnels? The location seems to better parallel the SW tunnels than the NW tunnels... --BlaisedeC 02:31, 6 July 2006 (BST)
But Stone III is at 71E 62N. That's more north than 50N. -- LittleHamster 15:58, 6 July 2006 (BST)
Yes, but the NW tunnels are north of the main map, while the SW tunnels are in the interior like these are. --BlaisedeC 16:38, 6 July 2006 (BST)
So? Who said the NE tunnels have to mirror NW? MrFoo 16:49, 6 July 2006 (BST)
The thing is there was a message about lava in the north scaring Tauntauns, so Thats where the NE tunnels are. Someone has to find them though... I got nothing.
The two things may not be related. There may have been two seperate developments at the same time. MrFoo 18:19, 6 July 2006 (BST)

Although the entrance to the NW tunnels are in the frozen north, almost the entire tunnel network is in the NW quadrant of the main cities area and the NW altar is just 2 squares north of the SW altar. Whether these tunnels should be designated NE or SE will depend on which altar (if any) they lead to. I haven't finished exploring (or found an altar, obviously(, but given the territory they cover, I suspect these will be the NE tunnels. Hendsch 17:46, 6 July 2006 (BST)

Rave in a Cave

There is a "rave in a cage" going on at 7E 46S. I can enter the square but "Join party (10AP)" only gives me a blank window. Maybe I need some mushrooms first? Leffen 12:48, 29 June 2006 (BST)

Ditto. Jenali 15:16, 29 June 2006 (BST)
Jenali had the great idea that we have to build the equipment. Speaker (1) and Slip Mats are here, who has Amps and Records? Leffen 17:27, 29 June 2006 (BST)
Got a speaker, a record and shrooms for the whole world! Let's party! vloodo 22:10, 29 June 2006 (BST)
Got 4 speakers, 2 amps, a slipmat, a record, and some needles.Hbookbinder 06:37, 4 July 2006 (BST) When's the party?
I have a couple of records. (John Denver and Olivia Newton John, but still...) -- Sertularian 03:57, 30 June 2006 (BST)
Anybody need a summon down here? Let me know. Jenali 05:46, 30 June 2006 (BST)
Yes please! I've got a speaker and a slip mat and some mushrooms if they are needed. Srboneidle2 09:51, 30 June 2006 (BST)
There is no Tading Post nearby so probably its better to meet in Brighthelm. Leffen 11:08, 30 June 2006 (BST)
I've made my way to Brighthelm. I'm at the Pavilion. Srboneidle2 17:53, 30 June 2006 (BST)
bug fixed. see http://cities.totl.net/cgi-bin/build.xml for recipies.
So, what we need seems to be 2 amps (we have 1), 2 slipmats (we have enough), 10 records (we have err... 3-4?), 4 speakers (we have 4) and 2 decks (who's got this?). So, we're halfway there, I'd say. Maybe we should make a rave club on a separate page? vloodo 16:14, 30 June 2006 (BST)
I'm still getting 'being hit over the head lessons' (what a stupid concept), but I'll drop by as soon as I'm through with a record and a slip mat. Sorry, no herb or shrooms, but I'd be happy to get pissed and dance. Dendrast 02:55, 4 July 2006 (BST)

Ancient Castle?

At 1 AM, as I was strolling toward Standing Stone V, I came across this at 63E 71N:

Ancient Castle: An old, large, fortified castle. It somehow doesn't seem to take up as much space  
as it should do, and there is an odd blurring effect around it.

The words "Ancient Castle" in the description were linked in typical fashion to http://wiki.cities.totl.net/index.php?title=RuthvenCastle.

After finishing up my last Standing Stone an hour later, I decided to go back to this mysterious castle and wait for a while to see if any options showed up. Well, I logged back in a few minutes ago, and the square has turned into a regular old Desert! Did I miss something? Or was Ruthven just jealous of Ignatz's Retreat? Mig 05:17, 29 June 2006 (BST)

I encountered it on Tuesday at 95E 21S whilst mapping the great desert. I had to fight my way through a dragon to get to it and ran out of AP with the final blow. A couple of seconds later, around 14:00 hours, it had vanished. I presumed it to be a mirage and, after spending 24 hours mapping the local while trying to keep the spot that castle appeared in sight in case it reappeared, I moved on. Maybe there's a pattern to its movements and some way of entering... PlanetNiles 09:09, 29 June 2006 (BST)
I've just seen it by the Night Shrine Nick 23:17, 29 June 2006 (BST)


A few minutes after 6:00 AM I checked in, the Castle was back at 63E 71N (d'oh, made a typo before). It's now slightly after 1:35 PM and I have been checking in every hour; it hasn't left. Couldn't get any options to come up. Mig 13:38, 30 June 2006 (BST)
It's currently one square south of the Fiddling Wizard Folk Club. And, in case anyone was curious, it's not possible to write with chalk (I checked all three kinds) or plant a Magic Bean on its square. I'm going to hang out here and see if I go with it the next time it moves... Random4518 05:00, 9 July 2006 (BST)
Nope, it doesn't take you with it. Random4518 20:51, 9 July 2006 (BST)

This is surely the Castle mentioned by the Emissary...

"Heard anything about a vanishing castle?"

...or so I believe.--LordAsriel 17:36, 1 July 2006 (BST)

Reconstructing Wriggling Road

A few months ago Billz8 had the great idea of building a Road through the desert out of worms. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough maintance done and now the road is no more. I personally loved that road and now am planning on reconstructing it. I started at the same place as the original (57E 8S) and have been plowing my way through living tars and mimics. If anyone is interested, come help me open a can of.... worms on these baddies. --Gaccm 09:44, 26 June 2006 (BST)

I've been trying to map a relatively safe route across great desert so when I'm next in the area I might be able to give you a hand. PlanetNiles 14:41, 26 June 2006 (BST)
Gaccm, the use of worms is not going to be very effective since worms now die within two weeks. I don't think that there is enough interest in maintaining the road for that to work. My suggestion is to have aligned paths. If you use your wands to change monsters to your own alignment they will frequently let you pass (it works best with small dragons). DWE 17:18, 26 June 2006 (BST)
You'd need four roads, one for each alignment. - Isambard 18:02, 26 June 2006 (BST)
... and it still wouldn't work, now that all monsters eventually die. Darksatanic 19:05, 26 June 2006 (BST)
So what we need is a dedicated team(s) to keep a path open across the desert PlanetNiles 19:22, 26 June 2006 (BST)
Maybe the desert can be skipped entirely. The dedicated team could work to keep the marketplace stocked with Brighthelm Rocks (nearly at-cost, breaking even by selling in bulk), or there could be a summoning group, like the Island Hoppers. Random4518 00:25, 27 June 2006 (BST)
You can't use the Brightonhelm Rocks if you've never visited the city. I know - I've tried YFM
Or maybe you can just educate people to 1) take the trail between windy city and school of hard knocks (there are 3-4 oasis on route), 2) wand mimics and mimics only, and 3) don't fight. Why is crossing the desert hard anyway? I believe a Wriggling Road is better served in the Caverns. -- LittleHamster 07:54, 27 June 2006 (BST)
Good routes are: 6E 8S and go straight south, gives you 30 desert squares and three oasis on route (6E 14S, 6E 26S, 6E 33S). It will land you close to School of Hard knocks. Or alternatively 24E 8S and go straight south, gives you 29 desert squares and 2 oasis on route (24E 12S, 24E 32S). A third oasis is 'close' to the path at 21E 23S, but will give you extra distance to go. This path will land you close to Betty Fnords clinic. TerrorRemedy 16:02, 27 June 2006 (BST)

You feel like you owe (a person) a favour...

Has anyone else got a mysterious message something like this: "You feel like you owe (someone's name) a favour?" I got one last week, for someone I've not otherwise come across. By chance, I managed to do something to repay the favour, or so I think (while on my way to sign up for the gauntlet I found them in the middle of a duel, and on half the HP of the other duellist. I healed them up, and when I emerged from the gauntlet they were in the same square, but out of the duel. I'm hoping that they hadn't moved because they won the duel while offline thanks to my intervention). But now I'm wondering why I felt I owed them a favour, and is there some specific way of paying it back. Is it some previously unheard-of Kudos effect? Rackmount 16:58, 3 May 2006 (BST)

If you've died recently, your corpse was probably found and returned to a KoT donation point. You can retrieve it from the morgue whenever you feel like it. Kaos Dragon 17:26, 3 May 2006 (BST)

I'm quite certain that's the source of the message. Someone I know, whose character died, got this message (and the corpse was in the morgue). -- Sertularian 18:33, 3 May 2006 (BST)

Well there certainly did turn out to be one of my corpses in the KoT morgue - but I died well over a month ago, back when I wasn't even a knight. I can't believe that it took all that time for someone to kill an Undine, or whatever lowly critter scragged me. Ah well! If that's what it was, then thank you Knights, and thank you Baron Lona MD! (for that is who the someone was) Rackmount 18:56, 3 May 2006 (BST)

It is afterall, an Undine. How many of us go around killing them :) -- LittleHamster 06:50, 6 May 2006 (BST)


Hi, I'm new here. Could some kind people help me?

Sick Earth Worm

I was heading back to the mountains from market to find myself some garlic when I happened upon a worm. I didn't think much about it, but this worm caught my eye. While he still had his one hit point, he was clearly quite sick. It said so right in his description. He was not an earth worm, he was a sick earth worm.

What kind of blight is killing the animals of our cities?

I tried to give him a dose of antidote, in case he was poisoned, but... well, I've been around and he's too scared of me to let me touch him.

Does anyone know anything about this?Density 02:37, 10 April 2006 (BST)

Apparently, there is some kind of disease that the Earth Worms picked up when they were introduced into the desert (see the Wriggling road) - which is a foreign land to them - and they have spread it to the rest of the population.
On a side observation, the Earth Worms in Space seem to have the chance of affliction as those on the Ground. I guess they can't stand the low atmosphere... MrBlarney 08:29, 11 April 2006 (BST)

Retirement Village

Is this new? Just NE of Earth City. Head North and look for road on the right. Scary. DiscoBean 20:29, 31 March 2006 (BST)

New_Stuff#Retirement_Village Here's the info. --Caol 20:58, 31 March 2006 (BST)

Edge of the World found

At great expense the Duke Nomex has found the end of the World. After nearly being eaten by Krakens, pecked to death by Gulls, and a near mutiny the great Duke is reporting one edge of the World is 0E 200S. Fearing being sucked off into the void by vast waterfalls he approched no closer than 4 units of any edge. The Duke continues his travels East to determine if rumors of a "New World" are true. The Duke's only regret on this adventure is the lack of a Wizard's Hat to speed the journey. One unusual group hallucination of a "messenger on a bicycle" was reported by the crew.

"'E was ridin' up on da water! I think it was der fella Jesus on a Schwinn." Exclaimed one crewman.

Further developments will be reported by homing Gulls Nomex 16:16, 27 March 2006 (BST)

Lucky me, I have a wizards hat so I might beat you there. --Duke Slith MD 16:32, 22 April 2006

Thee Hippocratic Order of Flying Doctors

THOFD is dedicated to the wellbeing of noble adventurers. We appreciate that there's not always a healer or doctor on call around when you want one, so this is an initiative to make low HP history.

If you can't find a healer, summon me! I'm always on call, so summon me, click the red + and get healed. Obviously I can only be summoned to places where players can be summoned to, so I can't help you with personal challenges like the Gauntlet or Kansas, but anywhere in the Kingdom of the 4 Cities ought to be fine.

Liz Asher 14:15, 9 March 2006 (GMT)

Gruther4 16:45, 9 March 2006 (GMT) Can't always promise to have AP, though :)

Support Free Speech

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Earth City Dump

How long has it been around? Are there any in other cities?

The Citizen

Just wanted to say great job to whomever wrote the citizen. Has anyone figured out how to get to page 3? Hendsch 15:45, 8 March 2006 (GMT)

Certainly not! Disgraceful, in a family newspaper. Loved the rest of it, though. Are we going to start seeing reporters around the four cities and have to watch who we talk to for fear of being misquoted? Vashka 16:16, 8 March 2006 (GMT)

Talisman Maker

The Talisman Maker is at 81E 83N - a trail leads here from the East.

The Master Talisman maker works here. He has a large book collection, all sci-fi
paper backs, but he's always on the lookout for more.

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Not sure what this means, I was at the Kings Library Tony Namone 21:44, 28 Feb 2006 (CST)

  'King elseware says 'Did you know there'ZSssS a Bard named IzzZzssZam (from the Kingdom of
  Brunel). He says he needzzZzssZ 5502 sSzzssstring to make a sSzzssspace elevator. Or
  wazzZzssZ it a stairway to heaven? I forget... (hic)'
He needs 5502 strings to make a space elevator?? e.bstan 04:11, 1 March 2006 (GMT)
Funny :) There is a player named "Earl Isambard MD" in the 'kings palace. And 'King elseware was mentioning about a Bard named IzzZzssZam. :D e.bstan 04:51, 1 March 2006 (GMT)
It's a nice refererence to wikipedia:Isambard_Kingdom_Brunel a great engineer. So it looks like he's come back from the grave to live amongst us. I assume if we can get 5,502 strings together, we/he can make a space elevator. Means everyone might be able to ge to Cloud_Land or Outer_Space which needs a rocket currently. MrFoo 10:13, 1 March 2006 (GMT)
There's a player Isam sitting at the Construction Site at 29E 40N. He's wearing a badge saying "Still need 991 Short String". Thog 15:29, 3 March 2006 (GMT)
Badge currently says "659 Short String to go..." Srboneidle 17:46, 4 March 2006 (GMT)

The Desert is Warm

I got the following message:

You are a bit warm.

After playing around a bit, I get it whenever I'm in a Desert (not necessarily the Great Desert, just any desert square). Is this new? Does it have any short- or long-term effect? It goes away as soon as I leave the desert... --Dragon 05:35, 3 March 2006 (GMT)

The deserts now have a temperature, like the frozen north. Don't worry, unless you go past "too hot". The main use is that you can get rid of frostbite quicker by spending AP in deserts or the great desert. Elseware 14:38, 3 March 2006 (GMT)

Lava Near Fire City

Syagrius, your wish has been granted! You may now dump your *preciousss* in the volcano! e.bstan 08:48, 3 March 2006 (GMT)

No! The One Bling is MINE! Syagrius 19:32, 3 March 2006 (GMT)

Argh - Lava everywhere! Anyone try to reach the volcano yet? --Googleplex 09:54, 3 March 2006 (GMT)

I didn't try to find it, cause I had no idea where it was, but i saw a lot of lave near the inner mountains near fire city, but none inside them. Jatt 16:34, 3 March 2006 (GMT)

  • there has also been larva near the hermits hut. Zoological, 3 march
So what will safely cross the lava? Or do you just have to find a way between rivers of it? macksting 07:07, 5 March 2006 (GMT)
Personally, I'd be wanting to fly over it if possible (busy doing something else at the moment). ELeeming 10:34, 6 March 2006 (GMT)


This is an extremely long discussion of the coded messages that have been appearing around the cities lately. Read it all by clicking the link above.

Naughty Hats

Some players have been seen wandering around recently wearing naughty hats.

Polychromatic Dragon Hunt

Some players have been putting together search parties to find and kill Polychromatic Dragons.

Distant Rumbling to the North

Discussion of the opening of the Frozen North. Also a valuable discussion of Frostbite.


On the discovery of Barbelith talismans.

King's Birthday

MMM....delicious cake... A discussion of its effects.

IP Analysis

I've done a quick scan of players coming from the same IP. IP Scan.

Christmas Crackers

Find another person, and pull you cracker with them. Winner gets a hat and a gift! (what happens if you were allready wearing a hat?)

They do the discount thing.-- 20:07, 30 Dec 2005 (GMT)

I tried using it on a duck, and the duck ended up wearing the hat. Killed the duck, got the hat. Poetry!

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