Talk:Current events

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I like this old format a lot better. We just have to clear out old 'current events' much more regularly, possibly archiving into an old events page. LittleHamster 06:57, 9 March 2006 (GMT)
I can't help but think how sad it is to see so little update to the Current Events page during this Great Password Catastrophe. Doc Mackie 20:23, 5 March 2007 (GMT)

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Advertisements

Recently there have been a number of advertisements cropping up on this page. In short, I think it clutters Current Events and is better suited for other pages. While these pages do get less traffic, I think they'd get more traffic if people actually used them rather than just spamming Current Events.

So, how about a compromise: Keep Current Events free of ads itself, but have an "ad sidebar" on the page (use a Template similar to the ones on the items pages) that links to the five or so newest shameless advertisements. What do people think? --Dragon 06:21, 17 March 2007 (GMT)

Not a bad idea, but I remember a version of the Current Events page that had that kind of sidebar being met with rude opposition. I'm willing to try it, but you're fighting an uphill battle as the CE page has been used for all kinds of advertising since it was created.
Perusing the page now, you will find things that should properly be placed in help, requests for information, trading post, and classifieds, among others. Until the page is used so often that these things begin pushing other key info off the page, I don't see your efforts as necessary or likely to succeed.Billz8 06:32, 17 March 2007 (GMT)
It seems a little unfair that people who *do* use the other pages (Help, Classifieds, Trading Post etc) properly are rewarded with less traffic to those pages because everyone else just watches Conversation/Current Events and only respond to the annoying people who innappropriately post on there for their own gain. It is my opinion that outside of Trading Post and Classifieds and Shops/user's own pages, people should keep advertising off the wiki - it is especially annoying when people post it on the quest pages, like the Cucumber Factory ad that has been on the Becoming an Earl page for ages. The advertising appropriate pages *would* get more traffic if people started using them more, so why don't you help us start? Spugmeistress 18:10, 17 March 2007 (GMT)
p.s. however i *would* like to see more shops clearly advertising their current prices/stock etc. because it's hard to know what's out there, unless you trawl the king's approach, and even then you miss loads. But, not on Conversation/Current Events, because that's not what they're for. Spugmeistress 18:17, 17 March 2007 (GMT)

Ads only work if they are placed where potential consumers will see them. Putting it on the "Becoming an Earl" page is targeted advertising. I placed my offer on the "classifieds" page as well in the hopes of helping it develop, but until it does, it won't bring me any help for my project--and isn't collaboration what the game is all about? I *could* go and create some alts to plant cucumbers for me, but that wouldn't be in keeping with the spirit of the game.

I guess my biggest question is: why now? why this post? Since the CE page was created, probably 50% of its posts could be called ads, and another 30% or so should properly be placed on "requests for information." (Obviously an informal study, but it's a lot). The thing is, when people are trying to recruit others to help with a project, that is an "event" in the Cities world. So I don't understand the issue here. Would you like a separate page that is used only to announce new developments like the mountain passes or new quests opening? Then I say, make one! In fact, there already is a "New Stuff" page, so let's move all of those posts off too. Where do you draw the line? Sorry for the long post, I'm thinking out loud. I would really like to come to a fair compromise--I don't care where I post stuff, just that it get read. Billz8 18:43, 17 March 2007 (GMT)

I feel that some of the pages of the wiki are informational (e.g. quest or item pages), some are conversational (Conversation, Current Events), and some are commercial (Trading Post, etc.). I like this separation--and it's not just ads, the Monsters page has been periodically cleared from random chatter (although it will never fully gone away). Your post wasn't the first, but it was very blatant and that's probably why it was targeted originally. After that, it's probably your persistence in putting it back up that made it continue to be a target.
"New Stuff" seems to be where the developers announce new stuff from their side (when they deign to). Current Events is IMHO the equivalent for mortals. --Dragon 19:05, 17 March 2007 (GMT)

Ad Sidebar

An ad sidebar has been added, and a few current advertisements have been put there. Do people like it? Is this a good substitute for making a new Current Event, and a good way to direct people to promising-but-infrequently-used pages such as Classifieds? Post your opinions here. Also note that while the Current Events page is currently protected, you can add things to the ad sidebar by editing Template:Advertisements. --Dragon 19:05, 17 March 2007 (GMT)

Not bad. A couple suggestions: Make the title "In-game Advertisements" to distinguish from the random crap that sometimes gets posted. Also, the subheading is unfinished and ends with "go ." ...where? Otherwise this could work pretty well. I'm willing to give it a go. Billz8 19:15, 17 March 2007 (GMT)
I see "... go here.", where "here" is a link to the Template page that it comes from. Note that the Template:Advertisements page isn't locked, so you can edit that should you wish to improve it. Be gentle, though. Darksatanic 19:18, 17 March 2007 (GMT)
Something's still funky. I've tried in both IE and Firefox, and I still see "go ." I have no idea how to edit this or fix it, because I don't know where the page is to edit. My wiki-foo is weak. Billz8 14:23, 18 March 2007 (GMT)
The page is at Advertisements, but I have no idea why you're not seeing the link. --Dragon 15:20, 18 March 2007 (GMT)
Hmmm...here, again, I have the same problem. To me, your post above reads "The page is at , but I have no idea..." As I edit it now, though, I can see that you put the link in there. Any ideas why it would be funky like that? Another note: when I type in the address I can go to the page, but not edit it. Wassup? Billz8 20:42, 18 March 2007 (GMT)
The only thing I could possibly think of would be if your browser had overly-aggressive adblocking software to the point where it did away with links containing the word "advertisement"...try a different browser, or disabling plugins, perhaps. If that doesn't work, I really don't know. --Dragon 21:56, 18 March 2007 (GMT)

I've tried two browsers and I have very low security settings. I've tried going to http://wiki.cities.totl.net/w/Template:Advertisements, but cannot find a way to edit it. It's frustrating, to say the least. Is there perhaps another way to put the link up to where it can be edited? Otherwise all this is no help to me, because I still have no way to advertise when needed. Billz8 01:08, 21 March 2007 (GMT)

There's a link after this (in case you can't see it) that should take you directly to the edit page: http://wiki.cities.totl.net/index.php?title=Template:Advertisements&action=edit --Dragon 02:18, 21 March 2007 (GMT)

As to wether or not Billz8 posts are spam

I think it is clear that they are advertisement: the purpose of these posts is to attract the attention of other people in order to develop a company's business. Now, several people (including me) have expressed the opinion that they didn't want to see advertisement on the conversation page. Therefore it is unwelcomed advertisement, in other words spam. It is no use [User_talk:Isambard#Billz8 denying it]].--Solune 20:04, 17 March 2007 (GMT)

about the use of the trading and classified pages

The trading page does work for two reasons. One is circular: people don't go because it does work, etc. And the other (in my case) is because they don't want to do business. I happy enough with selling my spares at the market and looking for stuff there. And if I need something special, I found that shouting my wishes at party works well enough.--Solune 20:04, 17 March 2007 (GMT)

Got a point there. If the Trading Post sees less traffic now than it used to, this partially has to do with parties being such a great, centralized source of trade. Doc Mackie 13:37, 19 March 2007 (GMT)

general trolling

There are legal ways of avertising. By instance, one can create a page concerning his shop and write there his prices, infos about his trades, etc. But the Cucumber Sandwich Factory not only was not updated since the 20th of November, but hasn't got accurate prices, nor indication about the new offer.

done complaining, feels good, don't worry about me, I'm just trolling--Solune 20:04, 17 March 2007 (GMT)

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