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While at first glance this seems like a way to gain X's, I am curious if there is more than that. Can you take letters and combine them into other things, say records? Also, if you dissolved a blank talisman, would you get the label letters as well? Making a talisman to abcdefghi.... would give you useful letters. -- X-Himy 14:17, 21 March 2007 (GMT)

Considering that the dissolution spell takes a record as a spell component, it seems less than useful to make records that way, even if you could. -- Thog 15:58, 21 March 2007 (GMT)
Agreed. I wouldn't waste a record and a 2nd-level spell just to get an X. This is only useful if the other letters can be used in some way. Combining them back into items would be very, very powerful, since you could melt down common items and spell rare ones...so perhaps it's something different. Feeding them to Spelling Bees and combining a bunch with Soup have both been suggested. As for the label, that's an interesting thing to try, and one could use a Memo rather than a talisman. If that doesn't work, you could hire an Armourer to build you a 1-damage, 1-use, -50% to-hit custom weapon with an interesting name... --Dragon 16:10, 21 March 2007 (GMT)
You don't have to use a Record if you've completed the Trail of Trials quest. - Isambard 16:46, 31 March 2007 (BST)

Best Items to Dissolve

Since you cannot dissolve unique items and memos, what are the best items to dissolve for the maximum amount of letters. Granted, the letters needed depend on the words that the Reptiles sport, but certain letters are more common than others and thus are needed more often. In addition, the more letters you get from an item, the better. So, what are the best items to dissolve? -- X-Himy 21:03, 26 September 2007 (BST)

I dissolved a lot of CD singles and sci-fi novels (I got a lot of mileage out of Copy of Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! a man after midnight), slices of crocodile dundee cake, and a few big blue india rubber balls. hendsch 21:17, 26 September 2007 (BST)

Precisely, could we make a list of the reptiles' names to check if the english distribution of letters applies ?--Solune 21:30, 26 September 2007 (BST)

I'm starting a list of items with the highest count of a single letter (that one's for those emergency cases where you just know you'll need 8 Vs in a row). Once we're done figuring out the real frequency, this list might be futile :-p Replace these words if you find better ones. Flt 08:03, 27 September 2007 (BST)
Maybe if I'm non-lazy enough I'll make a tool that will help with this sort of thing...
  1. A: Stranger in a Strange Land (hardback) (6) Align Area to Water Spell (4)
  2. B: Big Blue India-Rubber Ball (5), Big Red India-Rubber Ball (4)
  3. C: Daemonic Chainsaw Nunchucks (4), Slice of Crocodile Dundee Cake (4)
  4. D: (Crispy) Shredded Duck Bit (4), Quad-speed CD-ROM Drive (4), Didgeridoo (3)
  5. E: Seaweed Surprise Ice Cream (6), Bottle of Creme De Menthe (6)
  6. F: Pair of Firefly Trainers (3), Bag of Roasted Coffee Beans (3)
  7. G: Copy of 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)' (4)
  8. H: Copy of The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress (3), Copy of Methuselah's Children (3), Card: The Hierophant (3), Card: The High Priestess (3)
  9. I: Copy of 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)' (5), Clock/Cloak of Invisibility (5)
  10. J: Copy of Job: A Comedy of Justice (2),Jar of Plum Jam (2) Spikey Ninja Throwing Star (1)
  11. K: Pot of Kraken Klaw Koleslaw (4)
  12. L: Skull Gull Skull (6)
  13. M: Copy of 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)' (8)
  14. N: Glowing Luncheon Truncheon (5), Glowing Sun/Moon Stone Bling (4), Copy of Stranger in a Strange Land (4)
  15. O: Copy of 'Your Disco Needs You' (5), Copy of The Door into Summer (5), Copy of Job: A Comedy of Justice (5)
  16. P: Copy of The Puppet Masters (4)
  17. Q: Quad-speed CD-ROM Drive (1), Bottle of Tequila (1), Tequila Slammer (1), Quick Shield Spell (1), Quarrel (1)
  18. R: Stranger in a Strange Land (hardback) (4), Pair of Firefly Trainers (4) Tray of Curry (3) Big Red India-Rubber Ball (3)
  19. S: Miss A Bit Less Spell (5), Copy of The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress (5)
  20. T: The art of the Stone Fist (5), Piece of Buttered Toast (4), South East Tunnel Talisman (4) (only once though), Bottle of Tomato Juice (4), Copy of Battlefield Earth (3), Contract Palantir (3), Empty Bottle (3)
  21. U: Lump of Cactus Pulp (3), Skull Gull Skull (3), Basket of Crushed Plums (2), Crushed Bunch of Grapes (2)
  22. V: Survey Vessel, unnavigable (in a bottle) (3), Plan for a Survey Vessel (2), Universal Solvent (2), Copy of Have Space Suit - Will Travel (2)
  23. W: Copy of The Cat Who Walks Through Walls (3), Wad of Raw Wool (3)
  24. X: Copy of Express Yourself (1), Lump of Beeswax (1), Exotic Cocktail (1)
  25. Y: Copy of 'Your Disco Needs You' (3)
  26. Z: Sloe Gin Fizz (2), Pizza (Slice) (2), Wizards Retreat Spell (1), Nightingbreeze Spell (1), Slice of Gorgan-zola Cheese (1)

Please, tell me you wouldn't seriously consider dissolving your Daemonic Chainsaw Nunchucks for four Cs. -- Sertularian 03:40, 27 September 2007 (BST)

You're right, I wouldn't. But you never know how desperate one can get sometimes. Besides, I got another one. Flt 09:16, 27 September 2007 (BST)
I dissolved a 'Speedboat in a bottle (unpowered)' which might seem a bit wasteful, but I was getting sick of the thing eating power crystals. And, you know - 5 Es, which is the most commonly used letter. 10X 17:21, 27 September 2007 (BST)
I agree on the "wasteful" bit, considering you could have gotten more Es from a simple ice cream...  :) --Dragon 17:55, 27 September 2007 (BST)
Bunch of Dark Green Needles has 5 E's as well...--Vainglory 02:40, 18 October 2007 (BST)
That's an interesting point, if you disintegrate a Bunch of Dark Green Needles, will you get 5 E's or a s.p.r.i.g.o.f.r.o.s.e.m.a.r.y ?--Solune 07:55, 19 October 2007 (BST)
My question is: If I haven't done the herbalism quest, won't it count it as a bunch of dark green needles? --Vainglory 11:08, 19 October 2007 (BST)
For the sake of science, I'm ready to sacrifice one of my solvents. Tell me a time and place if you're interested--Solune 15:29, 19 October 2007 (BST)
As soon as Caustic gets some AP I'll pick up some go to the trading post at air city. --Vainglory 05:35, 20 October 2007 (BST)
Okay, my character, Caustic, is at 93E 96N (Swap Shop) with the Bunch of Dark Green Needles, and ready for the test. --Vainglory 12:09, 20 October 2007 (BST)
How did the test come out? --Mowg Mowg 05:03, 23 January 2008 (GMT)
It didn't come out: you can't trade Universal solvent and Caustic wasn't strong enough to get one by himself--Solune 13:06, 23 January 2008 (GMT)
If anyone is still curious I can confirm that if you have not been trained by Herman then the letters you get are B-U-N-C-H-O-F-D-A-R-K-G-R-E-E-N-N-E-E-D-L-E-S ford_prefect 13:35, 26 November 2008 (GMT)
And if you have been trained, you get S-P-R-I-G-O-F-R-O-S-E-M-A-R-Y Incen 16:47, 28 March 2009 (GMT)

Best Items to Dissolve Version 2

I thought this was an interesting programming puzzle so I scripted one to use my items database from Mallr. It churned out this. Next step, Magr which you enter a word and it uses your xml inventory to work out what best to dissolve to make the word. - Timekeeper 23:03, 26 August 2008 (BST)

Note that the above statement is no longer true because others have edited the list. --Plopfill 17:06, 5 September 2014 (BST)
Hate to spoil the fun but http://wiki.cities.totl.net/index.php/Development#Universal_Solver PE got there first --naath 22:57, 17 November 2008 (GMT)


A

1st - Copy of Stranger in a Strange Land(4)

2nd - Stranger in a Strange Land(4)

3rd - Align Area to Earth Spell(4)


B

1st - Big Blue India-Rubber Ball(5)

2nd - Big Red India-Rubber Ball(4)

3rd - Small Blue-black Berry(3)


C

1st - Daemonic Chainsaw Nunchucks (4)

2nd - Unit of Enchanted Charcoal(3), Cucumber Slice (3), Copy of Job: A Comedy of Justice (3)

3rd - Bottle of Creme de Cacao(3), Cocktail Stick(3), Champagne Cocktail(3), Exotic Cocktail(3)


D

1st - Crispy Shredded Duck Bit(4)

2nd - Shredded Duck Bit(4)

3rd - Copy of 'Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend'(3)


E

1st - Seaweed Surprise Ice Cream(6)

2nd - Bottle of Creme de Menthe(6)

3rd - Degree of Enlightenment(6)


F

1st - Bag of Roasted Coffee Beans(3)

2nd - Copy of Farnham's Freehold(3)

3rd - Handful of Papery Flowers(3)


G

1st - Copy of 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)'(4)

2nd - Glowing Sun Stone Bling(3)

3rd - Pair of Beer Goggles(3)


H

1st - Copy of The Cat Who Walks Through Walls(4)

2nd - Copy of The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress(3), Copy of 'All the Things she Said'(3)

3rd - Card: The High Priestess (3)


I

1st - Copy of 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)'(5)

2nd - Super Invisibility Spell(5)

3rd - Clock of Invisibility(5)


J

1st - Copy of Job: A Comedy of Justice(2)

2nd - Jar of Grape Jam(2)

3rd - Jar of Plum Jam(2)


K

1st - Pot of Kraken Klaw Koleslaw(4)

2nd - Pair of Kraken Trainers(2)

3rd - Impending Kick Spell(2)


L

1st - Skull Gull Skull(6)

2nd - Bunch of Small Yellow Leaves(5)

3rd - Align All to Water Spell(5)


M

1st - Copy of 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)'(8)

2nd - Copy of 'Mamma Mia'(4)

3rd - Magic Mining Permit(3)


N

1st - Wand of Convincing Illusion(5)

2nd - Copy of Stranger in a Strange Land(4)

3rd - Glowing Moon Stone Bling(4)


O

1st - Copy of Job: A Comedy of Justice(5)

2nd - Copy of 'Your Disco Needs You'(5)

3rd - Copy of Beyond This Horizon (5)


P

1st - Copy of The Puppet Masters(4)

2nd - Bottle of Pineapple Juice(3), Bottle of Pepper Sauce(3)

3rd - Copy of Starship Troopers(3), Chilli Pepper(3)


Q

1st - Copy of 'Dancing Queen'(1)

2nd - Bottle of Herb Liqueur(1)

3rd - Pint of Fairy Liquid(1)


R

1st - Pair of Firefly Trainers(4)

2nd - Pair of Kraken Trainers(4)

3rd - Copy of 'Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend'(3)


S

1st - Copy of The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress(5)

2nd - Miss A Bit Less Spell(5)

3rd - Sisters of Mercy T-Shirt(4)


T

1st - The art of the Stone Fist(5)

2nd - North-West Tunnel Talisman(4)

3rd - South-West Tunnel Talisman(4)


U

1st - Lump of Cactus Pulp(3)

2nd - Skull Gull Skull(3)

3rd - Copy of 'You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)'(2)


V

1st - Bunch of Long Silvery Leaves(2)

2nd - Survey Vessel (in a bottle)(2)

3rd - Copy of 'I Will Survive'(2)


W

1st - Copy of The Cat Who Walks Through Walls(3)

2nd - Wad of Raw Wool(3)

3rd - Glowing Breakfast Club Sandwich(2)


X

1st - XXXX(4)

2nd - XX(2)

3rd - Copy of Citizen of the Galaxy(1)


Y

1st - Copy of 'Your Disco Needs You'(3)

2nd - Copy of 'You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)'(2)

3rd - Copy of To Sail Beyond the Sunset(2)


Z

1st - Silver Puzzle Box(2)

2nd - Sloe Gin Fizz(2)

3rd - Pizza Slice(2)

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