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::What? Use English please. [[User:Dendrast|Dendrast]] 03:49, 4 December 2008 (GMT)
::What? Use English please. [[User:Dendrast|Dendrast]] 03:49, 4 December 2008 (GMT)
:I see that the Archduke has been removed. Thank you. [[User:Dendrast|Dendrast]] 12:22, 4 December 2008 (GMT)
:I see that the Archduke has been removed. Thank you. [[User:Dendrast|Dendrast]] 12:22, 4 December 2008 (GMT)
:: The Archduke is a developer character. It was a bug that he showed up in leagues at all.
===More RNG Weirdness in the Taxing Cellar===
===More RNG Weirdness in the Taxing Cellar===

Revision as of 14:53, 25 March 2009

Put new bugs at the top of the page.

Please check the page before reporting your bug -- someone else may already have reported it (or something like it). Also check the Won't Fix list for things that are known about and (probably) won't get fixed.

Report Spelling Mistakes on their own page. Maybe someone will have an anal day and fix some of them.

Note that palantiring the admins is generally likely to get less of a response than posting here. We read the RecentChanges of the wiki frequently, and it's quite possible to miss seeing a "you have a palantir message" whilst playing. You should probably only use the palantirs if there's something that really needs to be kept secret.
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Urgent Bugs

For things which are time critical and serious, use a pigeon.

New Bugs

Post new bugs at the top, below this line.

Planter's Punch

Build displays improperly as "Mix Planter" instead of "Mix Planter's Punch 1 (3AP)"

Automatic Repeater Error Message Off By Unit

The automatic repeater feature, when failing finish the loop, notifies the user that the last x+1 repeats didn't happen.

Hamster Bug

(Is a hamster bug a flea?)

We've identified four hamsters that only have three traits (fashion or otherwise) rather than four. They are Waffles (ID 39863), Fluff (ID 37481), Jaki (ID 44332) and Kiki (ID 44333). In all cases, if we're interpreting the DNA correctly, each of them should have the fashion gene of Goth (BVR) as one of their dominant genes, but they don't. There are a few other hamsters (well, two plus "copies") that have the same gene and they manifest the Goth fashion with no problems (such as Tai, ID 42309). I can't see any pattern between the ones that work and the ones that don't!

Anyway, I am pretty sure this is a bug rather than us not having enough data to know what is going on, so I thought I'd report it and see how we go! :) -- Rhapsodie 04:01, 11 March 2009 (GMT)

Information points self repairing

I just completed the information point quest without repairing a single information point--Solune 20:32, 10 March 2009 (GMT)

Irregularly Self-Feeding Pets

My menagerie of animals doesn't seem to be feeding itself with complete efficiency. My goose, Gonnerill, has died twice despite abundant sheaves of wheat in my inventory, and one of my horsies recently showed as "dead" until I equipped her, whereupon she self-fed. harvestbird 05:23, 10 March 2009 (GMT)

Hat Hunting Spells

Not sure if this is new but hat hunting spells seem to have the following problems:

  • If you are in an unknown area and someone else is in another unknown area but within range, they are listed as X spaces to the Y, even though they are unreachable.
  • If a person is in guild space with a hat, it doesn't list the direction / distance even if you are right next to them.

Phw 23:25, 7 March 2009 (GMT)

Locating the Undead Dragon

I'm stood at 70E 67N, directly north of me is the Undead Dragon. My spider sense is cheerfully reporting "The undead dragon is to the West South West." (I guess it could be an illusion but I'm not about to hit it to find out.) -- Invisible 10:34, 18 February 2009 (GMT)

You could try popping a Fire Cracker. It's such a small effect that the real UD would laugh, but an illusion would run away. PotatoEngineer 11:08, 18 February 2009 (GMT)

My socks are stuck

So both Thog and Belkar seem to have run into a race condition with respect to Pandora's Socks. Seems that the last slime killed didn't register, so now even though both of their slimes are gone, "nothing happens" when each wears the socks, and their vision is still stuck at 90 degrees off. Help? -- Thog 03:08, 30 January 2009 (GMT)

This happened to me as well. Thog, Belkar, and I were attending Thog's Birthday Party when this bug struck, so that may have something to do with it. I should note, however, that I completed this quest successfully a number of times while at the party, but the last time I tried, I got no message after the ooze were defeated, and when I try to wear my socks, I get the same "nothing happens" message, even though I'm pretty sure I did a thorough job of ridding them of evil. --JAD 04:56, 3 February 2009 (GMT)
The same thing is happening to my other account, Armourer Guildorn, who is still also suffering from the gas bill bug. Apparently the Great Lords don't want him to finish any more quests. --Naimoigiant 14:19, 30 January 2009 (GMT)
Guildorn just got his socks to work! Now he just needs his gas bill sorted out. --Naimoigiant 23:51, 16 February 2009 (GMT)
Perhaps we should have something like a "Sock Office" we could visit to reset socks? It would save the GLs the bother of fixing it manually each time it gets stuck. --Isambard 01:49, 17 February 2009 (GMT)

Monster leagues dead

The Monster league page is dead (it gives 'king fiddling). But the script that hands out AP at noon is working. --naath 14:00, 15 January 2009 (GMT)

Some of the individual monster league pages are available (e.g., Arctic Undines); others give 'king fiddling time like the main page (e.g., Blizzards). This leads me to believe that someone may be wearing a disguise kit with invalid characters or malformed javascript in the name, breaking the kill league pages they appear on. -- Sertularian 18:55, 15 January 2009 (GMT)
what's the URL for the individual pages? --naath 11:36, 16 January 2009 (GMT)
For example, Arctic Undines are here. -- Sertularian 12:26, 16 January 2009 (GMT)
Have you tried spelling Blizzard the 'Kings way? i.e. 'Blizard'. --Liquid 22:28, 15 January 2009 (GMT)

Buckets of Anger

Buckets now make everything angry, not just things with milk. I'm not complaining mind you, just noting... Phw 22:03, 13 January 2009 (GMT)

Not sure why, but this was a 'feature' added quite some time ago. --TheRealKilgore 04:19, 14 January 2009 (GMT)
It was added for the Festival's cheese-related event. A select few Citiezens have Magic Milking Stools, which allow them to milk any monster with a bucket. (Which is rather disturbing.) They can use the exotic milk to create exotic cheese. But because they can milk anything, buckets now make everything hostile. The GLs may choose to change this, or not--but that's where it came from. --Dragon 07:10, 14 January 2009 (GMT)

HEY! What happened to my stall?

I left a perfectly good and reputable stall by the road to the 'Kingdom airport (Fearsome Edged Weapons) with 6 very nice battleaxes (hit for 50, + damage multiplier), I go off mining for more ore, come back after a week, nothing there. Bupkis. No weapons, no gold, no stall monkey. Not even a sausage. That's a lot of AP down the drain. Surely they don't cave in like mines. Dendrast 14:04, 20 December 2008 (GMT)

In theory, the only way it would disappear would be after two weeks of inactivity, at which time you would get a message and everything would appear back in your inventory. Unless you clicked on "Close Stall". I'm guessing neither of those is the explanation? -- Sertularian 14:09, 20 December 2008 (GMT)
OK, I've got my goods. Sorry, I guess I should've checked first. I didn't realise I'd been away that long. Thanks. Dendrast 14:27, 21 December 2008 (GMT)
I thought it was just one week of inactivity... --Dragon 20:25, 21 December 2008 (GMT)

Double-breakage with Angry Bows

Not exactly double-breakage, but it looks like the old bug has reared its ugly head, and on a single attack, I got both a break and an upgrade.

You attack the Pig.
You cause 8 points of damage, and receive 24 experience.
Your A bit put-out Bow (8 10x97%) has worn out.
You lose an A bit put-out Bow.
Your weapon gets more ticked off...
You lose an A bit put-out Bow.
You gain an Annoyed Bow.
You lose a Quarrel.

Mine wore out; Repeat Counter didn't stop

Mine wearing out doesn't abort the internal button masher. 202AP, 1AP mining button (named mine and 10x Misril Bling) and a count of 200:

You mine... You gain a Bronze Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Bronze Ore. You mine... You gain a Gold Ore. You mine... You gain a Scone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Scone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Gold Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Gold Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Gold Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Gold Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Bronze Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Bronze Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Gold Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... The mine collapses. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Bronze Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Scone. You mine... You gain a Gold Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Scone. You mine... You gain a Gold Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain a Gold Ore. You mine... You gain a Gold Ore. You mine... You gain a Copper Ore. You mine... You gain an Iron Ore. You mine... You gain a Stone. You mine... You gain a Stone. Failed to complete last 97 reps. this really a bug? You can still mine on regular terrain, so it sounds like you're asking for a new early-abort feature. --Dragon 00:13, 8 December 2008 (GMT)
It didn't do what the user expected, therefore it's a bug. Of course, in terms of programming required, it's certainly a new piece of code in a place that didn't have it, so it's a feature in the GLs' eyes..... PotatoEngineer 04:46, 8 December 2008 (GMT)
There's already a feature about Something broke, so it's a feature about a feature--Solune 17:08, 8 December 2008 (GMT)

Hacking league tables?

Who is Archduke Ferdinand? After a great deal of effort, I finally surpassed Vashka in 'Sales to Players at Markets'. I was #1. (I 'won' at Cities) This lasted a few days, suddenly Archduke Ferdinand is top of the table with a suspicious 1000 sales. Is this legit, or what? Dendrast 12:40, 3 December 2008 (GMT)

The GLs did it for teh lulz.--Prthivi 02:14, 4 December 2008 (GMT)
What? Use English please. Dendrast 03:49, 4 December 2008 (GMT)
I see that the Archduke has been removed. Thank you. Dendrast 12:22, 4 December 2008 (GMT)
The Archduke is a developer character. It was a bug that he showed up in leagues at all.

More RNG Weirdness in the Taxing Cellar

This time it's monster drops. I attacked a bat:

You attack the Bat.
You cause 16 points of damage, and receive 32 experience.
Spot attacks the Bat for 4 damage.
You slay the Bat.
You gain 34 Gold Pieces.
You gain a Glass Sword.

And again... and again... and again. The identical drops finally stopped on the fifth bat. -Scrumbucket 09:13, 25 November 2008 (GMT)

Spoke too soon. Got another identical drop about 50 AP later. -Scrumbucket 10:08, 25 November 2008 (GMT)

Leveling Leeches in the Taxing Cellar

Can't be done. They always become sated instead of levelin up. It's not a general RNG bug because dice rolls are random. Worked fine after I left. Gonzometro 22:15, 23 November 2008 (GMT)

Looks like the same RNG bug as in the Vents. I just rolled 9 1's in a row against a gygax. Gonzometro 22:40, 23 November 2008 (GMT)
As did I. And my sea horsie with a 50% hit chance never missed once out of approximately 25 tries while I was in there. -Scrumbucket 10:06, 25 November 2008 (GMT)

ERROR! drops

 You slay the Pterryanodon. You gain an ERROR(No type!).

Just happened this morning. --Corellis 10:32, 14 November 2008 (EST)

Me too, same error:
 You attack the Pterryanodon.
 You cause 16 points of damage, and receive 128 experience.
 You lose a Quarrel.
 Theodore attacks the Pterryanodon for 34 damage.
 You slay the Pterryanodon.
 You add the trophy to your case!
 You gain an ERROR(No type!).
 You gain a Fire Wand.
 You gain 17 Quarrels.
 You gain 158 Gold Pieces.
 You gain an Air Stone.

GrumpyNick 11:32, 16 November 2008 (GMT)

This bug is still present. Random4518 05:25, 2 March 2009 (GMT)

Taxing Cellar

If you attempt a move in the taxing cellar but fail to make it because an item of equipment has worn out you loose the path-item without crossing the path. This has cost ethifel a 7 Iron (and I only had one, sulk sulk) --naath 11:25, 10 November 2008 (GMT)

Dark Knight, stealing gold

"Dark Knight steals 608986582 gold pieces from you. You lose 608986582 gold pieces."

... except I was skint at the time. Is this perhaps a scheme implemented by the Great Lords to boost the ailing Cities economy in these difficult times? Andrewsi 10:07, 21 November 2008 (GMT)

I'm pretty sure that's not a bug but rather a GL playing a trick. For reference, everyone on the party square had this message--Solune 16:18, 21 November 2008 (GMT)

Tauntaun Sniffleheim

Killed, a huge/mutant? Tauntaun, then tried to do something while on the square and got the error message. So now all I seem to be looking at the server error page. Can't move, cant do anything. Pri3st 09:48, 10 November 2008 (GMT)

You can usually escape the Mutant Tauntaun error situation by manually entering a movement URL a couple of times, e.g., to move North. (If your path is blocked, you may need to try another direction.) -- Sertularian 12:19, 10 November 2008 (GMT)
The same thing's just happened to me; I've tried moving in each direction, but I get the same King Fiddling time screen Andrewsi 19:03, 2 December 2008 (GMT)
Ah-ha. Moving south worked on about the fifteenth attempt :-) Andrewsi 19:34, 2 December 2008 (GMT)

Spells not working in Trail of Trials

As most us who've done the ToT know, the spell required on the 17th trial doesn't work. Yes, there are other solutions available, but since this is a spell casting trial, shouldn't the invisibility spell work?

Missing Sea Horsie

Due to a terrible trading accident, my Sea Horsie, Finn (unique ID 29771), has dissappeared halfway between Namadgi and Rhapsodie. If you could recover him and give him to me, I would be very grateful! (I also lost three baskets of plums, although if I can get the horsie back that's the main thing!) -- Rhapsodie 05:11, 4 November 2008 (GMT)

Thank you, thank you!! :D Rhapsodie 09:07, 13 November 2008 (GMT)

Strange Meadow at Phw's Island House.

The meadow at 84E 295S offers prime grazing land for horses, but sheep - at least Quantum Sheep won't touch it. Do they know something the horses don't? Did Phw plant some funky sort of grass because he had "an incident" with a sheep when he was young? Is is some sort of odd bug? In other words, Quantum Sheep are not given the "graze" option at the meadow on Phw's Island Home, horses however, are. --TheRealKilgore 03:06, 4 November 2008 (GMT)

I noticed the same thing - and when I told phw the other day he looked surprised, so it definitely wasn't intentional on his part! --Rhapsodie 03:14, 4 November 2008 (GMT)
My own Quantum Sheep prefers a certain, shall we say, "special" sort of grass. Comes in a pouch.  ;-) -- Sertularian 03:26, 4 November 2008 (GMT)
I'm going to chime in on this. I was foraging on clearings and hills on Phw's Island, and the items I got were of the civilised green range. I know hills are kinda vague as to which terrain group they belong to, but clearings on the foraging wiki shows up only in wilderness terrain. -- Corellis 23:26, 3 November 2008 (EST)

Eternally youthful rezzed pets

Pets that were revived during the mass rezzing have not aged - my goldfish has remain unaged at 2 weeks, as have a number of other pets.

Error on monster drop

Just killed a pteranydon and got the following drop:

ERROR(No type!)

Phw 02:47, 30 October 2008 (GMT)

King Fiddling Hyper-Death

I moved from an unlocked guild tunnel to a locked store room on my way to our temple, for an initiation. This store room was our stable. Apparently at the exact same moment a number of pwnies were birthed, within the stable. I am now experiencing king fiddling time. Another member moved across the same square and is now trapped as well.

Please help us, for great glory, GLs! --Ade 23:31, 29 October 2008 (GMT)

Vault Problem

Is this a bug? Specifically the part about not being able to create a new vault because:

You already have a vault.

when I try to create a new vault using a permit. I've explored the whole vault area and aside from finding Sertularian hiding with a hat I didn't find another vault belonging to me. I discarded the old key, and that didn't change the situation. I suppose I'm clinging to the hope that there's a vault out there somewhere with all of my 67 blings and that I can somehow find it and access it still. Please dash my hopes at your earliest convenience. --Tiltowait 21:53, 29 October 2008 (GMT)

Oops, I guess I'm Report 4 of this. --Tiltowait 21:58, 29 October 2008 (GMT)


A few days ago, I picked up a Familiar that ate XXXXs from a duck-billed witch. (I had 2 XXXXs at the time.) Today, when preparing to bag my booze, I found that my XXXXs were gone and I now had a single ERROR(XXXX active but not owned). I hadn't gotten any feeding messages from the Familiar yet, but when I switched to it, it immediately gorged itself on the XXXXs and a Bottle of Romulan Ale, all three of which had already been gone for several minutes! The ERROR disappeared at the same time (without a "You lose an ERROR"-type message). -Scrumbucket 21:19, 24 October 2008 (BST)

saluting guards

I (as tashina) saluted the guards for the first time as an M.Arm (that is, I had not previous saluted them) and got

The guards befriend you, now you are a knight and you even pick up a few tips off them.

I don't know whether being able to complete this quest as a non-knight is meant to be possible, this message seems wrong. I have been knighted (although I was never a "Sir"). --naath 10:52, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Monster (777)

I've attacked four of these now, and three turned into Dolphins as expected. The fourth however, turned into an Earth Dragon. Sitting in the middle of the ocean, no less. Is this sort of thing supposed to happen? -Scrumbucket 19:09, 22 October 2008 (BST)

yes. It's only probably a dolphin. --Dragon 01:57, 23 October 2008 (BST)
LMFAO Elseware 13:19, 23 October 2008 (BST)


I have a Syringe, a Lab Coat, a Horsie, a Pwny and a Dragon - I wish to apply the syringe to the Dragon but holding the syringe gives me no options on the 'at feet' animals or in-inventory animals either as an option for the syringe or on the animal (if at feet), wearing the Lab Coat does not change this. I have not tried going to the HoGo but had thought this was not required for blood drawing. Is there a bug or am I doing something wrong? --naath 15:51, 16 October 2008 (BST)

I can take blood from pets in my inventory. I believe you need to not just obtain the lab coat but also show it to the HoGo people. Then they'll tell you which end of the syringe is which.  :) --Dragon 17:03, 16 October 2008 (BST)
Ah yes, and indeed having visited the HoGo I can stab at-feet pets also (or at least it claims I can)

Lost Pwny

Arrow (Pwny) Unique item #39151 lost in transit between Rhapsodie and naath at the Chill Out Zone to the South of the party. naath would like it back if possible, also guys - watch out for those sneaky database screwups :(

GLs have returned the pwny to me, thanks lots! --naath 14:31, 15 October 2008 (BST)
LOL, it turns out I have 2 of Arrow; like a Quantum sheep I think :-) --naath 14:32, 15 October 2008 (BST)

Gas Bill

Gas Bill unreadable

I am unable to read the gas bill to figure out where the next armorer will be. I have had the hardest time with this quest with the random bugs. Being a unreadable wax tablet because it was melted to a bridge from the islands to oz just happening to cover the smith i needed to talk to. I really have not had good luck with this quest. Anyway, enough ranting....I would love this problem fixed. -Shatattack

Sounds like the GLs are hinting that you should be a wizard :)
My gas bill won't diplay either. I get a 404 error on --Solune 11:45, 18 October 2008 (BST)

Can't See Gas Bill

My armourer, Namadgi, was given a gas bill (just after the game came back from the crash, if it's relevant) but when I select it I get the text and no image - just a little square to indicate that an image hasn't loaded. I've tried getting it to load via shift+refresh, right clicking and telling it to display the image, etc, but it's still a little square. Help? Rhapsodie 02:47, 14 September 2008 (BST)

gas bill 404

The gas bill for El_forjador is broken [1] returns a "404 not found"

same gas bill 404 error

The gas bill for Finrod is broken [2] returns a "404 not found"

Don't bother, I solved the problem by walking and searching --Finrod 10:23, 28 December 2008 (GMT)

Yet Another Gas Bill

My other account, Armourer Guildorn, can't see the image on Weyland's gas bill, and unlike the above player, walking and searching (or, in this case, standing in one spot and making stuff) doesn't seem to be making any difference. --Naimoigiant 14:25, 5 January 2009 (GMT)

"Other Scores" page broken

Trying to view the "other scores" page consistently generates a server error. I just want to know where I stand on the hat points table! --Naimoigiant 15:51, 5 October 2008 (BST)

Monster league page broken too and unless I'm confused (or unlucky/being targeted by people) the monster league APness is broken too --naath 17:16, 5 October 2008 (BST)
I'm still getting my 10 monster-league APs. PotatoEngineer 20:14, 5 October 2008 (BST)
yeah, I am actually getting mine... just didn't spot it in the huge history backlog --naath 10:44, 7 October 2008 (BST)
Sales to players at markets - I want to know if I'm top trader yet, or has the credit crisis struck here too. Dendrast 03:22, 7 October 2008 (BST)
Still broke - I'm going to Holiday Island for a few days. Dendrast 03:28, 10 October 2008 (BST)
Looks to be working again Ream 14:28, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Self-Reanimating Pet

I attempted to put down my War Horsie, Throwaway (ID#28597). She should have starved to death about 16 hours earlier & checking my inventory, she did appear as a 'Dead War Horsie'. However, when I took my wheat out of my bag, she promptly ate 10 sheaves and sprung back to life with no evilness. I guess I'll take it as a sign I should keep her, but whatever caused this could be problematic for elephant breeders. Gonzometro 06:02, 3 October 2008 (BST)

Circumnavigating and the Tube

The two don't mix, according to Stien. They probably should, according to Elseware.

<STiEN> I think the problem exists in the concept of the marking point of [110n] which gives the message to see the king.
<STiEN> the train bypassed that message and then when I got to the king, it started me over.
Sadly, a few minutes later:
<cjg>	hmmm
<cjg>	which tube?
<cjg>	ah
<cjg>	no that's just missing a check point.
<cjg>	not a bug

New interface AP counter

a.k.a 'next AP in '

It generates a java script error every second on both Opera and FF, and doesn't decrement --Solune 18:52, 29 September 2008 (BST)

Reportedly, this is because the countdown form is inside the game form, getting ignored.Incen 06:07, 30 September 2008 (BST)

Baby pet sorts wrong

Baby pets still sort as junk, even though we now have a 'pet' section. Phw 23:35, 28 September 2008 (BST)

Odd sales receipts

For a while now I've been getting sales recipts at prices that I know I haven't offered. For example, tonight I was told that I had just sold a D8 for 0 gold. I have never sold anything at that price, or for less than 11GP. Sorry, I haven't been documenting this but there have been all sorts of weird returns. After all, its only money. Dendrast 05:14, 28 September 2008 (BST)

This was an intentional change, although it may have needed better publicity (it was noted at the bottom of the Terrain:Market page with little fanfare). In an attempt to move more inventory, prices at the Markets are now automatically marked down by 1% three times per week. (Prices at private shops are not.) --Dragon 06:42, 28 September 2008 (BST)
OK, fine, I missed it, but I'm still feeling hosed. Tonight I was informed that I sold 2 forks for 0 GP, minus 2 commission; 5 lumps of beeswax for 0GP, minus 2 commision; and 5 dragon blood doses for 535GP minus 5 commssion. Why should I bother with the markets (which I prefer) especially when there's no return? Maybe this policy should have a 'bottom out' point. Dendrast 03:33, 30 September 2008 (BST)
Okay, you're getting hosed on the forks and beeswax, but dragon blood doses really have dropped in price. A bottom cap of, say, 2GP sounds reasonable, so you'll make at least a bare-minimum profit. If the prices on your stuff is dropping, then it means nobody is buying it. Dragon blood has been pretty low-value for the past year or so. Personally, I like this; it means I don't have to go back to my old market sales and mark things down manually. Prices simply drop (over time) until they're the going rate. I suppose this mostly screws over the people who buy things and re-sell them immediately at a higher price (if they find something that won't sell), but otherwise it helps better determine the "real" price of goods. PotatoEngineer 05:08, 30 September 2008 (BST)
I don't think you're actually charged commission for items that sell at 0gp, even though the message says you are. - Isambard 06:11, 30 September 2008 (BST)
Unless it has changed recently, you are - or, I was. Had to pay the market the commission out of pocket. Granted, this was a few weeks ago. Syagrius 13:48, 30 September 2008 (BST)
That should have been fixed, at least three months ago, if I recall correctly. Darksatanic 14:28, 30 September 2008 (BST)
Wow, 3 months ago... Time flies, and all that :) Syagrius 16:17, 30 September 2008 (BST)
My stall did quite nicely (Fearsome Edged Weapons), but I'm still trying to top the tables for stuff sold at markets. Does one actually get any credit for selling something for nothing? (Not like I can check - that page is still broken.) Dendrast 02:40, 8 October 2008 (BST)

Two Quantum Sheep at feet

Shouldn't having both instances of my new Quantum Sheep at my feet give each of them an attack? They're (It's?) listed as "Higgs (Quantum Sheep) x 2" in my equipment box and they (it?) only gets one attack when I attack a monster. Is this intended or a byproduct of them both technically being the same item?--LimeHan 17:21, 25 September 2008 (BST)

Your guess is as good as ours. Really. I mean it. We don't know. :) Darksatanic 09:51, 26 September 2008 (BST)


I'm seeing a number of different messages about a cabal (or lack there of) throughout the interface at the moment. Sometimes it's part of my avatar, sometimes it's on a square nearby or sometimes it's in a blank area of the map UI. Bug or event of sorts? Douro 00:45, 25 September 2008 (BST)

Why on earth would you call this a bug if it's so deliberate? PotatoEngineer 06:12, 25 September 2008 (BST)
Well I thought about that and I was first going to mention it in the Cabal page but...if it's appearing in random blank spaces (like in the arena where there is no accessible space) or changing the layout of pages when a message appears in a single blank space. It could, of course, easily be an event but it strikes me more as a bug given it's so random appearance. Please please correct me if I am wrong!! Douro 13:11, 25 September 2008 (BST)
As the momentous date has passed, I should mention that this was an easter egg in a Greasemonkey script. PotatoEngineer 22:39, 26 September 2008 (BST)

Katamari asks for Grog

The Spirit of Aggregation asks for a Bottle of Grog, which AFAIK is not generally obtainable (it was a one-time GL gift). --Dragon 08:09, 21 September 2008 (BST)

Mana in Pet Cemetary

As it says. There are 8 units of Mana in the Pet Cemetary. They show in the Contents section on the page, but not in the drop-down menu, so they can't be taken. -Scrumbucket 22:55, 19 September 2008 (BST)

Cannot enroll in the Magic Egg Hunt

I am at the Royal Northern Research Centre and cannot enroll in the Magic Egg Hunt. The button is available but, when pressed, the page continues to wait for data from Cities. Anoki 00:16, 18 September 2008 (BST)

Actually it looks like it all got rolled back. I am enrolled but have no map. Makes the quest kinda hard :-) Anoki 01:11, 18 September 2008 (BST)

  • This seems to still be happening. Hit the enrol button but no response from the cities server. Has he lost all the maps? --Zacharias 15:10, 8 November 2008 (GMT)
    • On further investigation, my map has appeared in my inventory, but you don't get any hint you've enrolled on the page as the response doesn't load. Once I chose the map the research centre box swapped to a 'return eggs' button. --Zacharias 15:05, 8 November 2008 (GMT)

Treasury Card fiddling

If you select a treasury card for a non-existant (collapsed) treasury, it gives 'king fiddling page. and since you now have that item selected, every time you load up cities, it gives 'king fiddling. GL Andrew helped me get rid of mine, but this might should be fixed anyway. --BortJr 11:55, 17 September 2008 (BST)

Smaug can't fly

When I got Smaug it had a "fly(20AP)" button, now it does not. I didn't check but I suspect this might have happened when the "grown up" powers were taken away from the baby dragons, however Smaug is grown up. --naath 10:59, 17 September 2008 (BST)

Bowling Permits broken

Bowling permits don't work: when trying to set up a bowling alley with 10 pins and the permit, I get this message:

 You need to set up on an empty lot.
So, are you on an empty lot? :)
I think Cthu1hu tried this on an empty lot and got the same problem.
Happens to me - drat. Yes I AM on a empty lot, I've even cleared all monsters on the 4 sides of the lot and still I get the message. Will I never kill a Harpy? The Lemur 5th and 13th Jan 2009

Smelly Martin

This is incredibly frustrating. I've already posted this bug twice before, but any of the fixes don't work for me. Kobelka, Palace, the major city taverns, limbo, the festival, the 2 in bentnob, the 2 in brighthelm. I CANNOT FIND MARTIN'S MOTHER IN ANY OF THESE TAVERNS. Can someone please, please help? I've blown nearly a thousand AP on this stupid quest.

The effected character is Tha'l Ghul.
Should be fixed properly now. Darksatanic 00:57, 27 September 2008 (BST)

Cannot move from Guild Factory terrain

If you step on to a Guild Factory terrain, and it hasn't been programmed yet, there is no way to move off it -- the movement arrows are not drawn. They can be mimicked manually by appending ?act_move_n=1 (assuming you want to go north) to the URL bar. Or, I suppose, one could break a talisman/rock.

Romulan Ale incorrectl named

In the inventory its bottle but when you trade it is says glass Phw 22:54, 11 September 2008 (BST)

Displays give GPS

Setting up a Magic Display on the Astral Plain gives me my co-ordinates via my innate GPS ability. --naath 11:16, 11 September 2008 (BST)

Familiar Eating Bottles

My Familiar feeds on Bottle of Wine / Rum / ect and Tom Collins, but the Bottle and glass is not returned.

I think they smash them after feeding.
Your Familiar drinks the Booze and smashes the container against the ground,
 then takes out a bucket of Ice and Hugs it while purring.
he he Payco Sept 6 2008

Shark Drops Broken

Every time I'm about to deliver the killing blow, the 'king pulls out his fiddle. On the plus side, I'm allowed to miss or BE hit normally. --Karlvasa 10:54, 4 September 2008 (BST)

Condor Stuck at the Control Room

My alt is in the Condor its been returned to base at the control room and now none of its controls are responding. You cant try the control room controls as its replaced the entrance tile. Timekeeper 14:51, 3 September 2008 (BST)

If anyone else is in it, they may have control. Try the big red button to eject everyone. Payco 3 sept 2008
Its working now Timekeeper 13:05, 4 September 2008 (BST)

Mana in the Dump Can't Be Picked Up

Sertularian 03:04, 3 September 2008 (BST)

Elephants Aren't Aging

Elephant.34239, Elephant.34240, Elephant.35459 and Elephant.35460 died and were resurrected during the Great Rampage. In a cruel twist of fate, all of them seem to have stopped aging since. 34239 and 34240 are stuck at 4 days old, while 35459 and 35460 are stuck at 1 day old. -- Sertularian 16:10, 1 September 2008 (BST)

It seems this is not limited to elephants. My pwny #30206 is stuck at 7 weeks old for the last few weeks. You have no idea how agonizing that is. ScurvyPirate 23:43, 3 September 2008 (BST)

Information Points

The Information Points quest doesn't get tied up quite right. Every time I use a Talisman, I get a bad feeling about the Information Points I repaired earlier, even though the system's been rebooted and is working fine. (At least, I assume it still is. It was when I left it. Those damned kids...) -- Sertularian 15:27, 1 September 2008 (BST)

I couldn't find a line indicating successful completion of this quest on the "Me" page either. -Greycat 17:12, 2 September 2008 (BST)


When enjoying myself at Kressida's Companion House, I got:

You gain an ERROR(Beer, file GAME/Item/ doesn't exist).

among some other drinks. Gonzometro 23:07, 28 August 2008 (BST)

I have this listed in my item list when I work with any bag or trading post. Ben10 Sept 6, 2008

Heater Broken In Tresoddit

All the city squares in Tresoddit are warm with the exception of the Town Centre and High Street --TheRealKilgore 15:58, 28 August 2008 (BST)

Can't buy water stones

It appears to be no longer possible to buy Water Stones in Water City. They used to be in Jack's Spells, but that got torn down for a Tube Station, and Quantum Magic still doesn't carry them. - Thog 14:24, 28 August 2008 (BST)

same happened to me about a month ago Agzu 20:56, 28 August 2008 (BST)

Autofeeding, Take II

When refreshing the page yesterday (26 August) I had a few items devoured by my pets. Specifically, I lost 2 measures of serenity, 7 bones, 25 pounds of poop, and 7 shaky flakes. Please note that this is a separate event from Dead Pets Autofeeding, reported below. It happened exactly the same way, but this time none of my pets were dead when it happened. Is there any way to get these items back (specifically my serenity)? --JAD 23:49, 27 August 2008 (BST)

That's how autofeeding works now. Pets will eat until full. Kaos Dragon 23:53, 27 August 2008 (BST)
Seems relatively useful, although it would have been nice to figure this out before I lost the serenity. At what percentage level will my pets start stealing my stuff so I can avoid this in the future? --JAD 01:54, 28 August 2008 (BST)
I think elseware set it to 25%. It used to be 50%. Syagrius 02:02, 28 August 2008 (BST)

Rename Issue

So I checked my pet horsie ButterCup, who I had finally decided to rename and it wont let me rename it. I checked to see if this was because she is pregnant, but all my other pregnant horsies are renameable. It seems to be localized only on ButterCup #22415.

If this has happened for a known reason I wouldn't mind being told it. I guess I could live with a horsie being named ButterCup forever.

-Stien 18:27, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Did ButterCup die at some point? I've noticed that seems to lock in the pet name -- Thog 18:35, 27 August 2008 (BST)
Unfortunately yes she did die at one point, but she was revived. However the other pets who have died and been revived can also have thier name changed. -Stien 18:52, 27 August 2008 (BST)
Was ButterCup revived by Miracle Pill, and were the other pets revived by the recent "all pets revived at 150%" event? Random4518 20:21, 27 August 2008 (BST)
ButterCup was revived off the miracle pill, and the others should have been the same. I believe. -Stien 20:23, 27 August 2008 (BST)
You're not sure? Could you check to see whether any of the others are evil? I'm pretty sure it's evil pets (and registered goldfish) that can't be renamed. Maybe the bug has something to do with whatever stops goldfish from registering? Random4518 22:40, 27 August 2008 (BST)

The Amazing Disappearing Wheat

So I planted,mucked, and sang over a field, then popped a Time Warp. So far so good - I ended up with 24 sheaves of wheat, which I then took. I then popped a second time warp and picked up the remaining 11 sheaves. One problem - I now have 11 sheaves of wheat. The first 24 are GONE. Any thoughts? -- Thog 18:11, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Hole in your pocket?  :) Syagrius 23:28, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Custom Weapons Sort Wrong

Custom weapons now seem to be sorting under "Junk".... --Dragon 16:36, 27 August 2008 (BST)

seems to be fixed now --Dragon 06:39, 28 August 2008 (BST)

Holiday Island broken?

Holiday Island does not seem to be adding AP above max. -Jon 12:51, 26 August 2008 (BST)

According to GL Yendor on IRC, this is now fixed. I haven't verified it firsthand though. --Dragon 16:37, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Smelly Pete

Not sure why, but I still can't find his mother. I've check the Festival (downlow), the King's pub, The Hobbit in windy city, both the pubs in Fire City, The Gobblet in water city, The crown and the happy camper club in earth city, the limbo bar, the Kobelka between fire and water city, the spy glass inn and the bentnob brewery, the engine room and the unknown star in Brighthelm. I've done this circuit 5 times now, and still haven't found her. Someone help?

Pet Lost To Ninja

I'm not exactly sure if this can be considered a bug or not, but... I've done some stupid things in my time, but in a moment of not thinking, I attacked a Ninja while I had a pet in my hand, and...

You attack the Ninja.
You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
The Ninja disarms you.
You lose a Leeroy Jenkins (Giant Dung Beetle).
The disarm causes 10 points of damage.
The Ninja causes 10 points of damage.
Now using Fists.

So, um... is there any possible way that this can be undone? Or am I just seriously screwed out of a pet that was about a year old? --Prthivi 06:56, 22 August 2008 (BST)

Pet Food Replacement seems a tad inexact

Quoting from the history I saw when I logged in: "OK, I'm going to try and return the food eaten by the zombie pet incident this morning..." (c.f. Pets feeding themselves, Vanishing Foodstuff question and Dead Pets Autofeeding). I applaud the intent, but it seems to have gone wrong, as the items returned are completely different from the ones I lost. I mean, I'm not objecting to suddenly having over 6000 Kudos, but I doubt that was the intent. Ravensdance 19:14, 21 August 2008 (BST)

AP Cost to build a Guild Tube Kit is too high

This looks a bit like a copy-paste error: Guild Tube kits cost a quite moderate amount of equipment (only 500GP, 20 wood, 10 stones; the beeswax is the only hard part to get in bulk), and only 10AP to deploy, but each tube kit costs 200AP to manufacture, much like the other high-level Guild kits (such as the treasury, store, trading post, etc.). I'm guessing this was intended to be in the neighborhood of 20AP, much like the Guild Prop Kit. PotatoEngineer 11:12, 21 August 2008 (BST)

Dead Pets Autofeeding

My Acceptance of Mother just up and ate a Spare, a Strike, 26 Issues, 153 Kudos, and 9 Measures of Serenity. Funny thing is, it's been dead for months if not years. Is there any way I could get some of that back? Nine Measures of Serenity really hurts! The Pet ID for that Acceptance is #14211 if that's any help. -Scrumbucket 09:36, 21 August 2008 (BST)

And now I've just gained three new Mayfly Eggs. (I have three dead Mayflies in my inventory.) I'm betting these are different symptoms of the same dead pet bug. -Scrumbucket 09:43, 21 August 2008 (BST)
ouch, that's bad. At least I didn't have any MoS left... my Acceptance of Mother upped and scoffed down manylots issues and all my kudos. I hope it gets to stay alive after costing me all of that! --naath 10:59, 21 August 2008 (BST)
When checking my palantir this morning, I immediately lost 44 Oils, 50 Magic Emeralds, 126 Magic Opals, 130 Magic Rubies, 2 Measures of Serenity, 1146 Kudos, 17 Spares, 9 Strikes, 16 Issues, 16 Bones, 510 Pounds of Poop, 44 Shaky Flakes. I copied this into a word document for documentation purposes. I was carrying around a dead obsession, electric sheep, goldfish, giant dung beetle, ferret, and troll. The only pet that was resurrected was my Electric Sheep. I would greatly appreciate it if there were a way to get my stuff back. --JAD 14:33, 21 August 2008 (BST)

Parties and Pentacles hide hats

Not that I'm complaining or anything, but now that parties and pentacles hide the people present, hats aren't as easily stealable. I suppose you could compare the players who have hats list to the dropdown in the pentacle trade window and then use the hat steal url manually.

Either way, I've had this hat for a few days, uncontested, on the pentacle.--LimeHan 05:46, 21 August 2008 (BST)

Time to AP countdown at party

The AP countdown in the bottom right doesn't countdown from the halved value if you are at the party. I'm fairly sure used to work.

The reason this is annoying for me is that the time to MaxAP Greasemonkey script now doesn't report anything like the right time while you're at a party. RockHawk 23:44, 20 August 2008 (BST)

I don't recall this ever working....also, PE's GM script does claim to understand parties, so you might want to take it up with him. --Dragon 04:34, 21 August 2008 (BST)

Pentacle lost to race conditions

Yesterday afternoon Shaman Rusalka attempted to hand me (My Wizard Ade character) a pentacle, at the pentacle. Unfortunately it never completed the journey and now resides in the nether regions of the game. Help, please. --Ade 14:14, 20 August 2008 (BST)

Vanishing Totems

The Slyph, Eagle and Firefox totems aren't at their respective locations of 47E 300S, 48E 300S and 49E 300S. Were they moved? -- Thal_ghul 19:34, 19 August 2008 (EST) - ruthven moved the boundaries of some areas. hmmm. Sounds like this might have occured at the same time the kingdom got 1 bit wider... Elseware 09:03, 20 August 2008 (BST)

Baby Minrilax won't eat

I just got gifted three Baby Minrilaxes, and they aren't getting food points from sand or their ore - and are only getting one FP from stone (the pets page says they usually get six?). Rhapsodie 23:11, 19 August 2008 (BST)

FP does not equal hunger %.
Mine is eating fine remember 20FP~2% ford_prefect 23:38, 19 August 2008 (BST)
Actually it's 2.97%. It's not that easy to convert FP to % on pets with big appetites. Try Kaos Dragon 23:44, 19 August 2008 (BST)

Display Bug w/Guild Maintenance

Maintaining guild squares no longer shows an AP cost. The button says "Maintain (" with an open parenthesis. This started recently, in the past day or two. --Dragon 05:14, 19 August 2008 (BST)

Smelly Martin Quest

Elseware mentioned this was broken. Is it fixed? I've been doing the rounds quite a few times to no avail. Martin's mother just isn't in any of the taverns. Places checked: Limbo, Kolebka, Festival, Bentnob (both), Brighthelm (both), all 4 cities and the palace. Thal_ghul 15:34, 18 August 2008 (EST)

Not gaining HP when healing spells are in effect

I cast a Vitality and a Wellbeing, and am not gaining HP when using AP - neither for practising an instrument, feeding or movement. This started within the last 24 hours, it was working OK yesterday. Gimlet 13:34, 18 August 2008 (BST)

Nerf, i'm afraid. Healing spells will now not take you over double your maxap. It's still plenty, but otherwise there's not much incentive to do the maxap quests. Elseware 16:43, 18 August 2008 (BST)
Won't take you over double maxAP, or double maxHP? PotatoEngineer 17:24, 18 August 2008 (BST)
double maxHP. My alternative character is now at 1014/507 HP Agzu 21:02, 28 August 2008 (BST)

Strange Error

While bagging a T-Shirt (blank) on the parking fields at the old Festival grounds, this occurred:

The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
That's a very bad idea.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
These bags aren't meant for animals.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag doesn't have a drawstring. You decide not to risk your money.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
The bag looks a bit grubby. You decide not to risk your herbs.
You lose a T-Shirt.

Oddly, it doesn't seem as though anything got bagged except the t-shirt. Addendum: It happened again, on the same spot, when switching from the Bag to a Box of Matches. S. Mackie 04:03, 15 August 2008 (BST)

Citiesberg no longer reports prices from the mall

Not sure if this is the correct place to report this, but Citiesberg doesn't have any price information from the mall anymore. I'm guessing it stopped 2-5 days ago or so. The mall.xml file works OK, but you can't find items and prices on Citiesberg.

Whales are extinct

All whales are dead, and I haven't seen any new ones spawning for a week or so.

Disappearing Engine

I boarded a train at the forest station that seemed to lack an engine. It ran fine, but it had no engine until it pulled into Farm and Castle where the engine Duke appeared suddenly. Kaos Dragon 06:02, 13 August 2008 (BST)

Royal Race

I've just completed the Royal Race but the Twitter says I've just started it again. (No completion message). I took a taxi to the fire city, went to the airport used a ticket to OZ travelled south stopped over night in Northwich, visited Tresoddit. Continued south to the festival and took another Taxi back to the royal Palace walk back and forth over the throne square. Triggering two more start messages. Didbert 00:17, 13 August 2008 (BST)

I do believe you are supposed to travel around the globe via the direction keys. No taxis, no talismans, no airplanes. Did you get the "You abandon this circumnavigation" message? --TheRealKilgore 17:43, 13 August 2008 (BST)
elseware said the above methods were allowed. It may be due to not actually crossing the "checkpoint" lines--i.e. going south, you never hit the first milestone at the 48S beach. This is arguably a bug (at least as far as the Race is concerned), since it wasn't really indicated that was required. --Dragon 17:56, 13 August 2008 (BST)

Ticket Offices don't work right now

So I purchased a ticket for the HAS teleporter, and even when holding it, the pathway to the teleporter is unreachable. I don't think this is specific to the HAS, seeing as mawenpea was running into the same problems with the ticket office in the Order of the Wyrm. -- Thog 23:56, 12 August 2008 (BST)

RNG is Not Random

Walking around the Oz forest, all of the Vorder Men I see are 1612800 Vorder Men. They are also consistently spawning to the south of the square east of me, as I move east. (It's pretty neat, if you want to GL-teleport to 53E 264S and then just start heading east...) Assuming these are newly-spawned, they would seem to indicate a severe problem with the RNG.... --Dragon 06:42, 12 August 2008 (BST)

I just had a very similar experience with Lief and Olaf on the Plain of Idavoll. -- Sertularian 03:20, 13 August 2008 (BST)


Today at the start of the festival I stole a present from Santa, I assume this is part of the festival activities? Anyway it said

Present: One of Ruthven's experiments went horribly wrong... and some of it's in this package. It looks horrible... but smells delicious.

So, er, I ate it. I didn't notice anything happen, but maybe I'm unobservant. Anyway obviously doing this left me holding my *other* present, from Christmas, which I was saving up, which now *also* says

Present: One of Ruthven's experiments went horribly wrong... and some of it's in this package. It looks horrible... but smells delicious.

This is, to put it mildly, annoying.--naath 11:36, 9 August 2008 (BST)

To elaborate, current presents give a bonus of 250AP, instead of the goodies that you were previously used to. My advice is not to use the present unless you absolutely need to, as of now ALL presents work this way.

Odd Leaderboard Entries

I originally noticed on the Kipple leaderboard, but this seems to appear on all the boards. Air-aligned player "Post Music Video Entries Here" appears to have "Write Link on Memo and Give to Me" kipple, AP spent, KoT donations, etc. -Scrumbucket 11:08, 9 August 2008 (BST)

Preexisting Presents

Those of us who had preexisting presents no longer have the option to use them (we can get ~250AP from the new ones, instead of a choice of different things--including 1000AP--from the old ones). Should we wait until next Christmas?  :) --Dragon 02:34, 9 August 2008 (BST)

Reforestation Issue?

Found a patch of Forest north of some Theives Forest. 6W 96N, I believe. I have no doubt this was supposed to be Theives Forest, and you can see the work of loggers around here, so I'm inclined to believe that was a reforestation issue. S. Mackie 19:05, 6 August 2008 (BST)

Parrots On Hunger Strike

Not sure if a bug or a deletion of a previous feature, but parrots will no longer grab your fish and fly off leaving all sorts of goodies behind in the process. You just get you cause 0 damage messages --TheRealKilgore 05:12, 31 July 2008 (BST)

I am finding this too which is sad when you are glyph hunting... ford_prefect 10:41, 31 July 2008 (BST)


I can't board a boat on or in the GC, which makes ocean travel helplessly scenic. Gonzometro 04:15, 30 July 2008 (BST)

You can board a boat in ocean squares though, just leave the condor then get into your boat.--LimeHan 04:26, 30 July 2008 (BST)
The GC has recently been changed; it no longer overrides the 'roads' with GC terrain, so you can't exit over ocean. You can use the Big Red Button, but that just leaves you in the same situation. Gonzometro 05:18, 30 July 2008 (BST)
Ah, I gotcha. Plainly the Great Lords need to add an entire Z-level to the game to accommodate flying vehicles and the ability to go up and down in addition to the cardinal directions.
There is a shadow here! You look up and see the Golden Condor hovering far above.
A ladder dangles all the way down from the vehicle to the ground.
UP: 1 AP

--LimeHan 05:30, 30 July 2008 (BST)

Not Very Random Vents

I don't know whether it is a bug of just strange luck, but sometimes I have attacked a bat with a cruel blade or a wand of anger (92% to hit) and missed, not very unusual but being in the vents with max AP kept trying, I attacked a total of 100+ times and never hit the bat, This has happened a couple of times but then I thought it is just extra special terrible luck. Today I happened upon a Gygax, again having little better to do with my AP I set aout killing it, selected my D20s and... everytime the samething happens, I roll a 14 the gygax rolls a 3 claims my die is loaded and smashes it, atleast 7 times (8 for getting a 14). Is it supposed to do this in the vents or is the RNG just of the opinion whatever it first thought it is going to think for the rest of the day...ford_prefect 00:33, 29 July 2008 (BST)

I've had a similar experience in the vents. Good to know I wasn't just incredibly unlucky. Random4518 03:27, 29 July 2008 (BST)
I've have not experience any sort of reduced hit chance while in the vents TheRealKilgore
I wouldn't say it was a reduced top hit, I mean 14 is much better than I normally roll on a D20, more just reduced random number generating...ford_prefect 01:42, 30 July 2008 (BST)
This is happening to me too... every D20 roll against the Gygax I'm fighting is a 4... each D12 roll is a 3, D10-D6 are each doing 2 and my D4 is doing 1 damage. My pets hit/miss exactly the same each turn too. (It'll roll random numbers... just won't attack with them!) Stoo 00:17, 4 August 2008 (BST)
+1 - same thing here. Against a Gygax, always rolling the same number and he always smashes the die. Syagrius 03:28, 4 August 2008 (BST)

I also had an RNG-related problem in the vents. Just tried moving through a newly opened pathway, only to be told one of my safety pins had worn out. Tried again and lost another safety pin. And then another. I took off my remaining 5 safety pins and tried clicking on the open path again. One busted tank. With tears rolling down my cheeks at the loss of my spare tank, I unequipped everything but a t-shirt and my disguise kit and was able to walk through without damage to either. Still.... seems a bit fishy to me.

(Supposititious claim of tear-rolling added for dramatic effect.) Nuru nuru 15:40, 30 July 2008 (JST)

OZ Jungle broken

I'm trying to cut the OZ Jungle, and it is cut but the path/Road between is still Jungle - continued cut only uses AP'sSinner 1:00, 21 July 2008

I'm experiencing the same thing: "cutting jungle" cuts the jungle in the adjacent square, as it should, but not in the road between the squares - so movement is impossible. -- Sertularian 03:18, 22 July 2008 (BST)

- probably now fixed with guilds? Elseware 09:49, 7 August 2008 (BST)

Rubber Duckies turn water into land

I just made some duckies, and saw the deploy button - so I had to try. I now have 10 duckies @ 55e/211s in a lake. I noticed the Plant Bean and Forage buttons change to low AP's so I tried them. I recieved a Cuke, and a Sprig of Mint IN THE LAKE. The duckies are cute :) Sinner 12:00, 19 July 2008

Not Sharpened Flint, just Gone

You attack Omar the Troll.
You cause 4 points of damage, and receive 16 experience.
Your Flint (4 90%) has worn out.
You lose a Flint.
You gain a Sharp Flint.
Omar the Troll misses you.

I had 10 flint, and got that message...I have no sharpened Flint in my inventory. Nor can I make an axe with the recipe book.

Seems to be random. I've had two characters sharpen a flint ok off a troll. And a third lose the sharp flint. The difference between them was that the one that lost the sharp flint killed her troll, and the other two didn't. Rhapsodie 08:44, 26 July 2008 (BST)

Not again: unknown action:

I was paying my bill at the palantir shop in Earth city. I clicked [pay bill] and got "Unknown action: pay bill"

now this isnt odd, I get that message from time to time. what was odd this time, is it teleported me 2 squares East, to the party.

D20 only rolls 7's

I'm trying to kill a Gygax in the Vents and my D20 has rolled only 7's GrumpyNick 09:22, 16 July 2008 (BST)

We've been rolling D20s (for something to do) and have gotten plenty of other numbers. I think the RNG may just hate you. -- Thog 15:00, 16 July 2008 (BST)
You must have incurred the wrath of the RNG <insert obligatory line about donations being accepted>. Or, you know, you are fighting Gary Gygax. In spiritual form no less! Cult of the RNG 15:26, 16 July 2008 (BST)
They work fine if you roll them using the "roll" button, but not if you use them to attack. (They'll always roll the same number in a given hour.) --Dragon 17:57, 16 July 2008 (BST)
This is known about. The number you get probably depends on where you're standing. It's on my list of things to fix in my copious free time. :) Darksatanic 19:33, 16 July 2008 (BST)

The Oz Life Insurance Crisis

I died in Oz a while ago, did the 2 days of work I promised to, but was denied a new policy. The good folks over at L. L. Shrine did offer free counseling, but no insurance. I ended up going through all the shrine offices on the newer world, but none of them would take me on. I realize I have a bit of a poor track record with the whole not dying thing, but really! I did eventually get a new insurance policy at Air City, so at least the old 'kingdom has a functional public health program. Possible cause: Mixology. I drank a Dry Martini and a Mule, in that order, and ended up Air from the Dry Martini. Perhaps some of me was Earth from the Mule?

White Elephant Bug

Even though I've done animal sanctuary, I can't see the hunger percentage on my white elephant. (Though it does occur to me that this may be a "feature" of the elelphant, I thought I'd record it just in case...) Rhapsodie 13:48, 14 July 2008 (BST)

Edit: I can see the percentage when I am riding the elephant, just not when I select it from my inventory... Rhapsodie 13:51, 14 July 2008 (BST)

North south wrapping errors

  • 70, 195 to 70, -600 does not wrap. It does wrap from -600 to 195 though. Phw 01:25, 13 July 2008 (BST)
  • Oil platform at 54, 195 - has the same issue as Tauntauns below but is right from south to north.
  • Terrain at 52, 195 does not wrap

Tautaun terrain

I just killed a tauntaun on -600S and got something really strange. I can't go south (to 195N) - the path doesn't exist. Further, the paths south on the squares next to me end in nothing. It seems to break the wrapping effect. Phw 01:19, 13 July 2008 (BST)

Addenda: If you go around to 195 N you can walk back to it - the path north exists. Also, the path south on the square next to the corpse works once you stand on it. Example is at 80,-600. Phw 01:21, 13 July 2008 (BST)

Vashka's Ice Cream Van

I just saw a white square on the road between Earth City and Windy City. Turns out it's Vashka's van, but all of the formatting on the square seems to have disappeared. All of the normal shopping options are still available, however. Rhapsodie 03:10, 12 July 2008 (BST)

Ditto on the ambulance and university. You could see what was written if you highlight the text though. Gonzometro 05:36, 13 July 2008 (BST)

Market value decrease

Apparently things under 50GP don't decrease in value. They probably should, in order to clear out the cheap crap. - Isambard 00:07, 12 July 2008 (BST)

Also a small suggestion: When they hit 0GP, they should move to the dump. - Isambard 04:35, 14 July 2008 (BST)

Nobody likes to trade with invisible players

This is actually kind of amusing. If there are only two players at a TP, and one is invisible, the invisible player only gets the option to trade if they have "See invisible" active. If it's not (and they don't show up on the screen) the TP doesn't recognize they exist. -- Thog 21:47, 9 July 2008 (BST)

Big Red Button

The new button at the golden condor control room returns "Unknown action: eject" when used.--Che-T۞ 20:08, 9 July 2008 (BST)

The Downlow

You can dodge the 'tash requirement if you sneak in the back entrance (from the West). Gonzometro 04:46, 7 July 2008 (BST)

There's a rumour somewhere on here that the 'tash requirement can be dodged if exiting directly from the condor too. Not sure if this has already been fixed? Theendisnigh 22:58, 8 July 2008 (BST)

Second Verse, same as the first

when getting a full heal at the Kill or Cure spot of Air City

Unknown action: fullheal
Unknown action: fullheal

again, it said unknown action and moved me in a random direction

Guild Exit Error

When exiting the HAS guild hall, I received this message twice:

Unknown action: exit
Unknown action: exit

the first two times moved me to the south the third time I was able to exit

You hadn't spent all your money - they wanted it all...  :)
Did you move south from the Trading Post prior to trying to exit? I had that sort of issue for a LONG time (I'd see one action, but two would be executed). In this case, you would have gone two spaces when you thought you were doing one. In my case, it was due to Firebug running on my PC. Why that would trigger double-submits, I have no idea -- Thog 23:50, 16 June 2008 (BST)
No, I was standing still, and not loading when I clicked exit Spacer one 01:54, 19 June 2008 (BST)

Non fatal armor

Damage reflected by reactive armor will bring a monster to 0HP and leave it alive.

Hydra as convincing as a soccer star

I mean really...

You attack the 2 headed Hydra.
The 2 headed Hydra is magically aligned with air
You chop off a head... but two more grow in its place!

Its like that head took a dive and rolled around clutching it's knee! I did nothing ref! Phw 21:59, 28 May 2008 (BST)

Broken Cricket Link

The 77E 218S DSSGCM square that shows the current match contains a link to Cricinfo. However, the linked URL is'' . --Dragon 07:45, 19 May 2008 (BST)

Elemental swords II

They used to be called Flaming, Onyx, Wind, Hydro but where renamed to <elemental> sword2 in the great elemental reform--Solune 20:06, 18 May 2008 (BST)

Anonymous Pirate

I ran across a pirate with no name today. The number of cannons displayed, but no name. (Except when I was wearing an Amulet of Endor, when it showed as "Ewok" but no cannons, but that's normal, right?) -Scrumbucket 08:30, 11 May 2008 (BST)

Enchanting Talismans in Space

Working on the Master Armourer quest, I found myself in space one rivet short of what Vulcan requested, and as I had choosed the wrong time to get on the elevator, I had spent about a week getting up to space so I was quite angry with the whole quest. Since I figured that the smithy terrain overrode the space terrain, I tried to enchant a talisman, and was able to do so, allowing me to go into the Neutral Zone, talisman to Earth City to buy a rivet, and finally talisman back to space without bother with the space elevator a second time. Not sure if you wanted this to be allowed, so I thought I'd give a heads up. --Sir Garry 04:20, 28 April 2008 (BST)

Head of the Gorgan vs. Runningsaur causes it to turn to stone and run away

You attack the Runningsaur.
You show the head to the Runningsaur. It is turned to stone.
Your Head of the Gorgan has worn out.
You lose a Head of the Gorgan.
The Runningsaur runs away.
The Runningsaur causes 15 damage.

I think it has to do with gorgan heads doing damage equal to monster health. I imagine this happens to cats, too. So I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature. +) PotatoEngineer 14:30, 24 March 2008 (GMT)

Pregnant Mare Bug

My Horsie is pregnant, but when I hold her, I still have a "Breed" drop-down option. (She's apparently up for her son. Ew.) -- Sertularian 00:36, 22 March 2008 (GMT)

Kudos no Move-os

So I and the fellow I share a quantum sheep with have a kudos trading deal worked out to get the herb to keep it fed. usually, i give them to him, but this last time, he gave them to me. This was a good several days ago. Since then, my kudos have stayed at 131. Not even joining the party changed it. --BortJr 21:55, 15 March 2008 (GMT)

As I recall, kudos gained from other players last about a week before becoming susceptible to 'kudos-rot'. The party thing is a different bug. Gonzometro 01:39, 22 March 2008 (GMT)

Knighting after Master Armourer doesn't change your career

You kneel before the 'king.
'Greetings Master Armourer tashina' says the 'king.
'Yeah, I guess you're worthy.'
The 'king makes you a knight. 'Arise Master Armourer tashina'. The 'king explains that all knights are known as 'sir' regardless of   gender. 
The 'king also awards you 1000 gold. neat!
The 'king gives you a cool sword.
You gain 1000 Gold Pieces.
You gain a Sword of Omens.

And I'm still "Master Armourer tashina", still have the MA b/g, still have my MA skills (I just made a custom weapon). However I was able to successfully initiate to fire, and can now do fire-crafting things (I checked) which was my intent in this exercise, so this bug has actually saved me the 2 days of AP to change back to being a MA (lucky me). --naath 10:16, 13 March 2008 (GMT)

Guild Pass taken before equipment is checked for breakage

You lose a Guild Pass (0).
Your Pair of Bunny Ears has worn out.
You take off a Pair of Bunny Ears.
You lose a Pair of Bunny Ears (3).
Now using Fists.

The breakage of the bunny ears reversed my movement, placing me back where I was. But since the guild pass was taken FIRST, I need to buy another guild pass to use this teleporter. PotatoEngineer 21:08, 10 March 2008 (GMT)

Probably related to #Wearing out in the Great Desert I would imagine. -Stelio 00:57, 13 March 2008 (GMT)

Monster *Csaur

Attacking with a pointed stick (pointer) yields the following:

You attack the CSaur.
The CSaur dumps core all over you. Icky.
You lose a Pointy Stick.
You cause 100 points of damage, and receive 1000 experience.
The CSaur causes 10 points of damage.

The first attack works correctly, but subsequent attacks do not remove HP even though they display the same message.

Similar problem concerning C++Saurs. Gonzometro 00:37, 6 March 2008 (GMT)

Primeval Leeches

I've noticed that I am picking up a single 16 damage leech every time I walk through Primeval Swamp, but when I specifically try to gather them I can only find 1 or 2 damage leeches. Seems a bit inconsistent? (Unless the bigger ones are all lurking in the trees, waiting to drop on me as I pass... that's a scary thought.) -Scrumbucket 21:06, 27 February 2008 (GMT)

Flying Cats

Cats still want to fight me when I'm flying on my Winged Horsie. Azuaron 14:16, 19 February 2008 (GMT)

As do all Duck-Billed monsters. Azuaron 11:07, 12 March 2008 (GMT)

Wayward Pip Quest Button

You get the option to Dig (20AP) in the Great Desert regardless of whether you are questing for pips or not. Incen 13:52, 19 February 2008 (GMT)

And indeed as the Outback Outcrops appear to be copies of the Outcrops found in the Great Desert, they also give one the option to Dig (20AP). -Stelio 22:30, 20 February 2008 (GMT)

Mud too bright

The mud around Old Unfaithful is the only terrain in the Lost World that is "too bright". -- Sertularian 03:17, 18 February 2008 (GMT)

I think Raquel's cave and Mount Lightning are bright too. Caves aren't dark up here either... Kaos Dragon 04:13, 18 February 2008 (GMT)

Consuming a Pizza Slice doesn't consume a Pizza Slice

Today I accidentally ate one of my pizza slices instead of attacking a tortoise with it. The result: 2 HP more, but no Pizza Slice lost (had 62 slices before and still had 62 slices afterwards). Didn't check if that applies to other consumables as well. Flt 09:03, 14 February 2008 (GMT)

Bag Contents Disappear

This is a weird one. I'm not sure how I'll be able to prove it, or if it's reversible. I have a new character, Wind Lipara. He's at the party. I'm going the Calm Breeze route (sorta) and creating a noncombatant character. I borrowed some books from Prthivi. His bag contained five or six of the talisman maker books, plus a load of singles, for later Shamanery.

I empty the bag, bringing my total to 19 AP. I'm at the party. I equip reading glasses. I try to equip a book. The page refreshes. I now suddenly have 21 AP, none of the singles or the books. I still have the bag, but it is completely empty. Helpz0rz? --Ade 02:11, 12 February 2008 (GMT)

Parties. Don't talk to me about parties. Or race conditions. Don't talk to me about parties and race conditions. Or locking. Don't talk to me about parties, race conditions, or locking. Or... Darksatanic 20:14, 14 February 2008 (GMT)
I shall now converse with you about parties, race conditions, locking and ..., so please do keep up with me. --Prthivi 22:35, 12 March 2008 (GMT)

Wolf in Disguise

When wearing a disguise kit while turning into a werewolf, you take off the disguise kit, but stay disguised. So after turning back into a human you're still disguised without wearing the disguise kit. Flt 13:03, 9 February 2008 (GMT)

Same for hats. When you un-wolf, you're still "wearing" the hat, but it doesn't count toward your fashion score. --Greycat 14:22, 9 February 2008 (GMT)
The hats thing is pretty normal. If you steal a hat while wearing a helmet, you get the hat in your inventory, but you don't put it on. It still displays on your character, and it can still be stolen. It's just a measure to ensure hats are neither created nor destroyed, nor can be "hidden." PotatoEngineer 20:27, 10 March 2008 (GMT)

Bling Wraith armor bypass?

Your Haubergeon absorbs 2 damage.
The Bling Wraith causes 48 points of damage.

The hell? S. Mackie 05:40, 6 February 2008 (GMT)

Creation page messed up

When viewing the character creation page in Internet Explorer, the earth element is mashed into the alignment thing and the username and password fields are filled with the text that comes before them.


Building a fruitcake consumes the bottle that contained the brandy. Gonzometro 19:40, 30 January 2008 (GMT)

Please fix quickly!!!!!!!! Can't feed Winged Horsie!

Here I am, on 'Kingdom Air going to Oz while flying on my Winged Horsie and I can't feed her! The poor girl's pregnant, eating for two, and I can't even satiate her basic hunger. Here is the message I get:

Unknown action: _feed

I'm able to feed my other pets, but for some reason not my Horsie. Help! Azuaron 15:49, 20 January 2008 (GMT)

Okay, I landed (still on the plane) and could feed. Must be an interaction between flying and being on the plane. Azuaron 15:56, 20 January 2008 (GMT)


So I'm flying around again, and now I can't feed, even though I'm not on the plane. So, apparently it's just "no feeding while flying," which is perfectly okay, but maybe there should be a message to that effect instead of "Unknown action: _feed"? Azuaron 11:08, 12 March 2008 (GMT)

Where have I gone?

I was on someones horsie, and now I am just...gone... Screenshot

I think this may be related to the Flying Horsie in your pocket bug. Am I in someones pocket??

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Bookmobile loss

Bookmobile#2 (#1638) has just disappeared in trading from Alberta to Cpl. Duke beata MD - is it possible to Magically recover it? - Alberta 04:39, 1 January 2008 (GMT)

How did it get lost? Where were you trading it? - Cameron 15:13, 1 January 2008 (GMT)

In a regular TP trade, at the Park Bench, with only the two of us present - Alberta 22:01, 1 January 2008 (GMT)


I was out of town for Christmas, just got back this morning. Had a pet sitter, he just gave me back my pets. Osk, my War Horsie, was pregnant when I handed her over. Osk was pregnant an hour ago when she was last fed by the sitter. When I received Osk back from the sitter, she no longer said that she was pregnant! And neither of us have a newborn pwny in our hands, either. Neither of us got any messages about pwnys being born (dead or alive)

help! density 14:48, 28 December 2007 (GMT)

Speed Delivery from the ACME Factory

I ordered a parcel from the ACME Factory today. They apparently sacked their logistics office for a new much better one. The parcel arrived in no time:

You send off your order. It should be here in about 0 days.
You lose 20000 Gold Pieces.

and i could pick it up right away:

You gain a Parcel (Parcel for flt).

(Internal) -- Player cache doesn't work properly

There's a bug where a player object can be requested from the cache and the player's data returned in a new object instead of a reference to the original object. This causes roll-back-like effects, but is deterministic for specific players. Darksatanic 22:35, 26 January 2008 (GMT)

Stuck in a Rollback Loop

I'm doing the Mixology quest in the Great Hall on Ignatz's Retreat. I'm either 3 sheets to the wind or stuck is a weird rollback loop. Help me! --Tiltowait 17:13, 19 December 2007 (GMT)

Wow, I'm badly hosed. Any AP I spend are rolled back, I lose the effects of whatever I did, and am back at the Great Hall. The really really weird effect is teleporting someplace with a talisman, then snapping back to my starting point as soon as I try to move. I've tried activities that burn a lot of AP to see if I needed to snap out of the cocktail buzz. Has any one run into this before? --Tiltowait 12:41, 20 December 2007 (GMT)
Yes, happened to me as well. I think it happens when you're under the influence of more than one teleporting cocktail. They both try to send you to a random location confusing the database. The only thing that helped me at that time was to find a kind fellow to summon me away. I'm nowhere close to Harvey's Retreat, but if you want I'll summon you to the 'kingdom. Flt 13:50, 20 December 2007 (GMT)
Any port in a storm. I humbly request any assistance you are willing to render. And I promise not to complain about the side effects of any good Samaritan. --Tiltowait 16:22, 20 December 2007 (GMT)
BTW, your explanation makes sense. I was slamming cocktails as fast as possible to complete the quest, because I had all the materials at hand. No doubt I am under multiple effects still. That's part of the reason I was attempting to burn so many AP all at once, that all the effects might wear off. --Tiltowait 16:25, 20 December 2007 (GMT)
skold is going to try giving you a summon. This will put you in fire city, though. Hope it worksdensity 17:28, 20 December 2007 (GMT)
Worked perfectly. Thanks for the help! --Tiltowait 18:43, 20 December 2007 (GMT)

Something's wrong with mixology

Harvey didn't let me learn the Egg Nogg. I was rather drunk (wankered) at the time already, but don't think that caused it. Every time I tried to learn it, a rollback happened and I needed to learn it again. On top of that, every movement, switching inventory items and so on also caused the rollback. I had to be summoned away. Rockefellow 13:05, 7 October 2007 (BST)

OK, here's my theory about what's wrong. I've been summoned back to the 'kingdom but the rollbacks still happen. I'm under the influence of two cocktails that cause random teleports (Bloinkk!). When attempting to do anything that costs a bit more AP, both cocktails try to Bloinkk me what maybe doesn't happen one after the other, but at the same time instead. Rockefellow 15:18, 7 October 2007 (BST)
You lose a Pint of Milk.
You lose a Bottle of Kahlua.
You lose a Bottle of Vodka.
You lose 3 Empty Cocktail Glasses.
Ignatz takes the booze and starts mixing in his custom diamond encrusted misril cocktail shaker.
You watch carefully...
He pours out 3 cocktails... 'One for me, one for you to try, and you might as well hang on to the third.
You gain 2 White Russians.
You lose a White Russian.
That put hairs on your chest.
You gain an Empty Cocktail Glass.
You sing 'sSzzsssEE the little GOooblin!'
You lose a White Russian.
That put hairs on your chest.
You gain an Empty Cocktail Glass.
1 mixes learned.

I had to drink both White Russians Ignatz gave me. Incen 11:36, 20 February 2008 (GMT)

I think this bug is more relevant, since the above seems to be more like a race condition. --Dragon 18:30, 20 February 2008 (GMT)

Caravel in the PotMK

Standing on my Caravel in the PotMK, using my cannon on the heads... I can't see the caravel under my feet when I am on board it (in all other respects it works as expected) --naath 10:21, 17 December 2007 (GMT)

Strange Powder's damage multiplier does not add to spells

Strange Powder's description states that its damage-multiplier-improving abilities happen after spells. This is not the case: I just attacked a Plot Bunny while under the effects of Fleeting Strength and Strange Powder, and only did the damage of the Fleeting Strength. PotatoEngineer 01:46, 9 December 2007 (GMT)

Guild Pass Expired Immediatly after Buying

I bought a guild pass from the order of the wyrm at 3:41am .. and it was (expired) immediatly upon purchase. Rembrandt 03:43, 6 December 2007 (GMT)

Second pass = no problems mon.
Same thing just happened to me, except it was the second one I bought today.--Hamelin 01:31, 17 December 2007 (GMT)

No Whale in the Tarot

Aren't Whales supposed to spawn on the death of a Whale? There are currently none in my tarot deck :(

Per Monster_Spawning_Rules, Whenever any player acts, the paths within view of that player are checked. If a path has been empty for its set amount of time, a monster has a chance of spawning on that path (although it doesn't always occur). Thus, monster spawning is caused directly triggered by player actions. So the whale will respawn, but for the tarot deck to find it, someone has to see the square. There is also mention of whale spawning and how it doesn't always work as should. --TheRealKilgore 00:12, 25 November 2007 (GMT)
There's a bug in the respawning code -- currently they don't respawn properly sometimes. Kilgore's observation, while true for most monsters, doesn't apply here. Darksatanic 09:28, 17 December 2007 (GMT)

Werewolf item intereaction

I was flying on Lightning Fury...and turned into a werewolf (putting her in my "pocket")...when I got back on, I had to seems odd to me that I had a flying Horsie, actually FLYING in my pocket. Spacer one 19:44, 15 November 2007 (GMT)

Werewolves dont regenerate

Ok, not a bug...But in almost every movie/story of werewolves, they regenerate. I propose a 1 HP:AP regen rate for players, and a 5HP:turn regen for monsters Spacer one 19:44, 15 November 2007 (GMT)

Missing Werewolf Background

The Werewolf background doesn't display for me when I'm in Lupine form. I'm a (Level 3) Wizard, if that helps. -- Sertularian 16:29, 10 November 2007 (GMT) Nor for me (I'm a Shaman)--naath 15:27, 14 November 2007 (GMT)

The toad background never worked for me as an apprentice. Haven't been one for a while, so can't talk about as a Shaman. I'm not a werewolf neither, so can't comment about that. (This potentially pointless blathering was brought to you today by the letter 'B', which I would appreciate more of, and the number '7', which I would 'love' at least one of to topple a rogue reptile... ignore me.) Stoo 18:35, 14 November 2007 (GMT)
Are you using scripts (Bebe's Glasses?) ??...try turning off the scripts...thats what I have to do...I am a MA and my MA b/g shows fine, but not my WW one. Spacer one 19:45, 15 November 2007 (GMT)

Interestingly, the Werewolf background overrides the black background of a duellist. Though that's more feature than bug, of course. -Stelio 08:58, 9 February 2008 (GMT)

Attacking Confused Adolescent Tortoise

Possible bug. Order of events:

  1. Attacked Adolescent Tortoise with Pizza Slice becomes Eating Tortoise
  2. Eating Tortoise hits me for 40pt damage.
  3. Used Clean a Bandage to put my hp over max damage of a Tortoise.
  4. Attack with a Long Bow (miss to many times).
  5. Eating Tortoise hits me for another 40pt damage.
  6. Use Flashgun Eating Tortoise becomes Confused.
  7. Attack with a Long Bow (hit every time no damage?).
  8. Tortoise hits me and I died ;-(.

All of the above took place in less than five minutes. Two question (bugs ?) :-(

  • A) Does firing the flashgun reset the Eating Tortoise to Adolescent Tortoise?
  • B) Why did the confused Tortoise attack me?

Didbert 11:45, 2 November 2007 (GMT)

Guild resignation letters

... don't clear the player's membership of the guild correctly. Darksatanic 00:14, 15 October 2007 (BST)

also they reappear in one's inventory after resigning - quite the same as the Guild Namer does. --rockefellow

Mistaken Guild Pass

Guild Pass: A Guild Pass from the Guild Ticket Office guild, good for another 23 hours

I don't think there is a "Guild Ticket Office guild"...

Aligned Catanas are Quiet

...too quiet. No yowling, hissing, etc. --Dragon 06:10, 8 October 2007 (BST)

Mine lost its purr. It's somehow just not the same. Greycat 15:15, 9 October 2007 (BST)
Caused by the rework to generalised alignment items. Darksatanic 22:35, 26 January 2008 (GMT)

Earth Initiation has no effect

Hmmm, suspicious no one else has seen this, but I completed my Earth initiation after drinking 4 bottles of wine and 3 exotic cocktails. Got the success message and saw the treasure hunt list, but my max HP didn't increase! I thought maybe when I sobered up it would take effect, but no. -HarryStuffy 13:31, 7 October 2007 (BST)

Broken Space Invaders

Aligning a Space Invader to something other then the 4 base elements breaks it.

Magic Mud Bug

I tried to make a 1 HP 0 damage golem and got the following message:

You would need 0 pointy sticks.

I checked my inventory and sure enough, I didn't have any pointy sticks. So I made some and tried again. It worked just fine, consuming the proper number of pointy sticks (0). -Scrumbucket 22:45, 4 October 2007 (BST)

ah, that's because $player->has( "Foo", 0) is the same as $player->has( "Foo", undef) which defaults to 1 ... weird.

Wand names are wrong

I notice since the 'King's rework of the elemental stuff, that the advanced elemental wands are misnamed. My "Earth Wand +1" has turned into an "Earth Wand2". Similarly, I now have "Fire Wand2" and "Air Wand2". Intentional, or a bug? -- Thog 17:37, 4 October 2007 (BST)

Same with the advanced elemental weapons. My "Flaming Sword"s are now "Fire Sword2"s.

-Scrumbucket 23:42, 4 October 2007 (BST)

Well, they're not wrong per se, as those are the internal names for the weapons.--Hamelin 04:54, 21 October 2007 (BST)

Leaderboards broken?

Report 1

If I check any of the leaderboards under the "Other" list, I get bounced to the login screen. All monster boards work fine, but the other ones (experience points, number of times died, etc) all trigger the login. -- Thog 18:08, 26 September 2007 (BST)

I'll chime in that I see this sometimes, but not always, and after several tries, I can usually get to the leaderboard. PotatoEngineer 18:21, 26 September 2007 (BST)

Report 2

I've twice been forcibly logged out when checking a league table entry. It was one of the KoT links both times, but it's not consistent - I can usually get in OK. Naius 01:41, 19 December 2006 (GMT)

Shafted out of a flaming sword

You lose 16 Mana. You lose 2 Fire Swords. You gain a Flaming Sword.

You lose 16 Mana. You lose 2 Fire Swords. You gain a Flaming Sword.

Casting Enchant Fire Sword from my spellbook. Unfortunately I was shafted out of 2 fire swords and 16 mana. Only one flaming sword appeared in my inventory. I cast the spell within quick succession (probably the second was cast 3 - 5 seconds after the first).

If possible I'd like my fire swords back if anything. Mana would be great, but eh. I know how it is sometimes. --Ade 03:47, 18 September 2007 (BST)

Heavy Boots Broken

Heavy boots do not prevent summoning, even if the summonee has sufficient (in my case, 250+) kudos. --Dragon 23:38, 16 September 2007 (BST)

Spell casting to an Eye pod also uses less AP than advertised

The rolling list of spells indicates a certain AP cost, and the upload button another. It seems only the button is taken into account, making the total cost only 10 AP--Solune 20:25, 3 October 2007 (BST)

Broken Clocks

24 hours after you feed a croc a clock, nothing happens.

Disguise Kit, Spirit Alignment is nihil

Gives the Neutral look instead.--Bubba_the_Shy 21:22, 27 August 2007 (BST)

I get the same thing when I try to wear an Air aligned Disguise Kit. -- Cthu1hu 09:26, 6 February 2008 (GMT)
As do I. However, it's worth noting that at least Spirit works for Wizards (I didn't try Air as a Wiz). It only seems flaky for Knights -- Thog 13:38, 6 February 2008 (GMT)
Spirit works for me, the only alignment that doesn't is Air. Could player alignment have something to do with it? I'm a firey Sgt. Duke. -Scrumbucket 19:05, 6 February 2008 (GMT)
Well, I'm presently Earth-Aligned. I note that Earth and Air are adjacent in the pick-list, as are Spirit and Fire, although not adjacent in the same direction... -- Cthu1hu 02:31, 9 February 2008 (GMT)

Sai AP cost error

The hovering info when using Sais after the Sai training says that it will only cost 1AP, but still takes an AP for every attack.

All Hail The Horn of Blank Screens!

So Durkon's currently sitting at the party. When he tries to blow the Horn of Heimdall, I get a blank screen in response and nothing happens in game. This appears to be happening consistently, and stepping out of sight of the party allows the horn to work correctly -- Thog 16:18, 2 August 2007 (BST)

Probably something to do with the bug that causes people to be unable to say things at a party. I have some ideas that I can play with. Darksatanic 23:13, 4 August 2007 (BST)
Just to make it clear, standing not on the party but with the party visible causes this as well. --BlaisedeC 21:26, 5 August 2007 (BST)
Yes, that would make sense. It's trying to load all the players at the party to send the audible event to them, and it's not managing it. Darksatanic 21:31, 5 August 2007 (BST)

Laughing Ghost

For the Eleventh Trail, attacking a Laughing Ghost with a spirit catcher yields a bound spirit but no Man Key. I'm not sure if this is a bug or if its intended. Gonzometro 22:31, 30 July 2007 (BST)

I don't think using a spirit catcher kills the ghosts. They don't show up on the kill leagues that way at any rate. Stoo 22:37, 30 July 2007 (BST)
Also, it still got an attack when I caught it. Gonzometro 23:08, 30 July 2007 (BST)
That also happens with Hungry Ghosts when you use a Spirit Catcher. I've lost quite a lot of XP that way.... Andrewsi 07:41, 31 July 2007 (BST)

Cacophony of Tune-Ups

Every single party is a noisy orchestral tune-up of practicing musicians, but never once do you hear a solo or a concert or even just somebody rocking out. Apparently, practicing is noisy, but rocking out isn't. Sounds like an error to me, as this is wildly inconsistent with Eugene's and London's musical atmospheres in my experience. S. Mackie 23:20, 27 July 2007 (BST)

Guild Initiation is free?

Although the Button said it'll cost 5 AP to initiate somebody, I lost no AP when initiating 3 new members. Flt 15:21, 27 July 2007 (BST)

Update: It costs 5 AP when I click the 'Initiate' button. As soon as the message GUILD: XXX has joined! showes, the 5 AP are back on my counter.
Probably related to the Cities:Bugs#.28Internal.29_--_Player_cache_doesn.27t_work_properly bug above.

Kudos to Nobody?

I accidentally hit the "Kudos!" button without putting in a name. I lost 1 kudo, 1 AP, and received the message:

You send  kudos.

(Double space intended.) -Scrumbucket 06:23, 27 July 2007 (BST)

Front 242 Shirts cause 'King Fiddling when they break

As a part of my collection quest, I am breaking every t-shirt I can get my hands on. Bauhaus broke just fine (after copious application of a toy unicorn to 27 gulls). When I wear a Front 242 shirt, however, I get a 'king fiddling error every.... once in a while. As in roughly once every 250 hits to the shirt, which is the (guessed) break frequency. It's happened twice so far in about 500 shirt hits (checked via Big Brother). PotatoEngineer 05:02, 19 July 2007 (BST)

Follow-up: the rest of the shirts break fine. Must have been a copy-paste error for the Front 242 shirt. PotatoEngineer 08:52, 27 September 2007 (BST)

Can't Talk

Every time I try to say anything with two or more other players present, I get back a blank page. When I reconnect and check my history, it appears as if I failed to actually say it. I've tried turning off Greasemonkey, extremely short sentences, singing and shouting, but none of it works. -Scrumbucket 06:57, 15 July 2007 (BST)

I haven't tested as thoroughly as Scrumbucket, but I'll chime in that I can't speak at parties. PotatoEngineer 10:13, 17 July 2007 (BST)
Neither can I. --BlaisedeC/Alan Jordan 16:43, 18 July 2007 (BST)
It's been intermittent for me. Sometimes it'll take me 3-4 tries to be able to say something at a party. More often, I just give up. --Greycat 21:57, 20 July 2007 (BST)

Golden Condor Control Room Map looks extra-funky

First off, the map still actually WORKS. No need to panic.

The problem is that the actual map-part is squished to the left, and there's a black area to the right that's full of coordinates in black-on-black text. (Note: I left after seeing this, so it's remotely possible that the server or connection just dropped half of the page somewhere. The page did stop loading, though.) PotatoEngineer 10:58, 12 July 2007 (BST)

Show Inventory Stevie's Way hides quantities

I have been informed that the original intent of "Show Inventory Stevie's Way" was for the invent page to list items the same way as the drop-down box and bag contents ("item name x quantity"). Instead it just shows item name. --BlaisedeC 17:14, 11 July 2007 (BST)

Snowshoes need attention

Report 1

Snowshoes are increasing my movement cost instead of decreasing it. Wearing nothing my move from the Sauna to Snow is 6. Wearing Magic Boots it's 4. Adding a Pair of Snowshoes brings it back to 6! --BlaisedeC 19:42, 10 July 2007 (BST)

Still not working properly. Phw 23:37, 4 August 2007 (BST)

Report 2

Apparently, you can wear several pairs of snowshoes over your regular shoes

Report 3

I am able to equip multiple pairs of snowshoes and also another piece of footware at the same time. The effects seem be be cumulative, as to the AP to move increases with each pair when trying to travel over non-icy terrain. Fun Assassin 09:39, 21 September 09:39:36 (BST)

Report 4

The snowshoes do decrease snow movement and increase non-snow movement, but they ignore other movement modifiers. They also seem to apply their modifiers in a more or less permanent fashion, overriding other movement items, such that I was able to get a movement penalty to stick around even after removing all worn items, by combining several sets of snowshoes and a pair of winged boots in a specific order. The penalty was very real, not just a display issue. The permanent penalty went away when I selected another movement item from the item menu, however. Incen 21:02, 11 May 2008 (BST)

Report 5

Snowshoes also affect (increase) movement cost while on a boat or sea horsie. Misosumo 19:49, 25 May 2008 (BST)

Time to nerf the toad spell

I've been able to bypass 2 quests already: the sewers and pandora's pitt. Can someone free me from that toad addiction ? --Solune 20:07, 5 July 2007 (BST)

Broken glass in mixed drinks?

When you make a mixed drink, you don't get back any empty bottles that were holding the liquids you used. Are we all going to die of massive internal bleeding, or is it simply that a cocktail shaker uses glass to fuel its fiendish processes? PotatoEngineer 13:48, 5 July 2007 (BST)

Firecrackers and Visibilty

Apparently, you can tell what a firecracker scares off even if you can't see it. I just set off a huge firecracker and saw a Nodule running away. (I'm a Duke.) -Scrumbucket 02:26, 5 July 2007 (BST)

You light the fuse...
The sound scares away the Nodule.
You lose a Huge Fire Cracker.
Perhaps you can see it displacing the smoke from the fire cracker? It might be better if the message was "The sound scares away something invisible", since you'd probably be able to hear it running away. - Isambard 02:49, 5 July 2007 (BST)

Disguises are too effective?

<dragon> btw, darkling:  I'm not sure if a disguise kit (or spartacus mask, etc.) shields you 
         if you attack a dibsed monster, but it probably shouldn't....
<darkling> Umm. It probably does. Report it as a bug?

Also when you kick down a sand castle. --Dragon 02:20, 16 June 2007 (BST)

quote escaping in crowd list

Apostrophes (== single quotes) in character names cause premature termination of a crowd list, as they are not escaped:

<div class="crowd"  title='The Dread Pirate Kitty, Mr. T, Cpl. Duke Rackmount MD, Duke Tha'l Ghul MD, Apprentice The Badger, Duke Tiltowait MD'  >Lots of People</div>


The Dread Pirate Kitty, Mr. T, Cpl. Duke Rackmount MD, Duke Tha

- jmb 17:16, 12 June 2007 (BST)

Wearing out in the Great Desert

When an item wears out on moving, you remain in the same space that you were in rather than moving and the AP for the move is not deducted from your total. All well and good. However in the Great Desert, you are still liable to take damage from moving across unsafe even though you haven't actually moved. Here's an example:

The Desert Fox lets you pass.
Your Field Glasses has worn out.
You take off a Field Glasses.
You lose a Field Glasses.
You are forced to drink from your water skin. 88% remaining.

Actual physical location and AP value were unchanged. Not a major problem since, of course, one should not allow oneself to get into a position where one is in mortal peril, but presumably this is a bug and therefore worth reporting. :-) -Stelio 01:09, 7 June 2007 (BST)

Steel Bars

There's a known bug in the problem generator for the steel bars in the Level 3 Armourer quest. If you encounter it, don't try solving the problem, it may not have a unique solution. I'll fix it tonight. There's only really three people currently at risk of this anyway... Darksatanic 12:31, 31 May 2007 (BST)

Fixed. The graphics still suck, though. :( Darksatanic 23:08, 31 May 2007 (BST)
They indeed do :-P There's another bug to them though: The riddle generator forgets to check for double numbers. My riddle had two bars of the same length that belonged to different sides. The result is, I now have to check at two different locations. Flt 22:00, 6 June 2007 (BST)
and the first location was not the right location. But... they weren't that horribly far from each other. Now I just got to scrounge 40 silve ores. sigh -skold
Is there an ETA for the fix for this? I have three independent locations (two ways to solve the problem, and bars of the same length) Ordinarily, I wouldn't care, but they're all in the middle of the ocean, and not really close to each other. -- Durkon 17:16, 15 June 2007 (BST)
Well, after the latest fix I no longer have three solutions. The bad news is, I still have two (unless I've done the math wrong) -- Durkon 15:08, 18 June 2007 (BST)
OK, I'll try to put in some time this week to sort out why this code is generating multiple solutions. Darksatanic 15:15, 18 June 2007 (BST)

Boarding Boats

I'm trapped in the North Ocean. I can't board my boat because the oil platform I'm standing on won't let me. Also, you can't board boats from a bridge (though this one might be deliberate.) Gonzometro 00:27, 1 June 2007 (BST)

Have you tried stepping off with winged boots? - Isambard 01:55, 1 June 2007 (BST)
Daedalus wings should work, too. Everybody has a pair of those rummaging around in the bottom of the junk drawer. PotatoEngineer 02:36, 1 June 2007 (BST)
That's a negatron on both of those ideas. I did manage to escape from an adjacent (non-oil platform) square. I still consider this a bug. Gonzometro 03:14, 1 June 2007 (BST)
Should be fixed now. I hope. Darksatanic 11:19, 1 June 2007 (BST)
I was actually about to post this same bug myself... seems its not fixed :( I'm standing on an adjacent square, wearing winged boots AND daedalus wings but i cant escape, and cant board my boat on either square Z0ltar 16:54, 3 June 2007 (BST)

info.xml does not report mixology status accurately

Earlier, BlaisedeC had 3 mixes unlearned: Vodka Martini, Dry Martini, and Zombie. The info.xml page showed 3 mix tags set to 0: BrownCow, Daiquiri, and TomCollins. Currently, Lalumi has one mix learned: Bloody Mary. The info.xml page shows 1 mix tag set to 1: BrandyAlexander. --BlaisedeC 04:58, 29 May 2007 (BST)

Nightingspell Malpractice

I got hit by a nightingbreeze spell, and I am now losing 1HP per AP spent. I'm not under the effects of anything else that might cause this. This would also explain why a number of people are reporting no effect from two of them--if the "good" and "bad" effects are canceling out. --Dragon 21:17, 27 May 2007 (BST)

Pet Rock Did Damage

You attack the Gygax.
You roll your die, and get a 17.
You cause 17 points of damage, and receive 119 experience.
Watson attacks the Gygax for 1 damage.
The Gygax rolls a D20.
The Gygax causes 9 points of damage.

Watson, of course, is my pet rock. At first I thought he had grown up, but when I checked he was still listed as damage: 0. The only thing I can come up with is because pets do fractional damage to Gygaxes it got rounded up somehow? -Scrumbucket 21:26, 22 May 2007 (BST)

Team Ring Error

When I click to find my team members on my team ring, I get the "king fiddling" error page. Shambler 16:25, 14 May 2007 (BST)

Invisibility spell not working in the path of trials

cloak of invisibility works though--Solune 18:10, 4 May 2007 (BST)

Report 2:Security Barrier not grasping Invisibility

Trail of Trials. I need to continue forward now, willing to lose the AP required by the Cloak of Invisibility, but the GLs should know they now owe me an Invisibility spell, 2 mana, and an Old Boot. I lost good booty and a fair amount of AP because that invisibility spell didn't work. S. Mackie 21:54, 6 July 2007 (BST)

Problems with closing and reopening Vaults

This could be related to the #.28Internal.29_--_Player_cache_doesn.27t_work_properly bug above. Darksatanic 17:01, 28 January 2008 (GMT)

Report 1

I'm standing right on the Hammered Anvil Society Vault (not my own) holding a matching key and can't access the vault's contents. Copying the key, renaming the key, logging out/in, one step back and forth, taking off and putting on equipment/pets as well as waiting for a long time doesn't help. I thought this bug was fixed? Rockefellow 12:47, 24 April 2007 (BST)

I second this - I once tried to set up a vault and managed to botch it (closed the vault accidentally). I can't remember which vault I had, and since then every time I've tried to set up a new vault I get a message that I already have a vault. Is there some way to reset/zero the "has a vault" counter, or possibly search the vault list and erase mine, or even tell me which one it is? - Cthu1hu 13:20, 28 April 2007 (GMT)

I also closed my vault by mistake and would like to open a new one, but keep getting the error saying i have one already. Is there any way to get around this? (Kitoushi in-game) --Kohaku295 18:51, 1 July 2007 (BST)

Report 2

Last I checked, you were supposed to get a Stall Permit back once you closed a stall. Well, I did so, and got all my goods back, but no stall permit? Bug, or did someone change their minds again? -- Durkon 13:07, 12 September 2006 (BST)

Same thing happened to me, and I also lost the items which were on the stall... GrumpyNick 08:36, 25 September 2006 (BST)

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AAAARGHHH ! I closed my vault and I didn't get any of its content back. Was it really supposed to go that way ? It was vault Q8.--Solune 10:21, 26 January 2007 (GMT)

Problems with closing and reopening stalls

This could be related to the #.28Internal.29_--_Player_cache_doesn.27t_work_properly bug above. Darksatanic 17:02, 28 January 2008 (GMT)

Report 1

Every time I've tried to open a stall, I've gotten this message:

"Hmm, your shop appears to have burned down or something weird. I blame database pixies. You lose a Stall Permit (6 items). Commence commerce!"

Has anyone else seen this message? Is it a random thing with stall permits that sometimes they don't work?


That's a message that you should only get if you had previously hit the "couldn't open a stall after closing one" bug. Darksatanic 15:17, 8 February 2007 (GMT)

Report 2

On advice from this page - - that I would get back all the items from the stall, as well as a permit if I closed it. However - no items, no 60k gold it owes me, no permit. That's really kinda annoying. Any way of fixing this and getting my stuff back? XXXXXXXXXX

Midas Wand gold

Midas Wands only give a single Bit of Gold on the killing blow, no matter how many HP the monster has. If they partially turn the monster earlier, you still get the full gold from that. --Dragon 03:35, 19 April 2007 (BST)

Just had that happen to me, too. One-hit-killed a Bloody Big Bat with 12800 HP:

You attack the Bloody Big Bat.
You turn the Bloody Big Bat to gold.
You gain a Bit of Gold.
You slay the Bloody Big Bat.
You gain 103 Gold Pieces.
You gain 8 Doses of Antidote.
You gain a Clean Bandage.

Lidon 12:43, 11 June 2007 (BST)

XML Bug?

Trying to have a look at the XML document and I get the following for both invent and info.

XML Parsing Error: no element found
Line Number 1, Column 1:

No biggy if it works from Phw 00:55, 5 April 2007 (BST)

Random Cocktail Teleports happen not random at all - and wrongly

You attack the Booze Hound.
You cause 80 points of damage, and receive 400 experience.
You lose an Arrow.
You attack the Booze Hound.
You cause 20 points of damage, and receive 100 experience.
You lose an Arrow.
You slay the Booze Hound. 

I don't think I should be able to attack the booze hound from non-adjacent places and want to point out that someone needs to look into it again. In case of a random teleport happening the game should check if the action one is about to perform can actually be finished at the new coordinates. Someone else also experienced this bug: I remember he enchanted a talisman, but after several random teleports he was in the Great Desert - in his hand a Talisman to where he had landed, not to where he had enchanted it. Flt 13:41, 3 April 2007 (BST)

Can I get some healing?

I'm standing on a square with no less than three full-fledged MDs, and I'm willing to bet at least one of them is On Call with enough AP to heal me. Unfortunately, there's 9 total people on the square, so it just says "Lots of People" and I can't get my healing. I'm not sure if this is exactly a "bug" per se, but I would like to be able to heal in these situations. Azuaron 19:50, 1 April 2007 (BST)

Should post under "Suggestions" - Like you said, it's really not a bug. I don't disagree with your suggestion though :) Syagrius

Parrots fight back

When I hit a parrot with a fish (a very obvious thing to do), it flies away, leaves cool stuff and then attacks me. Flt 17:37, 10 March 2007 (GMT)

Maybe it dropped the goodies on your foot? Gonzometro 03:59, 18 March 2007 (GMT)

Mixology Quest

shouldn't the mixology quest show up in 'quests in progress'?

Spirit-Binding a Custom Weapon

Report 1

When I bound a spirit to my custom 10-damage weapon called "an Idea" (not my fault), I got the following message:

You lose an an Idea.
You lose a Bound Spirit.
You gain an ERROR(, couldn't run GAME/Item/.pm).

I found that if I equipped something else, "an Idea" showed up on the weapons list (occasionally it was known as ERROR(, couldn't run GAME/Item/.pm)), but once the screen refreshed, it became ERROR(, couldn't run GAME/Item/.pm) again. Not to be deterred, I tested this on a Jabberwock, only to find that it did 0 damage. Now, I'm not particularly attached to this weapon, as it's mostly to fulfill my inexplicable quest, but since I plan on getting a 16-damage weapon sometime, this will be a problem in the future. If custom weapons aren't designed to be the ultimate Jabberwock-banes, what are they good for? +) PotatoEngineer 07:59, 19 February 2007 (GMT)

They are supposed to be bane-able, but this clearly needs sorting out. I've done enough coding on cities for a few days but I'll get it sorted soon enough. 15:29, 19 February 2007 (GMT)
Update: the buggy item is now called ERROR(No type!), if that helps. PotatoEngineer 09:20, 12 May 2007 (BST)
Argh. I forgot to post the internal name of the item. It's "Bane.9165". PotatoEngineer 07:30, 17 May 2007 (BST)

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I just tried to attach a bound spirit to a weapon I'd had specially made for jabberwock killing, and this is the result:

You lose a Rackmount's Blade Sever.

You lose a Bound Spirit.

You gain an ERROR(, couldn't run GAME/Item/.pm). I'm down one bound spirit and one incredibly time-consuming weapon, with nothing in return. Boo! :( Rackmount 08:26, 10 March 2007 (GMT)

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I had a Spanker, a very nice custom weapon I bought in the Mall. Not cheap, but great specs. I tried to bind it with a bound spirit (obtained from a present). I lost the spanker, a bound spirit, and gained a ERROR(No type!). The ERROR(No type!) disappeared after my first ap spent. Are custom weapons not elligible for binding? It doesn't say anything about that on the Bound Spirit Page. Loosing a bound spirit and a custom weapon is a rather expensive loss. -- Kilgore 1 September 2007

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just happened to me. same thing Error(No Type!)

You lose a Bound to the Job. You lose a Bound Spirit. You gain an ERROR(No type!). Donkey 16:11, 9 May 2008 (BST)

Scrapping weapon doesn't really return metal

When you scrap a weapon in progress, it says eg. "You gain 767 Bits of Bronze." - but you don't actually seem to receive it. Vashka 10:21, 14 February 2007 (GMT)

Mirror doesn't affect Compass

So one currently has his vision mirrored (due to a Mirror Monster) and as such, also has his Compass pointing in the opposite of the right direction. This is all fine, BUT when one also equips a Mirror, the Compass remains unturned (still in the opposite direction).

P.S. Could someone with normal, unturned vision equip a Mirror and see if their Compass is pointing correctly or in the opposite direction? --Bubba_the_Shy 19:22, 28 January 2007 (GMT)

My compass is still pointing in the same direction after equipping the mirror. --Jpv 17:50, 30 January 2007 (GMT)
So it's definitely a bug. --Bubba_the_Shy 17:21, 22 March 2007 (GMT)

Two different Sing functions

Those who have gained the ability to sing generally, have reported (e.g. Sert, Macksting, Mr Foo) that at an open-mic night, both sing buttons trigger the "join in the singing" for the open-mic and cost 3AP. We suspect the open-mic function is being attached second and overriding the generic sing. Naius 23:07, 22 December 2006 (GMT)

Bugged Tarot Deck?

Report 1

You spread the cards...
The cards indicate that the nearest one is about 9 squares away to the West South West.
You go West.  You go West.  You go South. You go South. You go West. You go West. You go South. You go West. You go South.
You spread the cards...
The cards indicate that the nearest one is about 4 squares away to the West.
You go West. You go West. You go West. You go West. You go West.
You spread the cards...
The cards indicate that the nearest one is about 3 squares away to the South South West.
You go West. You go South. You go South. 
You spread the cards...
The cards indicate that the nearest one is about 8 squares away to the South South East.
You go South. You go East. You go South. You go South. You go East. You go South. You go South.
I followed the directions of the cards three times each times leading me to no Manatee, is this a bug? Or are the manatees that hard to find? All three times were withing seconds from when I spread the cards. -Stien 13:57, 18 December 2006 (GMT)
Manatees are invisible. It's also possible that they have died before you got there (by a player's hand, or of old age - apparently monsters don't actually disappear until somebody coud have seen them). Droll 14:47, 18 December 2006 (GMT)
What Droll said. I often have this problem if I'm looking for sea monsters in areas that aren't sailed very often. hendsch 14:54, 18 December 2006 (GMT)
This has been reported before. I'm still wondering if it's a lost cause, or if the idea I proposed earlier (resetting a monster's time-to-live when it's detected by tarot) is feasible.... --Dragon 18:22, 18 December 2006 (GMT)
I must say that the monsters in cities have it all over schrodinger's cat. The great lords don't poke directly at character or monster attributes very often (consider the whole business with the primary key or the changeover from "tame" Gnu-level monsters to "aggressive" Gnu-level monsters. I don't know if the reticence is because they want to preserve continuity or if tinkering in that way just isn't very easy.
I noticed later that the monster was invisible when it told me I was at one, but that still doesn't account to going exactly where the manitee should be and nothing being there... hmm.-Stien
This is my understanding of how it works: You could imagine the game checking every square every hour. Open spaces would check to see if a monster should be created, and monsters would be checked if they should die (monsters die after two weeks). If this happened, the Tarot deck would always be perfect, but the game would essentially shut down every hour while the game checked every square. Instead, whenever a player moves, the nearby open squares are checked to see if a monster should be created and nearby monsters are checked to see if they should die. But the tarot deck doesn't know that's going to happen, it tells you to go find a monster, but as soon as you get close, the monster dies. Or you can have the opposite problem, it tells you the nearest monster is 10 squares away, but you could move a couple squares and have one spawn right next to you. Dragon's idea is to have the monster's death clock reset when it's found by the tarot deck. hendsch 20:48, 18 December 2006 (GMT)

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I know about how monster spawning works, but this is the reverse happening (tarot deck telling me something is there when it's not):

You spread the cards...
The cards indicate that the nearest one is about 5 squares away to the East South East.
You go East. 
You go East. 
You go East.
You go East.
You go South.

hmm, should be around here somewhere...

You go South.
You go East.
You go North.
You go South.
You go South.

Well, I can't find it. I'm now 5 squares east and 3 south of where I started. Where is it?

You spread the cards...
The cards indicate that the nearest one is about 15 squares away to the South East.

I am very confident that someone else didn't come along and kill it (this was in the Thick Jungle, and I had to cut my way through). Do monsters only die of old age when someone walks by? --Dragon 05:11, 24 October 2006 (BST)

Correct, they do. Darksatanic 11:02, 24 October 2006 (BST)
Mumble. So is this bug in the "probably won't be fixed" category? --Dragon 17:16, 24 October 2006 (BST)
'fraid not. It's going to be a bit heavyweight to fix even if we tried. Darksatanic 22:50, 24 October 2006 (BST)
Hmm. I certainly don't expect you to rewrite the monster-spawning code (that would probably increase server load a bunch, not to mention the development effort), but I thought of a workaround that doesn't change the spawning/dying patterns. Whenever someone locates a monster with the Tarot Deck, do a check to see if that specific monster is dead/dying, and if so set it to die 6 hours from now instead. Would this be feasible, or does the code just Not Work That Way? --Dragon 07:01, 25 October 2006 (BST)
This is a serious problem if you are hunting in an area that has not seen traffic in a while. If you get deep into the jungles of Oz, for example, the Tarot is just about worthless. Droll 15:21, 30 October 2006 (GMT)

Stall Permit (11 items)

I just opened Forest Treasures outside of windy city, and when I created it, i didn't have the option to manage it. it just said Prop. [devine]. So I moved one square east, and then back and then could manage the stall. The bug tho, is that I still have my original stall permit... SO technically when I break down this stall I'll get another one back right? donkey64.59.47.227 21:00, 30 November 2006 (GMT)

Free party and map

Using a map near a free party will lead to an oversized cell due to the css including a padding. It would be nice to have another class without the padding--Solune 15:58, 17 November 2006 (GMT)

Similarly, the Pentacle creates an oversized cell. Thanks for fixing the Party, though. PotatoEngineer 02:44, 30 April 2007 (BST)

One person can board several vessels

Today (at the party) I saw one person on 2 Air Ships and a Magic Carpet... AT THE SAME TIME. So yeah, his name appeare 3 times (once in every vessel square). --Bubba_the_Shy 19:22, 5 November 2006 (GMT)

I was on a couple of transports at the same time (that is 2 tanks, 2 airships at least). One of the airship moved up on square then down again and It didn't make me leave the transports. Later on I was very far away from those transports and got the message

You leave the transport.

--Solune 23:31, 8 November 2006 (GMT)


Hydras start off with 10000 hp. However, they gain another 10000 hp for each head that is chopped off, making them undefeatable without a glass sword or a golden gun. I'm fairly certain this isn't how they used to be. Gonzometro 19:00, 29 October 2006 (GMT)

Why not? How familiar are you with the hydra of greek legend? macksting 07:10, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
Hydras in Cities used to behave differently. I'm not sure the new behavior is a bug, though... --Dragon 07:26, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
Before, hydras used have one attack per head which equated to about 150+ damage toward the end of its life. They also returned 1000*n gold. Unless this too has changed, I can see no reason to waste a glass sword on a one-headed hydra or 20000*n gold with a golden gun on an n-headed hydra only to get 1000*n gold back. . . .unless they drop something really cool now, but I don't want to be the one who tests that either.Gonzometro 16:15, 2 November 2006 (GMT)


At a few minutes (~5, maybe more) before the castle moves, the new location disappears from the "It will be at:" list. Droll 21:05, 6 October 2006 (BST)

I'd guess your clock's fast. The server location and the Astrolabe list are one and the same array in the code, so they can't be out of sync. The only time they could get out of sync is during the hourly script run, but that takes no longer than a minute to run. Darksatanic 09:32, 7 October 2006 (BST)
Here's what happened:
  • At a few hours before the castle moves, my Astrolabe says: At Location A, In Location B in 2 hours, In location C in 10 hours. (numbers are approximate)
  • I went one square away from location B. A few minutes before the hour (using my Time and Space ability) the castle is not yet visible and my Astrolabe says: At Location A, In location C in 8 hours.
  • A few minutes later, the castle appears.

Droll 16:10, 11 October 2006 (BST)

OK, this sounds like it needs some deep investigation. I really can't see why (or even how) it might be doing that. Like I said, there's only one list, and it's used to generate both the Astrolabe info and the castle location. Darksatanic 20:50, 11 October 2006 (BST)

Onyx darkness

While the monster names are hidden, the popping help message still reveals it. ex:

attacking the glow worm will cost 1 AP

--Solune 09:58, 22 September 2006 (BST)

Can't board boats at Brighthelm pier

I'm standing at the end of the pier in Brighthelm, the one opposite Holiday Island. Both my small boat and survey vessey have stayed in their bottles, instead of being taken out automatically. Therefore I can't board them to cross the ocean to Holiday Island. I'm sure I have taken this same route to Holiday Island before. -- LittleHamster 23:02, 21 August 2006 (BST)

I came back from Holiday Island via the exact same route a couple of hours ago. Is there someone else standing on the end of the pier with you? If so, perhaps they're already on board a boat (and therefore preventing you from boarding your own). Syagrius 23:12, 21 August 2006 (BST)
I know the people standing at the end of the pier. None of us can board our boats. Luckily we have an air ship and we used it to get into the ocean instead. Once in the water, I boarded my survey vessel and found that I can land on and get off the pier with the survey vessel. So the bug only prevents us from boarding in the first place. (That is, the boats stay stubbornly inside the bottles, when they should have been taken out). -- LittleHamster 07:33, 22 August 2006 (BST)

Master Thief Wait Time

When you feed the Master Thief now he tells you he wants to wait 22 hours, but it's been about 24 and he still says "Maybe in 0 hours or so." The first few times I thought I might have gotten the time wrong, but the message is odd in any case. JohnnyRogers 18:32, 18 March 2006 (GMT)

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