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===This just in:===
"Sorry I can’t chat, but this is hopefully just a brief intermission rather than the end. We do plan to get the game back." --Lord Andrew
[[User:Amishrobots|AmishRobots]] 07:30, 22 October 2021 (BST)
===Game is Down Again?===
===Game is Down Again?===

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Add more recent events to the TOP of the page with three "equal" signs on either side of the title to separate threads. When discussion on an item becomes lengthy, it will get its own page. Any events where the last post is older than 1 month should be moved to Old events.

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This just in:

"Sorry I can’t chat, but this is hopefully just a brief intermission rather than the end. We do plan to get the game back." --Lord Andrew

AmishRobots 07:30, 22 October 2021 (BST)

Game is Down Again?

Won't load for me, oh no! AmishRobots 22:28, 18 October 2021 (BST)

from what I've been told, the game was causing issues of some sort with the network where it resides. Apparently there are also a lot of files and such (other than the game) that need to be moved for work related reasons, so the game itself is not a high priority. The game and this wiki are (were) running on some very old computers. Seems as though this wiki will likely disappear soon as well. I am badly paraphrasing what I was told, if you want proper information, you'll need to ask Elsewhere or AndyLandy, but I wouldn't bother them too much, as they seem to be quite busy right now with work related tasks. Elsewhere seems to be under the impression that I am the only one even playing Cities anymore, though I am quite sure there are at least a dozen or so active players, at least one of whom kept hijacking the Golden Condor from me. For anyone who sees this message, you can find me on Facebook (unless that goes down too!) Stephen Michael French AmishRobots 06:23, 22 October 2021 (BST)

New Bars and Shrines

There is a new bar in Windy city, the Shooting Star at 1E 5N. Also a new bar close to Fire City, The Black Phoenix, at 9E 96N. Also a new Shrine near Water city, the Sun Trap Shrine at 82E 100N. Also there is a cat in the 'King's Castle (at 13E 13N) that you can interact with.

Hmm, okay, I went to the Sun Trap Shrine. Doesn't seem to be much I can do here yet. Maybe it depends on the time of day? Also, the new bars (at least the one in Windy City that I visited, seem so far to be just ordinary bars. Shooting Star, Black Phoenix, Sun Trap. I have to think these are related to each other in some way. I assume there is some meaning, or connection inherent in the names. I guess I'll go try and play with the kitty now. AmishRobots 02:23, 18 May 2020 (BST)
I don't see a cat. AmishRobots 02:27, 18 May 2020 (BST)
The cat only seems to be there at certain times. --TerrorRemedy 09:53, 1 June 2020 (BST)

Yet Another Stupid Census

Just curious, how many of y'all are here right now? old players? New players? Anyone have an actual new wiki account?

I'm here. Not at all new. --BlaisedeC 02:52, 18 May 2020 (BST)
Aye, present. --TerrorRemedy 08:57, 18 May 2020 (BST)
I'm not exactly active, but I'm still taking a peek over here every now and then. Kaos Dragon 20:36, 19 May 2020 (BST)
I've been actively playing between every day to every three days for the past couple of months, I just recovered my wiki password for this comment. I'm Ade in game, although Tho, Aeo and Cal are my alts that I've been slowly working on. --Ade 13:58, 21 May 2020 (BST)

There's a new virus around

Found on the Brighthelm road: a monster named virus wearing a crown. It has 36 HP. --BlaisedeC 19:58, 10 May 2020 (BST)

Attacked it with a Furious Bow. This was the result:
You attack the Virus.
You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
You attack the Virus.
You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
You attack the Virus.
You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
You attack the Virus.
You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
You attack the Virus.
You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
You attack the Virus.
You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
You attack the Virus.
You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
You attack the Virus.
You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
You attack the Virus.
You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
You attack the Virus.
You cause 0 points of damage, and receive 0 experience.
You lose a Quarrel.
The Virus causes 17526 points of damage.

It hits like a freight train. It took 1/3 of my hitpoints. Didn't take any damage from Furious bow. --TerrorRemedy 21:27, 10 May 2020 (BST)

How many points does your Furious Bow normally do? I'm wondering if there's a relation between the amount of damage your attack(s) would have done and the amount of damage it does in return... --BlaisedeC 23:48, 10 May 2020 (BST)

I found a new item for sale in Chicago (at Sven Ghoulies): An Air Face Mask for 10000 GP. It turns viruses friendly when equipped. --BlaisedeC 00:22, 11 May 2020 (BST)

And an Earth Face Mask in Emerald City (at Supplies). Same price, --BlaisedeC 00:50, 11 May 2020 (BST)
They wear out quickly, so only wear them to move pasr viruses. --BlaisedeC 01:09, 11 May 2020 (BST)

So after attacking a virus twice, BruceStark is poisoned such that Jude's treatment is ineffective. Only 1HP/hr so far... --BlaisedeC 05:54, 11 May 2020 (BST)

After some time the HP loss went away; I didn't notice how long. Poison Hand does cause "winced" sometimes, so the last unintentional attack on a virus did not get him hit back. --BlaisedeC 22:19, 13 May 2020 (BST)

A well placed Crackle Spell (and I suppose a Pop! Spell too) can scare the virus away. --TerrorRemedy 06:17, 13 May 2020 (BST)

A Huge Firecracker does too. --BlaisedeC 22:20, 13 May 2020 (BST)

Has anyone else noticed that the virus seems to stick to pavement terrain, or am I just wrong? Anyone spotted it in forest/plains/etc? Also; has anyone been actually killed by this thing? What is the actual death rate from this bug? AmishRobots 04:19, 15 May 2020 (BST)

Apparently I was wrong. just spotted one between a wilderness, and a hills. They seem more common on roads and such though. Perhaps they spawn where players have congregated? or something? AmishRobots 02:30, 16 May 2020 (BST)
I am starting to think maybe it just deals damage based on how many HP you have. AmishRobots 07:11, 16 May 2020 (BST)

A Whole New World..

[facebook|] [A Whole New World|]

New Land Merchantland discovered

This was something I was playing with a year or so back. Since the cat's out of the bag, you might as well have access to it. There's a new continent, accessible from the Thieves Forest. There's not a lot there though. Never had the time to do anything more with it. Maybe I'll add some more stuff, but don't hold your breath. AndyLandy 22:29, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

New Land has been discovered. I'm naming it 'Merchantland'.

Discovered so far

  • Chicago at 275W 35S DSSGCM(Air City)
  • Lake Superior - Just north of Chicago
  • Lake Inferior - Near Chicago
  • Lake Eerie - Just NE of Chicago
  • Washing Town at 235W 75S DSSGCM (Sewer)
  • Miami at 235W 125S DSSGCM (Earth)
  • Houston at 275W 165S DSSGCM (Neutral)
  • Pheonix at 325W 165S DSSGCM (Fire)
  • Los Angeles at 365W 125S DSSGCM (Pure? Not confirmed)
  • San Francisco at 365W 75S DSSGCM (Water)
  • Anaconda at 325W 35S DSSGCM (Goth)

Flora and fauna so far resembles the 'Kingdom.

There is also a South Merchantland...

Not yet discovered so far

Donald J Trump

--Merchant 18 Oct 2019 (BST)

Got any hints on how to get over there? I can see an ocean with a Big Map west of the Thieves Forest, but no apparent way to reach it. I even checked the western edge all the way from the top of the Far North to the Coral Reef. Kaos Dragon 19:40, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
just a thought: if the world wraps north to south, I should think maybe it wraps horizontally as well? Perhaps there is some way along the Eastern Edge ? looks like Merchant isn't gonna tell without charging, no big surprise there! AmishRobots 21:54, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
Check the western edge of the Thieves Forest.--Merchant 17:08, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

But, "Merchantland"?? can you really just name a place whatever you want, because you "discovered" it? I'm sure the natives must have their own name for it.. based on the names you mention above, I would assume it is properly called something like "Trumpylvania", or "Columbustan" or "Vespucci-land"? or possibly just "Wal-mart", or McDonaldTrump? Or maybe they just call it "Get off my lawn!!"

Trumpsylvania? Lol - I support that. Merchant
You would! AmishRobots 11:28, 12 October 2021 (BST)

There is a range of Mysterious Mountains running east from 350W 50S to 250W 50S, south from 350W 50S to 350W 149S, east from 350W 149S to 250W 149S, and south from 250W 50 S to 250W 149S. No way past them at this time. --BlaisedeC 19:58, 22 May 2020 (BST)

Island bridge network

As part of my court mandated community service I have restored the island bridge network. Now onto Wizard Island! --Fearganainm 13:20, 25 May 2019 (BST)

Professional Healing Available in Windy City

The Honorable Duke Judge Judy M.D. is currently hanging out at the Shrine of Air, offering her newly acquired services as a professional doctor. Feel free to visit for a check up, walk-ins acccepted!

Who is this Mysterious Figure From the Past?

And why is he so keen on Weatabix? Image:MysteriousFigureFromThePast.png

Just noticed this fellow sitting on Lord Andrew's dragon, as you can see here. Clicking on him turned up a YouTube video of a strange old advertisement. Not sure what's going on here... AmishRobots 16:51, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

That had me so confused for a minute before I remembered it was a pet dragon. Kaos Dragon 20:20, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


Oh, in case you somehow missed it, there is a pentacle in the same location where the previous party was..

Halloween Party?

I was wondering if there would be much appetite for a Halloween Party. Until recently, my various alts were dormant (becoming so before party supplies got quite so amazingly scarce) so between them, I believe I can put together most of the requirements for a party (I suspect I’ll still be a couple of records down though). I also have spare amps/speakers etc if Amishrobots would like to hold his own party (which I believe he was missing when he tried back in May).

What do people think? Ngford 12:03, 16 September 2018 (BST)

I think this world NEEdS a PARtY, regardless who throws it! AmishRobots 08:02, 17 September 2018 (BST)
What are you still missing from your rig? I'll see if I can top you up first and then perhaps we could have another party a month or so later (Xmas?) Ngford 13:57, 18 September 2018 (BST)

Still looking for those speakers... AmishRobots 08:44, 25 October 2018 (BST)

Oh, btw, The Party is happening now.. AmishRobots 10:34, 6 November 2018 (UTC)


So I decided to try to find out what the fashion is this week. Being somewhat rusty in the ways of the wiki, I copied the fashion table to my user page Ngford. Now either I have been somewhat unlucky (tried over 58/64 fashion possibilities so far), have cocked-up somewhere along the line (fairly likely) or perhaps the fashion is broken at the moment.

Does anyone know if it is definitely working? Has anyone had any fashion statements recently at all? From the main page it looks like March 2018 people were getting fashion points.

Sometimes it's just the absolute last one you check. It's happened before. Kaos Dragon 09:45, 11 September 2018 (BST)
True, just testing the last two now. Ngford (PS How do I get a date stamp on these posts?)
Now tested all 64, so either messed it up somewhere along the way or something isn’t working. Ngford 21:51, 11 September 2018 (BST)
My guess is at some point you checked a bit too early and changed fashion before the hour. Also 4 tildes. Kaos Dragon 20:06, 12 September 2018 (BST)
Probably, annoying though - I thought that I'd been careful. Might give it one more go next week - may even throw caution to the wind and edit the 'proper' table! Also did anyone ever get to the bottom of the fact that there are supposedly 72 fashions not 64? Ngford 13:20, 13 September 2018 (BST)

My Birthday Party May 23rd

I'm working on putting a Rig together with help from guild-mate fearganainm, for a Party on my birthday. Between us we have: 4 slip mats, 8 records, and 1 deck. Any donations to this cause would be greatly appreciated! We still need: 2 amps, 4 speakers, 2 records, and 1 more deck. I currently have AmishTestBot standing by at The New Trading Post in Windy City to collect any donations you wish to offer for this cause, or you may palantir Amishrobots to make other arrangements, or suggestions. I have not decided on an exact location for this party yet, but given current trends, and also being the birthplace of AmishRobots after all, I figure it will most likely be near Windy City. AmishRobots 21:40, 3 May 2018 (BST)

update: we now have all the records we need. Still need: speakers, amps, and a deck.any donations, or even just advice on how/where to acquire these items, will be greatly appreciated! thnx! AmishRobots 10:43, 6 May 2018 (BST)
looks like this will likely be postponed. bummer. 05:25, 23 May 2018 (BST)

Mystery Corpse

I found a corpse of YoYoMA, cannot seem to palantir anyone of that name. wth? AmishRobots 07:20, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

2018 Census

Taking a new Census for 2018.

Bridge to Bleak Island

Some silly fool built a bridge from Carson Beckett memorial beach to Bleak Island.

Neutral Navigation

Illusory Navigation in Neutral Space

Helpful Illusive monsters now point the way to important destinations in Neutral Space. Gaps in the illusive pathways may be signs of invisible threats, or perhaps just laziness. Feel free to fill in such gaps. Please do not kill the dream! If necessary, please align any such pointers as necessary, or choose a path parallel to reach your chosen destination! Do your part to dem-ystify the Neutral Space! AmishRobots 13:07, 27 August 2017 (BST)

All illsuions curently Fire-aligned.

Who Is Playing?

I'm curious who is still out there. Even more curious if there's any newbies! Drop your sig (four tildas, if you're new to the wiki) and say "hi". I see signs, here and there, that there may be survivors in the realm, would love to make contact! AmishRobots 08:58, 25 August 2017 (BST)

I just logged in again .. what is 10 years give or take? Rembrandt 20:42, 29 September 2017 (BST)

I just popped in after about 408 weeks. Well thats the age of my horse now. Chronos 22:28, 7 August 2018 (BST)

Back to an empty World

So Cities is back, but most of the citicens seem to have forgotten their world. It is desolate and empty, just a few tenacious souls try to bring back life to the empty public halls and deserted town centers. I list here which places show some semblance of life. I hope others will add more.

The Bridge between Holiday Island and Brighthelm is back
There is a shop in Water city, selling weapons and sets of water wings(at97E94N)
There are similar shops at windy city and at the Kingdom Airport
There is a shop on the food court of the mall, selling aligned produce and some fish, it will have produce and fish of all main alignments in due time (2 steps right of the upper left corner lift); you can get there using a mall talisman or via the entrances in any city
the most venerable Parking God keeps researching and updating fashion

I poked my head in and was pleased to see the place back. Hello void! Hbookbinder 06:11, 21 June 2017 (BST)

Some voice in my head called me back just now, quite surprised to discover it was not just a dream. Fellow Citicens, you are not alone; I am here, and I wish to help rebuild! After the apocalypse, there shall remain cockroaches, and amishrobots.

Let's make Cities Great Again!

--AmishRobots 12:29, 31 July 2017 (BST)

AP : 163812/606 ... Nice .. --Rembrandt 15:04, 28 September 2017 (EST)

Down For So Long

Has it really been seven years since I've played? I check back every now and then, once a year or so, to see if the game will load, but it never does for me. Even the wiki is glacial. I still have hope that someday the server will be fixed, but in the meantime I'll keep stopping by and crossing my fingers. --JohnnyRogers 14:58, 21 May 2015 (BST)

I think you may have just been unlucky this time; it was working for me just eight days ago. The next time you check, I would recommend also checking if the page at <> comes up. If it does, that means the main things are working fine and your problem is specific to you; such problems have occurred to many people, and several possible solutions have been found, but they do not always work; one method is getting summoned, and another can be found farther forward on this page. --Plopfill 12:14, 23 May 2015 (BST)
I can't get it to work at all.. --AmishRobots 08:04, 4 December 2016 (UTC)


Sgt. Duke Blueflame MD has unleashed Evil Ooze in the SE corner of Earth City (one city street and the rest outside the city) for anyone who wants to slay them. He can also benefit from someone on the Cure Poison quest - he is at three Xs. --BlaisedeC 18:14, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

None of my characters can log in

I have five characters (I originally created four, before I learned that alignments can change, and purchased Lalumi in a charity auction). None of them can log in currently (connection timeout). Of them, I know blaisedec is wearing a hat and cannot be summoned. He's also on Wizard's Retreat despite not being a wizard and cannot use any transport items (boat, talisman, etc.). I'm reasonably sure BlueFlame is not wearing a hat; Alan Jordan, BruceStark, and Lalumi I just don't remember. --BlaisedeC 04:42, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

OK, blaisedec and BruceStark have been fixed. Thanks! (Including that blaisedec can once again talisman.) Lalumi, BlueFlame, and Alan Jordan are still timing out. --BlaisedeC 01:53, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Now BlueFlame works again but BruceStark doesn't. So Lalumi, Alan Jordan, and BruceStark don't work. --06:09, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
When someone else contacted me with a similar problem some time ago, I came up with a possible solution by combining some pieces of information I had found on this wiki, and it may also work for you, though I am not sure. Here it is: Use the URL[%%  FILL THIS IN  %%]&password=[%%  FILL THIS IN  %%]&item=WaterTalisman
to select a water talisman, then use the URL[%%  FILL THIS IN  %%]&password=[%%  FILL THIS IN  %%]&act_item_use=1
to break it. --Plopfill 15:33, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Odd. Worked for Lalumi but not for either BruceStark or Alan Jordan. --BlaisedeC 03:17, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Places that break the game

Late last week, the game stopped responding for me. I would attempt to refresh the game's URL and the connection would time out. This happened every time I tried, for 3 days straight. I hopped on IRC, and AndyLandy summoned me to 0E 0N DSSGCM, which allowed me to login and play again. He said there were still problems in the pet-feeding code. That's wizards for ya.

Today, I was trying to examine the state of the bridge network, and therefore I was trying to cross Holiday Island. A few tiles south of the bridge from Brighthelm, I ran into the problem again -- the game would not respond to requests.

I logged in with an alternate account who happens to have a summon stone, walked him to a trading post, and then summoned my main account (who, fortunately, was not wearing a hat). This fixed the problem for me. I was able to connect with the main account, and I gave 2 summon stones to the alt.

So, the lessons here are:

  • Don't wear a hat.
  • Don't try to cross Holiday Island, especially if you're wearing a hat, double especially if you're one of the pet-bearing accounts that ran into the "huge negative AP" issues last year.
  • Make sure your alt(s) have summon stones.

^^^ --Greycat 01:05, 18 July 2013 (BST)

D'oh! I was crossing Holiday Island the other day, sporting a rather fetching hat. Now all I get is a timeout and no data received. Looks like I may be victim to this bug...? Help! Chad 20:19, 26 July 2013 (BST)
Catching one of the wizards (game admins) on the IRC channel is probably your best bet. --Greycat 00:13, 27 July 2013 (BST)
The IRC won't load either. I suppose the game has died a horrible death once again... And - if I can't get logged in and/or get the game to load, how can I get rid of my hat right now? Poopie. --Brandy 2:08. 6 August 2013 (PST)

I noticed that inside Darth Maul, every one move takes me TWO spaces (so no seeing the directory). Then, after 2 or 3 moves, if I haven't gotten on the elevator, I freeze up, get no response from the server, and of course, when I reload, I get "connecting, connecting, fail". So the Maul also needs a little help. That, or you will cure my shopping addiction! --Brandy 1:50 15 August 2013 (PST)

Although I admit to no real knowledge of the programming involved with this game, it is my belief that Holiday Island is a wretched curse on the fair realm of cities. A blight on the landscape. It is a den of sloth, and, well, just sloth, really. It is my opinion that the unreasonable numbers generated there by many characters with AP levels beyond massive, and well into the insane, are somehow "clogging the tubes", asking the server to perform huge calculations, or well, I don't really have but the foggiest notion how these things work. In any case, I opine that Holiday Isle needs to be destroyed, nuked, whatever, and replaced by a decent community of simple, hard-working amish folk. And perhaps it should be also be renamed "Cambodia" and populated with dead kennedys. Um, but seriously, Holiday Isle was fun for about a week, until everybody started parking there, and well, I just feel that it changed the whole game dynamic for the worse. I think I'd be happy if you just kicked everybody off the island, capped everybody's AP at 1 million, max, and paved over the whole island, to put up a parking lot. Either way, even if it doesn't help fix the game at all, I think I'd still be happy to see the end of holiday isle. Anyone else agree? AmishRobots 10:04, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Never duel with a unicorn

Oooh, yay! Someone finally attacked me while I have my glass sword in hand! Oh, err, what's this?

Duke Unicorn MD attacks you using Pure Sword.
They miss.
You attack Duke Unicorn MD.
You cause 3000 points of damage, and receive 30000 experience.
You lose a Glass Sword.
Your glass sword shatters!
Duke Unicorn MD attacks you using Pure Sword.
They cause 64 points of damage.
You attack Duke Unicorn MD.
You cause 3000 points of damage, and receive 30000 experience.
You lose a Glass Sword.
Your glass sword shatters!
Duke Unicorn MD attacks you using Pure Sword.
They cause 64 points of damage.
You attack Duke Unicorn MD.
You cause 3000 points of damage, and receive 30000 experience.
You lose a Glass Sword.
Your glass sword shatters!
Duke Unicorn MD attacks you using Pure Sword.
They cause 59 points of damage.
You been have defeated in honourable combat. You may re-enlist as a duelist as soon as you feel ready.
Duke Unicorn MD has performed healing on you.
Duke Unicorn MD has performed healing on you.
Duke Unicorn MD has performed healing on you.
Duke Unicorn MD has performed healing on you.
Duke Unicorn MD has performed healing on you.
Duke Unicorn MD pushes you!
You are taken East.
Duke Unicorn MD begs you to come south to the trading post.
Duke Unicorn MD has a wealth of gifts for your trouble.
You gain 5 Brighthelm Rocks.
Duke Unicorn MD gives you 5 Brighthelm Rocks.
You gain a Kings Crest Talisman.
Duke Unicorn MD gives you a Kings Crest Talisman.
You gain a Pure Sword.
Duke Unicorn MD gives you a Pure Sword.
You gain a Pouch of Magic Herb.
Duke Unicorn MD gives you a Pouch of Magic Herb.
You gain 2 Northern Rocks.
Duke Unicorn MD gives you 2 Northern Rocks.
You gain a Pure Wand.
Duke Unicorn MD gives you a Pure Wand.
You gain a Pure Knife.
Duke Unicorn MD gives you a Pure Knife.
You gain a Strange Powder.
Duke Unicorn MD gives you a Strange Powder.
You gain 10000 Gold Pieces.
Duke Unicorn MD gives you 10000 Gold Pieces.
Duke Unicorn MD feels like you are taking forever to come down, so he drops the gifts at your feet and gallops away.
Now using Fists.


You gain 3 Glass Swords.
Unicorn gives you 3 Glass Swords.
Unicorn assures you that dueling with a unicorn is usually beneficial.
Unicorn urges you to PAYG him for anything else.
Unicorn is here to spread love, glory and quest items to citizens everywhere.

Which is very cool. Now if only I could actually win a duel....

AP Regen Problem?

I'm having a little problem with my AP regen. Due to my fashion, the page shows "Your action points regenerate every 7.5 minutes. Your next action point will regenerate in 36 min 5 sec". When I refreshed the page, the timer went to 37 minutes! Soooo... wow. --Brandy 15 June 2013, UTC unknown (5:51pm PST)

Something similar seems to have happened to me for the last two days; I have not been gaining any action points over time, and the "next AP" indicator in the bar at the bottom displays 1800+ minutes briefly after loading before apparently getting reduced modulo 60 minutes and counting down normally from there on. --Plopfill 16:28, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Talisman/Travel Woes

One of my characters (BlaisedeC) cannot talisman anywhere. Any transport except foot travel or standing stones fails (except the first space off land on a boat). The new location appears without the character showing up, and on the next action the view pops back to where the character was and the character gets any used item back. I seem to recall seeing at least one other mention of this problem somewhere on the wiki, but cannot find it again, so at least two characters seem to be affected. It is really frustrating not being able to get back to any islands or Oz... --BlaisedeC 02:44, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

same with at least one of my chars. Walking sucks! AmishRobots 10:21, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

I noticed the same thing, except breaking a TALISMAN works, but breaking a stone or any other "thing" (aligned wand, knife, what-have-you) doesn't work. It shows that I made it where I wanted to be, but when I take a step, I'm back where I started (and the thing I broke is back in my inventory, like it never happened). Syagrius 14:33, 4 May 2013 (BST)

Gas Bill

I see that various people reported errors with broken images for their Gas Bills. I'm in the same boat (broken image). Was this ever fixed, or is it a case of this quest being a dead end now? -Stelio 18:32, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Lalumi is now in the same boat as well. --BlaisedeC 14:21, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Various problems

I have three alts, two of whom (Blue Flame and BruceStark) can't log in (server times out) and the third (BlaisedeC) can't talisman anywhere (it appears to work, but when he takes a step he's back where he was). BlaisedeC is unsummonable, but could someone summon Blue Flame and BruceStark? That at least used to fix the login problem. Thanks! --BlaisedeC 05:33, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

I've given it a go, but none of your three characters are summonable it appears. :-( -Stelio 00:06, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Update: I can see BruceStark on the road at 88E 4N. He's wearing a Wooly Hat which explains why he couldn't be summoned. That square and the one to the south (currently housing the Golden Condor) are suffering a bug. Anyone moving into those squares will be stuck with a server time-out in my experience. The only way I got Calm Breeze through was to resubmit the web page (forcing another move West to the next square at 87E 4N). To get off the squares may theoretically be possible using a URL hack (similar to the ?act_shout=1&say=I%27m+gullible hack); if anyone knows the appropriate arguments, that would be helpful! (My main character is stuck there too, in the Golden Condor, also wearing a hat). -Stelio 21:05, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Found the incantation.  ?act_move_x=1 where x is the direction you want (n, e, s, w). --BlaisedeC 02:21, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Update: Unfortunately, it doesn't work for BruceStark. --BlaisedeC 03:35, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes, it does nothing for me either (but thanks for digging out the URL). :-( I've tried many times for a couple of days now and have given up hope. My current plan: wait a week and see if I turn up safely in Limbo... -Stelio 15:38, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Update: BlaisedeC cannot Talisman, and cannot use Mistletoe (since it's the first Christmas season that both the game has been available and I've been trying to play since the Mistletoe was given out...), but can use Teleports. Both talismans and mistletoe perform identically - the new terrain appears but BlaisedeC isn't visible, and as soon as he acts he reappears in the old location modulo his action (so if he tried to move west in the new location he's moved one space west from the old location). --BlaisedeC 05:32, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Another update: Apparently boat travel is like talisman travel except for the initial step off the coast. BlaisedeC is now stuck one step toward Brighthelm. --BlaisedeC 03:23, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Further update: Lalumi now can't log in as well, stuck down in the Mines. --BlaisedeC 05:35, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Lalumi has been rescued. Thanks, Dragon! --BlaisedeC 19:35, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Ah well, no joy for me. After waiting for more than two weeks, I'm still not able to connect to the game. Dropping out to Limbo didn't work. :-( Always, "The connection was reset" for me. I'll wait and try again some other day. (Although on the plus side I should at least be visible in Limbo since I'm wearing a hat...) -Stelio 11:55, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Waiting worked. A month later, and I am indeed in Limbo. -Stelio 12:42, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

I've got a similar problem. I'd just talismaned to the Mall to start gathering ingredients for the Mixology quest when I started getting Connection Reset failures. I was probably a bit tipsy still from battling the Boozehound, if that makes any difference. parking_god 17:57, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Another teensy problem - can't see the Monster League Tables, and I'm not getting AP from killing the Fenris Wolf on the first of this month. I was able to see the "Me" page, though, and it does show that I have killed Mr. Fenris. -Brandy 04:55, 3 September 2013

FINALLY found the monastry that can read my book, and began training. Dante sighs, "Return only when you have defeated a Desert Fox with your bare hands." So I head off to the desert, and killed a desert fox with my fists until "I feel bad", then return to the monastry to train again, only to be told that I need to kill a desert fox with my bare hands! Wasted a talisman, that did! Brandy 2:46, 27 September, 2013 (UTC)


I mean I'm sure I'm not the only one who has noticed by now... hello? anyone out there?

I noticed. I think we're all too accustomed to it now :( Ant 09:26, 9 October 2012 (BST)

sorrow, I guess it's lost to the Land of the Fireflies. Anyone hang out in chat still? [User:Amishrobots|AmishRobots]] 18:02, 24 October 2012 (BST) Not much here, but at least its nice to look at the login screen: [|*/ AmishRobots 18:13, 24 October 2012 (BST)

It appears to be back at the moment! Scary Mike 15:27, 15 November 2012 (EST)

Wtf is happening to my AP?

I distinctly remember logging out of my jos a wapner account with a few AP left, but I log in today and I'm at -96??? the last thing I appear to have done was go east one square! wtf???

okay srsly, WTF??? i am at -647 AP after doing what? nothing? the last "action" i took was "now using air wand" then my flying horsie imbibed some nutrients from the air, and poof! 97 hours till positive AP! am i doing something wrong here? is my horsie draining my AP? what the heck?!
Yeah, seems it's something to do with my pets imbibing... I'm currently at -1031 AP :( Ant 08:19, 25 April 2012 (BST)
See here. It's not just pets imbibing; it seems to be a general issue. --Dragon 18:01, 28 April 2012 (BST)
Oh, look, the game is back! So my pets have been eating the air... OK... except this one's at -17 fullness, so I'll feed it... whoops, now I have -566 AP. Well, that was fun. --Greycat 20:39, 12 May 2012 (BST)

Fashion broken?

Is Fashion still working? Kinky-Pimp seemed to stop paying off for me about halfway through the week... parking_god 01:32, 7 April 2012 (BST)

I have posted this to Cities:Bugs. Not just fashion -- some characters experience loss of hat effects; others (beneficially) loss of poison effects, but it seems to be inconsistent -- I had two characters wearing the same fashion; one got the fashion bonus and the other didn't. BlaisedeC 23:01, 8 April 2012 (BST)


also, bring back Old Spice "soap on a rope" too!!! some dimes i get drunk and point postless crap

Welcome Back Party

AndyLandy has a rig. It cost him much blood, sweat and tears to get it, then he stopped playing. Now seems like the single most appropriate time for it to get deployed. Open to suggestions for location. Will be starting early this coming week! AndyLandy 08:01, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

I have to suggest Earth City, as its been the site of so many previous parties due to convenient location. OR somewhere round the King's Palace.
I second Earth City. --JAD 18:22, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
I would love to see a party in the Schism. If anyone is willing to try that it would be aewsome. If it goes badly though, i reserve the right to pretend that i never made such a suggestion.
okay, party?
Party's going. Check your MOTD. S. Mackie 20:25, 2 April 2012 (BST)

Glendale Returns

The very helpful Glendale mapper is back, thanks to some kind efforts from Sam at --Ra 10:45, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that. I haven't played the game for years, so I only know that my mapper is down if someone tells me. If there are problems again, drop me an email at --Sam
Personal maps aren't working btw. --naath 09:41, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

We are back

We are back! But perhaps all is not as it should be although the air's feeling quite fresh. If you notice anything a little odd, post it here... --Ra 19:13, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I noticed the game is back. Does that count as odd? :P Seriously, tho' - many, many thanks to all the GLs who brought the game back to life!!!! Scary Mike 15:55, 17 March 2012 (EST)
Enjoy! Hopefully everything seems stable and somewhat sane (well, as sane as cities ever was), but let us know if anything isn't working as it should be! --Ra 20:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Oh lordy, all my dead pets have been resurrected - including George my dogbot. Now I care again. And have 26,000 AP to burn since I left my character sitting on Holiday Island. It's definitely decision time. Do I start playing again or not? What if it's all pulled out from beneath me again. I don't think I could bear it but...then many new things to see and do.--Caroline 21:29, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Great to see you back - Cities is sticking around for the long term, we've gone to great lengths to make sure it's here to stay and will continue to develop! Plus, your pets need you :-) --Ra 22:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
YAY! Syagrius 22:52, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

You open the basket. It contains neat stuff. You gain 5000 Gold Pieces. You gain a Mug of Coffee (proper). You gain a Bottle of Sparkling Wine. You gain a Kipple. You gain 10 Magic Beans. You gain a Kings Crest Talisman. You gain a Summon Stone. You chuck away the empty basket.

HOLY F%$^$%^ SH$#%#$tt!!! i guess checking up on cities today wasn't so pointless after all! Back on Saint Patrick's Day huh? We in the states here just celebrate by getting by wearing green and getting stupid drunk on guinness or cheap american crap beer with green dye in it; I guess you guys celebrate by re establishing lost kingdoms.
Hurray! I logged in today with -312AP though, which I think qualifies as odd. Yesterday I had over +900AP, and I haven't done anything since. - Isambard 06:37, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Similar here. I logged in, saw monsters had respawned around me, went to hit one of them with a Rusty Sword, and found myself looking at the out of AP screen claiming I had -31 AP. Ravensdance 23:08, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
There have been a few oddities. I came in at only 80% max AP, myself, though I think it's recovering in general at a normal rate. S. Mackie 06:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Now I have -814AP. - Isambard 19:55, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
759 AP down to 215 AP in one swing of a Rusty Sword. Ravensdance 23:24, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Not sure if normal AP regen is working; but other sources of AP don't appear to be working for me - I have a wiz. hat and some monster leagues but no AP from either. --naath 09:43, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm on Holiday Island and AP seems to be regenerating normally for me. I've ventured off the Island to run around the 'Kingdom a bit and haven't noticed any anomalous AP costs. I have a few thousand APs banked so it's going to be a while before I can test non-Holiday AP regeneration ^_^ - Scary Mike 12:31, 23 March 2012 (EST)
Huzzah! Hbookbinder
Am I the only one whose mind is now permanently warped to imagine Balrog of Cave Story shouting that every time he sees it in text? S. Mackie 20:51, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Wow! I'd given up. I just tried it for the hack of it. I'm really glad I didn't have any pets though. Now, if can just remember how to play. And what quest I was on. Dendrast 01:57, 26 March 2012 (BST)
WTF? I had upwards of 2000 AP, went to my inventory to check on my pets, and now I'm hugely in the negative - 337 hours until I can log in, and I'm sure all my pets will be dead by then...cheese 16:01, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

For the people experiencing the disappearing-AP bug:

AndyLandy has changed the topic to: If you mysteriously lose a bunch of AP, record the time it happens and tell AndyLandy

so if you could report as exact a time as possible, as well as the character name, that will help the GLs investigate. (To clarify, I'm not a GL, I'm just passing this on from IRC.) --Dragon 04:09, 7 April 2012 (BST)

Noticing Something A Little Odd

It's hard for me to progress north of Windy City. A diagonal swath appears dominated by schisms. S. Mackie 03:33, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Domentzia noticed the same thing in Earth City. Syagrius 22:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
--AmishRobots 02:00, 19 March 2012 (UTC)Studying the phenomenon: Schism
another "odd" note, one of my chars seems to be gaining pounds of poop, somewhat regularly. I checked his pets, and all i could find was a mayfly egg.
i keep trying to feed my flying horsie, and get: Unknown action: _feed

The end of the end

Optimism, patience and persistence pays off! --Ra 01:42, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Holy F#%$n S$#%T!!! I am so excited by this!!!

I can finally get around to using those sprigs of mistletoe? Or will there be a total reset, where we lose everything? either way i'll be glad to see the Kingdom again. ATM i get a password dialogue box that seems unresponsive to any of my own character names and passwords, so i assume thats for your own use, until the game is ready again?AmishRobots 02:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Woop woop! (as in "almost like woot but cooler to the 2nd degree. A refreshing alternative to the overused gamer slang" and "A very useful sound when it comes to expressing how you feel, a sound of happyness" (c) urbandictionary) Agzu 12:28, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
uh, thats also the mating call of the North American Juggalo AmishRobots 01:10, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
It can also be, in fact, the sound of the police. Scary Mike 13:32, 17 March 2012 (EST)

YAY! I am in favor of this plan!!!!! Scary Mike 13:30, 17 March 2012 (EST)


i couldn't help noticing that the game was still down.. any word yet? AmishRobots 04:54, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Eh. Not much to say, except that the GLs feel they have reason to hold out hope. It apparently works in captivity, but cannot or has not yet been released back into the wild for us. S. Mackie 03:50, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
hmm maybe they could release a version of it on CD? does that sound totally stupid? I mean it does sort of rely on multiple players...
okay really though. I'd be happy at this point even if i had to start all over with a new character from scratch. Sure it would suck to lose all my pretty toys and skills and such, but at least i'd have a game to play. Would it help if i donated $10 usd? cause i'm willing to do that, if beer money helps put cities back on my internet!
I keep checking back, hoping that our world has returned from the abyss. Syagrius 00:47, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
I check pretty often as well. It's been over 6 months, but I still have hope... JAD
I don't check as often as I used to. As Westley said to Inigo, "Get used to disappointment." Dendrast
I just idle (and occasionally chat) on the IRC channel. It's mostly quiet there, though occasionally there's a bit of random discussion. I figure people will mention there if there's any news. --Dragon 02:33, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
I too would donate money to a fund if it would help advance the timetable of recovery! Can any of the GLs chime in on whether or not that would be a useful thing? --Scary Mike 07:50, 26 January 2012 (EST)
Anybody know any games playable in this format? Other than, of course, The Game. S. Mackie 23:54, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Have you tried Urban Dead? - Cameron 09:47, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
I found Urban dead quite borring when you reach the top level and then there's nothing more to achieve. Unless they've changed that? Will the cities ever return? I miss my favourite procrastination-place! (: Agzu 10:53, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
I gave up on Urban Dead pretty quickly. As you say, once maxed out, there's nothing more to do. If you're one of the annoying folks, you kill your own kind just for the he-- of it. Syagrius 03:30, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
I dusted off my old Kingdom of Loathing account the other day, but I still miss cities. Replacing it with Urban Dead is just wrong...funny, but wrong. JAD
hey, do you know what? i still love cities, i want it back, is this gonna be a browncoat thing? srsly, don't do this to us!!! at least say something!AmishRobots
srsly for real tho, give me an address, linked to a paypal account, i will send you money, even if all i accomplish is buying you a few beers. The time i've been able to waste here already is well worth a good six pack of high class beer.AmishRobots
By 'in this format,' I meant on a wiki. S. Mackie 18:40, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
The 'confuse everyone' game? :D Ant 20:55, 4 March 2012 (UTC)



The End?

At the risk of sounding overly dire is this the end for Cities? I hope not :( --Scary Mike 06:43, 13 July 2011 (EST)

From IRC:
<darkthing> It's some kind of GRUB config issue, by the sounds of it.
<darkthing> It's undoubtedly fixable, given enough time and effort,
<darkthing> but the only person with access (AndyLandy) doesn't have the time necessary.
<AndyLandy> I'll see if I can find some time to prod it next week
<AndyLandy> It'd be nice to get it all back
<AndyLandy> Keep your respective digits crossed!
--Dragon 14:47, 18 July 2011 (BST)
Thank goodness! I've spent the last month getting stuff done and have had enough of that, thanks very much. --Scary Mike 08:05, 21 July 2011 (EST)
I wonder if all our pets are going to keep eating while the server is offline. Good to hear that it's fixable, at the very least. Syagrius 05:50, 27 July 2011 (BST)
we can has cities? --Scary Mike 08:01, 17 Aug 2011 (EST)
Any word on the condition of the server? Is it DOA? Syagrius 22:28, 3 October 2011 (BST)
<AndyLandy> We have unleashed our secret weapon
<naath> is it cheese?
<AndyLandy> No, it's a guy called Oli
<naath> ah
<AndyLandy> He's already brought the server back from the dead
<AndyLandy> Now he's battling with the game itself
<naath> win!
* darkling is fully expecting everything to die a couple of times until Oli finds the right script.
It's currently 'king fiddling time--which is a remarkable improvement from before. But the server itself is back.... --Dragon 16:13, 10 October 2011 (BST)
YAY! Syagrius 05:39, 14 October 2011 (BST)
I feel like I should know better than to be optimistic. Not about this particularly, about anything. I grew up something of a pessimist, and I tend to harken back to that readily. I confess, though, that I seem to be optimistic about this. S. Mackie 23:22, 14 October 2011 (BST)
Oli Akbar! I too am optimistic! Mostly because I'm an optimist. But also because everything seems to be much improved, Cities-wise and wiki-wise. I wish to buy this Oli a drink, should he ever find himself in Detroit for whatever reason. --Scary Mike 06:43, 17 Oct 2011 (EST)
It comes... --Ra 01:42, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

The System is Down

Game is down. No word on when it will be back up. --Dragon 14:32, 14 June 2011 (BST)

Well, bother. Has anyone heard from or spoken to or heard from the King or any of the Great Lords? --Scary Mike 18:27, 15 June 2011 (MST)
From one of the GLs on IRC:
The machine's not responding, so it's broken below the levels I've got access to. :(
which means that it might need someone to physically poke at it (probably the 'King or GL Andrew). --Dragon 14:53, 17 June 2011 (BST)
Yaaaargh! Is there any news on the state of the Kingdom? I'm perilously close to getting stuff done in real life. Help! --Scary Mike 07:36, 24 June 2011 (EST)
I continue to patiently await the triumphant return of cities. again. AmishRobots 20:55, 18 October 2011 (BST)
Cities will be like the pheonix, rising from the ashes! Syagrius 16:44, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
The System Is Down? - Royan 03:06, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
What goes down must come up --Ra 01:42, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Anybody ever figure out that Eggs thing this year?

I've got nothin'. S. Mackie 17:23, 13 June 2011 (BST)

Was it anything more than a silly MOTD someone set? --Dragon 14:32, 14 June 2011 (BST)

Did the World Shrink?

went to visit the monastery at 100E 3N DSSGCM only to find that it wasn't there. I don't mean there was no monastary; I mean that the actual geographical location simply doesn't exist! wtf? The world seems to end at 99e. Is GCM wrong? Did I miss something? AmishRobots 20:47, 21 April 2011 (BST)

Most curious. Can you determine how long it's been since that bit of GCM was updated? S. Mackie 02:17, 22 April 2011 (BST)
no idea AmishRobots 03:46, 24 April 2011 (BST)
There seems to be a wall of mountains around 187N that doesn't show on any maps...cheese 19:04, 27 April 2011 (GMT)

Bridge to Oz (5th of April)

Is there anyone still playing? Feels lonely and very quiet... (: Anyway, I was bored so now there is a bridge to Oz (Holiday > Ninja > Cigar > .... > 40E 201S), maybe someone wants to use it. I don't think I will be maintaining it regularly, but if anyone has nothing to do, a lot of AP and plenty of wood - you're welcome to participate in the maintenance. Cheers! Agzu 15:39, 5 April 2011 (BST)

Still some of us here yeah. AmishRobots 20:42, 21 April 2011 (BST)
And I'm back (all five of me...) --BlaisedeC 00:45, 3 May 2011 (BST)

Items Wanted

Looking for a Trophy Cabinet, Spellbooks, Coconuts, Space Rockets, almost anything you might offer. Paying top, um, Gold Piece!! Palantir cheese, or post on my player page, I check 'Recent Changes' on a daily basis. --cheese 19 March 2011, 13:28 (GMT)

Trophy Cabinet and Spellbooks obtained, but still buying other exotic items...cheese 24 April 2011, 20:08 (GMT)
Also obtained slash-throughs! S. Mackie 04:34, 25 April 2011 (BST)


Not just any ultrasound, but the sort that's a diagnostic with an eye toward the more woeful of prenatal ailments, and the sort that tells you the child's sex as best can be gathered by such means.
Seems our child is doing rather well, and will be a boy. In online contexts, I shall discuss him under the name Diego. S. Mackie 06:35, 16 February 2011 (GMT)
Addendum: I am terrified re: my credentials as a parent. I'm terrified of the responsibility this will require.
Far more than any of that, though, I'm terrified that somehow, at the last minute, Diego will be torn from me the way Moire and Schroedinger were before him. I don't want to mourn for another child, especially not one where we know he has so nearly arrived. I've had two children miscarry, each more traumatically than the last.
Please, please, kiddo, hang on another few months. Be well, for fucks sakes, be well. S. Mackie 08:10, 16 February 2011 (GMT)

Be well Macksting, Sheyona, and Diego! We want to meet ya'll and hang, after all Syagrius 22:32, 19 February 2011 (GMT)
"We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately."
Sending you & your lady person some good birthing energy. Be well indeed! Re: being terrified of one's ability to parent - it's par for the course. But if you have/had reasonably decent parents that's 9/10ths of the battle right there - just take a page from their book and trust your gut. Alternately if you had rotten parents but have the self awareness to work out some of what they did wrong that's 9/10ths of the battle right there - just don't take any pages from their book and trust your gut. Scary Mike 13:08, 24 February 2011 (EDT)
So do what me mum did, and don't do what me da did. Gotcha. S. Mackie 06:27, 27 February 2011 (GMT)
If you want a decent book - "Raising a Modern Day Knight" is a good one, if you can tolerate the religious background running through it. I read through it before finding out we were having a little girl. Syagrius 18:29, 27 February 2011 (GMT)
Girls can be Knights too! ^_^ Scary Mike 19:59, 3 March 2011 (EDT)
Yeah, but instead of Sir they call themselves Dame, usually, eh? S. Mackie 19:12, 6 April 2011 (BST)
Not in Cities.  :) --Dragon 14:19, 7 April 2011 (BST)
Do Cities PCs even have a sex, within the sphere of the game? Damn near every last one of us is a gender bender regardless. Sexual characteristics may be something restricted to NPCs.
If so, maybe that's the reason for adventuring in this game. Rising above being merely neuter freaks of nature, we advance outward and attempt to become something greater because, though we can make love, we can't have kids. We'll never be heirs. As such, we must slay dragons to gain our titles, which live and die with us. S. Mackie 22:13, 7 April 2011 (BST)
Some of the Cities PC's are married - Domentzia and I have wedding rings to prove it ;) -- otherwise I always thought of the Cities-zens like the Lego mini-figures from the late '70s and early 80's Syagrius 05:32, 8 April 2011 (BST)
ISTR the getting-knighted message including something along the lines of "The 'king explains that all knights are known as 'Sir', even female ones." As for heirs, I'm leaving everything to Puff.  ;) --Dragon 13:37, 8 April 2011 (BST)
So I s'pose we have sex, we just don't care about it.
That came out all wrong. S. Mackie 19:00, 16 April 2011 (BST)


It's been a very fun few years, but I've been playing less and less often, so I think it's time I headed off to Holiday Island on a more or less permanent basis.

Before I go, there are a couple of items that could possibly be of interest to other players - mainly three Familiars (at Elite, Deadly and Competent) which eat Bottles of Cheap Rose, Bottles of Wine, and Bottles of Rum, respectively. Someone might also be interested in taking over my Guild - I've let the teleporters collapse, but there's a goodly amount of cash in the treasury, and two Guild Factories making Cucumber Sandwiches (well, one makes the Salad Dressing and one makes the Sandwiches).

If you're interested in any of the above, please PAYG andrewsi - ta! Andrewsi 12:41, 12 February 2011 (GMT)

We'll miss you, man. S. Mackie 08:00, 13 February 2011 (GMT)


jane and john everyone are both trying to start guilds now; They've each deployed a guild permit in totally different areas, yet neither of them seems able to dig the slightest bit of a hole to put rooms in. Any help in this endeavour would be most appreciated. They would prefer taht Jane's guild, located on Holiday Isle be the successful one of the two, but failing that, John's guild is north of earth city.

I'd be happy to help but am a total newb when it comes to all things guild. What do I need tool-wise and/or skill wise to assist?

Scary Mike 20:02, 3 March 2011 (EDT)


This year, it's a Hamper. Let us see what it means. S. Mackie 01:16, 25 December 2010 (GMT)

You lose a Hamper.
You gain a Bag of Walnuts.
You gain a Four-Pack of Lager.
You gain a Bottle of Rum.
You gain a Bottle of Whisky.
You gain a Bottle of Sprout Brandy.
You gain 3 Potatoes.
You gain 3 Carrots.
You gain 10 Sprouts.
You gain 4 After-Dinner Mints.

Very interesting. 01:17, 25 December 2010 (GMT)

Also, GIFT BOXES! If you want to make the rest of this festive season awesome, there's still a little time to send gifts to all your Cities friends! S. Mackie 19:16, 26 December 2010 (GMT)
My hamper opened to reveal the exact same things (and quantities). Syagrius 04:54, 28 December 2010 (GMT)
Hmmm.... I got:
You lose a Hamper
You gain a Bag of Walnuts.
You gain a Glass Sword
You gain a Glass Sword
You gain a XXXX
You gain a...
Nah, just kidding. I got the same stuff too. Happy New Year, everyone! Scary Mike 14:05, 1 January 2011 (GMT)
Happy new year, ya prat. :) S. Mackie 15:22, 1 January 2011 (GMT)

Global Cooling?

Snow fields have appeared near 95E 45S DSSGCM:


Badgers and Arctic Undines seen. Predicador 15:54, 3 December 2010 (GMT)

I know! Isn't it cool?
For those who aren't aware, this happens now and then when it snows in Southampton. It has to be manually triggered; 'King Elseware has stated that he really should automate it, indicating its possibility, but so far it only occurs when bade do so by a Great Lord. S. Mackie 19:09, 3 December 2010 (GMT)
Ironically, it's not snowing on the great northern plains, where the snakes run slither free. Didn't even know there was something unusual until I ventured south a bit. --Greycat 01:30, 5 December 2010 (GMT)

OK, that's long enough!

It's almost two weeks now I can't get into the game. Is it me, or what? Dendrast 02:28, 28 October 2010 (BST)

Sadly, the server seems to have had a hardware failure (see main page). A few of the GLs are working on it, but I haven't heard anything the past few days... --Dragon 04:32, 28 October 2010 (BST)
Yeah, that's a heavy hardware glitch alright. Still, already. So it isn't me and my steam-powered system.Dendrast 02:54, 29 October 2010 (BST)
There are no current events because there are no events. I'm just glad I don't have any pets wasting away from neglect. Dendrast 03:56, 1 November 2010 (GMT)
OK, I know the game's been out for a couple of weeks. It would happen right now when we're under-staffed and the whole team is worked off their feet :( -- I promise I will take a look at it and bring back your beloved game, but I can't promise it'll be any time soon. Sorry guys. AndyLandy 09:31, 1 November 2010 (GMT)
please, i am having serious withdrawal symptoms here, trembling hands, brittle nails, getting stuff done IRL... AmishRobots 03:39, 12 November 2010 (GMT)
wooooo thanks GLs! Ant 19:19, 29 November 2010 (GMT)
Awesome. S. Mackie 19:23, 29 November 2010 (GMT)
Dudes!!! Roll back anything you want!! You're back! My life has meaning. Dendrast 02:23, 30 November 2010 (GMT)
Hmm. Now I'm wondering if there's an exploit available before other players wake up. Dendrast 02:36, 30 November 2010 (GMT)
yeaaa i was worried for a bit that i would have to go with out it rea1
Hoo Ray!!!! yeah, that was awful; I was actually starting to get stuff done IRL.

Is it time for another picnic?

Sunday night, when I've amassed more AP. Location suggestions welcome. Predicador 15:36, 11 September 2010 (BST)

Let it be at 1E 1N DSSGCM, tonight at 20:00 Cities time. Predicador 12:32, 12 September 2010 (BST)
Up and running. Predicador 20:01, 12 September 2010 (BST)

Public Picnic

I will attempt to create a picnic at 12E 41S DSSGCM on Saturday, 28 August, 20:00 Cities time. Tar hunters welcome (bring your own feathers). Predicador 12:40, 27 August 2010 (BST)

The Picnic is happening now. Take the convenient portal from Immemorial Park in Earth City, next to the Shrine. -- Sertularian 23:44, 28 August 2010 (BST)
Ended (bad). A wild tar-bashing spree brought me lots of tars, a possibility, a singing sword and speedboat plans (not bad at all). Predicador 07:48, 29 August 2010 (BST)

YARP (Yet Another Retirement Post)

It has come to the point where I don't even want to be bothered to check in weekly for AP-burn and pet feeding, so it's off to Holiday Island for me. This has happened a few times before, but I have a feeling it's going to be permanent this time. I am giving away the following pets, along with all the food (or food ingredients) I have for them:

  • Elite Goldfish
  • Elite Big Kat
  • Deadly Giant Dung Beetle
  • Deadly Giant Dung Beetle
  • Competent Sea Horsie (1% Evil)
  • Competent Hamster (0 damage, 1% Evil)
  • Mostly Harmless Dragon (Earth aligned, too big to ride, fond of bacon)

If you are interested in providing a home for any of these animals, please note me here or in-game. I'd hate for them to die (except for the hamster, who I was considering allowing to become 100% evil so he would cuddle his owner for 0 damage every round of combat). -Scrumbucket 20:02, 18 July 2010 (BST)

So sorry to hear of another retirement, but if there's no new content, it's understandably difficult to maintain interest. About the dragon -- who is it, what are its genes? -- Sertularian 23:08, 18 July 2010 (BST)
Eh, to be honest, I've lost interest in the Internet in general. (I'm retiring from pretty much all my online games.) For those interested, the dragon is Aylee. -Scrumbucket 00:33, 19 July 2010 (BST)
We'll miss you, Scrumbucket. S. Mackie 22:22, 29 July 2010 (BST)

Sounds like Great Lord Yendor

(5:06:05 AM) Albert: I sense a moderate disturbance in the source...
(5:09:29 AM) Albert: >> 'There's a new quest. It begins at a location in one of the four cities.'
- sounds like Great Lord Yendor.

Well, let's get to it! S. Mackie 16:18, 20 April 2010 (BST)

If this were facebook, I'd click "Like"! -Jon 00:18, 21 April 2010 (BST)
It's definitely a fun quest, and fairly AP intensive. Quest details are now available here. Be warned, there are a lot of spoilers there. Ravensdance 01:04, 21 April 2010 (BST)

2010 Census

I've decided to take a 2010 Census of Cities players, old and new, to determine who is still playing the game. If you are reading this, please go complete the census. AmishRobots 20:57, 7 April 2010 (BST)

Not the Retiring Sort

Freezing Man II: The Wrath of Cold

It's near Northwich 'cause I'm a bastard. Anybody else who wants to set up a Shimmering Thingy when the one in Water City dries up is free to enchant a talisman and set up a new one to the place. I shall facilitate how I can. S. Mackie 10:15, 23 October 2009 (BST)

On the Retirment Bandwagon

Just like Rhapsodie, I have decided to retire my character for a while and don't want to see my pets die on Holiday Island. Leave a message on my Talk page and i'll give them away free with whatever food I have left for them.03:07, 10 October 2009 (BST) --Kressida

Dragon Tintaglia- Poor Earth aligned. Eats Earth weapons, tailismans etc and Bacon.


  • Knight Mare - Competant Grey Female War Horse. She is one of the original Pwny eggs so I would be sad to see her die.
  • Peppercorn - Harmless Black Female Sea Horsie.
  • Rocket - Harmless Pinto Female Winged Horsie.


  • Flipper - Competant Goldfish.

I also have a variety of dead pets: Icleus- Pinto Female War Horsie, Bilvark Black Male War Horsie, Killdozer- Dead Minrilax

Pets Free to Good Home

I've decided it's time to retire my characters; I just don't get to play enough anymore (having a baby has worn me out!). But I don't want to see my pets die in my inventory if I can avoid it, so I have a number of pets (including one special one, listed first) free to a good home. Palantir me or leave a message on my page if you're interested! -- Rhapsodie 00:15, 6 October 2009 (BST)


  • Friday - elite black male Horsie. I bought him at auction during the Cities Festival, so he has double the normal AP and food points. I'd especially hate to see this guy die seeing as he cost me real money!!
  • Billomina - elite black female Horsie.
  • Hunter - deadly pinto male War Horsie.

(Also a dead Horsie and War Horsie. Resurrection services available.)


  • Adamant - competent male air-aligned dragon. Has breath weapon but can't be ridden. Likes cow-stuff, blood and tribbles.

(Also a dead fire-aligned dragon. Resurrection services available.)


  • Bibbi - male with sharp teeth and Military Fashion 1, Cute Fashion 1, Punk Fashion 1 fashions.
  • Horus - male with Punk Fashion 2 Cute Fashion 1 Industrial Fashion 1 fashions.
  • Waffles - female with warm fur and Kinky Fashion 1, Goth Fashion 1, Industrial Fashion 1 fashions.


  • Rawr - dangerous big kat.
  • Shaun - dangerous electric sheep.
  • Frankenstinky - mostly harmless giant dung beetle.
  • Mustardseed - average familiar. Likes chocolate mudslides.
  • Moth - average familiar. Likes bilbo and legolas cocktails.
  • Peaseblossom - average familiar. Likes bilbo cocktails.


So we're losing one of our competent scientists and good Citiezens? We'll miss you. S. Mackie 06:34, 6 October 2009 (BST)

Agreed - bummer. also posted to your talk page. Syagrius 17:09, 6 October 2009 (BST)
Aw, thanks guys! :) I've had loads of fun with this game over the years! Rhapsodie 03:00, 10 October 2009 (BST)

Bowling Alley

Bowling Alley now open (Monday October 5th, 11:50 PM game time) at 92E 91N, courtesy of your friendly neighborhood cheese...

Tired and Exhausted

Are not the same thing, apparently. After a bit of work on my lady wife Tzia's part ( 7 total hours of labor ) -- I'm a daddy for the first time!

Public link to the photo album - everyone should be able to see it.

Isabel Marie was born Sept 22, 2009 at 6:44pm (Pacific Daylight Time) weighing in at 8 pounds even and measuring 20.5 inches long.

Born mad at the world, she opened her eyes and screamed bloody murder at the doctor as soon as the head was clear. Syagrius 21:31, 25 September 2009 (BST)

And I must say, she is most adorable - though I'm biased ever-so-slightly  :-) Syagrius 01:07, 28 September 2009 (BST)
Got any cigars for us, Mister Father? S. Mackie 02:05, 29 September 2009 (BST)
Sadly, no. How bout a Pepsi?  :) Syagrius 23:34, 30 September 2009 (BST)
Somebody get this man a cigar. S. Mackie 08:06, 1 October 2009 (BST)
What a cute little girl! Congratulations! :) Rhapsodie 23:37, 5 October 2009 (BST)


It's not Citiesberg, but it is working! I've just finished implementing Marketeer ( and hope it'll prove useful to some people. Ream 22:08, 19 September 2009 (BST)

You rock. Herbacious 10:30, 20 September 2009 (BST)
FANTASTIC!! This is EVEN BETTAR THAN CITIESBERG! for a sec there, I thought a search page like on CB might be nice, but forget it! I will be happy to ctrl+F my way around this page. CHANGE NOTHING! AmishRobots 02:10, 25 September 2009 (BST)
Thanks both for the complements :) One thing to note is that while Marketeer is updating every 30 minutes by taking new market and mall feeds from Cities, it seems that those xml feeds themselves might not be updating as rapidly. (That or that are a couple of strange data points in there. e.g. I am apparently selling 50 Daemonic Letter Openers at the Southern Market. This is a fabricated lie on the part of markets.xml!!!) Rest assured, it's showing the best data available but apologies if there's something misleading! Ream 02:39, 25 September 2009 (BST)


Hello. Been trying to access Citiesberg at and it wants a username and password. Does anyone know if this is a permanent new move, or if it's just a blip? Not sure who's responsible for Citiesberg, but whoever it is deserves kudos - I feel lost and lonely without it. Herbacious 19:14, 12 September 2009 (BST)

Bowling Alley

There is a bowling alley open now at 87E 96N (just west of Water City). Mintaka 15:56, 11 September 2009 (BST)

Bored now

Is there anything new to do, or any actual current events? Come on the 'king. You're slacking.10X 22:22, 28 August 2009

you don't even have 12mil XP yet. Go kill some things for sport. Take on the Sun for leaderboards!density 02:17, 30 August 2009 (BST)

Network Downtime Sunday

News from the GLs on IRC. I'm just a messenger.

ECS network downtime, Sunday 9th August 8am-12noon BST.

So, expect the game/wiki to be inaccessible during that time. --Dragon 07:12, 8 August 2009 (BST)

Game is still down; the machine didn't come back up after the outage. I don't know when to expect it up. --Dragon 18:25, 9 August 2009 (BST)
<AndyLandy_MSc> Oh arse, are we still down?
<AndyLandy_MSc> I swear I hit 'go' on Cities server before I left work this morning
<AndyLandy_MSc> I'll kick it when I get in to work tomorrow, 9am UK time
--Dragon 00:44, 10 August 2009 (BST)

The Department of Ludicrous Actions Brings you...

... the Bridge to Northwich.

Yes, that's right. We now have bridge access from Bentnob to Oz, the Roc Totem, and Northwich. Well, because of the Icepack, we had to stop 28 squares north of Northwich, but if you bring Winged Boots and or Daedalus Wings, you should be able to make it the rest of the way on foot.

(Why? Why not?)

There are many other things that can be done with this:

  • Tributary Bridges to Bleak Island, Phw's Island, Dragon, Caroline Island, and the Bunny Isles
  • Maintaining the sucker. In about 4-6 months time, the icepack should be melted enough that the bridge can go direct to the gates of Northwich.
  • Pave the ocean by extending the bridge. Again, why not?

I will leave this to the aformentioned Really Bored Players to take it from here. -- Thog 04:14, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Let us find a lava bomb and declare war on Kaos Island! I'll pave the way. Literally. - Heyus2 10:34, 11 July 2009 (BST)
And I'll write a eulogy about it. Schnorrer 13:18, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Prizes Ho!

So some of you may recall I had a birthday party a few months ago. We had party games. I never gave out prizes. Ooops.

Well, now we have many many prizes to give out, but it's up to the winners to do so. See here for details. Note that Scrumbucket is currently on the clock. -- Thog 00:19, 13 June 2009 (BST)

So we're just about done, and we have something on the order of a half dozen unclaimed prizes. Any suggestions as to how they get parcelled out? -- Thog 00:58, 4 July 2009 (BST)
Jayco/Payco. I've not talked him up as a recipient of good cheer lately. S. Mackie 06:25, 4 July 2009 (BST)

UPDATE: If all goes well, I'll be handing out prizes this weekend. Stay tuned, folks... -- Thog 04:14, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Easter Eggs

sooo, this is a bit late, but "current events" seems to be a bit of a misnomer page lately anyway (should we rename this page to "In case anyone missed it" or "since you haven't been on IRC in a while..." sorry, back to the point. I've got these easter eggs, been offline for a while so i didn't notice them till recently. (I would assume they showed up around Easter maybe? Is there anything i can do with them besides eating them for small healing benefit? Somehow I just expect there to be some cool hidden benefit to them. Like, you know, an /easter egg/? I haven't tried hitting rabbits with them yet. AmishRobots 02:10, 28 April 2009 (BST)

It seems they confer +5 AP and HP; neither permanent, from what I can see. S. Mackie 07:28, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Happy April Fool's Day

Somebody Rickrolled Cities. --Tiltowait 13:59, 1 April 2009 (BST)

Surrounded by "Never gonna's" How disorienting. I assume this to be good King Elsewhere's Fool's Day humour. OmertaLanois 1 April 2009 11:36 AM EST

Enchanted wands/swords renamed

Andylandy fixed the naming for elemental swords/wands that have been enchanted. Could people please document the names? (I don't have any) --naath 15:46, 26 March 2009 (GMT)

Wind Sword
Onyx Sword (very familiar; Earth)
Flaming Sword
Hydro Sword
Dark Sword2 is now Black Sword
Ice Sword2 is now Frozen Sword
Spirit Sword2 is now Ghostly Sword
Neutral Sword2 is now Grey Sword
Shrimp Sword2 is now Krill Sword
Sewage Sword2 is now Slime Sword
Pure Sword2 is now White Sword
Air Wand +1 is now Windier Wand
Air Wand +2 is now Windiest Wand
Earth Wand +1 is now Earthier Wand
Earth Wand +2 is now Earthiest Wand
Fire Wand +1 is now Firier Wand
Fire Wand +2 is now Firiest Wand
Water Wand +1 is now Wetter Wand
Water Wand +2 is now Wettest Wand
Ice Wand +1 is now Icier Wand
Ice Wand +2 is now Iciest Wand
Spirit Wand +1 is now Spookier Wand
Spirit Wand +2 is now Spookiest Wand
Neutral Wand +1 is now More Neutral Wand
Neutral Wand +2 is now Most Neutral Wand
Sewage Wand +1 is now Dirtier Wand
Sewage Wand +2 is now Dirtiest Wand
Pure Wand +1 is now Purer Wand
Pure Wand +2 is now Purest Wand
Dark Wand +1 is now Darker Wand
Dark Wand +2 is now Darkest Wand
Shrimp Wand +1 is now Shrimpier Wand
Shrimp Wand +2 is now Shrimpiest Wand
Thank you much, Great Lord Andrew. S. Mackie 18:06, 26 March 2009 (GMT)
Added a few, not sure what they were to start with Pri3st 23:19, 26 March 2009 (GMT)
Added the rest of the minor-aligned wands. We're still missing the minor-aligned sword2s; presumably for lack of excellent ideas on what to call them. PotatoEngineer 00:45, 27 March 2009 (GMT)
My (if not excellent then reasonable) suggestions: Lobster Sword (shrimp), Phantom Sword (spirit), Heavenly Sword (pure), Black Sword (dark), Inert Sword (neutral), Frozen Sword (ice), Cloacal Sword (sewage). - Isambard 01:16, 27 March 2009 (GMT)
Sewage should be "The Toilet Brush" Pri3st 03:40, 27 March 2009 (GMT)
Yay, we have minor-aligned Sword2s now! PotatoEngineer 00:48, 28 March 2009 (GMT)

Other Alignment Stuff!

At the same time, did he make your name at the top of the screen to reflect the color of your alignment? Cause my name's a sickly green right now, and I'm not sure how I feel about that. density 17:48, 27 March 2009 (GMT)
Not at the same time, but a bit earlier today he did yes. Ream 18:03, 27 March 2009 (GMT)
I just noticed that! It's very pretty, Avatar-- er, Andrew. S. Mackie 20:43, 27 March 2009 (GMT)

Vegeta! What does the Scouter say?

What?! 9000?!

WTF is a Scouter? It sorts under equipment, I've got two now, I'm even wearing one, and I must say that on me it looks good. Dendrast 02:43, 31 March 2009 (BST)
It goes on the face. I couldn't wear my Shades with it on. Is this some obscure slang we North Americans don't get? Dendrast 02:57, 31 March 2009 (BST)
Actually, I imagine this would be easier to understand for select North Americans than for some percentage of the UK, as it's from a Japanese animated show of... debatable worth, in my opinion. A Scouter is, in the setting of Dragonball Z, a manner in which to measure the opponent's chi or personal power or somesuch.
My little sister was a fan. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. Personally, I think it's pro wrestling in anime format, which means it must serve a purpose to somebody in terms of giving a masculine soap-opera equivalent.
Some time ago, a piece of Youtube Poop came into existence which contained approximately fifteen seconds of DBZ looped, remixed, distorted, and stretched for a considerable length of time to emphasize that "it's over 9000!" The remix was almost lyrical in its accentuation of a far-too-common trope in that show, the measurement of and exasperation with an opponent's superpowers. S. Mackie 03:36, 31 March 2009 (BST)
Here's the video that started it all for those who are interested. Kaos Dragon 03:54, 31 March 2009 (BST)
And I thought that Anime was just a style of pron. Dendrast 04:12, 1 April 2009 (BST)

Forum Stores

I just acquired a number of computing devices of a rather archiac nature. I wonder what I should do with these... --Tiltowait 14:03, 18 February 2009 (GMT)

And there's different old stuff from time to time. --Tiltowait 21:24, 19 February 2009 (GMT)
Word from the gods -
<AndyLandy> It's approximately once-every-three-weeks that you can buy a hard disk
So there's that. S. Mackie 13:29, 9 March 2009 (GMT)
So you make the IBM-Compatible PC - and is that it? They must be good for something. Has anyone tried making lots and connecting them up? At very least you should be able to connect to a BBS. Schnorrer 10:21, 15 March 2009 (GMT)
These are the GLs we're talking about, where no talk of "usefulness" is going to get in the way of a good in-joke or reference. Who says the computers are good for anything? PotatoEngineer 06:16, 17 March 2009 (GMT)
Maybe if you put a Perl in one, you can play Cities in Cities and build IBM-Compatible PCs while you build IBM-Compatible PCs. --Naimoigiant 13:21, 17 March 2009 (GMT)
Nice idea. But a 486 CPU and you're more likely to be playing nethack. Schnorrer 14:48, 17 March 2009 (GMT)
Leading up to this point, I might actually have wanted a Beowulf cluster entirely composed of 486 machines. When this is done, I don't think that'll be the case.
64 cases, at that. S. Mackie 04:52, 20 March 2009 (GMT)
Addendum: The Forum Stores haven't updated in two days. This is irritating. I begin to wonder if we have missed our flight; it would be rather cruel, but not wholly outside the realm of possibility. 05:03, 26 March 2009 (GMT)


I'm gonna be a daddy! My lady wife Tzia and I are expecting our first sometime around Sept-Oct  :) Syagrius 23:01, 14 February 2009 (GMT)

CONGRATULATIONS! (My first is due in May.) :) -- Rhapsodie 23:30, 14 February 2009 (GMT)
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Congrats! :D -- Corellis 18:42, 14 February 2009 (EST)
Maybe we should take up a cigar collection somehow. S. Mackie 00:32, 15 February 2009 (GMT)
If someone's collecting The Vaudeville Guild hoarded a few before it sent the humidor into the ether. Schnorrer 10:33, 15 February 2009 (GMT)
I have the humidor. Still waiting for the new baby, but any day now.10X 23:00, 15 February 2009 (GMT)
Congratulations on the birth of your bub, 10X, and thanks for the cigar! -- Rhapsodie 09:59, 25 February 2009 (GMT)
Just saw the doctor - My lovely wife is due on Sept 18! Syagrius 16:35, 16 February 2009 (GMT)

Anabasis, what the ####?

Some ass named Anabasis cured my Lycanthropy out of the blue few days ago I think. I'm pretty pissed about it right now. Just saying, if you see this guy, give 'em a slap in the face or something for me. Or better yet, stab some syringe into him. - Cameron 00:56, 14 February 2009 (GMT)

Yahhh! You say it Cameron. Herbacious 10:37, 15 February 2009 (GMT)
If I see them I'll be sure to give them a high-five for their heroic bravery in wrestling a werewolf to the ground and saving the human within from their nightly trip to bestial insanity. - Nuru nuru 16:06, 16 February 2009 (JST)
Oh, and I wouldn't bother with sticking the hunter with a syringe if I were you. I understand that some werewolf hunters get into the business because they rather like that sort of thing. Or so I hear. ;) -Scrumbucket 17:53, 16 February 2009 (GMT)

How Rude!

Patchouli, if you're reading this don't think I'll forget how rude you've been running off with my Acles that I erroneously passed onto you on a trading post. Watch your back Patchouli. Herbacious 09:09, 13 February 2009 (GMT)

Although there's no benefit to be gained from starting your own pentacle (I think), it's quite unsporting to not return those acles. However, I think this is best left to be done through PAYGs. If you do need an acle or two, please PAYG me. Corellis 22:38, 13 February 2009 (EST)
PAYG - You think so? I think it's far more satisfying to rant and rave in public! I mean, Patchouli might be in limbo and never get my message - what a waste of indignation that would be.Herbacious 10:36, 15 February 2009 (GMT)
Of course, if he's in limbo, he probably won't bother checking the wiki (if he's even got a wiki account). Syagrius 18:20, 15 February 2009 (GMT)

Patchouli sends her apologies and has returned the acles. She went into limbo when she had eye surgery and wasn't on for a while. Any rudeness was entirely unintentional and regretted.

All allegations of rudeness are retracted. Patchouli, you're a brick. Herbacious 21:45, 16 February 2009 (GMT)

Deep-Sea Fishing Trip

I'm going on an extended fishing trip in a few days. I'm currently Earth-aligned; anyone interested in joining me? My main aim is to catch a Tuna, but I hope to find some Jelly Fish as well. -Scrumbucket 20:45, 5 February 2009 (GMT)

Thog's Birthday Party is over

My birthday party has ended. Thanks for everyone who showed up and participated. A few notes:

  1. Voting is still going on for the Thogopolis Tour Guide contest. (We're on a second round, since there was a four-way tie for second). Please head over to the page above and choose your favorite.
  2. I'll be announcing the winner of the latest Thogistani Army competition as soon as the judges send me their rankings and I tally them.
  3. Similarly the winner of the overall prize will be announced once the Army and Tour Guide contests finish
  4. Winners, please stay tuned. I'll be taking care of the long-awaited prizes in the very near future. After I stop for a day or two to breathe :-)

- Thog 19:18, 31 January 2009 (GMT)

New Class Levels Coming Soon

[15:56] <Albert> >> Wizard omitted1 has become an Archmage! 
[15:56] <Albert> >> Sgt. Duke omitted2 MD is promoted to General.
[15:56] * Alberta smartly salutes General omitted2
[15:58] <macksting> What the hell?!
[15:58] <macksting> <name deleted>?!
[15:58] <omitted1> Hmmm?
[15:58] <macksting> This can't be serious.
[15:58] <omitted1> Of course it is.
[15:59] <omitted1> The background's the same, though.  :(
[15:59] <macksting> Enlighten me.
[16:00] <omitted1> I'm sorry, but I promised I wouldn't give out the secret.  :(
[16:00] * macksting winces.
[16:00] <omitted1> I'm sort of a Beta tester.

Seriously. Don't pursue this too violently; I'm leaking info as it is. Even so, there ya are. New class levels coming soon: Archmage and General. Just in time to take the wind out of Thog's sails party-wise. ;) S. Mackie 00:09, 24 January 2009 (GMT)

I've just spotted an Archmage too. tried to nick my Wizard's hat, the bounder!10X 22:54, 24 January 2009 (GMT)
There are creams you can get for that sort of leaking... :) -- Rhapsodie 21:58, 31 January 2009 (GMT)

The Lists

I just noticed that the 'King is hanging out in the Lists just south of his Palace. Does this mean we can joust??? --Tiltowait 20:15, 5 January 2009 (GMT)

I don't think so. Not unless the List Field has reappeared as well, which it hadn't last time I was there. Maybe he's just haginging around for old time's sake? Either way, you could test it by going to the tent and seeing if you can register. -- Rhapsodie 21:15, 5 January 2009 (GMT)
I saw this a month ago, registered, and hung out in the field for a bit before getting bored and withdrawing. Everything acted like normal, so I imagine you probably could joust if you had an opponent. -Scrumbucket 00:43, 6 January 2009 (GMT)
Yes, I think it's active, you just need an opponent! --Tiltowait 14:42, 6 January 2009 (GMT)


Want a dragon but it's a long wait? Why not get a small rodent instead: Hamsters, one of the newest species of pet in the game! Put your name down here! -- Rhapsodie 02:34, 16 December 2008 (GMT)

Also, note that hamsters have been specified by Elseware to be the most powerful pets in the game, potentially. Rife speculation is that it's involves hamsters having vorpal-like abilities. Wouldn't you like to be part of this grand experiment? Adopt a hamster today! If not for your love of the pet, do it for SCIENCE!
His reasons were much more persuasive than mine! :) Rhapsodie 06:32, 17 December 2008 (GMT)
i would like one i am however 6 weeks in a 8 week process of feeding a gold fish, and and almost loving the idea of a attack gold fish "sik em" Tontoe so in 2 weeks i will trade him in be a really real pet owner then i would like one.... " broke in to some guys house and his gold fish nearly riped my leg off" hhahahahhaha--rea 1 23:40, 20 December 2008 (GMT)

The Curse of the Terrible Humidor, revisited

Be careful what you wish for. You just may get it.

Upon the birth of my son, back in January, the Great Lords saw fit to present me with a magical Humidor. A wonderous device from which cigars could endlessly be produced. These cigars essentially had the same properties as fags in terms of AP gain, combined with HP loss with the slight risk of lowered max AP or HP too. I gave them out freely in celebration of the arrival of my little boy Zack on the planet. Many enjoyed them.

Now, Zack is crawling and has teeth, but the humidor has become a curse upon me. 'How? Why?' you may ask. Well, I have for too long now been availing myself of the benefits of AP gain, but the toll has been high. Oh yes. My max AP and HP are battered to the point now where I have to do something about it and rid myself of this monkey on my back.

My name is XXXXXXXXXX BortJr and I am a cigar addict.

This is my attempt to get clean. And also (heh heh heh) pass on the curse, and in doing so make the game just a tiny bit more interesting too.

(The only caveat to the offer I am about to make is that it be, at some point, loaned to PotatoEngineer for his quest. I thought that might be nice for him). However - he is also free to make an offer for it himself to keep permanently too, should he so wish.

Smoking cigars is a gamble. Some evenings I've been able, through a combination of Dragon Stone use and cigars, to gain several hundred extra AP in the space of a few minutes. If you've got a massive max AP & HP combination, achieved through various means, surely that's a risk you'd be willing to take? This unique item has its price. The toll it takes may be mighty. But maybe *you* could be the one to beat the odds. Maybe you would use Universal Solvent to destroy it. Maybe you could place it out of reach - guarded by Polychromatic Dragons, placed on the corpse of a mule, deep under the ground - a quest such as this could be your legacy to the game, perhaps? Or you could come up with another solution or scheme.

So - my desire is this: Offer me cucumber sandwiches and Hard Knocks itemsValuables so that I may regain my constitution. Offer me many of them. A great many. And to the highest bidder goes the terrible Cursed Humidor to do with as he, she or zhe wishes. (sorry, tenex :) ) Place bids here, we'll go until we seem to have a winner. --BortJr 04:49, 11 December 2008 (GMT)

I'll kick off the bidding with a single Short String. PotatoEngineer 05:49, 11 December 2008 (GMT)
Two short strings, a pointy stick and the promise of my friendship. Corellis 10:21, 11 December 2008 (EST)
100K GP Timekeeper 16:01, 11 December 2008 (GMT)
25 Anoraks --Jpv 19:56, 11 December 2008 (GMT)
A lifetime supply of cigars. :) --JAD 22:04, 11 December 2008 (GMT)
A lifetime supply of cigars and two short strings! Plus ... 100 point sticks!Corellis 01:21, 12 December 2008 (EST)
A lifetime supply of cigars (i thought you might not want that ) and 3 short strings or if you perfer 3 strings...... and a drinking buddy if you are ever in tulsa --rea 1 01:35, 13 December 2008 (GMT)
And to think that I was asked if Cthu1hu and I get one soon as we are having our new bub on the Curse of the Humidor worth it??? I'll think of a bid and get back to you. - Kressida 23:33, 13 December 2008 (GMT)
A single Pure Wand3. PotatoEngineer 23:38, 13 December 2008 (GMT)
Hmmm...déjà vu. I don't suppose you'd be tempted by priceless entertainments. Schnorrer 11:04, 14 December 2008 (GMT)
a seven week old gold fish(not evil) mostly harmless and well taken care of, and a survay vessel in a bottle--rea 1 16:07, 14 December 2008 (GMT)
Ten crocodile scales, ten slices of pizza, and ten pieces of leather. --JAD 17:48, 14 December 2008 (GMT)

ONE MILLION GOLD PIECES10X 23:04, 14 December 2008 (GMT)

One BEEEEEEEEEEELION dollars -- Doctor Evil 23:44, 14 December 2008 (GMT)
10X, didn't you get rid of the Humidor for a very good reason? PotatoEngineer 03:18, 15 December 2008 (GMT)
Obviously auctioning off the humidor at the start was part of a cunning plan to rid himself of 1 million gold pieces. Marvellous, 10X! You have my utter respect. Corellis 22:21, 14 December 2008 (EST)
You really want it back, 10X? You are the rightful owner, so I won't bid against you. --JAD 19:20, 15 December 2008 (GMT)
I figured he was just being a smart-ass. Am I wrong? -- Thog 19:30, 15 December 2008 (GMT)

I'm going to be a Dad again around February time and Zack is getting a little sibling, so I figured I'd need it once more. I'm afraid my mighty sperm cannot be defeated by conventional methods of birth control, so I'm gonna need that humidor again. So my bid stands.10X 23:28, 15 December 2008 (GMT)

Happy to hear it. Congrats on the expected child. Enjoy your humidor, and save me a celebratory cigar. --JAD 23:43, 15 December 2008 (GMT)
Another bid: 5 Spirit Wands, 5 Spirit Knives (used frequently in the Taxing Cellar, IIRC), 5 Ice Wands, 5 Ice Talismans, 5 Neutral Wands, 5 Neutral Talismans, a Shrimp Wand, a Shrimp Knife (good for breaking to complete the military quests), a Dark Wand2, a Sewage Wand2, and a Pure Wand3. I've, um, been hitting the Rainbow Wand pretty hard lately. Hey, dude, can you help me get a fix? PotatoEngineer 18:36, 16 December 2008 (GMT)
Damn, now i have to determine if that stuff is worth more than a million gp --BortJr 06:05, 19 December 2008 (GMT)
MWAHAHAHAHA! Far better you than me.  :) PotatoEngineer 05:15, 20 December 2008 (GMT)

I don't know whats going on with this, but I offer 1 million gold, and a rainbow wand for the humidor. -Stien 20:08, 21 December 2008 (GMT)
As a point of order, Rainbow Wands break after ~10 uses, and in that time you would turn spirit or neutral or ice.... roughly ONCE. You'd be very unlikely to get shrimp/sewage/goth/pure, though 20 wands might get you one of those. But I'll tack on 200k gold to my last bid. See Big Brother. PotatoEngineer 20:02, 22 December 2008 (GMT)

The "Im stupid" game back in town

I just attacked a zu warrior with my Level 3 spell book by mistake. Thought (probably not) that I'd changed back to fire balls after casting AMOK. Got disarmed, bye bye spell book ;( Didbert 01:25, 12 November 2008 (GMT)

You are not alone. :) -- Corellis 21:38, 11 November 2008 (EST)
I lost half of my quantum sheep this way--Solune 18:11, 12 November 2008 (GMT)
It happens. Hot on the heels of that debacle, I screwed the pooch yet again. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger ;) I'll buy you a beer at the next Cities Party and mourn our losses. --Tiltowait 14:04, 13 November 2008 (GMT)
"You are a bit hot, You attack the Living Tar, You cause 10 points of damage, and receive 100 experience, The Living Tar causes 10 points of damage, The Living Tar extends a pseudopod and absorbs your weapon, You can hear it happily digesting it, You lose a Dragon Stone, Now using fists." Oh, crap. Hophornbeam (alt- Dendrast 02:49, 5 December 2008 (GMT))
Prthivi has you all beat. He lost an elite, fully grown dung beetle to a ninja. RIP Leeroy Jenkins. --Ade 03:21, 5 December 2008 (GMT)
Ever go -8k ap in a single click? I have...
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